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@DavidAZ
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DavidAZ, that is as Bible Stupid as Miss Tradesecret for the obvious reasons, and is a copy cat of your MO in posting style because he can't come up with his own style, and where he went to Miss Tradesecrets ungodly school of; "How to run away from disturbing Bible passages and to try"and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath," and does not like it when one “cherry picks” scripture that exists in the Bible in the first place, and that makes him the Bible fool,” and now has to remain silent to my posts to him to save himself from further embarrassment if he tried to address them,
Oh, oh, as we can readily see, DavidAZ is following his master of equal Bible stupidity as his, Miss Tradesecret, in being silent in not addressing his Bible stupidity in my post to him as follows: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9125/posts/387814
Therefore, in showing how Bible inept DavidAZ truly is, Jesus and I will do it without him responding to my biblical axioms, whereas he couldn't address them in the first place, as shown ad infinitum within his own thread herewith!
As shown in DavidAZ's recent posts, Jesus' inspired words and I are going to be real busy in correcting his Bible Duncery®️!
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@Path2Paradise
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Path2Paradise, who has to RUN AWAY from his despicable Islamic faith because he can’t defend it,
YOUR “RUNAWAY” QUOTE FROM YOUR PATHETIC FAITH OF ISLAM: “ ………for what you are doing right now and my case is closed to future arguments with you.”
By all means, RUN because you cannot defend your despicable faith of Islam, hurry, keep running away from your pagan faith, where I am sure your Allah god is watching you in not defending his faith where you will pay upon His Judgment Day!
ALLAH SAYS: "Fashion coats of mail and measure their links with care1 and act righteously. ‘I am watching over whatever you do.” (Qur’an 34:11)
NEXT MUSLIM FOOL THAT HAS TO RUN AWAY FROM HIS FAITH OF ISLAM LIKE “PATH2PARADISE” BECAUSE IT IS TO EMBARRASSING FOR HIM TO TRY AND DEFEND SAID FAITH, WILL BE …?
By all means, RUN because you cannot defend your despicable faith of Islam, hurry, keep running away from your pagan faith, where I am sure your Allah god is watching you in not defending his faith where you will pay upon His Judgment Day!
ALLAH SAYS: "Fashion coats of mail and measure their links with care1 and act righteously. ‘I am watching over whatever you do.” (Qur’an 34:11)
NEXT MUSLIM FOOL THAT HAS TO RUN AWAY FROM HIS FAITH OF ISLAM LIKE “PATH2PARADISE” BECAUSE IT IS TO EMBARRASSING FOR HIM TO TRY AND DEFEND SAID FAITH, WILL BE …?
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@Path2Paradise
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Path2Paradise, who has to RUN AWAY from his despicable Islamic faith because he can’t defend it,
YOUR PATHETIC QUOTE IN STANDING UP FOR YOUR SWEATY AND STINKY DESERT RAT MUHAMMAD IN SCREWING HIS 9 YEAR OLD CHILD BRIDE AISHA: “There was no delineation between neonate, toddler, adolescent, teenager, adult, etc. By the standards of the modern world, everyone's forefathers would be pedophiles. By those same standards, many people in African, Asian countries or even other Western countries in the modern day, would be considered pedophiles.”
HELLO? The problem is the desert rat Muhammed married Aisha when she was SIX YEARS OLD and was being “playful” with his LITTLE GIRL BRIDE as follows:
Narrated 'Aisha: “I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, NOT YET REACHED THE AGE OF PUBERTY. (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73)
Narrated by Aisha:
“The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to
Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got
ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother,
Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my
girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she
wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the
door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became
Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then
she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women
who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she
entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage).
Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother
handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of
age.” (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234:)
Aisha was the only virgin that Muhammad ever married. The sweaty camel rider Muhammad gave the following reason for marrying young virgin girls:
Narrated by Jabir bin ‘Abdullah: “I was accompanying the Prophet on a journey and was riding a slow camel that was lagging behind the others… When we approached Medina, I started going (towards my house). The Prophet said, "Where are you going?" I said, "I have married a widow." He said, "Why have you not married a virgin to fondle with each other?" I said, "My father died and left daughters, so I decided to marry a widow (an experienced woman) to look after them." He said, "Well done." … (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 38, number 504)
Narrated by Aisha: “that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years till his death. (Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:)
Listen up Muslim fool Path2Paradise, and understand this very revealing and simple proposition, in that YOUNG women of age 14 and beyond can have babies, but it is not advised whatsoever because of health issues at this young age, not withstanding the intellect of a girl at this young age! Whereas the sweaty camel rider diaper-headed Muhammed married an INNOCENT GIRL name Aisha when she was 6 YEARS OLD, and consummated the marriage when she was 9 YEARS OLD, therefore Muhammad was SCREWING A 9 YEAR OLD INNOCENT GIRL irrelative to having any babies as a PEDOPHILE! Therefore, Muhammed remains a PEDOPHILE no matter how you spin it!
