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@Greyparrot
Another reason why capitalism can never work is because
People dont want to be free. They want to be happy.
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@Greyparrot
You forgot that guns kill people in USA.
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@Greyparrot
Communism brings cultural hegemony too. USA needs to go full Communism. Half-Communism isnt good enough. We see that countries with full Communism are best.
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@Greyparrot
USA needs to go full Communism and remove guns. Then USA will have less crime.
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@Greyparrot
More guns, am I right?
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@cristo71
Americans often forget that non-Americans exist too. Americans are so rude ☹
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@cristo71
I dont have favorite US politicians, except maybe Biden.
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And Kim il-Sung and Kim Jong il.
They are all currently serving, since popular Korea is a Necrocracy Communist Monarchy.
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@Greyparrot
Actually, the Moynahan report suggests giving money to poor mothers increases crime and lowers test scores
Yeah, how about we look at examples of Fully and Totally Communist countries and see if crime is high there.
Communist Canada - very low crime
Communist Sweden - very low crime
Communist Finland - very low crime
Communist Japan - very low crime
Now lets look at examples of capitalist countries. Oh wait, there are no any. Because capitalism doesnt work.
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@Greyparrot
Yes.
Cost: rich boy gets a little less rich (not a cost for poor).
Benefit: poor people have better education and healthcare, reducing crime, improving average intelligence, improving inventions and other important things.
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@Greyparrot
Still, you got banana for free and you didnt have to pay for it because government gave you the banana for free. Someone else paid for your banana. Same way, rich boys need to pay for education, healthcare and housing of the poor people.
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Hey thats mean
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Rodriguez idolized Trump as “the father he wished he had.”
Yikes.
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@sadolite
Under communism, what doesn't the govt provide?
Smartphones. You have to pay for your smartphone by yourself. No money? No smartphone!
Also, rich people dont get free food. If you have billions, I assume you can buy your own food.
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@sadolite
If govt provides everything
Eh not everything. But every child has right to education even if the rich man must pay for it.
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@Athias
There, there. Capitalism will win too one day... maybe...
How many capitalist countries in the world?
0?
Well, on the bright side, their number can only increase from this point, so you have the advantage there.
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@Athias
Sorry, but I only support winners. Capitalism is a loser, you admitted it yourself. Not sure what more needs to be said.
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For example, Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Brian Hagedorn once compared homosexuality to bestiality
Wait, whats wrong with bestiality?
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@Athias
Win what? A trivially metaphorical contest you just made up to bolster the appeal of Communism, a description for which you have butchered with sophistic statements?
Calm down. You already conceded that USA, strongest country in history of Earth, is Communist.
But it's not only rich men's money which is being stolen.
Eh, tomato, tomahto.
No, it went from "it's not a free banana" to "it's not a free banana, and my suggestion that it's not free is RELEVANT because of my moral stance against the nature of its procurement."
Not sure what kind of moral stance is that, but from my moral stance, being rich is theft and Communism helps children with food and education, so Communism wins there too.
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@Athias
Your definition is used for sophistry. I suppose there is some "meaning" to that
Sorry, I dont know what that means.
Your description of Communism isn't accurate
Yet the meaning remains unrefuted. So until you refute the meaning, as opposed to just complaining about labels, maybe then capitalism will win. Until then, Communism wins.
I didn't have to concede that; I never denied it.
Well, thanks. Now we know that USA is Communist and that Communism won.
It is relevant to me if I maintain that coercing another's labor or stealing one's property or fruits of one's labor--literally--is fundamentally immoral
Oh so you went from "its not a free banana for me" to "its an immoral banana for me".
Yes, you can maintain that its immoral to steal the rich man's money and give it for children's education or for food for starving children.
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@Athias
So you have abandoned that Communism facilitates individual sovereignty? Honesty is good.
Yes.
Your definition was inaccurate.
The definition is used for meaning. If you cant refute the meaning, changing definition still doesnt change the meaning and still doesnt refute the argument.
I pick "more coercive" since it's the only one on your itemized list that has been substantiated
You already conceded that USA, China, Russia... are all Communist countries.
