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@ADreamOfLiberty
Masks don't protect you
I already posted the study that shows contrary.
It doesn't, in the same presentation the guy referred to radiation as a disinfectant
Well, maybe the guy really needs a dictionary. Also, which UV light knocks out Covid in 1 minute? The only one that does so is the one that would burn humans alive. In that case, you might as well set yourself on fire as a mean to treat Covid.
That would be moving the goal posts from you. The claim isn't that Trump came up with the cure for all viruses in that briefing, it's that he didn't tell people to inject bleach.
No. The goalpost is Trump's stupidity regarding Covid. You might live in some fantasy world where you decide other people's goalposts. How naughty. Also, are 330,000 dead Americans also a hoax? Trump said they are.
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“UVC is really nasty stuff – you shouldn't be exposed to it,” says Arnold. “It can take hours to get sunburn from UVB, but with UVC it takes seconds. If your eyes are exposed… you know that gritty feeling you get if you look at the sun? It’s like that times 10, just after a few seconds.”
To use UVC safely, you need specialist equipment and training. The World Health Organization (WHO) has issued a stern warning against people using UV light to sterilise their hands or any other part of their skin.
During the White House briefing on Thursday, the US president suggested that UV light could be brought inside the body to kill the coronavirus. It's not clear which type he meant, but given what we know about the damage UVA, UVB and UVC can do to genetic material and living tissues, this would be a bad idea – let alone impractical, since Covid-19 mostly infects the lungs.
Recently, scientists have discovered a promising new type of UVC which is less dangerous to handle, and still lethal to viruses and bacteria. Far-UVC has a shorter wavelength than regular UVC, and so far, experiments with human skin cells in the lab have shown that it doesn’t damage their DNA (more research is needed to be sure).
On the other hand, bacteria and viruses don’t come off as well, because they are small enough for the light to reach. One study found that it could prevent mouse wounds from becoming infected with the superbug MRSA, while another found that it could kill flu viruses suspended in the air.
However, the vast majority of the UVC lamps on the market don’t use far-UVC yet – and again, it hasn’t been tested in actual humans, just on our cells in petri dishes and other animals. So this type of radiation probably won’t help you during the current pandemic either.
To use UVC safely, you need specialist equipment and training. The World Health Organization (WHO) has issued a stern warning against people using UV light to sterilise their hands or any other part of their skin.
During the White House briefing on Thursday, the US president suggested that UV light could be brought inside the body to kill the coronavirus. It's not clear which type he meant, but given what we know about the damage UVA, UVB and UVC can do to genetic material and living tissues, this would be a bad idea – let alone impractical, since Covid-19 mostly infects the lungs.
Recently, scientists have discovered a promising new type of UVC which is less dangerous to handle, and still lethal to viruses and bacteria. Far-UVC has a shorter wavelength than regular UVC, and so far, experiments with human skin cells in the lab have shown that it doesn’t damage their DNA (more research is needed to be sure).
On the other hand, bacteria and viruses don’t come off as well, because they are small enough for the light to reach. One study found that it could prevent mouse wounds from becoming infected with the superbug MRSA, while another found that it could kill flu viruses suspended in the air.
However, the vast majority of the UVC lamps on the market don’t use far-UVC yet – and again, it hasn’t been tested in actual humans, just on our cells in petri dishes and other animals. So this type of radiation probably won’t help you during the current pandemic either.
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@Greyparrot
Lol, or just use one aspect of a definition to create the word "Bleach"
Well, when Trump said:
"You dont have to wear masks. I wont."
Can you change the meaning of this too, or is MAGA world in trouble again? Imagine having a president who thinks that you dont need to wear the only thing that can protect you at the time.
Well, its true that Trump might not know that the disinfectant talks about liquid specifically, so yes he may have talked about UV lights and unaware of the difference between two words.
Which then really becomes confusing, because he said "it knocks it out in minute". UV light usually takes 20 minutes to an hour to destroy covid. So he lied again. Or he talked about bleach.
Trump is a liar who cant get his fabricated facts straight. Also, you again ignored how UV light is harmful for humans. Maybe there need to be some facts presented here to educate you.
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@Greyparrot
No text from source? Well, this case's closed. Also, you ignored how UV light is harmful.
Maybe I need to explain why "injecting UV light" into lungs is not very smart idea, do I?
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@Greyparrot
Change all definitions in dictionary, yes. That will save the MAGA world.
