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@Greyparrot
Banana cult
Do you have a desire to eat a banana?
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@Lunatic
Looks like you wont be confirming yourself this dp either, as I am lynched the regular way.
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@Casey_Risk
Thanks for putting 4 votes on me and basically not letting Lunatic confirm himself.
These town failures are epic.
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Its actually a quite common strategy that scum sacrifices his partner to look like confirmed town. If I was scum, I would do anything to lynch my scum partner late game to confirm myself, and with 2 lynches left and 6 targets left, it makes sense my scum partner would sacrifice me to basically be confirmed and avoid being lynched himself. Its too bad that town seems to fall for it. But after missing a lynch in dp1, I guess town is going easy on scum this game.
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@Lunatic
I am just fucking with Bk here lol. Moozer should confirm his lynch soon
So you are confirmed? Well, good.
That means the last scum could be Barney, Savant, Casey, Austin, Whiteflame or joe.
6 targets, 2 lynches, 33% chance to hit.
But given what I know, the chance is probably even lower.
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@whiteflame
At least two RBs, one of which resulted in you being basically confirmed scum, but it was "role blocked or faked"? Sure. Let's go with that
Two role blockers, or one scum faking being role blocked. So yeah, with Barney lying about his role, it goes as follows:
If you and Barney are scum, it makes sense he would sacrifice you to confirm himself to win game for scum.
Also, it just so happens that if we are both trully town, how is it possibble that Earth died when there were 2 protective roles protecting him?
So either scum has 2 role blockers either you are scum.
Just kidding! You got me!
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@whiteflame
Austin is capable of picking a target who is likely town
I wouldnt be surprised if austin gets role blocked next np as well. Yeah, so far, you confirmed only 1 player, Earth, who happens to be dead because you refused to protect him.
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@Lunatic
That not only am I not the King role, I’m basically a killer.
So you cannot confirm yourself either. This just keeps getting better for town.
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@Lunatic
never reveal your affiliation til the fat lady sings!
I am aware of that rule, but town loses anyway. This just gives them some fighting chance.
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@Lunatic
Btw BK… what if I told you I was bluffing this whole time? That not only am I not the King role, I’m basically a killer.
It doesnt matter lol
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@whiteflame
Barney has already confirmed himself through the use of his role
You cannot confirm that he used his role and that mafia didnt just role blocked or faked it, but sure.
and Luna will be confirmed as soon as the DP ends.
Luna dies before next dp.
Austin will likely confirm his role during the NP
And who will he message, exactly? Who is left?
Yeah, I can see this is gonna go wrong for town, but oh well, it would have been even worse if I played right.
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If you think you have won this because you got me, trust me, you are not even close to winning this.
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Also, I find it funny that Barney totally lied about his role being very confirmable. Even if he role blocked scum, it would still be impossible to tell what actually happened, and no actual way of knowing he is a role blocker for mafia. So yeah, now you have 6 targets to choose from, which is about as bad odds as it gets.
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I guess behavioral reads do pay off. Really, if it wasnt for my behavior, I dont see how would you ever even realize that I am scum. By game logic, I was about as town as it gets. But yeah, I overplayed my cards. I should have just kept quiet and let you guys mislynch someone.
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But still, I will win this, as you guys only have 2 lynches left, so it doesnt even matter that you got me.
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Doctor was a good fake claim. I realized that my character is a doctor, and others claimed their roles, so it seemed obvious, even tho it was risky as mod said there is doctor in the game, but based on role claims, I realized there isnt.
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@Lunatic
We will lynch your buddy Joebob quick then so we can move on to the next one
Actually, my scum partner is Savant, but sure, lynch Joe lmao
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@Savant
Now you even get to be in dp3, which is cool I guess. I have to say, you played well here with what you had. Most players would be a lynch in your situation.
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@Lunatic
I am increasingly feeling confident this was the right move
Well, I guess it was, I got bored of playing anyway.
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@Greyparrot
I dont know, it depends on how much they lay, which changes over time and in colder days.
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I have to sleep now. Guys, just tell Luna to lynch Savant as soon as he comes online.
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Alright. Its confirmed. Savant and Austin are scum.
This was way easier to bait out than I expected, but whatever.
