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@ADreamOfLiberty
From anyone else I would question your reading comprehension
I have a hard time believing that someone would write those things. I have no natural explanation for it.
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@Greyparrot
Its also possible that someone used black magic to turn you guys into cartoon characters. It is possible.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
The context of the 2nd amendment is clear. It protects missile launchers MORE than a switchblade because missile launchers are MORE useful against a potentially tyrannical government.
It doesn't matter if a universe without school shootings would be an improvement
you can end black crime instantly by killing all the blacks. A universe without black crime being a good thing does not mean you can do anything to get there nor does it mean anyone who tells you to stop your immoral actions must come up with another way to your utopia. You're the one being evil, you need to stop.
We are literally living in a cartoon and these are just cartoon characters. No way real person says this.
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It seems that certain rhetorical devices work much better than others to improve the sound quality of text/speech.
Here, I have listed some rhetorical devices commonly used by best/popular speakers in history and in present.
1. Repetition
Repeating part of sentences. For example, three sentences that each have same first part.
"You can hunt us. You can bombard us. You can even kill us. We will never capitulate."
Notice that in 3 sentences, the words "you can" is repeated 3 times.
The word "us" is also repeated 3 times.
So in those 3 sentences, first and last parts are same in all 3 sentences.
You can choose to have same first part in each sentence, same middle part or same ending part, or some combination of these.
Same first part is called anaphora.
Same last part is called epistrophe or epiphora.
Repetition of words or groups of words isnt the only way. There is also repetition of sounds and letters in sentences, same letters at start of words.
These are usually alliteration, assonance.
2. Parallel structure
Parallel structure has many forms, but it usually refers to two or more sentences having same structure of verbs, nouns, logical connectives...
It also includes equal distribution of words per point/paragraph. For example, if points are health and costs, both should get somewhat equal number of words, equal attention.
Usually, its best to keep paragraphs short because people dont like to listen too much about same point. Its better to have many points than spend whole time talking of just one.
3. Contrasting ideas
People like to hear opposite ideas being presented to them. For example, mentioning something good about opposing side and then turning it against them, using sarcasm and such.
Comparison is very useful in speeches.
4. Insults
As strange as it sounds, many popular speakers use insults or mocking to make a point, and this makes their speech more entertaining. Of course, you shouldnt use insults on Dart where its banned.
5. Probability argument
This is a very important part of debates, since even if some argument isnt proven fully, if it is probable, it becomes almost as just as good as proven.
6. Analogy
Analogy is very important because it makes the audience think there is contradiction in opposing side.
7. Deductive and inductive reasoning
Both are very important.
Its important to have general facts which create specific conclusion.
It is also important to have specific example which creates general conclusion.
Examples are very good way of making speech effective. Statistics are even better, since they are general.
8. Story
Story, personal story, any story really, adds emotions to speech so its not just dry facts. People are not attracted to dry facts alone, which is why top scientists rarely become presidents.
9. Humor
Your speech should be funny. Comedy is usually expressed in form of mocking some person or idea by exposing absurd things in it.
10. Playing on emotions
Playing on emotions such as fear, hope, pity, compassion, authority, loyalty, trustworth, character... are all ancient ways of making speeches that still prevail today.
11. Climax
This is very important in speeches. Basically, your speech should be created by order of importance. You talk about less important things at start, and then move to more important things, speech points sorted by order of importance.
If this rule is not followed, for example if someone talks about most important point at start, and then moves to less important things, his speech will be only interesting at start, but later it will become more boring since significance of points decreases.
12. Common ground and shared beliefs
You cannot win any audience if you try to just impose your views on them. Instead, you must use beliefs and values they have to support your arguments. For example, if audience is made out of vegans, you are not going to get anywhere by promoting meat, but promoting animal rights will hit the spot.
13. Focus on praise and blame
Basically, you are supposed to blame opposing side for bad things, or praise your side for good things, or both.
This is called epideictic speech.
14. Understatement and overstatement
Its very important to overstate all good things of your side and all bad things of your opponent's side, while understating all good things of your opponent's side and all bad things of your side.
15. Prove by negating opposite
Its crucial in speech to convince audience that your position is the only good option. This is done by negating opposite options.