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@Greyparrot
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning"
I didnt realize UV light can be given by injection. Also, UV light used on humans is also very bad. It can cause cancer and many side effects to all. Your interpretation failed.
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@Greyparrot
Wow...
Disinfecting is not the same as disinfectant. The first talks about general, while the latter talks about liquid specifically.
Are you now going to misunderstand all words to justify Trump's 30000 lies? Maybe write new dictionary as well.
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@Greyparrot
It's a common practice to insert parenthesis when someone is unclear of what the pronouns are referring to. Feel free to insert your own interpretation.
It is only unclear to MAGA brain. I already stated my interpretation to you. But yes, deny reality, that helps you.
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@Greyparrot
I'm talking about a disinfectant too. Is UV a disinfectant or is it not?
Oh God...
Disinfectant meaning:
"a chemical liquid that destroys bacteria"
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@Greyparrot
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it(UVA LIGHT) knocks it(COVID) out in a minute."“Because you see it(COVID) gets in the lungs, and it(COVID) does a tremendous number on the lungs."
I like how you added your own words to text to change meaning. Usually, "it" refers to previously last spoken noun, but Trump and grammar again. This is a sign of desperation of MAGA gang to twist reality. Of course, it wouldnt be their first time to do such a thing. I guess when reality is ugly, people prefer to ignore it and replace.
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@Greyparrot
I was talking about disinfectant. You are attacking a strawman. Your defense is strawman also. I dont blame you tho. Thats the president MAGA way.
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@Stephen
@Deb-8-a-bull
I also find it funny that God appeared and talked to people in the past, but doesnt talk to people today and doesnt show himself anymore to anyone on Earth.
Could those old stories of God appearing in cloud be just old people's rambling tales. People in ancient times did tell lots of lies and invented all sort of religions. If there was just one God, you would expect 1 religion, not 3000 different ones.
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@FLRW
"Widespread mask-wearing associates with an expected 7% (95% CI: 3.94%—9.99%) decline in the growth rate of daily active cases of COVID-19 in the country. This daily decline equates to an expected 88.5% drop in daily active cases over 30 days compared to zero percent mask-wearing, all else held equal."
So yes, Trump didnt handle covid situation well. He made it worse than it would be.
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@zedvictor4
Well, are you suggesting mandatory abortions? Or just sterilization through usual vaccines?
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"The C.D.C. is advising the use of nonmedical cloth face covering as an additional voluntary public health measure. So it’s voluntary. You don’t have to do it. They suggested for a period of time, but this is voluntary. I don’t think I’m going to be doing it." - Trump inspiring Americans not to wear masks.
"I don’t agree with the statement that if everybody wears a mask, everything disappears" - More misleading by Trump
"The report concludes that, although the US was not the worst hit country in the world by this measure, it remained in the top five in terms of overall numbers of deaths.
According to the WHO, in 2020 and 2021 the US recorded more than 930,000 excess deaths, behind India (4.7m), Russia (1.1m) and Indonesia (1m).
The WHO's numbers are largely consistent with statistics from the Economist which run into 2022, as well as other excess death studies.
When adjusted for population size, the US slips down the rankings with 140 excess deaths per 100,000 people. But it remains a long way above the global average of 96 per 100,000 - and it's also one of the worst performing among the most developed nations.".
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Sorry, I meant MAGA American. They almost started civil war. Other Americans are mostly sane.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
just like 200 million other americans when missing context or talking about science they don't understand
Yeah, science of disinfectant. Really complicated for American.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Of course, American education might not involve complicated words like "disinfectant". That was probably the first time Trump heard such big word. Trump did say 30000 lies during his time as MAGA president. But sure, defend the dumbest president in history of your nation. Also, you didnt refute my arguments, so I guess I win.
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@Greyparrot
"So it would be interesting to check that."
This isnt really a question. Its really an obvious statement.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Trump thought that this "disinfectant" was some kind of new chemical or substance that had been found. He did not realize it was a test of commonly available cleaning solutions.
Yeah, they should have used simple words so Trump can understand. Disinfectant sure is a very big word so Trump couldnt understand.
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@Greyparrot
Wouldn't be the first time Trump was indicted/impeached for asking questions
A question that is so dumb to the point where it was like he was mocking everyone. Not a good idea to joke when 200.000 people die and people are seeking hope not joke.