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@AustinL0926
Alright, we will lynch you after we lynch Savant and if he turns out to be scum. Does that work for you?
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@Savant
It's not a 100% chance of getting a scum today.
Its 100% chance for getting scum in next two lynches. 100% is good enough.
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@Savant
since we only have two lynches left to kill scum.
Yeah, two lynches, 4 players. Bad chances. But as I said, you or joe are scum, so using the two lynches on you two hits scum.
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@AustinL0926
I dont really need to respond to every point you make. I already told you that I dont care much about in which order we lynch. Like, it barely matters. However, casey obviously isnt a lynch, and lynching joe now would be horrible play. Lynching Savant means we either lynch scum either confirm scum.
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@Savant
Unvote
VTL Savant
So plan is simple. Joe and Savant are practically same roles which I cant imagine both being in game. So yeah, lets lynch and see.
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@Savant
What? Why would you just bandwagon whoever everyone else is voting for.
Why not?
The sooner we get 4 votes on one of you three, the better.
However, voting you and you somehow being town would expose joe as scum, so I dont see why are you against it if you think you are town.
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I will admit that Austin tunneling whiteflame in dp1 so much, and now retreating and refusing to lynch once whiteflame is getting votes on himself, I think it does give some behavioral reads. This could be a scumslip, because austin basically was completely certain that whiteflame is scum, and now goes the other way on very weak reasons.
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@whiteflame
Austin also takes out 3 combinations.
So, if you can gather 2 other votes on austin, sure, I will be 4th.
I find it a bit strange that Savant and Austin were pushing lynch on you, so you have that much.
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@Savant
Same for if anyone else is lynched and is scum, because Casey could be the other scum we don't find.
Yes, thats why I gave 3 reasons. But anyway, the combination of these 5 roles in game doesnt make any sense.
Casey is indirectly confirmed by them as town.
So its whiteflame, austin, then savant.
Thats the lynch order which we should follow.
We can change the order of a lynch, but we shouldnt do that either due to combinations..
Whiteflame takes out 3 combinations, leaving only "austin and joe" and "austin and savant". Then lynching austin takes out remaining 2 combinations, and then its savant vs joe.
I mean, this is good for you. You get to live by dp4.
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@AustinL0926
btw, not sure why I'm being lumped as a protective role.
You said that your role protects from some night actions.
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@Savant
Why though? Why assume Casey is town instead of assuming JoeBob or Austin is, for example?
Three reasons:
One: 5 protective roles doesnt make sense. Neither does 4.
Two: if casey is lynched and scum, the other scum cannot be logically found at this point. If casey turns scum, we have 50% chance to win if we lynch her now, and if casey turns town, we have less than 25% chance to win because not only do we have 1 in 4 chance after that, but another 1 in 2 chance after if we succeed hitting 1 in 4. So thats 1 in 8 chance for victory if casey turns town, about as bad chance as it can get.
Three: For some reason, Earth behaviorally read her as town. I dont know why, but to him she was obvious town.
So these 3 reasons very much mean I have to town read casey. Everyone knows I wanted to lynch casey in dp1 and I pushed for that lynch, its just that now its very risky and I dont see the point.
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@whiteflame
Let me put it this way.
If casey is scum, we most likely lose anyway, since the other scum would be hidden among 4 players (savant, austin, joe, whiteflame), maybe even more, and we dont have 4 lynches left after this dp.
But if casey is town and we lynch her, we only have 1 lynch left to find scum among 4 players.
So I am forced to think as if casey is town just to get some chance at winning.
Its not what I like to do, its just that we missed the opportunity to lynch casey.
So as crazy as it may be, I have to assume casey is town and even Earth read her as town.
That leaves those 4 players and 2 lynches left.
Those 4 players, 2 are scum. I dont think Savant and Joe can be scum.
That leaves these possibilities:
Savant and austin
Savant and whiteflame
Whiteflame and austin
Joe and whiteflame
Joe and austin
So to put it simply, your name is in 3 out of 5 possible combinations.
Lynching you takes out 3 combinations.
Its not a perfect system, but after that last dp where we should have removed casey as suspect, now I am forced to consider casey as town and really hope that she is, just because going after her is high risk low reward.