NEXT PSEUDO-MUSLIM THAT WANTS TO BE KNOWN FOR THEIR FOUNDER OF THEIR DISGUSTING FAITH OF ISLAM, NAME MUHAMMAD, IN BEING AN OUTRIGHT PEDOPHILE OF A 6-9 YEAR OLD INNOCENT GIRL NAMED AISHA, WILL BE ...?
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@Path2Paradise
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Path2Paradise, who has to RUN AWAY from his despicable Islamic faith because he can’t defend it,
YOUR QUOTE OF NOT WANTING ME TO INSULT YOUR SWEATY CAMEL RIDING AND DIAPER HEADED MUSLIM FAITH: "First of all, do not insult the religion of Islam, we are all religious and should not insult each other's religions."
HELLO? It is "open season" to insult your primitive Islamic faith because it goes against Christianity as shown below in your Satanic Qur'an, understood Muslim fool? Huh? Maybe?
Muhammad Asad
"AND THE JEWS say, "Ezra is God's son," while the Christians say, "The Christ is God's son." Such are the sayings which they utter with their mouths, following in spirit assertions made in earlier times by people who denied the truth! [They deserve the imprecation:] "May God destroy them!" How perverted are their minds." (Qur'an 9:30)
YOUR QUOTE WHERE I AM TO LEARN THE WRITTEN "CHICKEN SCRATCHES" OF YOUR SATANIC ARABIC LANGUAGE: "Not literal words, these are the English translations, learn Arabic first Brother D. Thomas, before deciding to solely rely on English translations."
Case in point, !!!YOU LIED!!! when you presented this misinformation in your quote herewith relating that women are not to be BEATEN by honorable men which is total BS!!!: "Disciplining one’s wife gently is the final resort. The earliest commentators understood that this was to be light enough not to leave a mark, should be done with nothing bigger than a tooth stick, and should not be on the face. Prophet Muḥammad (peace be upon him) said to his companions “Do not beat the female servants of Allah.” He said that honorable husbands do not beat their wives, and he himself never hit a woman or a servant. If a woman feels her husband is ill-behaved, then she can get help from her guardian or seek divorce."
WRONG MUSLIM FOOL!
In relation to your pathetic Islamic faith, you are allowed to BEAT YOUR WIVES, whereas you gave a candy-assed interpretation of not having to BEAT your wives laughably shown above AND without citing references!
Therefore, do you want to call these entities of Abul Ala Maududi, Safi-ur-Rahman al-Mubarakpuri, and Tafsir ibn Kathir AS LIARS when these things explicitly state that you are to BEAT your wives with citation back up?! Since you read Arabic, then you can decipher the written "chicken scratches" below to support my claims!
1. Abul Ala Maududi
ٱلرِّجَالُ قَوَّٰمُونَ عَلَى ٱلنِّسَآءِ بِمَا فَضَّلَ ٱللَّهُ بَعْضَهُمْ عَلَىٰ بَعْضٍ وَبِمَآ أَنفَقُوا۟ مِنْ أَمْوَٰلِهِمْ ۚ فَٱلصَّـٰلِحَـٰتُ قَـٰنِتَـٰتٌ حَـٰفِظَـٰتٌ لِّلْغَيْبِ بِمَا حَفِظَ ٱللَّهُ ۚ وَٱلَّـٰتِى تَخَافُونَ نُشُوزَهُنَّ فَعِظُوهُنَّ وَٱهْجُرُوهُنَّ فِى ٱلْمَضَاجِعِ وَٱضْرِبُوهُنَّ ۖ فَإِنْ أَطَعْنَكُمْ فَلَا تَبْغُوا۟ عَلَيْهِنَّ سَبِيلًا ۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيًّا كَبِيرًا
“Men are the protec-tors and maintainers of women1 because Allah has made one of them excel over the other,2 and because they spend out of their possessions (to support them). Thus righteous women are obedient and guard the rights of men in their absence under Allah's protection.3 As for women of whom you fear rebellion, admonish them, and remain apart from them in beds, AND BEAT THEM. Then if they obey you, do not seek ways to harm them. Allah is Exalted, Great.” (Qur’an 4:34)
ABUL ALA MAUDUDI QUOTE: “Though these have been permitted, they are to be administered with a sense of proportion according to the nature and extent of the offence. If a mere light admonition proves effective, there is no need to resort to a severer step. As for beating, the Holy Prophet allowed it very reluctantly and even then did not like it. But the fact is that there are certain women who do not mend their ways without a beating. In such a case, the Holy Prophet has instructed that she would not be beaten on the face or cruelly, or with anything which might leave a mark on the body.”
