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@JoeBob
would you be so kind as to say what it was then, because I couldn’t figure it out
I intentionally made pro-town comments, such as that concern with time at the beginning which only town has interest to worry about.
Basically, the strategy was simple:
Think about many things which are in town's interest to think about, and point them out in comments.
I thought I overplayed and tried too hard to look town, but it was good enough until game ended.
Now, I guess I also do similar when I am town, so basically just forget that you are scum and play like you are actually town.
I also used a little bit of "lets lynch someone" which I used before when I was town. So basically, remember what you did as town and play like that when scum as well.
The only difference was that I tried too hard. I actually thought they are going to scum read me, because even to me it seemed like I overplayed with the pro-town comments.
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@cristo71
They claim to believe in the US legal system, but they want to skip past the trial
No, they would give him the trial.
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I dont like death penalty. Its a bit extreme, no matter how much you think the person deserved it. I also dont think Trump deserved the death penalty.
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"North Korea has dropped at least 260 balloons carrying rubbish in the South, prompting authorities to warn its residents to stay indoors.
South Korea's military also cautioned the public against touching the white balloons and the plastic bags attached to them because they contain "filthy waste and trash"."
"The recent incident comes days after North Korea said it would retaliate against the "frequent scattering of leaflets and other rubbish" in border areas by activists in the South.
"Mounds of wastepaper and filth will soon be scattered over the border areas and the interior of the ROK and it will directly experience how much effort is required to remove them," North Korea's vice-minister of defence Kim Kang Il said in a statement to state media on Sunday."
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@Savant
Yeah, you would think that if life in South Korea was so good, people would kill themselves less there, but no. Maybe they cant handle how good their life is, so they kill themselves.
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@Savant
There are plenty of deaths in South Korea.
The current population of South Korea in 2024 is 51,741,963, a 0.08% decline from 2023. The population of South Korea in 2023 was 51,784,059, a 0.06% decline from 2022. The population of South Korea in 2022 was 51,815,810, a 0.03% decline from 2021.
Every year, the population declines more.
So not only does South Korea have highest suicide rate in the world, indicating how great their lives are, but people refuse to have children because they cant afford them.
Poor South Korea.
Well, at least the other Korea is successful in birth rates.
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@Savant
North Korea will always be the popular Korea, and probably the only Korea by 2050 since South has low birth rates but South has very high suicide rates. People are killing themselves to escape South Korea.
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For years, South Korea was sending propaganda papers to North Korea by using balloons.
North Korea warned them not to do it, yet South Korea continued to do it for years.
So North Korea responded accordingly, by sending balloons filled with trash to South Korea.
Trash for trash, they say.
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@FLRW
Russians named their best aircraft after Trump.
Su 57 felon
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I think after seeing how you guys ran away from defending your white ancestors as morally justified, your white ancestors are now looking and saying:
"Look at our people, they are running away. A shameful display."
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"The minimum sentence for falsifying business records in the first degree is zero, so Trump could receive probation or conditional discharge, a sentence of no jail or up to four years for each offense. Trump would likely be ordered to serve the prison time concurrently for each count, so up to four years, total.
"The judge could sentence him to anything between zero and the max," Horwitz said. "So he could sentence him to a period of months in jail, he could sentence him to a period of weeks in jail, he could sentence him to a sentence where he is required, for example, to go to jail every weekend for a period of time and then serve the rest of the sentence on probation.""
"The judge could sentence him to anything between zero and the max," Horwitz said. "So he could sentence him to a period of months in jail, he could sentence him to a period of weeks in jail, he could sentence him to a sentence where he is required, for example, to go to jail every weekend for a period of time and then serve the rest of the sentence on probation.""
How much will he get?
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@Sidewalker
"Vote Trump, it's not his fault".
"Vote Trump. He is a very innocent man."
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@FLRW
Trump was an unkind, disloyal man in whom “the bad far outweighs the good’”.
Yes, we already knew that, but we still gave him the fair trial because we are not Putin's Russia.
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"The only fair trial is the one where Trump comes out as innocent and not guilty." - Actual MAGA belief
Now, you can understand why are MAGA angry these days, as trial didnt match the expectations of their fantasy.
MAGA before: "He will never be found guilty"
MAGA now: "He was found guilty, but its rigged.".
So its like a child's imagination where one delusion gives birth to another.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
As if he has any cookies to give away, nobody has any cookies in communism
Its an imaginary cookie.
Parrot gets the cookie while the rest of us gain an increase in our morality.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
BK "How dare you justify GEENNNNOOOCIDE"
So you concede it was genocide?
I guess we are all making moral progress here except Greyparrot.
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@Greyparrot
I totally owned BK on the paper vs tomahawk debate.
Sure you did. Cookie for you!
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@cristo71
I was never arguing that it was morally justified in the first place
My bad. I thought you were arguing how it was morally justified for white European invaders to eradicate 99% of native Americans. But now when you say it wasnt morally justified, I guess we agree.
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@cristo71
I wouldnt know and dont care. Its just important to me that you concede that European invaders were morally unjustified to eradicate 99% of native Americans.
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@whiteflame
I dont think we can restart. Not with this theme.
I already know scum roles, theme split, I know who is cop, who is doctor, what character is what. Its pretty much unfair to restart the same.