I will admit that Savant, Austin and Joe are all also possible lynches. I just dont find Joe to be a more likely scum. So if you are town, then we lynch Savant and Austin, and same if you happen to be scum.
Ideally, we should have lynched all 4. But it just so happens that we no longer have 4 lynches left, so we have to guess and hope we guessed correctly.
6 - 2
4 - 2
2 - 2
So we have 2 lynches to hit scum. If we successfully hit, then its 2 - 1 and then maybe luck will be on our side.
I am counting that mod didnt actually put 5 protective roles and 2 roleblockers in the game, and also gave scum a fake claim. If he did, we lose this anyway. I am just going to assume the logical setup of 3 protective roles and lynch 2 out of 5 protective roles. So its austin, you or savant or joebob. Its going to be a guessing work anyway, but if you turn town, then it makes sense that austin and savant, who both pushed hard to lynch you, are scum.
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@whiteflame
@Savant
I will need some time to think, but I kinda also want to rush this. Last game, we took all our time and time ran out.
So, just to put vote, which might even change in future
VTL whiteflame
I know Savant and Joe are cc, so one is scum. The question of who the other scum is, is what interests me. We could lynch Savant, or we could lynch Whiteflame. We could lynch Whiteflame, then Savant. We could lynch Savant, then Whiteflame. And depending on Austin, even he is possible lynch in dp3 since I have great doubts roleblockers will let him "confirm himself". But again, 2 roleblockers? I am not buying it.
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@Savant
then maybe the existence of multiple protective roles isn't that unlikely with this mod.
Quite the opposite.
If town actually has 5 protective roles, and some even cc each other, it means town is already at a disadvantage ripping itself apart due to unusual setup.
Add to that 2 roleblockers, and town cant even win since all basics for lynch (cc, role confirm...) are taken away by these factors, and town is even misled into lynching itself by mere setup.
So I am gonna go with that its not a likely setup at all.
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@Savant
Sadly, we cant afford to lynch casey. We could have in dp1, but now we only have 2 lynches left.
Thus, we must lynch the most logical group first.
If its you and joe, or whiteflame and austin, maybe it doesnt even matter. I cant imagine joe being scum, so naturally scum between "whiteflame and austin" is most likely.
So to put it simply, this dp and next, we can either lynch whiteflame and austin, or savant and then whiteflame and austin.
If we didnt lose a lynch, we could have afforded to lynch casey as well. Now, due to game setup, and the cc which just happened, we have like 2 lynches and 5 targets. Austin isnt a good target since he still might confirm himself, which leaves 4: casey, whiteflame, savant, joe.
I dont think Joe can be scum, but if he is, then he played great.
Casey is high risk lynch, since we dont have logical group to lynch with her, so if she turns town, we are going to be shooting blind next dp, which will be our last dp then.
So, either Savant, then joe.
Either whiteflame, then austin.
Now both groups have cc. Whiteflame has basically said that he was roleblocked. Its a cc to me at least, since I dont find 2 roleblockers likely.
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@whiteflame
Did Moozer specifically say that you were roleblocked or did he say you were unsuccessful in using it?
He didnt tell me I was role blocked. He just said that action was unsuccessful.
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@AustinL0926
Three role blockers and 5 protective roles?
Well, this is basically equal to cc.
One of you guys is scum, so I guess now we can discuss which group to lynch and in what order.
Whiteflame, then Austin?
Savant, then joe?
I am now practically convinced that there are 2 scums among 4 of you, but it could also be possible that mod trolled us this game, especially with that "21 minutes left" out of nowhere.
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But one good thing might come from age of consent laws. Apparently, its impossible to explain how circumcision of infants fits into "consent" logic.
Like really, its illegal to force an adult to get circumcised, but at the same time legal to force that same adult to get circumcised by simply circumcising him as an infant, before he becomes adult.
Yeah, good luck making sense out of that.
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I was roleblocked, so my action was unsuccesful. Couldnt protect Earth.
Well, we lost a cop and a lynch, so now I would even say our chances are greatly reduced.
We have 2 lynches remaining to hit 1 scum, and then we have 1 lynch remaining to hit final scum.
So 3 lynches left at best, and we have 4 targets, and now even austin might be unconfirmed depending on if he sent message to Earth.
