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@BrotherD.Thomas
Therefore Jesus knew beforehand in the future that He was going to be against incest
No. He knew that He was going to be against incest when the conditions for such decision are met.
If I say "if it rains today, I will bring umbrella. If it doesnt rain, I wont bring umbrella."
and then I see that it doesnt rain today and I dont bring umbrella, I didnt change anything in my original decision.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
EXPLAIN THE ENTIRE SITUATION ABOVE, THE MEMBERSHIP IS WATCHING AND WAITING
Easy to explain, really.
If I say that I will ban something after Friday, I will ban it after Friday. There is no change in opinion if I say I didnt ban it before Friday, since I didnt say that I will ban it before Friday.
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When reading BBC, I usually have to go through plenty of stupidity to get to the news.
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I was thinking about this text from the Bible
Mark 10.
"As Jesus was starting out on his way to Jerusalem, a man came running up to him, knelt down, and asked,
“Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
“Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question, you know the commandments:
“Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question, you know the commandments:
‘You must not murder.
You must not commit adultery.
You must not steal.
You must not testify falsely.
You must not cheat anyone.
Honor your father and mother.’"
It is incredible that God's Law is so easy to read and learn. Anyone can understand it, and it results in improvement to all those who accept it.
Compare it to the laws of countries today. You will see that the laws in countries today contain thousands of words in hundreds of pages.
Yet all their laws are inferior to God's Law.
A child can understand God's Law easily.
God's Law is a complete Law that gives answer to all situations in life in just few minutes of reading.
Every young person should learn the 10 Commandments and the prayer "Our Father".
10 Commandments:
"And God spoke all these words:
“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
1) “You shall have no other gods before me.
2)“You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
3) “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
4) “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
5) “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.
6) “You shall not murder.
7) “You shall not commit adultery.
8) “You shall not steal.
9) “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
10) “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”"
Prayer "Our Father":
"Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread
and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil."
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@BrotherD.Thomas
What the hell do you mean Jesus as God later banned INCEST?!
The ban on incest didnt exist until God made the ban. I am not sure what confuses you in that sentence. It is irrelevant to changing opinion, since same opinion can support both banning and allowing incest under different conditions. The same opinion being the increase of life.
Listen up Bible fool, in committing adultery is irrelative of a woman being married to two men
No. The main point in ban on adultery is that woman stays married to one man while he lives. She cannot have sex with other men and she cannot marry other men.
"If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman MUST DIE. You must purge the evil from Israel."
Yes, that would be better.
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@Greyparrot
Bodily autonomy only applies to women in cases of abortions.
It doesnt apply anywhere else. Otherwise, people would be able to walk around naked and commit suicide without being prevented.
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Most of the prisons are filled with beatings and rape. I dont see what makes this prison special. Maybe the amount of innocent people and muslims in it?
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@Double_R
What we should do about anything is by definition, a matter of opinion.
I already refuted this. The consequences of what we do are objective facts, and not a matter of anyone's opinion.
I dont see why you repeat a refuted point.
You cant admit that the CNN is hiding the fact that more weapons to Ukraine = more deaths. Therefore, do you approve of CNN's hiding of this objective fact?
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@zedvictor4
GOD's say f**k all
I wouldnt say that God says that. The adultery is forbidden. One woman cannot be married to two men at the same time, for example. So no, you cannot have sex with a woman who has sex with other man. Until that man dies, she is his wife.
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@Stephen
Did "the Lord" say that to Lot and his two daughters too? So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. genesis !9: 36
The daughters did actually use the excuse of multiplying to sleep with their father.
God later banned such actions.
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@Platypi
The event is sad, yes. Loss of life.
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Being fruitful is God's command. One that is often mentioned.
Genesis 9
Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. 2 The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth, and on all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands. 3 Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.
4 “But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it. 5 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of another human being.
6 “Whoever sheds human blood,
by humans shall their blood be shed;
for in the image of God
has God made mankind.
7 As for you, be fruitful and increase in number; multiply on the earth and increase upon it.”
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@ebuc
Was Mr Perry doing anything to inflame the protestors?
Lets turn the tables a little.
Why would someone bring Ak-47 to a protest?
Not defending Perry, just wondering.
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@IlDiavolo
It doesn't matter how much money the US provide , these countries will never thrive because of the rampant corruption
Giving money to corrupt people rarely solves anything.
