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@juniorrationalmadman
So you're busy saying I can't handle big books and you can't handle three sources. Lol.
There are billions of sources on the internet, and the idea that yours take priority is silly, given that you selected them. Plus, my issue with your sources isnt their quality, as they have none, but that they are not any better from billions of other sources on the internet, and are inferior to many too.
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Here is what I think so far.
Whiteflame is confirmed town by 2 players, so there is no way in hell that anyone scum reads him.
WyIted, I will admit, his behavior was somewhat scummy, so I investigated him, and it turns out he is innocent, and there is no way I am lynching WyIted unless some good information appears.
I am obvious town, since if I was scum, I could have easily lied and said I got guilty on someone, who is actually innocent, and win the game for scum. So if anyone thinks I am scum at this point, then I dont know what to tell you, as scum wouldnt do what I did.
As for austin, barney, and vader, yes I can see Barney and Vader as a scum team, but if they are, then their strategy has been poor. Usually, scum isnt supposed to unite but it is supposed to divide, for example one scum attacks a player while other scum defends him. The fact that they were united most of the game tells me they are either not both scum either they had poor strategy.
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Given that the other players are most likely town, two of these 3 are most likely scum:
Barney
Austin
Vader
This is the time for full claims, as town cannot afford a mislynch, so we need as much information as possible this dp.
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I have 1x cop ability, and I investigated WyIted and he is innocent.
Someone has a role which gave me cop abilities last night.
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@zedvictor4
Right as always.
One must only conquer that much what he can keep, control or defend or make use of.
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@juniorrationalmadman
You have failed to address the articles. Did you read them?
I dont know why would I have to read articles you post, but what you quoted from them was irrelevant to your argument, so I just discarded them. Notice that I really dont care for your poor failed logic, and unless you come up with some valid argument and not some quote you misunderstood, then I guess we can conclude that you failed whatever you were trying to do here, and while direct insults may be banned, still I really dont see why, because I can just say that your argument is retarded and we all know how is called the one who makes retarded arguments.
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@WyIted
Please address the part where you claimed Hamas was too incompetent to have 5 people set up a road block
I already did, but if you didnt understand, dont worry, as my goal is not to make you understand, but really the more dumb statements you make, the better my position is, so keep it up!
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@WyIted
I am not sure what you are talking about.
Thats true.
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I wanted to make a short list of main points of Imperialism, so here it is:
1. Conquer all enemies
2. Have a lust for battle
3. Attack the enemy to counter his attack
4. Create greatest attack possible using all resources and all strategies
5. Use full power in battle to destroy enemy quickly
6. Use surprise unexpected overwhelming attack on undefended position or least defended position
7. Destroy enemy's mind, destroy enemy's attack, or destroy enemy himself
8. Destroy enemy completely
9. Learn everything about everything
10. Know when to attack and where to attack, and when not to attack and where not to attack
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How is age of consent determined in anarchy?
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@juniorrationalmadman
Praising north Korea, imperialist Japan, pedophilia, homophobia and so much more of the stuff you come up with on this site
You will never understand the imperialist way of life, as you are stuck in desire for a safe space, which is what Communist ideology brainwashed you with, since there is no safe space and a safe world is a horrible world because not only is it unachiavable, but even if it was achieved, it would be a world of cowards who must think 20 times what they say just to avoid saying a mean thing and offending someone and violating safe space. Even you dont believe in the safe space which you claim to support, as you are literally going all over the site calling people stupid, but when someone like me comes, then you run away to mods.
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@WyIted
I believe you know it doesn't take much effort to shut down large roads around major population centers
If USA cannot prevent people entering it during peace, then I dont see why you think a much weaker Hamas can during war. But you just assume that it can and does, which is nonsense.
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@juniorrationalmadman
Praising north Korea, imperialist Japan, pedophilia, homophobia and so much more of the stuff you come up with on this site is the result of being stuck behind a screen with no experience of what you glorify.Perhaps take a step back and look in the mirror before projecting your insecurities onto me.