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@Sidewalker
No, he said they should try injecting bleach.
Trump does say funny retarded things. Later he said he was joking. Not sure if joking was appropriate.
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@Tradesecret
Okay, I have one question now.
Why am I labeled "HAriskrish"?
I will label you as follower of Ra.
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School is a place of child abuse. Lots of bullying is ignored. Human teachers dont care. Its simply a natural fact that people are incapable of caring for other people's children.
This produces students who are forced to be in same room as their abuser. They are forced to endure daily attacks and punches, diminishing their ability to be educated.
It also encourages abuser to abuse even more, seeing he has daily victim and that he can get away with it. It teaches abuser that there are ways he can abuse without being caught.
Whats even more tragic is that targets of abuse are often exceptionally smart children or children with disabilities, or children that are different in some way from average in school.
There are also ignored failed students, those who teachers pay no attention to. These students have no benefit from current school system, as witnessing abuse doesnt help.
Human teachers are simply incapable to adjust to needs of one student. In the future, each student will have own personal AI teacher and schools as we know it will get abolished.
This will not only solve abuse at schools and prevent crime, but also give each student an opportunity to learn in a safe environment that is dedicated to his needs.
We already have examples of home schooled kids. Now just imagine each child having AI teacher at home. We already have many apps for AI. We just need to mass produce AI teachers.
I predict that in 20 to 40 years, school system will get abolished due to its abusive and neglective nature, and AI will create better system that gives more chance to every single child.
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@Critical-Tim
I also believe that if one wants to develop something as complicated as a new political structure, developing a new school system would be a start. Children are never taught how to learn they're just told what to memorize and it's a sink or swim environment. Many things would change for the better with Implementing not only the personalized target schooling but also these foundational philosophical principles listed in my three series. If students were taught How to fear ignorance and desire knowledge along with the 12 traits and how to learn along with what is to follow, I cannot fathom how much the future generation would change in a direction that is more competent, financially secure, passionate about their work, and mentally stable as a result of their pursuit aligning with their subconscious passions.
From my point of view, each person wants something. Learning about things you want is much easier than learning about things that dont interest you. An interesting book is easily remembered. However, when a book is boring, you will forget it all, even the title.
Also, I believe AI is the future of learning. Human teachers are simply incapable to adjust to needs of one student. In the future, each student will have own personal AI teacher and schools as we know it will get abolished.
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@Athias
Well, democracy was never about voluntary unions of people. If an individual must serve some system against his will, he is not voluntary part of that system anymore. Voluntary unions are the greatest form of freedom, obviously. Its just hard for people to stop imposing themselves on others. Of course, the advantage of voluntary unions is that person can follow such idea even when only few others do. However, democracy cannot be willingly followed by those unwillingly exploited by majority/voting majority.
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@Athias
With so many people refusing to vote, can it still be called democracy, rule of majority?
Because it is obviously not rule of majority anymore. Majority is mostly silent.
There is a political game at play to basically bully people into not voting at all.
Pure idiotic political game made people lose trust in the democratic system.
74 million voters who gave us Trump are only 20% of the population.
Well, 30% if you count only adults, which is almost twice less than majority.
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@Athias
Still, I do find it amazing that 20% of the population decides your country's faith.
Or 30%, if you count just adults and ignore that 15 year old has an opinion too.
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@FLRW
Well, the worst thing we can do now is give Sophia some weapon. What can she do to 8 billion humans if she has no weapons?
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@FLRW
God: I like to go to Strip Clubs
So its all good.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
What made you come out of the closet to say the truth about Jesus?
I could no longer lie to myself.
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Problem of evil would only be a problem for all-good God.
However, Christian God is not all-good. He is not even more good than evil.
He is almost pure evil.
So the fact that evil exists is a clear proof that evil creator exists, and everything points to Christian God being the evil creator.
Some of you might say "But Bible says God is good".
Son, thats called lying. God who sends bears to kill children clearly wouldnt have problem with lying that he is actually good. After so many murders in the Bible, God committing the sin of lying is really not even a surprise.
Also, God said: "I made humans in my own image".
Well, humans are mostly sadists and liars. So it is very likely that Christian God is sadist and liar. He lied that he is good to torture humans even more.
Another reason why problem of evil is not a problem for Christian God is that Christian God could be incredibly stupid. He might not even understand that what he does is evil. We cant exclude the possibility that Christian God is mentally retarded.