And how was the procurement of this banana financed?
Irrelevant to you, since you got banana for free, without paying for it. Lucky you 😁
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@Greyparrot
Hey, maybe you dont like fascism, but fascism still loves you.
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@Athias
While the individual and his/her liberty loses.
Yes.
Never stated that it was your definition. I adjusted your response to reflect a more accurate description.
I am glad you concede that the definition you used was irrelevant to anything I said, since it is not the definition I use and its meaning has nothing to do with what I am saying.
Don't you mean "more coercive"?
More coercive, better military, more sustainable, historically proven to work... take your pick.
There's no such thing as "free" health care.
Sure there is. If I give you a banana, you got a banana for free, since you didnt pay for it. Thats Communism.
At the expense of the individual and his/her liberty.
Yes.
Because
Communism =/= freedom
Communism = 💪💪💪💪
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@Greyparrot
I would counter and say we live in a quasi-fascist state, and not a quasi-communist state
Tomato, Tom-AH-to.
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@Athias
Unfortunately, this isn't true.
So Communism wins.
The United States has never employed a "free market economy." The United States has been a quasi-communist state for over a century
So Communism wins.
Do you mean subsidized health-care insurance? Hopefully, many.
Hopefully? You are such a capitalist.
The definition of Communism is the state's controlling and coercing the means of production and the dissemination of goods and services. Your specious description is undermined by historical practice
Errr wrong. Thats not my definition.
Also, Capitalism is undermined by historical practice since all strong countries are Communist, such as Canada(free healthcare).
Can't argue against that.
So Communism wins again.
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@Greyparrot
It's so funny that Marxists feverishly claim that the worker should keep what he produces, yet is all on board for 40% taxation
I am not a marxist. I am a Communist.
Also, the definition of Communism is government providing food, water, education, housing and healthcare to all citizens so that all citizens and all children have same chance and arent left out by the system.
So yes, democracy is the path to Communism. Get used to it.
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But yes, Trump believes in "clean coal".
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Oh no, he cant win again. That would be a disaster. Well, I guess Communism in USA is doomed. Its back to more of free market economy. How many people will lose healthcare because of Trump?
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In some countries, age of consent is 13 or 14.
Its just that age difference is treated as important factor in most places.
Two 14 year olds having sex is seen as different from 30 year old having sex with 14 year old.
Thats not going to change any time soon. Actually, age of consent is mostly increasing, not decreasing.
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@Athias
Do either of you have an actual argument?
No, we zombies.
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@Lemming
I didnt play Fable 2, not available for PC.
I played Fable 1 and Fable 3.
Fable 1 I played completely and multiple times to the end. I liked it a lot. Made me feel like I am some hero. So Fable 1 I would label as best. I liked the magic powers, some were overpowered.
Fable 3 was not same for me. I didnt like the gameplay at all. Magic powers didnt seem like much. Maybe I should go back to it, give it another chance. Still, I dont like politics in that game. I dont like the entire setup that is there. The game feels like it complicates things which in other games are rather simple.
I dont like complicated games, to be honest.
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@Lemming
I wish Fable 2 was released for PC.
I like Fable 1 a lot too. Fable 1 gave me a sense of role in the game.
Fable 3 was horrible in my view. Too much politics, too much mini games, too little of actual game.
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Now, I know many will say that playstation > PC, and for the most part, I agree.
As a kid, I was given a choice to either get PC or PS.
I couldnt have both, so I picked PC.
At that time, I didnt know that playstation would have been better choice, since I was a kid.
Playstation obviously has much better games and controls.
However, over time, I found some exceptions where PC actually wins. There are some games that are so good on PC, that make PC very pleasant to play on.
So here is my list.
1. Vampire the masquerade bloodlines
Probably the most perfect PC game ever made. The reason its perfect is because its addicting. You complete the game once, you get desire to play again as a different vampire. I probably completed the game at least 30 times. Its one of those games that charms you into playing it over and over again. Even if you have enough and stop playing for a year or two, you come back to it simply because of the addicting combat, feeling and the perfect story. The story and combat is good because the more you progress in game, the better it becomes. Dodging bullets and freezing time, or transforming into wolf, or becoming almost unkillable using shield powers... you can fight with sword, gun, flamethrower. You can even complete the game using fists alone, although I dont recommend that for beginners.