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@TheUnderdog
What is your ideal age of consent? I’m just getting a poll. If Korea doesn’t respond, then it’s understandable because he would get banned if he said his honest answer.
My honest answer is that it doesnt matter what I say, even tho age of consent at 18 is a crime against nature and you are basically calling most of your ancestors idiots.
However, thanks to "educated people", we are only going to see an increase in the age of consent.
Its kinda like the unwritten law now that age of consent, once established, can only increase or stay same.
But if society wants to ruin its mental health and birth rates by introducing such a retarded law, who am I to stop them?
Its not like me arguing about it would change something. People have been brainwashed into an opinion which wont stop at mere age of consent laws.
They have actually declared that children cant make choices, which gives excuse to parents to treat children as property, which is not going to help in producing children who are smart, since to be smart, you actually have to make choices and not be reduced to mere property level which doesnt have will.
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@cristo71
So, as long as one refuses to be convinced, one can always win.
Getting the last word is kinda like win, but yeah, what you said makes no sense as a response. If you cannot win without convincing your opponent, then refusing to be convinced wont get you win if the condition for win is "convince your opponent" and not "refuse to get convinced". Complicated, I know.
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I know that people hate the idea of having rabbits, so I came up with a more complicated system.
It consists of 4 parts:
1. Berries (raspberries, different varieties)
2. Trees (walnut, hazelnut, apple)
3. Grass allowed to go to seed
4. Chickens
So the basic idea is, person needs food like fruit and eggs in order to live.
If you have a part of land where grass is not mowed, but allowed to go to seed, it will produce significant amount of grass seeds. Those grass seeds arent that great for human consumption, however, chickens will eat them.
The other part of land is for raspberries.
Raspberries, once planted, grow and spread on their own. But you have to plant different varieties because you dont want to get all which fruit in same month. You very much want to have raspberries multiple times a year. Raspberries can be eaten by chickens as well.
The third part of land is for trees. You just have to be very careful with what trees you select. Walnut trees, for example, can get very big and create lots of shade, so maybe its better to stick to hazel trees and apple trees. These trees, once planted, pretty much grow on their own. Hazelnuts can be a good food source for humans, but also they can be fed to chickens if ground.
The fourth part of land is for chickens to be located on.
So basically, the biggest part of land should probably be dedicated to producing grass seeds, and some edible greens will grow there too on their own.
The second biggest part should be dedicated to different varieties of berries.
The third part of land is used to grow trees. Now, there are cases where you can grow berries under trees on same land. Its not impossible. Trees, such as hazelnut trees or apple trees, can produce fruit for decades, and if you hate waiting for them to grow, you can buy dwarf apple varieties which live shorter but usually produce in a second year after you plant them.
The fourth, smallest part of land, is where chickens are located.
Chickens produce fertilizer, which is used to fertilize the other 3 parts of land.
Chickens are fed grass seeds, weeds and weed seeds, raspberries, apples and nuts.
Also, some slugs which are found on land can be fed to chickens.
This is a solid food system which is a bit more healthy than the old style of "feed cows grass, get milk and meat."
It is more healthy mainly because it includes fruit and nuts as well as animal products.
Besides, its a system more suitable for small piece of land. Cow requires lots of land, and having 5 or more cows and a bull would be too much milk for one person. Well, even two cows are too much milk for one person.
You could say that if chickens were replaced by cows in this system, you would need more land.
You can have like 15 to 20 chickens, which is not a lot but its enough for one person in terms of eggs.
That would require less than an acre of land in total for whole system.
However, for cows, you would likely need more than 3 acres, depending on if you have bull as well, and cows do need to be pregnant to produce milk, so you would either need bull either pay to someone who has, which is in both cases a somewhat expense.
So I would say chickens are better than cows for small land. For larger land, you might even want cows over chickens, since cows do produce milk and cows can make better use of grass. Chickens make the most use out of grass seeds, but grass itself isnt that nutritious to them.
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I mean, people are allowed to complain about things, even if they do the very things they complain about.
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Trump is even humble like Jesus, so he wears a diaper.
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Now they want to arrest our Lord Jesus(Trump) again. It all makes sense now.
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