"By the same standard, all tools used to perform a rare surgical abortion of innocent of that."
This debate has nothing to do with tools. Even if tools are innocent of committing abortion, it still stands that abortion happened and the innocent fetus was killed.
Of course, the burden of proof is on Con to prove that either abortions never happen either that in every case of abortion, fetus was guilty of intentionally committing a crime, excluding future crimes.
I guess Con can argue that fetus committed crimes in past life.
Well, I will use North Korean poetry, written by North Korea, in English language. Its adapted a little to sound good in English, but translation is on point.
Now, you are free to use USA poetry or write as USA. I guess as long as its related to USA in some way, it is fine. I dont have strict rules on this one, anything goes.
"would the attitudes of the dark side really lead to well adjusted disciplined individuals?"
Well, compared to Vader and Anakin, Ren is an obvious downgrade.
Possibly the only non-dominant Sith in the entire series.
Dark side makes people a bit unstable, yes. However, up until episode 7 all bad guys had 1. Plan 2. Motive 3. Consistency 4. Some stability in speech and battles, 5. Sense of respect in battles and speech 6. Cool lines.
Okay, I understand that Emo is getting popular again. However, I would actually prefer if Jedi was emo. Anakin was a bit emo, yes, but he was mostly reasonable in it. I would prefer if they go back to those reasonable emos. At least you knew what they think.
New Star Wars movies have like only 7/10 rating, and even that is exaggeration.
The only reasons why people watched last 3 movies is because 1. The name "Star wars", 2. Too much avertisement.
I appreciate making female Jedi the main character, but the movies are so boring. There is nothing colorful about them. Ren is just crying most of the time, or looks like he is about to cry. There is no any kind of charming bad guys, which is what Star Wars before had. Ren is just crazy. You cant like him or respect him. Well, maybe thats what the disney was after.
Still, if they are going to make any more Star Wars movies, better start over instead of continuing this.
Since you didnt write that in description, I say that voters should discard that as "rambling in comments".
No, I did not meant homicide.
I might not be much of a challenge, but it could still be fun
Heil Stalin
Well, yes, AI is good.
After I am done with one of my debates, I will accept this one if no one accepts.
However, some definitions in description would be nice, otherwise we might end up debating two different things.
Damn all these good looking debates, and I cant accept any.
Curse you debate art maximum allowed active debates limit policy.
Science, sure.
Religion, I guess anyone who can think of nonsense faster than others can refute it.
You first wait for someone to accept, then in round 1 you place your first argument.
Okay, I will try to disagree.
"By the same standard, all tools used to perform a rare surgical abortion of innocent of that."
This debate has nothing to do with tools. Even if tools are innocent of committing abortion, it still stands that abortion happened and the innocent fetus was killed.
Of course, the burden of proof is on Con to prove that either abortions never happen either that in every case of abortion, fetus was guilty of intentionally committing a crime, excluding future crimes.
I guess Con can argue that fetus committed crimes in past life.
You cannot debate definitions. The debating happens once you agree to given definitions.
no.
Not to forget trans species. They are valid too.
I do think trans race, trans age and trans gender are all equally valid.
Well, sure.
"People alone doesn’t prove it 100%, yet it points towards it"
No, it doesnt. What majority agrees upon in no way points to what is objective.
"Subjective opinion are actually logically incoherent"
What?
"Well why wouldn’t it?"
You do realize that murder has earthly consequences?
"I’m saying that the majority agreeing on something is pointing towards there being a higher standard that people follow"
And you would be wrong again. Majority having same opinion does not mean that their opinion is objective, nor does it point to any objective opinion.
Objective opinions are logical impossibility, since opinion cannot be independent of opinion.
" If morality was subjective we’d expect a lot more people to be murderers"
No, we would not. I dont see how morality being subjective makes you want to commit murder.
So you are saying that opinion is objective because majority thinks it.
No, that opinion is still not independent of opinion.
Nothing is objectively wrong, just subjectively.
Just because you want for your opinion to be objective, or because it would be useful if it was, doesnt make it so.
Objective, by definition, means independent of anyone's opinion.
So opinion can never be objective.
You can pretend that its objective if it makes you feel good, but you would just be lying to yourself and you would just be dishonest.
So you can:
1. Pretend that objective morality exists and keep lying to yourself and those around you
2. Accept the truth and deal with it
Objective morality doesnt exist since morality is by definition an opinion.
I admire people who think that opinions can be objective(independent of opinions).
It actually takes a whole build up of really stupid thinking to reach such conclusion.
Yeah, probably should have picked different words in topic.
Well, you can debate any way you like, silly or seriously. But dont expect me to try very hard.
Well, no its not. Murder is illegal by definition. Abortion is legal.
Eh sure, but dont make it so strict with rules. I am terrible at following rules.
I am sorry 🥺
I didnt read description ☹
Hope you can forgive me one day 🤗
I am just debating the side which was offered, and that is "God doesnt exist". So no, I am not allowed to be uncertain in this debate.
Well, I will use North Korean poetry, written by North Korea, in English language. Its adapted a little to sound good in English, but translation is on point.
Now, you are free to use USA poetry or write as USA. I guess as long as its related to USA in some way, it is fine. I dont have strict rules on this one, anything goes.
Hey, you are a poet. You might like this.
Yeah its correct.
Guys I just had some tasty chicken. It was yummy.
Cant think thoughts. Only meat.
Too late. I already accepted.
Well duh, thats why non-religious countries prevailed and most of the countries are non-religious now.
"God is love" topic.
Damn those helicopters
Well okay. If you dont want to take my advice, then dont.
When voting, you have to compare arguments of both sides.
Simply list main arguments used by each side, compare what negates what and then choose winner.
Your vote needs to give impression that you read the debate and took all main arguments and rebuttals into consideration and weighted them.
I see that you vote a lot, so just need to work a bit on making those votes proper votes.
If you keep voting like that, they might remove your voting ability along with your votes.
Yeah 😁
In case it doesnt get removed, we just need 1 more vote to outweight that troll vote.
Dont forget Communist Canada and Communist Japan.
Or that
61738383 = 4
😀
"The topic is: Every single Mathematician in the world agrees that 2+2=61738383"
Sure, as long as we assume that 2 = half of 61738383
Cant steal anything since property doesnt exist. Heil Stalin 🇰🇵💪
Uh sure
Girl, I think you are in love.
"would the attitudes of the dark side really lead to well adjusted disciplined individuals?"
Well, compared to Vader and Anakin, Ren is an obvious downgrade.
Possibly the only non-dominant Sith in the entire series.
Dark side makes people a bit unstable, yes. However, up until episode 7 all bad guys had 1. Plan 2. Motive 3. Consistency 4. Some stability in speech and battles, 5. Sense of respect in battles and speech 6. Cool lines.
Okay, I understand that Emo is getting popular again. However, I would actually prefer if Jedi was emo. Anakin was a bit emo, yes, but he was mostly reasonable in it. I would prefer if they go back to those reasonable emos. At least you knew what they think.
New Star Wars movies have like only 7/10 rating, and even that is exaggeration.
The only reasons why people watched last 3 movies is because 1. The name "Star wars", 2. Too much avertisement.
I appreciate making female Jedi the main character, but the movies are so boring. There is nothing colorful about them. Ren is just crying most of the time, or looks like he is about to cry. There is no any kind of charming bad guys, which is what Star Wars before had. Ren is just crazy. You cant like him or respect him. Well, maybe thats what the disney was after.
Still, if they are going to make any more Star Wars movies, better start over instead of continuing this.
I argue from lots of persectives, economical, political, moral... 😁