I mean think about it, how can all powerful smart God limit himself to dealing with human problems. Its like me trying to regulate life of ants in my backyard. Would a smart person do that?
Another reason why problem of evil is not a problem for Christian God is because Christian God can change definition of good and evil. For example, he can define good as anything that pleases him, making all human suffering good.
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Trans rights are human rights, they are everyone's rights upheld.
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Religion does teach tolerance, it for sure as hell does. Thats why religious people are so much tolerant of everyone. Remember when Christian parents kicked homosexual teenagers from their homes? The 1980s sure showed the great Christian love and tolerance. And conservatives are just Christians trying to have it again.
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@prefix
So you prefer a site flooded with insults and personal attacks everywhere? We already had that, it was pretty boring and harmed actual debates.
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Personal attacks and insults can get you banned and thats probably good. Those are the rules implemented after this site was flooded with insults.
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Sorry, I am just Cathy Newmaning you at this moment.
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So you are saying that we should burn down CNN. That might cause more violence and wouldnt help with anything.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Are you trying to get yourself banned? I usually keep quiet when its between you and RM, but I cant help but say now that this is some obsession that will get you banned.
I have no idea why you took trolling so far to target one specific user so long. This is not the site to play some fantasy arch rivarly, not with new rules. You can stop this.
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@ebuc
Well said.
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In realms where words take form and sway,
A sonata resounds, I do convey,
Of a man named Donald, with golden sheen,
Whose presence upon the world's stage was seen.
A symphony begins, with pomp and pride,
Trumpets blaring, his power personified,
From towers high, he cast a commanding gaze,
A magnet for attention in myriad ways.
Verse one, a crescendo of business might,
A tycoon's empire, shining bright,
With flair and flourish, a deal-making maven,
He built an empire, dollar signs engraven.
His words, a melody, strong and clear,
Rousing supporters, dispelling fear,
Through crowds he swayed, a mesmerizing show,
A conductor of sorts, a populous tableau.
But allegro vivace, a faster pace, is set,
As his campaign for presidency met,
He stirred the pot, with each provocative line,
A brand of politics, unapologetically brine.
Verse two, a scherzo, a whirlwind of tweets,
Opinions and tirades, delivered with beats,
With each keystroke, a tempestuous storm,
Divisions deepened, eyes transfixed, and transformed.
A symphony of clashes, of narratives entwined,
His policies questioned, his character maligned,
Yet, amidst the chaos, a loyal band,
A baseline of supporters, who firmly stand.
Adagio follows, a slower movement's grace,
A respite from tumult, revealing another face,
Through summits and handshakes, diplomacy's game,
A president's role, to represent and tame.
With every gesture, a rhapsody unfolds,
In meetings with foes, and deals he beholds,
An unforeseen volte-face, a puzzling sight,
A bridge builder one moment, a wall-builder by night.
And now, as the final movement arrives,
A coda to reflect, on what's left behind,
A symphony incomplete, yet still in progress,
A legacy yet undecided, a nation's guess.
The sonata concludes on a lingering note,
A reflection on power, and its unyielding cloak,
No matter the feelings or political bent,
We're all players in this symphony's ascent.
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Conspiracy, lie and hate
These no longer rule our fate
You will not fool us twice
Ours is the land of freedom
Yours is the dream of vice
What are you even fighting for?
We dont want your hate anymore
You are another skilled liar
Putting our land on fire
How many more indicements
Is liar Trump going to cause
Before we stop taking guess
and end this entire bad mess
He tried to confuse and cheat
Hoping we were just dumb sheep
His tactics are not new beat
He is not someone to keep
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@Critical-Tim
Well, treating each individual as state would be a form of anarchy. It probably isnt possible to sustain. However, having 200-300 regions divided by opinions seems simple enough to sustain, assuming a central power regulates it.
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@FLRW
Just another typical republican with his list of truths. Also, he forgot to say which God actually exists. Why does he assume there is just one God?
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@Barney
There is not much to argue. Current list is missing the point. It missed its own stated point.
Athias is not online often enough. SkepticalOne is not online often enough.
Making them mods wouldnt help much, if we seek actual mod activity.
That only leaves Greyparrot and Savant, with Savant being less active user.
In terms of presence on site, RM beats them all by far.
List of new mods counts activity. RM is most consistent in presence. He was consistently active for years. Thats why list should include RM.
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