I dont know why are you pretending to have any life experience when almost every idea you support is basically retarded such as flat Earth, or just taken from google search, and you even think 48 laws of power is a good book. Pretending to have some "experience" in life when you are incapable of dealing with simple conversation without running away to mods doesnt exactly tell me that you have some great experience.
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@juniorrationalmadman
There are literally thousands of cases of civilians moving away from warzone in Palestine to where Israel told them to move, only to be bombed there as well. I dont know if you have debated in debate section for too long so you have lost sense of what evidence is as in there voters accept those random links as evidence, but posting random completely irrelevant links isnt any evidence for your case and has nothing to do with your original claim, and the fact that you think it does just speaks volumes about your "research" which is honestly on the level of "I believe every irrelevant thing media tells me which supports my opinion" type of biased thinking. I cant say I expected better from you or anyone else here, given that I have always held opinion that there are no good debaters on this site except rare few.
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@WyIted
They have prevented civilians from leaving areas and have intermixed with civilians so they can get sympathy for civilian deaths.
I dont think you understood my argument, as you are just repeating what you said before and what was negated, so if you come up with something new, let me know.
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@juniorrationalmadman
Hamas always have and always will use and abuse civilians even their own relatives as human shields. To them it is all about jihadist warfare for the afterlife. They're fighting a holy war in their minds, there are literally zero means that aren't justified by the ends for them. If you don't know the history and are stuck in your PC game warfare, let me know. I can help you study the history of repeated human shield use by Hamas.
I dont believe you, since if you knew anything about it, then you would know that Israel has a long history of abusing civilians. But kids these days read "Art of War" and they think they know modern war, but they dont know anything about anything. I guess I could recommend you some books to read, but I am not sure if it would be beneficial as certain knowledge is necessary to understand high level books.
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@WyIted
You can certainly choose not to house soldiers in hospitals and you can certainly choose not to block exit routes of civilians.
Yes, its obvious Hamas has large enough military to both fight Israel and secure 40 miles border so no civilian can escape from Palestine. Really, in your world, Hamas is somehow better at securing its border during war than USA is securing its during peace. And of course every hospital is filled with soldiers. Its not like Israel would intentionally bomb civilians like it bombed food aid trucks to prevent food aid from coming to Palestine.
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@RationalMadman
Hamas fighters know exactly what they're doing using human shields.
I guess your knowledge of war is still on the level of "Art of War" book, but really it only takes two brain cells to figure out that Hamas cannot teleport millions of civilians out of warzone and fight war at the same time, and they dont even have a place to teleport all those civilians to since no country wants to accept that many civilians, but whats even dumber in your logic is that you somehow think that you can fight war and not be around civilians, as your concept of "human shield" is literally limited to "soldiers being near civilians", which happens in every war everywhere, so every military is using human shields which makes your logic a retarded product of thinking that war is like PC game.
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@RationalMadman
No, I have no interest in convincing you that Earth is round. In fact, it is in my interest to encourage you to keep going around saying that Earth is flat, as that is very funny and people like having something to laugh at so I dont see why would I take that away from them.
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@RationalMadman
I'll let you ignore the insane lack of probability of it all and stay in the round Earth fantasy
No, I am pretty sure that Earth is a triangle, and not round.
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@Shila
Hi Shila. I see that you are back, which is good as I find you very interesting.
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@WyIted
Its an honor to serve the site!
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Also, in both scenarios I presented, if GP makes it to DP5, even if he is not scum, he can make scum win by joining them as in dp5 it will be 2 town vs 1 scum plus greyparrot, and GP can make town lose by quickhammering with scum.
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Unvote
VTL Greyparrot
I am certain I am not the only one who sensed that something is wrong here, since if GP wins if game ends on dp5 it makes no sense that he is helping us find scum, since if we successfully find scum now and next dp, which is dp3, GP loses. So to put it simply, even if we were to believe that that is his win condition, it still follows that he has no interest in helping us find scum. He cannot win if town wins in dp3, and he doesnt win if town doesnt mislynch at all.
