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@FLRW
He will again lose the popular vote. People dont want him.
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@Reece101
You could, but it wouldnt make any sense since I asked about capitalism and neither USA nor China are capitalist countries nor have capitalist economy. High taxes are not capitalism. Free healthcare is not capitalism. Minimum wage law is not capitalism. Social security is not capitalism. Social welfare is not capitalism. Government mass interference and regulation of buisness is not capitalism.
Could you show us some example of actual capitalist country or am I asking too much?
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@Reece101
Not really. USA and China have highest GDP and they both have lots of socialist policies. They also have strongest militaries. Is there some country without socialist policies that you can show us that is doing well? Or is country without socialist policies impossible? Just where is that capitalism that was supposed to work well, but for some reason no strong country is capitalist? Awkward.
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@Reece101
Can you show us the example of capitalism winning anywhere?
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@Tradesecret
All mighty God of destruction, descend on this game
This game of shadows, and strike down my foe
With your infinite power, I shall chant thy name
And you shall rise from your prison of paper
Rise Obelisk the Tormentor
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@Redpilled
They didn’t just randomly get there
My bad. I thought they just randomly got there.
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@Athias
Do you have a contention? If so, please explicitly state it.
I thought I already did.
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@Tradesecret
In the Hindu religion - it's all about rainbows. And snakes
Hindu people were historically more peaceful than Christians.
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@Redpilled
I like how you assume where I live 😀
Also, first world countries have many socialist policies. Check 1.5 trillion for healthcare in USA.
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@FLRW
Sounds like Trump was calling for violence.
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@Lemming
It's 'still my bear, else how could 'I share it?
Its not your bear because you have duty to share. The only thing that can be yours is that which you have no duty to share. Parents have duty to feed their children. You as baby were fed, so it would be illogical to think that you as baby were more important than some other baby who is hungry now. Since you were not more important, it is your duty to share with those equally important as you.
it is my 'choice to share my bear
Its your duty. If you cannot watch your child being hungry, how can you watch some other child being hungry?
My child 'Would be more important to me than other children
Thats crazy. Logically talking, from advanced human perspective, your child has:
1. Same needs as other children
2. Same pain as other children.
3. Same desire for happiness as other children.
So your child is not in any way more important, from moral point of view.
If you have enough food to provide for other child, you would let that child starve just because you dont consider that child as important.
But such logic can justify any other horrible crime too, so it is obviously inconsistent logic that should not be used by anyone.
I guess this is what is meant by saying "Society must either evolve to Communism, or sink to barbarism.
If your child is important to you, and lets say you die. You would wish for others to help your child, give him best education, best chance, no? You would wish it was their duty, no?
Or what if you were the hungry child? You would wish for others to help you, no?
So yes, even from selfish point of view, society is best modeled if everyone is treated like the family member.
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@Lemming
I might require my son to do chores, share in the work of living, before I 'choose to share
But you would share. And your son is not more valuable than other poor people, by any moral standard. So same standard that you use to share with your son, you must use to share with other poor people. Also, if your son was baby, he would get bear for free. So it is not your bear. You have duty to share it. Now apply same to education. You would want for your child to go to the best school. By that standard, all children must have best education and you must pay for it, since your child is not more important than other children.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
That is not a definition of property it's an assertion of ownership
Oh, and since property is something you own, I am afraid that it indeed is the definition ☹
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@Greyparrot
WW3 isnt so bad. I already bought fishing equipment so I can eat radioactive fish in post-WW3. So yes, I will be fine, assuming the nukes miss me.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
slight modification to one of your definitions
Well, I use definitions from dictionary, so no. Changing definition does not resolve contradiction as contradiction still exists with first definition.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Contradiction cannot be resolved due to different and opposite ideas of property.
For example, food belongs to the hungry, and taking food for yourself would steal it from the hungry.
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@zedvictor4
I am not suggesting that we go back to "power makes right", but I am suggesting that we evolve beyond property.
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@tws
Wow. This has to be one of the most ignroant threads I w ever seen here.
I am glad you are enjoying it.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
The concept of theft is built on the concept of property.
There are multiple concepts of property that contradict each other. Thats why property is always theft.
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@Lemming
If your son was hungry, you would share the bear with him. So still not your bear.
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For me, thinking is either imagination either solving problems, or both of those at the same time.
Solving problems can be done using values that exist in reality or in imagination.
For example, to figure out how to fish, one takes facts from nature and then tries to solve problems and improve by setting goal and reaching them. That would be solving problems in reality.
Meanwhile, Harry Potter solves problems in our imagination. Those problems dont really exist outside our imagination.
