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Climate change is real
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@Greyparrot
China benefits a lot from green policies. Europe, USA... not so much.

So either bow to China either have more global warming.

The term "warming' should probably be changed. Global burning is a more appropriate term. Warming doesnt accurately describe whats happening to nature.
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Yes, Evolutionists Are Still Wrong. There Will Be Another Gish To Disprove Them.
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@oromagi
Trump uses Gish Gallop. It made him president.
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Yes, Evolutionists Are Still Wrong. There Will Be Another Gish To Disprove Them.

I watch these old debates, where Gish ran circles around evolutionists. He made every evolutionist look like a complete idiot in the debate. These evolutionists actually argued that evolution supports the belief in God. It was at the time when atheism was a no no 🙈

Gish invented a debating tactic called "Gish Gallop", which he used to torture evolutionists logically. It was a hard time for an evolutionist.
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Here Is Why I Think That Good God Doesnt Exist
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@Stephen
You always seem angry about something. Where is BrotherD?
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Problem of evil does not disprove omnibenevolent God, not even close.
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@WillyB
Evil isn’t going unpunished
So it is punished? What are you even talking about?
Are you sure it was a Christian school that you went to? Because from your description, it doesnt sound like a Christian school. It sounds like a horror movie.
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@Stephen
God creates evil to punish it. God's action is good.
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Climate change is real
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@Vegasgiants
Lol
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@WillyB
So you admit that in your world, evil doesnt get punished because evil isnt a thing in your world. That is not a good world. Evil should be punished. Evil doesnt deserve peaceful non-existence. Why would a rapist deserve eternal peace of non-existence? Better for him to burn in hell.
You mention that Bible is full of inaccuracies, but I doubt that you actually read the Bible, given your false claims about it.
It seems more like you get your information from some atheist site. Atheists do love to lie about the Bible. For example, they often use out of context fallacy. Bible offers the best moral system ever known to man. It is also one of the easiest moral systems to learn. Even a 5 year old can learn it. So yes, it is supernatural. My advice to you is to read the Bible, at least the Gospels. Pascal's Wager says that atheists are most likely to go to hell. So its really not a good gamble for you. At best, you can hope that Satan is the real God. What does that tell about atheist morality? Why would someone be an atheist? Decent people are usually Christians.
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@WillyB
I actually presented many times the scientific accuracy of the Bible. For example, Bible describes cloning and surgeries. I dont need to say that cloning and surgeries as described in the Bible 4000 years ago could not have existed at that time.
Bible also says that Earth floats in space. It doesnt say that Earth is flat.
Bible is supernatural.
Also, you ignored how you cannot punish evil if evil doesnt exist. So in your world, evil gets away unpunished. The right thing to do is to punish evil. You read too many fairy tales. World isnt a fairy tale, and your logic doesnt work.
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@WillyB
Evil should be punished, even if evil is not at fault for being evil. That is an undeniable fact. Your alternative is not to punish evil. Evil, by not existing, cannot be punished. Your argument is to allow non-existence to evil people and spare them of any real punishment. That means to reward evil by giving it peace in non-existence. Do rapists deserve peace? Only God is good. God has greater knowledge than you. So God knows better about whats right. Also, you are trying to defend problem of evil after it was obviously refuted. You cannot provide a reason why evil should not be punished. Most people prefer to punish evil. You too would like to punish evil. Its just that in debates like this, people like to fake goodness and make standards which they themselves would never uphold in any other scenario, as explained before. Society punishes a person even if its society's fault for person being evil. Agnostics go to hell too. You know that Bible is scientifically accurate and full of miracles? You will be tortured less if you believe. Besides, atheism is irrational. Even doubting that God exists is irrational. Bible offers scientific evidence for God. Just because you refuse to accept obvious truth, doesnt make it any less true.
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@WillyB
Evil needs to be punished. The only way to punish evil is for evil to exist. Good God would create evil, so that evil can be punished. Some babies masturbate in the womb. Babies are atheists. So not so innocent anymore. Babies would grow to be evil people, so thats just preemptive punishment. You dont get heaven just because you didnt get a chance to do more crime. As I said, all people are psychopaths who kill and torture each other. They break the speed limit. They pollute nature. They hurt each other. They are liars, abortionists. They insult others. They beat others. These people deserve nothing but hell. Thats where they will go. I assume you wont be in 0.018% due to your atheism.
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The Book "Win Every Argument" by Mehdi Hasan is good, but I have problems with things it says
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@Critical-Tim
I usually create new arguments from rebuttals. I challenge people to attack my ideas. When they do, it helps me create new arguments that I can use outside rebuttals.

I am curious. What do you think of the rule of the three?

Book says that perfect argument has 3 parts and conclusion.

For example, Conclusion + 3 reasons to support it.

I often have much more reasons to support a conclusion, but the book insists to use only 3 because the audience better accepts it.