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@whiteflame
@AustinL0926
Poor Luna. He's going to make a wallpost analyzing each player's entrances before realizing what happened
Could we delete the last posts so he thinks its actual game?
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@cristo71
you said it was irrelevant to the topic of this thread
Well, I do like when people put words in my mouth.
Can you show me where I said
"it was irrelevant to the topic of this thread"?
Go ahead, show me where I said that, because looks like I dont remember.
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@cristo71
In your post 57, you claimed (without real basis actually) that moral justification is the only relevant aspect of territory disputes. How is this so?
My post 57:
"Oh, so your argument is irrelevant to the topic of if European invaders were morally justified.
I love when people refute themselves. This was fun. Do it again sometimes."
No, I dont see where in my post does it say that.
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@cristo71
You claimed the relevance of moral justification when it comes to seizing or holding territory.
No, I dont remember claiming that moral justification is necessary to claim the land.
Can you link where I claimed that, so that I can remember?
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@Lunatic
@AustinL0926
I wouldnt really rush to put them in town pile. It encourages them to stay inactive by removing pressure from them and putting it on others.
But I think we also need to hear from Lunatic as soon as possible.
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@cristo71
Please explain how territory is defended purely via moral justification.
I dont need to, as I never even claimed that lol
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@3RU7AL
ATHEISM makes no claim at all
Yes.
Rock is atheist, as rock doesnt believe in God. Yet no one can say that rock made a claim of any kind.
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@cristo71
Once again, thank you.
I actually thought you were trying to say that European invaders were morally justified, but even you know thats not true.
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I guess we still need to hear from Lunatic. Maybe he missed the start, as he was online 6 hours ago.
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@Savant
I want to see him under some pressure. Its not like we are going to lynch him before he comes online lol
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@AustinL0926
Okay, this is rather boring and going very slow. Lets lynch someone.
I recommend Austin, just to start the fun.
VTL Austin
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@cristo71
I am glad you concede that European invaders were not morally justified, or at least that your argument which was previously mentioned doesnt make them morally justified.
Thats really all I needed to hear. Once again, thank you.
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@cristo71
I never, anywhere used the words “morally justified.”
Oh, so your argument is irrelevant to the topic of if European invaders were morally justified.
I love when people refute themselves. This was fun. Do it again sometimes.
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@cristo71
How do you propose to debunk that?
I dont need to debunk a person who thinks its morally justified to steal property just because you have a shot gun and the other guy doesnt.
I just need to point at that person so people laugh at him.
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@cristo71
even when he twists one’s words
No one twisted your words. Maybe you dont understand your own words, but thats more of a your problem.
"how IS land owned?.....
I’ve got a shotgun
And you don’t got one"
Yeah, you set a pretty clear standard.
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@whiteflame
Realistically, no one’s going to say they’re a villain
I figured it could help us later to figure out theme.
Because if theme is heroes vs villains, it means we can rule out all villains as town claims, so that only leaves heroes as town. But if some town are villains, then I guess that makes it harder to figure out whats what.
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@Greyparrot
Ukraine war barely tops 30,000 deaths per year
Thats 300,000 in 10 years, and thats just for war. Not to mention crimes such as rape and murder.
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@whiteflame
could be the obvious heroes vs. villains
I guess we can ask people to confirm if their character is a hero or a villain. They dont have to claim characters, just say if they are heroes or not.
My character is a hero.
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Well, I hope at least third of the players are familiar with the books. I never read them, nor I intend to or can in the next few days. I can use ChatGPT to tell me about characters. Thats the best I can do regarding this game. Also, scum is probably going to take out players with most knowledge first, so late game is going to be a bit difficult if almost no one is familiar with series, even if we can afford 2 mislynches.
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@Double_R
I just want you guys to focus on present and future. This focusing on distant past is really not what debating is about. I know you are just responding, but I think its bad to even respond to that.
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@3RU7AL
there is no argument required to be unconvinced
The main problem with being an atheist is having all those religious people trying to put the burden on you to disprove the existence of an invisible undetectable God.
Its the logic twisted upside down, but easy to refute because its easier to live a life by "believing in existence of something when you have proof" than "believing in existence of something without proof". The latter means you have to believe in everything, so its not a good standard.
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@ILikePie5
@Double_R
Guys, why are you talking about a debate that was 3 years ago? It was just one debate. It tells nothing about debating skills after those 3 years. So yeah, either have a new debate either stop milking the one that was so long ago.
So, are you going to have a new debate or not?
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Since there are no vanillas, it means basically any non-main character and non-confirmable role is a lynch priority as it stands, and if character doesnt fit role, then even better. Someone who knows the series well enough should give advice on character claims. I can only use google to tell me about characters, but mafia can do that too, so someone who knows these series better is needed.
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@Moozer325
This one ends at 8:00 June 3 PDT. I know the world runs on EDT, but I'm the mod, so I'm making you all have a headache trying to figure out what time It is, not me.
Well, I hope you will still inform us when there are for example, 5 hours left till end, like mods usually do.
It would be unfair if we lose because we lost track of time.
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@Greyparrot
You are free to believe that, but millions of deaths per year today and the killing of 99% of native Americans by Europeans dont exactly support your case.
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