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Every time you own something, it means that someone else doesnt.
Every time you own something, you steal it from someone else.
Property is all about who came first.
Your ancestors came first on the land. It must be their land then, no?
Wrong!
Land cannot be private property since every human needs land to live. Giving it all to few humans would deny all others of it.
This is why we need Communism.
Private property has already destroyed all noble ideas from the past. It has degraded human to a mere animal who works only to satisfy most basic urges.
If you look at countries like North Korea, where people dont have lots of private property, we see all the old values of being loyal, being humble, living a simple life come into play.
People are not greedy by nature. They are only greedy if you convince them that they can own property.
First, we all die, so obviously we cannot eternally own property.
Second, owning property creates class society of those who have and those who have not. Those who are cherished from the start and those who are harmed from the start.
Reality is, the less you own, the better.
The more you own, the more you wish to own that which you dont.
If you saw a starving man, would you give him some food? Yes, of course.
However, is it your duty to give him food? It is.
So food is not your property. Food belongs to the hungry.
How about a house. Do you own your house? No, you dont.
If your son was out in the street homeless, would you invite him in your house? Of course you would.
Now, how about some homeless man who is not your son?
Now you say no?
But he is someone's son. So he should have home.
So no, your house doesnt belong to you alone.
Your money, does your money belong to you? Of course it doesnt.
If your child was dying, and you had to pay 5000 dollars to save him, it would be your duty to do so.
And your child is not more valuable than some child who isnt yours.
So in reality, you own nothing except your body. Property cannot be owned. That would be theft.
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@FLRW
The maximum age for anyone in Congress or to be the President should be 68.
Trump is 80.
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@Greyparrot
Dont forget that Trump still today claims that elections were rigged. Obviously, when he loses 2024 by a landslide, he will again claim that election was stolen. He cannot accept obvious defeat.
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@Athias
If one can still smell and breathe through face masks, then those masks are essentially useless.
Wait, what? You gotta be joking, and I aint falling for the joke.
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@n8nrgim
Its mainly because everything is so expensive. Health services in US cost much more than in other countries. US military pays much more for same parts.
Thats the problem of tax.
Tax is used to pay for goods. Tax increases prices, so even more tax is needed to be collected to pay for those goods, which again increases the price of those goods, which again means more tax needs to be collected to pay for those goods.
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@zedvictor4
Stupid clever is a tad ironic don't you think?
Sometimes very clever people make very stupid decisions.
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@Lemming
The main problem is balance.
When taking away from population to give to the military, the question is how much can be taken away.
If other countries take away more, you have to as well, otherwise you fall behind.
And giving to the military does help economy, but not exactly to average citizen.
You can have a very large economy and very large military while average citizen is very poor, like in China or North Korea or USSR.
Because the main consumers become military and the rich class.
The poor average citizen is worker with low wage. He works, but he doesnt consume much of goods.
Healthy economy does not mean that average citizen isnt poor. It just means that there is money in economy, doesnt mean money is in average citizen's pocket.
Average american pays 4000$ per year for US military alone.
To some, that is higher than their monthly wage.
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@Athias
since most if not all presidents--past and present--have been or are criminals
Criminal Trump works for Putin. He even promised to not be in favor of Ukraine if he wins in 2024. Trump motivated his supporters to overturn an election. US president is not supposed to do that. Elections are everything in democracy. He claimed he won. He wasnt even close to winning. He still today claims that elections were rigged. His supporters attacked on his command, despite no evidence of vote fraud. Its not just one reason that makes Trump different. Its a whole long list of reasons.
There was little he could do about that.
Maybe he could have stopped saying "You dont need to wear a mask. I dont.".
USA had second largest in the world death rate from covid because of Trump.
Which Republicans?
One of Trump's main policies was related to migrants and muslims. There are two types of persons. Constructors and destroyers. Trump doesnt construct much. His policies are mainly about destroying something. Destroying healthcare policies, destroying migration policies... ita all about removing something. Removing muslims, removing migrants, removing taxes, removing obamacare...
Trump's policies created almost 10 trillion debt. Every republican who votes for Trump votes for Trump's policies. So a lot of republicans. You can see it in this forum too. Trump supporters are known for making anti-migrant, anti-muslim claims, as well as some very racist statements about black people. Of course, black people who cant see through this, they can be republicans. But they are also partially nationalist against migrants. We can also see that racists are much much more likely to be Trump supporters or republicans. I wonder why? Could it be because they go with their kind? Obviously. Any party who has such long list of racist supporters is ultimately a racist party. There is a reason racists love Trump. He speaks their thoughts.