Of course it needs to be said that a new game is about to come out soon. After 20 years of waiting for it, it is happening. Lets hope it will be as perfect as the first game.
2. Dishonored
On PC, this game is awesome. The mouse control for sword fighting is perfect. I dont know if PS version is better, but on PC the game is too good to be true. Of course, I always took issue with powers in the game being unbalanced and inconsistent. Certain powers dont work on all enemies, on some bosses certain powers like stop time have no effect at all. Fortunatelly, for most part, boss fights in this game are surprisingly rare. The game can be played as stealth, but you can also play non-stealth and fight all the way.
3. Fable The Lost Chapters
I know many people dont find this game to be much good, but I do. Its a very old game, but it has so many elements to it that I consider it one of best. The story is one of best presented I ever saw in video game. The combat is good, kinda addicting. The game is easy, which is important. Not all of us like playing difficult games. The story has many plots, it feels like watching a movie while playing a game. The game feels lively.
4. Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy
Lightsaber combat with mouse makes this game best of its time. You actually felt like a Jedi with so many lightsaber moves available to you. The game has balance issues in online play, but single player is perfect.
5. Star Wars Battlefront 2 (new and old)
Maybe it doesnt have some advanced Jedi combat, but being able to play as any character, droid or stormtrooper in big battles is simply fun.
6. Star Wars Kotor
Let me just say that I am not a big fan of kotor. I consider the game playable, but also kinda boring at certain point. The main problem I have with it is horrible force powers setting that makes certain force powers utterly useless against bosses. Of course, one can focus on lightsaber combat instead of force combat, which is kinda more interesting to be honest. Still, a fun game to play once or twice.
7. Age of mythology
I am not a fan of strategy and building games. I consider them poison for mind, since they usually involve long battles that seem to have no end and you are stuck doing same thing over and over every long battle.
With age of mythology, I find some exception. The battles are long, yes, but it feels kinda better because the game brings some story to it. It offers variety of gameplay and displays ancient Gods and societies. It makes you feel there is more to it than just building and long battles. Different Gods, different powers, different ways and options.
8. Universe at war: Earth Assault
Whats fun about this game is single player. The game follows simple gameplay, with somewhat interesting story. The battles are rather colorful.
9. Batman Arkham series
There is just some joy about being dressed like a bat and beating people up.
10. The Amazing Spiderman
I cant say that the game is perfect, but it surely is fun to be spiderman.
11. Max Payne 2
Shooting game with perfect story. Plus, lets you stop time. That is fun for some reason.
12. Arma 2
There is some joy about being able to design the battlefield and units, and then fight in that battlefield as one of the soldiers in first person. The game is realistic war simulation.
13. Skyrim
Well, just couldnt not to mention the obvious one. Skyrim may be a bit boring when you have to travel long distances, but the combat is amazing. Magic, swords, arrows... take your pick. Of course, certain classes are much better than others, and story probably could have been less about lots of running from quest to quest. Still, Skyrim remains one of those games which players spend hundreds of hours on.
14. Bloodrayne
Repetitive combat and simple nature, yet this game is addicting. It was fun enough for me to include it on this list. The game simply displays pure insanity of repetitive battles, enemies that seem to have no brain at all, almost like they are drugged.
Now, I understand that playstation has better games and is more fun to play, but PC isnt dead in terms of gaming and has a lot to offer with more on the way. Now, PC also has emulators that enable it to play games from other consoles.
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@Greyparrot
We were talking about how Trump is bad. Did you know he increased the debt by 10 trillion?
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@Greyparrot
You think Trump is a good choice. Trump is the problem. He is not good.
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Well, Trump did say that election was stolen and fueled the mob to attack and overturn election results. What more does one need to do to be disqualified?