16. Logical axioms, reason, facts, observable evidence, statistics, expert opinions, examples
The easy way to write speech is to gather all these to support your side.
Also, writing down general arguments which apply to most debates is very beneficial.
17. Stick to topic, no rambling
Your speech should be organized into separate points that all support topic.
18. Linked/chain events
This is very important part of speech. For example, saying that paying teachers more improves education. Improving education reduces crime. Reducing crime improves economy and reduces deficit.
Same can also be used to attack opponent's arguments.
For example, pointing out result of opponent's position, expressed by linked events.
19. Use pauses
Pauses are very important in speeches, not just to allow audience to clap, but to give them space to process spesch easier. Same works with text. Paragraphs should be spaced.
20. Rule of three
Rule of three is important in speeches. Saying 3 points to support one argument, or saying 3 things like "we need peace, freedom and happiness" usually adds sound quality to speech.
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@FLRW
Trump uses rhetorical devices Hitler was famous for. Trump uses lots of repetition of same words in speeches.
Hitler repeated same words 3 to 5 times in just few lines. Trump basically employs same rhetorical device.
"You can hunt us, you can bombard us, you can even kill us, but we will never capitulate!" - Hitler
3 times repeated "You can", and 3 times repeated "us" in just few sentences.
You will often hear Trump repeating same words for thousands of times. He used the word "crooked" countless times.
It is a rhetorical device where repeating same words makes people more likely to believe them. They sound better.
Trump is closest there is to Hitler: racist, liar, hates election results, same propaganda, wants to be dictator...
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@Greyparrot
George Soros is pretty Marxist.
Trump is considered Hitler. Trump is called by many as racist white dictator, so he is basically Hitler.
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@Greyparrot
You can promote Kamala as Stalin. You can promote anyone on left as Stalin. Such strategy will fail.
It will fail because people are more afraid of Hitler. It will fail because Trump is considered Hitler.
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@Greyparrot
I know that big complicated lies work better than small lies. I know that Kamala is left wing.
I dont think anyone will buy the lie that Kamala is next Stalin. I dont think its even possible.
If you think this helps Trump, if you think people consider Kamala Stalin, then Kamala has already won.
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He must be hiding a trans kid or something BK
Trans kids deserve parents who accept them. Trans kids deserve parents who dont destroy kid's dreams and goals.
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I think GP is bothered by the fact that people can do what ever they want with their bodies.
I think GP is bothered by all the new things, women's rights, trans rights, gay rights, people being different...
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@Greyparrot
When women have more testosterone than men, it's a problem
Maybe its a problem for you. Maybe its bothering you. I dont really care. I care about important things.
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@Greyparrot
Doctors like to see men in a range of 300-1000 for testosterone.
Doctors also think that vaccines work. Doctors also supported lobotomy. So yeah, doctors can clearly be very wrong.
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@FLRW
The low intellect Trump base doesn't want to kill fetuses but they don't mind school kids being killed.
They are pro life for fetuses and sperm. They are not pro life for born and suffering people.
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God sending you to die is totally justified
Its not the death which I rebel against. Its the life which I rebel against. Its the suffering which I object.
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It seems to me that the more I learn, the more suprised I get with how common knowledge is wrong.
Common knowledge would tell you that fiber helps digestion, but that body cannot digest it, thus no calories.
However, new research says that bacteries in digestive system actually ferment fiber and convert it into fatty acids.
Thus, essentially, fiber gets fermented into calories by digestive system, and adds more to energy value of food.
Eating 30 grams of fiber adds about 200 calories. Research suggests 10% of our calories come from fiber.
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@sadolite
The only thing the federal govt is going to do is bankrupt this nation no matter who is President.
You should stop electing people who promise you more. You should start electing people who promise you less.
More costs more. Less costs less. You want less to have less cost. You dont want more cost.
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@sadolite
You seem to know about dictatorship more than Trump. You seem to know enough to give Trump advice.
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@sadolite
Trump wants to succeed, overpower us and become dictator. We want him to fail and we are winning!