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@Savant
If you think that my debate helps your arguments, feel free to use it.
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@Savant
Are you trying to continue a finished debate? No, thats not how it works. The debate already ended and I won.
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@Greyparrot
People usually think "If Russia=bad, then Ukraine=good".
The truth is that both Russia and Ukraine are shitty countries. Two shitty countries fighting each other, none of our buisness. We shouldnt even give them attention, let alone money.
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Sending more money to Ukraine?
I wont be surprised if Ukraine ends up being a very rich country after the war...
It is like the war actually benefited Ukraine more than peace did, when we exclude part of the population that was sacrificed so that others may get richer.
Also, Ukraine buying oil from Russia? How does that make any sense? Running out of oil or just desperately greedy to make money in war to the point where they are helping the enemy?
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@Platypi
Are you guys talking about tasers?
What is an option that is as good as a gun, that is currently available?
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@Stephen
Trannies have already implemented their laws in Canada.
In Canada, misgendering means you go to prison.
If someone refused to use a preferred pronoun — and it was determined to constitute discrimination or harassment — could that potentially result in jail time?
It is possible, Brown says, through a process that would start with a complaint and progress to a proceeding before a human rights tribunal. If the tribunal rules that harassment or discrimination took place, there would typically be an order for monetary and non-monetary remedies. A non-monetary remedy may include sensitivity training, issuing an apology, or even a publication ban, he says.
If the person refused to comply with the tribunal's order, this would result in a contempt proceeding being sent to the Divisional or Federal Court, Brown says. The court could then potentially send a person to jail “until they purge the contempt,” he says.
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Guns are at the center of self-defense ideology.
By this ideology, an individual has a right to do anything to protect his own life.
Having a gun is better for self-defense.
If guns are banned, what will you defend yourself with? A knife? That only works if other person isnt much stronger than you and is unarmed.
The guns make it easy to defend yourself against anyone. It is especially important for women, who are too weak to use a knife effectively.
I dont follow the self defense ideology, but one can understand its point about guns and how it also applies to the increase of life.
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@Double_R
that giving Ukraine the tools they are asking us for so that they can defend their homeland is morally wrong and atrocious
Yes. Prolonging the war and causing more deaths is morally wrong and atrocious.
CNN is a war propaganda machine, which is as bad as the news can get. There are plenty of people who say we shouldnt support Ukraine's suicide. However, none of those people get to speak on CNN, because telling the truth isnt in CNN's nature, when promoting the war is much better for views.
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So a man dresses like a girl and wins a girl's contest.
Usually, we watched that in cartoons and laughed at it.
Now its reality!
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@Greyparrot
Watch this carefully and you will see who is really in power.
"He is being really dumb to do this"
"It was always planned for Friday"
"they are really upset with how he talked about them"
"you take on them, they have 6 ways to get back at you"
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@FLRW
He’s facing more than 100 years in prison.
So the 3 guys that started a bunch of wars and killed millions of people are walking freely. But Trump, the guy who prevents wars and makes deals is sentenced to 100 years in prison? Well, that sounds... out of touch.
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Also the fact that it could make a person infertile.
These hormones, testesterone and estrogen, are given at 13-14 years of age.
Now lets pretend that a 14 year-old is capable of making this decision.
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@FLRW
North Korean "Haeil" is many many times smaller than a carrier, but can cause radioactive tsunami.
How does one intercept a radioactive tsunami?
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Countries by navy:
People's Republic of China: 730
Russia: 598
North Korea: 519
United States of America: 484
Russia: 598
North Korea: 519
United States of America: 484
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The war with China might not be a good idea, and placing nuclear submarines next to their country might not encourage peace.
Remember, China is the world's biggest navy, but they dont place their bases next to USA.
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@TheUnderdog
If applied to abortion, that would mean you would have to kill about 1/6 females (and the 1/6 men that are also the parents of an aborted baby).
The moment abortion becomes punished by death, no one will dare to admit they had an abortion anymore. I guess we could spare the ones who had abortion before the law takes place, but after the law is placed there is no sparing.
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@TheUnderdog
You REALLY think slavery and marital rape are small issues?
Small issues compared to bigger issues.
Do you think these things should be legal?