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Thats horrible what happened. Life doesnt treat everyone the same. Some people live very good, some have a very bad life from their childhood. Not everyone has equal chance.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Simple. Infinite time cannot pass.
Since time is divided on
Past - Present - Future
If time was infinite, past would be infinite.
Past has to pass for present to occur.
Infinite past cannot pass and present can never occur.
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@Athias
Outside of explicit statement, there's no way for you to know this.
What? What more proof do we need? The only next step left for Trump is to start killing migrants. He already killed lots of muslims in airstrikes. And yes, he robbed poor people of aid.
You're a mind reader? Or are you just projecting your impression?
One doesnt have to be a mindreader to know that republicans are racists. How many "black people are violent" and ""certain police officer" was right in shooting "certain black man"" do we need to realize this? They literally constantly talk shit about Mexicans, muslims... they are constantly putting others in labels. Then they get mad when they themselves are put in label of racists.
Most presidents, if not all, have been criminals
True, but I am not sure whats the point of your whataboutism, because criminal Trump works for Putin to bring civil war in USA and overturn democracy. He is trying to pull off Star Wars episode 3 scenario.
So these legal shenanigans are retaliation for that which he stated he "wanted" to do?
Plenty of reasons to hate Trump, really. One could write a book. The biggest liar, biggest criminal and worst president in US history. Killed thousands of Americans with bad covid management. Any other person would be arrested immediatelly. However, Trump has enough supporters to start civil war. That is why I oppose his arrest.
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@Athias
Its actually very useful to put words in opponent's mouth. We simply make people assume that republicans are racists, which they are. Then we put appropriate words in republican's mouth to paint the picture. But really, all those words are exactly what republicans think, just dont say.
And about locking up opposition, Trump said he wanted to lock up Hillary in 2016 and Biden in 2021. Trump is literally Hitler who hates migrants, muslims and the poor and supports Russia, and now the only question is if we should arrest him now or let him be president 4 years and have him suffer final defeat in 2028 when he fucks up everything and loses 2028 election.
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Obviously democrats removed the poll because it makes them look bad.
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@HistoryBuff
You shouldnt do so much research. In 99% of cases I dont even click on links here.
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@Greyparrot
Its usually not a good idea to make your political opponent look like a victim. In most cases, people side with victims. There is no political disadvantage in being victim unless you fuck up later. Of course, imprisoning Trump would make him the ultimate eternal victim that would justify all the fuck ups he does in case of civil war.
I noticed that the biggest disadvantage you can have in politics is not having an opposition that looks bad and makes you look good even when you fuck up.
Or to put it nicely: "I am bad, but they are worse" is the ultimate political position to have.
Imprisoning Trump would make his opposition look so bad that whatever Trump does next would look good.
I said before, there is no real disadvantage for US in letting Trump run in 2024, compared to imprisoning him.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Infinite space is possible, yes. Repetitive or not, it is possible. Its the infinite time thats not possible, logically.
Also, alternative explanation without proof does not refute infinite possibilities.
Possibility by definition is not something that must happen, simply something that can happen.
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The main problem is:
The bigger the military production = larger amount of money is needed every year to sustain it
The more military production increases, larger amount of money is needed to be paid every year.
If money is not paid, military production falls apart and country becomes vunerable.
However, if countries constantly increase military production (which they have to do to secure dominance), then there is constant decrease in the amount of money left for general population and that means constant increase in poverty.
Resources are limited and the more goes to military, the less goes to population.
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@Greyparrot
Tax evasion is a common problem with high taxes. But the only other option is to have low taxes.
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@Greyparrot
It can still be stopped. But hey, at least the gun rights allow every idiot to buy a gun. Now you have 200 million angry idiots with guns. So yes, it doesnt look well for you.
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@Greyparrot
Yeah mainly that. Plus, arresting him could drive US to civil war. That would make Putin smile.
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@Greyparrot
Biden increased income tax to 40% for the rich. Nice, isnt it?
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Hey, at least he didnt cause 10 trillion more debt 😀
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@cristo71
Maybe there are two dimensions, one where whipping occured and one where it didnt.
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@Greyparrot
South Koreans arent real Koreans.
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@Double_R
If its okay to spank children, it is okay to spank migrants. The only thing that migrants understand is pow pow.
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Good God is Slifer the Sky Dragon, by the way.
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I think infinite number of worlds like this were created accidentally and good God is currently destroying them one by one. Its just that there is too many worlds. Thats why they survive, like ours. Good God wants to destroy them all, but he cant.
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