Scenario 1:
Dp3 is 3 vs 2,
Dp4 is 2 vs 1
Dp5 town wins or scum wins.
Scenario 2
Dp3 4 vs 1
Dp4 2 vs 1
Dp5 town wins or scum wins.
So its obviously in his interest to make town mislynch at least once from now on. I think we played the guessing game long enough and just consider that scum's gambit could easily be GP's claim since it is unconfirmable role which just happens to have "I am a third party" excuse in advance in case he turns guilty by cop and claimed early so he doesnt even get investigated. So its a perfect gambit to bypass even imvestigation and if town falls for it, it works much better than "I am irrelevant unconfirmable town role" gambit usually used by scum, and the fact that GP's gambit is unusual is what makes it more effective. Also, take note that we dont lose anything by lynching GP, as he is not town, so we dont reduce number of town players, and we have to lynch him because if we dont, then he will do everything he can to make us mislynch, as it is his claimed win condition.
Additionally, its disturbing that some players were so quick to focus on Earth for no reason, but it just makes me doubt them more since it seemed like desperate deflection and not an actual scum hunt.
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I need to sleep very soon. As I see it, I will be putting my vote on Vader or GP as I think either is a good lynch, its just that I would prefer GP lynch as the only way to make sure he is not scum doing gambit fake claim is to lynch him.
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I think there is not much reason to change lynch to Earth, and honestly this seems more like searching for excuses than using actual reasoning. GP obviously doesnt want to be lynched and now for some reason doesnt want for Vader to be lynched either, so he comes up with attempts to direct attention elsewhere, but I dont know what others are doing as this gameplay doesnt make much sense to me.
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We need politicians who invest more in innovators and in people of technology.
As right now, in most cases, being an inventor or innovator just means rich people make money from your work and give you a small share of that money as a thank you.
Obviously, societies which punish advancements will always be left behind and historically, any society which opposed progress was left behind while societies which accepted progress prospered and conquered those societies which opposed progress, through advanced technology which is only possible with the encouragement of the knowledge and innovation.
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@RationalMadman
Not all forms of autism are weakness, some are even very beneficial. But I am concerned about non-beneficial forms specifically.
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@whiteflame
I am not sure about lynching Vader, since while his gameplay may seem scummy, he actually has a tradition of going after me in any game we play, as I am always in his scum list, only this time he focused me too much for no reason, making almost every comment about me. But I dont know much about theme, I just know that GP is certain non-town while Vader might even somehow be town despite everything what happened so far, and I am not sure if we can afford a mislynch. Still, if I cant lynch GP this dp, then I will agree to lynch Vader, and if you are right about Vader, then we dont need to worry as he isnt getting away if we lynch GP first, but going after Vader now might be a terrible misplay which makes town maybe even lose if Vader turns town and GP joins scum, which he might do because we have no way to confirm what GP is saying and his move could have been a gambit where he takes the risk to possibly succeed in tricking us.
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I confirm that I quit, and you are a smart man RM. ;)
Others won't see it at first but you and I were symbiotic during this.
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Round 2 is going to be a poetry/rap contest
Is it too late for me to quit this game, as it has become stupid beyond belief?
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@Bones
Countries with mandatory procreation, or at least the ones which have legal child marriages, or which have both, have significantly higher birth rates than any countries that try to manage society differently. So while child marriages arent same as mandatory procreation culture, both policies were proven to increase birth rates where trying to ban reproduction until age 18 has for the most part lowered birth rates and countries which ban child marriages ironically depend on importing migrants from societies which have child marriages. So mandatory procreation is not bad for society, and banning child marriages is an action which lowers birth rates obviously, so one could say that practicing neither policy just ensures that your society is outnumbered by or dependent on that society which has one or both of those policies. And if your view is that one has no right to act to destroy future generations, then I dont see how acting to ban child marriages fits in your view, as child marriages occur naturally unless prevented, so one could say that banning child marriages is equal to banning people from giving birth, which if you take as justified due to age, doesnt make sense as you are implying that it is justified to use force against persons before they reach certain age, or make decisions instead of them, which contradicts with the whole idea of child marriages being forced on children, as if your definition of force is that "everything which child doesnt understand is being forced on that child", then that is a no win scenario as then everything is always forced on children and there is no way for you to act in any way which is not forced on a child.