Forced marriages should be legal in some cases, but discouraged in general. In cases of rape, woman marrying her rapist is actually better for the woman. Marital rape is to be condemned, but not to be made illegal. Slavery is to be illegal in most cases, but I wouldnt say we should support self-ownership. After all, man is the head of the woman.
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@TheUnderdog
Compared to today's society, those are minor issues. We still have some countries where slavery exists in some forms, where marital rape exists, where forced marriages exist.
Now, we also have nuclear weapons, pollution, abortions, failed marriages, more suicides, more mental illnesses and low birth rates.
What we can learn from the ancient people is that greed can lead to destruction. They warned about greed often, and about too much wealth.
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@TheUnderdog
So would you jail someone for the rest of their life if they caused someone to need a kidney from a car accident and refused to give a kidney?
No, I would execute people for that. If you caused someone to lose kidneys and they are about to die due to the lack of a kidney, the least you can do is pay for one kidney or donate one of yours. I believe there are already laws regarding similar situations. Freedom is a good thing, but sacrificing lives of others for some fun isnt exactly good, even if labeled as freedom.
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500 years ago, if you asked a 10 year old what is a woman, she would answer: woman is someone who marries, gives birth to children and cares for them.
I guess we really have to go back in time and learn from the ancient people. They seem to be much better at everything than we are.
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@TheUnderdog
When you know that your actions will kill someone and you still choose to do those actions because you find it fun, you are a killer. You had a choice not to kill.
Its not like the responsibility magically disappears just because you wish it does.
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I dont drink alcohol. I have canceled the entire "living in sin" culture in favor of God's word.
But if I were to drink alcohol, I certainly wouldnt drink the one supporting self-castration.
Call it cancel culture if you like. I prefer to call it "cancel abominations".
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@ludofl3x
I was gonna say afganistan, but America seems worse.
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@ludofl3x
which culture cares only a little
American culture.
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@ludofl3x
What's your example of a culture that, as a whole, doesn't care about other people at all?
Well, sure, every culture cares a little? Not much, but little.
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@Slainte
Caring for others is seen in all cultures
True. Not caring for others is also seen in plenty of cultures. So there is some "care, dont care" mix.
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@Greyparrot
True. But one must be careful with moral consistency. Sometimes its better to abandon the standpoint than try to be consistent with it.
Sometimes trying to be consistent results in slippery slope where people end up justifying all sort of nonsense to maintain position.
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@Greyparrot
I believe that depends on the standpoint. Certain standpoints are better than others.
Mine being "the increase of life", which makes abortion bad. It also makes self defense good, because killing a killer actually increases life.
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Caring for others is actually not in human nature.
Thats why it has to be taught.
Plenty of us say: "I care about others".
However, plenty of us break the speed limit for pleasure.
Women dont actually benefit from freedom to abortion. The abortion is a slippery slope, since it allows a woman to be reckless with her life, but that leads to more problems.
Even if we completely ignore that abortion is killing of an unborn human, can we ignore that having an abortion negatively impacts women?
Isnt it better when a woman is not allowed to have sex with plenty of men?
Isnt it better when a woman has one good relationship compared to plenty of bad ones?
Abortion encourages the destruction of relationships.
Returning to the topic.
The unborn baby is powerless. It is not the baby's fault that the mother decided to have sex. Its not the baby's fault that mother doesnt want her. However, baby pays the greatest price, despite being the least guilty for the situation that happened.
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@iwannaaroosevelt
I guess your line of thought goes like:
1) Check if person opposes to my ideas,
2) If 1 is true, then check the job and income of that person and compare it to mine,
3) if "my income > that person's income", then I am right and that person is wrong by these objective metrics.
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@Steven
If these things are allowed to carry on we may never see another female champion in sport ever again.
I tried to say "oh no" to that, but I really couldnt.
Since plenty of women support LGBT, this seems like well deserved.
Women do bad things, then complain about the consequences of their actions by blaming others.
It is why I never take woman's opinion seriously.
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Women should not be in any governing positions.
The moment you start putting women as leaders, judges, heads of households, ministers... the entire thing falls apart.
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@ludofl3x
that doesn't rule out that you could face repercussions at your work because of your behavior or things you say
It just keeps getting better.
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Trump wanted to use the army to shoot down BLM protesters.
You forgot to mention that Trump is white.
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@ludofl3x
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