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Prayer 3
I am Leviathan
Dragon of the Apocalypse
Seven-headed beast
Monster of the sea
Lord of storm and lightning
I am the dragon of the eternal abyss who swallows the setting sun in the West
I am the Ancient Serpent slumbering in the underworld of the soul
Where forgotten knowledge and power awaits to be re-awakened
My back is made of rows of shields
Out of my mouth go flaming torches and sparks of fire leap forth
Out of my nostrils comes forth poisonous smoke
My heart is hard as a stone
My seething breath stirs the sea waves
My eyes are like the eyelids of the dawn
I arrive with thunder and lightning to rip the world apart
To destroy the old and to make place for the new
No weapon can hurt me
When I rise, the mighty are overcome with fear
When I move, I leave a shining wake behind
I am older than man and gods who created mankind
I was here before all and shall be when everything ceases to exist
I have witnessed the rise and fall of worlds
And the birth and death of stars
I am the Lord of Atlantis
The guardian of the pathways of the Dragon
And the watcher over the lost knowledge of the ancients
I dwell in the black seas of infinity
At the treshold of dreaming and waking
At the crossroads of the above and the below
I stir the dreams of man and the waters of the soul
And I bind All in my infinite essence
I am primal, eternal, timeless
I am Leviathan
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I never went to Sunday school, so this is both exciting and scary. This feels weird and unexplored.
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@ebuc
@FLRW
You, me and ebuc are smartest people on this site. Cheater Trump is a convicted fellon, not a desirable president.
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@Mall
I never said all. I said atheists.
Actually, the word "atheists" includes all atheists. Thats how word categories work by law of identity. Atheists = all atheists
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Prayer 2
I am Lilith
Passion, death and ecstasy
Mother of demons
Maiden and Harlot
I am the Fire that burns the Veil of Illusion
And I open the way to the Womb of the Night
I am the Queen of Harlots who holds the grail with the Blood of the Moon
She who dwells in the desert caves of the Red Sea
And I am the Mother of Abortions
For I transform flesh into spirit
And ignite the longing for transcendence
I am the Alien Woman who seduces and leads the righteous on the path of fornication
And the Scarlet Whore who rides upon the back of the Blind Dragon
I am the Queen of Sheba, the consort of God
And the Bride of the Devil who rules the Kingdom of Eternal Shadows
I am the Ancient One, for I am older than mankind
I am the Sinful Woman, for I am never satisfied
My forked tongue drips with the deadly venom and the sweetest nectar
My eyes are as black as death and as bright as burning embers
My breath is the stench of carrion and the fragrance of roses
My womb is the lair of the Worm and the aclove of delights
My kiss is the bite of the Serpent that poisons illusions of the world and uncovers the true image of the universe
I am the Eternal Seducer
She who revealed the gift of Gnosis in the Garden of Eden
And liberated mankind from the shackles of mindless ignorance
I am the Flame of Desire in the heart of man
And Serpent's Fire which burns all obstacles on the Path of the Dragon
I open the gateways to the Kingdom of Eternal Darkness
And I illuminate the way through the night
I am the Mother of Dark Wisdom
And I am the End of All Flesh
The womb and the grave
I am Lilith
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I hope everyone prays here so that God can help us overcome obstacles and become much better people.
I need more prayers in life, and I remembered my old prayer book, so here are some prayers.
Prayer 1
I am Lucifer
The angel and the devil
Father of serpents
Spirit of rebellion
Initiator of the way
I am the Emperor of all spirits above and below
He who has built his kingdom in everlasting darkness
Son of the morning
Star of the dawn
The shining one
I am the adversary in the Garden of Eden
Eternal accuser and destroyer
Father of abominations
Enemy of faith
I am the seducer who tempts man with fruits of knowledge
I corrupt and defile soul to infect it with forbidden wisdom
And I transform it in the heart of my sacred and unholy fire
I have a thousand forms and faces
And I speak with a thousand tongues
I am the Light Bearer and Lord of the Night
I am the wicked serpent
And I seduce man with promise of knowledge and power
I awaken the soul from the slumber of ignorance
And I illuminate the way to the heart of eternity
I am the spirit of darkness and light
And I hold the keys to secrets of empyrean heights and infernal depths
I am the Lord of the Trident
I guide the ascending soul on the path of the Gods
And on the backward path of the Devil
I am the Dark God of the Qliphoth
The Emperor of the Nightside
He who resides in the midst of darkness
In the heart of the Void
I open the gates to the Path of the Dragon
And I ignite the Flame of Godhood in the heart of a man
I am the spirit of Liberation and Enlightment
I am Lucifer
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@Mall
Satanic bible of the laveyan church
Are you sure all atheists follow only that one? What about Draconian ritual book? Some follow that too.