I feel like it ruins the comparison of cases.
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Problem of evil does not disprove omnibenevolent God, not even close.
Even a baby can burn in hell for some crimes only known to God.
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@WillyB
Currently, the chance of entering heaven is 0.018%.

In the Bible, only 140,000 people out of 8 billion entered heaven.

Thats 0.018%.

All those who entered heaven were virgins who did not defile themselves with women, porn or whatever.

So yes, statistically, 99% of deceased people you knew are now burning in hell.
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@WillyB
The problem of evil is usually a critique of either The Bible or The Quran.
The God of the Bible is all good, but also the only one who is good.
I was responding from the point of view of the Bible. Bible considers all humans evil. Evil people deserve punishment. We cant say that evil should go unpunished. We all agree that evil person needs to be punished even if its not his fault for being evil. Most people are evil due to abusive environment. However, no one will abolish prisons if society makes person evil. Evil person still goes to prison. Same works with God. There is no excuse to let evil have it easy by non-existing. According to our own standards, it doesnt matter if person has no choice. Evil is meant to suffer. Good gets treated good. Evil gets treated badly. This society wouldnt have it other way. It is God's right to do that which is right. How many times have you heard "I hope you burn in hell"? These people want for evil ones to suffer, not just cease to exist. What they dont realize is that they too are evil and are basically condemning themselves. Blaming God for that which you do is no good. God gives rewards to the best people. Even best people are evil. Thats why even best people experience suffering on Earth. Since best people are much less evil than others, they get heaven. Statistically, you only have 0.01% chance of entering heaven.
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i could actually see an argument that trump committed no crimes
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@FLRW
I bet you inappropriately touch your cat
It sounds like a joke more than an insult. Still, it is irrelevant to the topic.

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@IlDiavolo
If I told you all the things I experienced in life, you wouldnt believe me. Sometimes even I dont believe.
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What made you interested in debate?
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@DavidAZ
I hate debating in real, since  there is no rules. People interrupt you in the middle of a sentence. People wont let you even get to the word. Also, they often lie and mock you instead of using arguments. They often use logical fallacies that are hard to correct in real time.
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Climate change is real
Everyone wants to win, but that might cause everyone to lose.
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Climate change is real
People in the world can either give up their militaries and be conquered by those who dont, or they can all perish together.

They call this painful choice argument.
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Climate change is real
Sadly, it will get more hot.

And USA depends on fossil fuels.

Military doesnt run on solar panels lmao
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@WillyB
It says in the Bible that only God is good. Everyone else is evil. So babies and animals are evil. If God didnt make people evil, he wouldnt be able to punish evil people. Evil people wouldnt exist, and wouldnt be punished. Evil people cannot escape God's punishment by not existing. We know that all humans are mentally ill psychopaths. They can at best pray that God decreases their punishment. Sure, they might end up in heaven after being punished on Earth, but I wouldnt count on it. 99% of people go to hell to burn. Even in relevation, only 144000 people entered heaven out of billions of people. So yes, your chances of heaven are non-existent.
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@Stephen
How would I know why God created something? Its like me asking you why do I like to drink lots of water.
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Just how many times are you going to spam the forum with redundant threads?
I am sorry 🥺

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It is better to die like a vegan than live like a murderer
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@zedvictor4
Encourages more road kills.
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@TWS 

Meat is murder, obviously.
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@WillyB
Animals are evil too.
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@WillyB
No. Babies arent innocent. Babies are evil.
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@Stephen
You can call it sadism. However, evil must be punished.
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@TWS

You cant dodge punishment by non-existing. You cant fool God. He is all knowing. He knows whats good. Society punishes a criminal even when its obvious that he is not at fault for being a criminal, even when its obvious that society made him criminal. Good God had to create evil. We are not Gods. We are not like God. It says in the Bible that only God is good. Maybe we are similar in some way, but not in all ways, obviously.
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Problem of evil does not disprove omnibenevolent God, not even close.
All people are evil

It is good that evil people are punished.

Evil people must exist in order to be punished.

Omnibenevolent God would create evil people so that they can be punished for their evil.

So next time you see evil, remember that you deserved it. We all deserved it because we are evil.

You may say: "God created me this way. His fault.".

God created you evil so that he may punish you. It is what a good God would do. How is he going to punish you for your evil if he doesnt create you evil?

When given these two options:

1. Dont create evil and therefore, dont punish evil

2. Create evil and punish evil

We see that in option 1, evil doesnt get punished. Good by definition includes punishing evil. Therefore, creating evil to punish it is the way to go to be all good.
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@IlDiavolo
Well, what do you get when you have a mentally ill person and society that abuses him and treats him like shit?