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@Greyparrot
You say scientists are wrong. You say climate change isnt a big deal. You think masks dont protect from covid. You think vaccines dont work. You think being gay is wrong. You think guns actually prevent people from killing each other. You dont even trust statistics or studies. You instead trust every dumb conspiracy theory out there. Let me guess, Ukraine is at fault for being invaded? Putin man good? This is what you get when people go too much on the right.
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@Greyparrot
Give us the link to Jimmy Dore. We all know he is your main source of information. No Jimmy? Maybe the deep state is after him again. Or the aliens. Or the reptiles...
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@Greyparrot
How silly. You also believe Hitler did nothing wrong?
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@Greyparrot
@Athias
Let me guess, you guys think vaccines dont work either.
"You dont have to wear masks. I dont." - Trump
Hey, I was vaccinated. I am one of zombies now.
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During Trump's first three years in office, the number of Americans without health insurance increased by 4.6 million (16%). [7][8] while his tax cuts were projected to worsen income inequality.[9]
Trump took office at the height of the longest economic expansion in American history.[10] The 128-month (10.7-year) economic expansion that began in June 2009 abruptly ended at a peak in February 2020, with the U.S. entering a recession due to the COVID-19 pandemic.[11] The U.S. unemployment rate, which had hit a 50-year low (3.5%) in February 2020, hit a 90-year high (14.7%) just two months later, matching Great Depression levels. In response, Trump signed the $2 trillion Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES) on March 27, 2020 which helped maintain family incomes and savings during the crisis, but contributed to a $3.1 trillion budget deficit (14.9% GDP) for fiscal year 2020, the largest since 1945 relative to the size of the economy.[12][13] Trump left office with 3 million fewer jobs in the U.S. than when he took office, making Trump the only modern U.S. president to leave office with a smaller workforce.[10] Throughout his presidency, Trump mischaracterized the economy as the best in American history.[14]
Despite saying during the 2016 campaign he would eliminate the national debt in eight years,[15] Trump as president approved large increases in government spending, as well as the 2017 tax cut. As a result, the federal budget deficit increased by almost 50%, to nearly $1 trillion in 2019.[16] Under Trump, the U.S. national debt increased by 39%, reaching $27.75 trillion by the end of his term; the U.S. debt-to-GDP ratio also hit a post-World War II high.[17
Trump took office at the height of the longest economic expansion in American history.[10] The 128-month (10.7-year) economic expansion that began in June 2009 abruptly ended at a peak in February 2020, with the U.S. entering a recession due to the COVID-19 pandemic.[11] The U.S. unemployment rate, which had hit a 50-year low (3.5%) in February 2020, hit a 90-year high (14.7%) just two months later, matching Great Depression levels. In response, Trump signed the $2 trillion Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES) on March 27, 2020 which helped maintain family incomes and savings during the crisis, but contributed to a $3.1 trillion budget deficit (14.9% GDP) for fiscal year 2020, the largest since 1945 relative to the size of the economy.[12][13] Trump left office with 3 million fewer jobs in the U.S. than when he took office, making Trump the only modern U.S. president to leave office with a smaller workforce.[10] Throughout his presidency, Trump mischaracterized the economy as the best in American history.[14]
Despite saying during the 2016 campaign he would eliminate the national debt in eight years,[15] Trump as president approved large increases in government spending, as well as the 2017 tax cut. As a result, the federal budget deficit increased by almost 50%, to nearly $1 trillion in 2019.[16] Under Trump, the U.S. national debt increased by 39%, reaching $27.75 trillion by the end of his term; the U.S. debt-to-GDP ratio also hit a post-World War II high.[17
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@iwantroosevelt
Which media sources are biased toward Libertarian causes? None? Is that because Libertarians are insignificant, feckless and clueless?
There is a reason libertarianism never worked anywhere. No one wants a politician who gives them nothing and helps the rich.
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@sadolite
I am not sure what are you talking about, since capitalism doesnt exist. We live in government regulated economy.
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@sadolite
Someone has to lose
Well, the capitalism loses. It already lost, to be precise.
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Trump lost by 70 points difference in 2020 and he lost the popular vote too. He now spreads fake news online attacking Biden's health. Same thing he did with Hillary.
Hitler also used to attack his opponent's health during elections before he made himself dictator.
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