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@Bones
So if under your system, people are allowed to destroy future generations by not creating them, then I feel your system is inferior to systems which are focused on empowering society and making it strong as a whole, also your negative rights dont account for the fact that action of banning child marriages is not any type of "not doing anything" action, but an action in which you act to lower birth rates thus it does not fall under negative rights but rather it is equivalent to acting to destroy offspring.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I dont know what you are talking about, but this is about Hitler's reasons for invading Russia and not some of your issues.
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@Swagnarok
You obviously didnt listen to speech, as Hitler said that Russia was about to invade Germany.
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Here is a different link in case this one doesnt work
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I found Hitler's speech on invasion of Russia which was available on YouTube before, but now I can only find it on internet archive.
I think that historically, this speech is important, as it shows Hitler's thinking and it shows how Germans felt about Russia, and especially about Russia invading other countries.
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Let me just repeat that we cant afford not to lynch GP this dp.
So we are at 5 - 2 - 1 most likely.
And if we lynch someone else, and it happens to be a mislynch, then we are at 3 - 2 - 1.
At that point, if GP joins scum, then we lose in dp3.
Let us be reminded that we dont know if he is really a prophet, and we dont know if he actually wins if game ends on dp5, because it is possible he just wants us to think that and told something entirely different to pie.
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@FishChaser
Actually, anger is not beneficial in attacking, as proper attack demands persistance, planned attack and execution of planned attack, so we can see that in warrior society anger is a disadvantage, as well as being some environment extremist since its more important to defeat enemies than keep environment good, plus your diet probably wouldnt work either as sometimes you have to eat meat to survive.
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@FishChaser
You seem angry, so I guess you dont have what it takes to be a warrior, and once warrior society rises again, which it will, you are gonna have to be strong, and I am not saying that smart is bad, but your weak society cannot maintain itself as the number of incapable people is greatly increasing, and sooner or later it will collapse under its own weight once weaknesses become overwhelming, and at that point societies like China and Russia, which are closer to warrior societies, will take over.
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@FishChaser
Why is fighting good? Why is being strong more important than peace and safety?
It just is, unless you prefer being weak, then sure do that, but such society falls apart eventually as everyone becomes weaker and weaker until there is no one left to maintain society.
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If I knew that hot potato has those powers, then I would think twice before giving it to WyIted!
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@ILikePie5
If you’re going to do that then just don’t play. It’s unfair to mafia and town
Okay, I wont play, as I think that after 6 or 7 games of being town, this time I will be scum for sure and I dont want that as I would be very bad with coming up with proper fake claim as I am usually clueless about theme, and its better that I take a break from mafia, since I played too much too sudden.
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@FishChaser
Warrior society is the one which is better, despite constant battles, as it forces beta males to man up and become strong to conquer the enemy. On the other hand, feminist society says that everyone should become a vagina, so yeah its a quick way to ruin society, and really any society where women even have right to choose let alone vote is doomed. Plus, warrior society wins by natural selection, since weak are made strong, but in feminist society strong are made weak and disorders multiply until everyone is a mentally ill autistic retard and if thats the society you prefer, then you already have it, even tho it will perish as warrior society will rise again and man will once again gain courage and no longer be afraid of battles or commanding, as feminist society naturally collapses on its own since it multiplies disorders to the point where entire society is too stupid to make basic life decisions and any society which stayed warrior can beat it easily.
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@FishChaser
Society would be better off if it was ruled by very kind and empathetic yet intelligent women
Thats disgusting.
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@FishChaser
I think beta males exist because this society produces them, as this society literally rewards beta males, and rewards victims with attention and care. Thus, even if I died within 30 seconds of life in warrior society, then it would still be a more worthy life than life in this society which is going to perish anyway, as any society which rewards the weak will perish.
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