You get me 😊
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Most people dont know how badly the pedophiles are treated in prison
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@IlDiavolo
Some girls can get pregnant at age 9. We cannot follow average, since average doesnt always apply. In ancient times, when girl can get pregnant, she is ready. Plenty of happy marriages back then. No one complained. Now many complain. I guess its the US brainwashing. Most people dont really care much about well being of children. Most people break speed limits. However, they do like hating others, especially map. I get a lot of hate online.
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@IlDiavolo
I was circumcised at age 1. Double standards.
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@IlDiavolo
Some girls get period at age 8. Getting period means you can get pregnant. I started masturbating when I was 7, but was only able to produce cum at 10 or 11.
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@Stephen
If someone's opinion disagrees with my own opinion, I usually assume its wrong even if I cant refute it.
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@Lemming
The advantages to trees is not just lack of machines.

When the soil is undisturbed, you literally get extra wild food growing around trees, such as dandelions and other wild edibles.

So with trees, you simply get much more. Plus, it takes like 10 minutes to plant a tree and it can produce food for decades.
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@Lemming
Also, I need to say that most vegetables taste like shit.
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@Lemming
Thats in case of vegetable and grain farming.

In case of fruit, there are usually no machines involved.

Fruit and nuts grow on a tree. Plus, they are more nutritious than vegetables and grains.

Also, animal farming often depends upon regular grain farming.

Chickens need to be fed with grains.

Eh, lesser evil, greater evil and what not.
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Do car owners feel bad about all the people and animals they killed?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
It should be obvious motorcycles are more dangerous
No. Its the cars that make motorcycles dangerous. You get hit by a car. Car runs over someone. Cars even pose a threat to bicycles. Maybe you are not interested in saving lives. Motorcycles can be dangerous if driven at high speed. However, they are not dangerous at low speeds. Car has greater mass, longer breaking time and stronger impact. Car is much more likely to kill pedestrian, kill bicycle, kill anything really. Everyone should switch to bicycles. We all know that self driving cars wont work and wont happen. People watch too many movies. Trying to make the least safe mode of transport the safest one doesnt work. Better switch it to something that actually works right now. Sure, I have dreams too of many great fairy tales. They wont become reality.
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@Lemming
I am a vegetarian myself. I like cheese. Cheese is murder, I know. Its my personal guilt. My parents forced me to eat meat as a kid. Later as adult, I rejected meat. I literally dont know why people eat meat. It tastes like shit and its hard to chew.
I am not starving on my vegetarian diet. In fact, I gained weight. I am slightly overweight. Bananas make you fat.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Veganism is morally superior. We all die, but not all of us kill animals.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
With tunnels, elevated express ways, or caged in ground level roads
Cheaper to just buy a bicycle. Also, no country was ever able to do what you are suggesting. Hell, USA cant even fix regular roads. They all suck. US is in debt already. Also more difficult to cross the street.

I've crashed a motorcycle at 30 mph and had only one broken bone, you're exaggerating.
I said in case of cars. I didnt say death is guaranteed in every case. I said the death is guaranteed. To put it simply, some people will die due to cars going over 15 mph even if computer guided. Also, computers tend to fail. Sensors stop working. Breaks stop working. There is a failure on the road. The car suddenly breaks down. Things happen.
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@IlDiavolo
Actually, the youngest girl ever who gave birth was 5 years old.

It is rare, but it happens. When it happens, it increases birth rates.
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@FLRW
Trump, the new master of Gish Gallop.

The Gish Gallop is the fallacious debate tactic of drowning your opponent in a flood of individually-weak arguments in order to prevent rebuttal of the whole argument collection without great effort. It's essentially a conveyor belt-fed version of the on the spot fallacy, as it's unreasonable for anyone to have a well-composed answer immediately available to every argument present in the Gallop. The Gish Gallop is named after creationist Duane Gish, who often abused it.

Duane Gish died in 2013, but his debating tactic is used by Trump now. You could even say that Trump became president thanks to Gish Gallop.
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@Lemming
Cars are the least safe and the most expensive mode of transport that ever existed.
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@FLRW
It's not the vegan diet why she died
Thats how the media reports it.

Media says three things in same article:

1. Cause of death is still being investigated

2. She died from vegan diet

3. She died from some deadly disease

Its a corrupt media at work, contradicting itself.

They want to twist the truth to confuse readers. 

They want to impose their own views.

Article is obviously terribly misleading.
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Vegan influencer Zhanna Samsonova 'dies of starvation' after decade of only eating raw fruit and vegetables


She claimed that life is pointless, but there is purpose in realizing that life is pointless.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Also as soon as people start writing some reliable software (opposite of neural nets) with reliable sensors the road kill issue will be solved.
No. The main, unresolvable problem for self-driving cars is speed. Any speed faster than 15 miles per hour guarantees traffic deaths in case of cars. However, no person wants to buy a car that goes only 15 mph. They want cars that go 40 miles per hour and more. With such speed, breaking path is simply too long for a car to stop in time.

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@ADreamOfLiberty
Electric bicycle is the superior mode of transport. If battery dies, it becomes regular bicycle and can still go.

Electric scooters are also fun.
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