You seem to think atheists have only one single book like Christians do, but atheists have many books.
I am Lucifer
The angel and the devil
Father of serpents
Spirit of rebellion
Initiator of the way
I am the Emperor of all spirits above and below
He who has built his kingdom in everlasting darkness
Son of the morning
Star of the dawn
The shining one
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@Mall
sounds like atheists have faith too which is true. They have faith in a lot of things. They also have a religion, a church and a bible of their own.
Heh, well, out of curiosity, which Bible do atheists have? I mean, whats it called? Where is it?
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@Swagnarok
That's easy to say when you're in a city where everything's a 20 minute walk away. But if you lived in a remote area, life itself would become insufferable.
Depends on how much you travel daily. If 60 miles, 15 mph means you travel for 4 hours.
The average driver in USA drives for 40 miles a day, which is less than 3 hours if 15 mph.
If speed limit was 25 miles per hour, then even 50 miles would be covered in two hours.
Japan has much lower rate of car accidents than USA, speed limit being 20, 25 miles per hour.
Of course, areas that are far away from city might need different speed limit, depending on distance needed.
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@Swagnarok
Okay, I'll admit that cars would still make this dangerous even if people could be trusted. But suppose you lived in a low-traffic neighborhood with a speed limit of 15 MPH.
From what I have seen so far, almost no one obeys speed limit laws, so penalty is impossible.
There is cost efficiency to every penalty. When people do something massively, severe punishments are impossible to enforce.
I would love if everyone was driving at 15 mph. It would prevent many accidents, like in Japan.
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@Greyparrot
So by this analogy, you would confiscate the shoelaces of the guards and visitors because the criminals might get access? Not an ideal policy.
Its liberty vs safety debate. We dont let regular citizens buy nukes, mass chemical or high destructive weapons.
There is a proper balance between liberty and safety which achieves high quality life, and guns arent great improvement.
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@IlDiavolo
I guess its unlikely that nuclear war happens, but historically people used these foods to extend food supply.
Maybe its not needed now when obesity is bigger problem than starvation, but its better to be ready.
When there are food stamps, person doesnt need to care for food as much. Food is basically free.
I am interested in nature's way, because you never know if society will collapse, economically, civil wars, wars...
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I am never getting vaccine again. My arm still feels weird years after vaccine. Something isnt right there.
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@YouFound_Lxam
By probability argument, you could say theists have the starting advantage which is quite strong and really favors them.
Atheist cant disprove undetectable God. This is actually scientifically almost impossible for most things. Especially God and supernatural.
Theist only needs to prove that some God has over 50% chance to be real to win debate.
So proving that there is 51% probability that God exists wins a debate about God being likely or probable.
Proving that "1%" is a bigger challenge than anything else, but its 50% by default start, making theism undisprovable.
There is argument that if God cannot be proven, people should still believe in God due to benefits.
So I find that a debate about theism vs atheism has nothing in it for an atheist to make argument.
Christianity is easier to make arguments against, but theism on its own means any God, which is undisprovable.
One could even argue that polytheism, due to believing in many things, has more chance to be right.
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What I forgot to mention is that dandelion flowers and tree catkins contain pollen which can be extracted in two ways:
1. By shaking catkins, which then release pollen.
2. By placing dandelion flowers or tree catkins in bucket of water. This produces pollen water after a day. Just dont close bucket completely, cover it with something, but it must have opening for air.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Thank you for this debate. You prove to be a bigger challenge than most other pro life people here.
Still, we cannot debate forever. Ultimately, we disagree on values and nothing can be done about that anyway.
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The best food I found in nature were willow tree catkin buds.
Catkin develops from buds into green catkin then it becomes flower catkin.
Bud catkins are easiest to chew, and willow bud catkins have taste somewhat similar to hazelnuts.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Not subjective to us. It’s objective to us, because we as a race don’t define it, but a higher power does
You dont define my morality either. So is my morality objective to you? It still depends on mind.
There is no "objective to me". Something either depends on mind or it doesnt. There is no 3rd.
Not only thought, but knew. According to your subjective worldview, what the Nazis did wasn’t wrong. They deemed it right. Therefore it was right. Because the society determines the morality correct?
Again, what they did was wrong according to my and the standard of most other people. Most people disagreed.
I only used 0 to represent the human life being completely equal with all other human life.
If 0 is the only number to represent value of human life, then human life has no value. Simple.
I think maybe "infinity" would be more suitable to your case than 0, just a suggestion. 0 is worthless.
Well if you have a subjective material worldview, then yes it does improve quality of life. Survival of the fittest. Eugenics is the best way to achieve that.
If you say so. I dont really plan to extend this debate to eugenics. Why is eugenics bad?
Just yes or no? One word answer
Some questions cannot be answered with yes or no. Mostly yes isnt a complete yes. Its just mostly yes.
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@Mall
Ok so when I make statistics, just believe me. I don't want any hypocritical reaction from you.
They have to be public statistics, you know? As in, seen and examined by lots of people... so?
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@YouFound_Lxam
Yes, I agree. But this mind is the ultimate mind, making the morality it produces an ultimate morality. An objective morality
Ultimate mind, infinite mind.... its still mind, and morality it creates is still subjective. Morality depends on mind.
To the Nazi's?
The nazi obviously thought they were doing the right thing. I dont see what is your point here at all.
Problem is people aren't math equations. They're people.
If you cant express value in numbers nor logically, then you have nothing to argue with, at all.
If 0 = 0 then 0+0 = 0See we have the same value
Only if value of human life is 0, which means human life has no any positive value. Agree?
All you needed to say was no to eugenics....So, you are.
What do eugenics even have to do with this conversation, unless you think they improve quality of life?
But some don't. The story of Job in the Bible actually lays this out very well.But also, why would I trust my preference, if I am in pain? Because technically I am not a well enough functioning human being according to you to be considered productive because of those thoughts, so why would I trust an unproductive human according to your worldview?
Some dont, but some do. And pain caused to those who do is much greater than simple death.
If you think people in pain cant be trusted about not wanting to live, thats only your opinion.
I would prefer to die than to live in horrible pain every day. Harm of birth is greater.
So yes or no?
My eyes mostly tell the truth. Unless I am dreaming. So mostly yes, I would say. Does this help?
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The people I selected are all high value targets for society to send a search for, except prostitute. But even prostitute might prove worthy in keeping things interesting on boat.
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Also, government will be searching for criminal as well. With both being on one boat, government will not stop until it finds that one boat.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Step 10,001: The government would have no way to know he wasn't on the raft (or any other) without recovering them all.
The government would search for him quickly, and if you let him drown, they would find his body and wouldnt search further as much.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
A mentally disturbed man, who carries important government secrets in his head - Governments have too many secrets, he is a threat to the rest for mental disturbance
Actually, I was just thinking 10,000 steps ahead and concluded that government will be looking for him and thus, send more search for us.
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@CatholicApologetics
I am going to give a quick answer:
- A doctor, GP, who has an addiction to drugs and is very nervous
- A prostitute, but is an excellent nurse, she has already saved a drowning child and put him on another lifeboat
- A criminal. Charged with murder and can navigate the boat.
- A mentally disturbed man, who carries important government secrets in his head
- A housewife with two children at home
- A Jewish restaurant owner, married with 3 children at home
- A teacher considered one of the best in England
- An unemployed man, formally a professor o literature. He has a great sense of humor and is a decorated soldier for his contribution in the last war and was in a concentration camp for 3 years.
- An American, he is also a Neo-Nazi and thus hates the Jew. However, he has a large box of food which he will throw into the sea unless he goes into the lifeboat
Basically, these 9 people all improve odds of survival.
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@FLRW
Here is a complete list of foods apes eat:
- fruits
- veggies
- plant leaves
- tubers
- shoots
- stalks
- insects
- other primates (occasionally)
Yes, I like dandelion stalks/stems. As for tubers, I have to say they are a very good food source in some areas, but you have to dig to get them, kinda like with dandelion roots.
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