HOW DISGUSTING CAN YOUR SATANIC ISLAMIC FAITH GET AS SHOWN ABOVE?!
2. Safi-ur-Rahman al-Mubarakpuri
اَلرِّجَالُ قَوَّامُوۡنَ عَلَى النِّسَآءِ بِمَا فَضَّلَ اللّٰهُ بَعۡضَهُمۡ عَلٰى بَعۡضٍ وَّبِمَاۤ اَنۡفَقُوۡا مِنۡ اَمۡوَالِهِمۡ ؕ فَالصّٰلِحٰتُ
قٰنِتٰتٌ حٰفِظٰتٌ لِّلۡغَيۡبِ بِمَا حَفِظَ اللّٰهُ ؕ وَالّٰتِىۡ تَخَافُوۡنَ نُشُوۡزَهُنَّ فَعِظُوۡهُنَّ وَاهۡجُرُوۡهُنَّ فِى الۡمَضَاجِعِ
وَاضۡرِبُوۡهُنَّ ۚ فَاِنۡ اَطَعۡنَكُمۡ فَلَا تَبۡغُوۡا عَلَيۡهِنَّ سَبِيۡلًا ؕاِنَّ اللّٰهَ كَانَ عَلِيًّا كَبِيۡرًا
“Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are Qanitat, and guard in the husband's absence what Allah orders them to guard. As to those women on whose part you see ill conduct, admonish them, and abandon them in their beds, AND BEAT THEM, but if they return to obedience, do not seek a means against them. Surely, Allah is Ever Most High, Most Great.” (Qur’an 4:34)
3. Tafsir ibn Kathir
اَلرِّجَالُ قَوَّامُوۡنَ عَلَى النِّسَآءِ بِمَا فَضَّلَ اللّٰهُ بَعۡضَهُمۡ عَلٰى بَعۡضٍ وَّبِمَاۤ اَنۡفَقُوۡا مِنۡ اَمۡوَالِهِمۡ ؕ فَالصّٰلِحٰتُ قٰنِتٰتٌ حٰفِظٰتٌ لِّلۡغَيۡبِ بِمَا حَفِظَ اللّٰهُ ؕ وَالّٰتِىۡ تَخَافُوۡنَ نُشُوۡزَهُنَّ فَعِظُوۡهُنَّ وَاهۡجُرُوۡهُنَّ فِى الۡمَضَاجِعِ
وَاضۡرِبُوۡهُنَّ ۚ فَاِنۡ اَطَعۡنَكُمۡ فَلَا تَبۡغُوۡا عَلَيۡهِنَّ سَبِيۡلًا ؕاِنَّ اللّٰهَ كَانَ عَلِيًّا كَبِيۡرًا
“Men are the protec-tors and maintainers of women56 because Allah has made one of them excel over the other,57 and because they spend out of their possessions (to support them). Thus righteous women are obedient and guard the rights of men in their absence under Allah's protection.58 As for women of whom you fear rebellion, admonish them, and remain apart from them in beds, AND BEAT THEM. Then if they obey you, do not seek ways to harm them. Allah is Exalted, Great.” (Qur’an 4:34)
Path2Paradise, do the following images in the links below represent when the hell bound Muslim man can beat his wife into submission relative to the Qur’an passages above?
BEAT DEFINITION: to strike repeatedly: to hit repeatedly so as to inflict pain.
Path2Paradise, we can almost hear your back “cracking” as you bend over backwards in trying to defend your despicalble faith of Islam relating to the FACT that diaper-headed Muslim men can BEAT their wives into submission as shown in the Qur'an!
NEXT MUSLIM FOOL LIKE “PATH2PARADISE” THAT SAYS MUSLIM MEN DON’T HAVE TO BEAT THEIR WIVES, WHEREAS THEIR GOD ALLAH'S INSPIRED WORDS SAYS IN THE QUR’AN WITH CITATIONS, THAT MUSLIM MEN ARE TO BEAT THEIR WIVES, WILL BE …?
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@Stephen
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Stephen,
YOUR QUOTE RELATING TO PATH2PARADISE: "he won't be doing that anytime soon, Brother D. Christians use exactly the same accusation of " misinterpretation" every time they find themselves on the backfoot."
Yes, just like the former Muslim Qur'an fool Yassine, where Jesus and I had to put that Islamic fool in his place, so be it with this additional Muslim fool Path2Paradise!
I am sure you are aware that I don't have to "interpret" the scriptures as LITERALLY WRITTEN within my JUDEO-Christian Bible because what my serial killer Jesus said once., in a literal forum, He doesn't mean for the Bible stupid pseudo-christians like Miss Tradesecret, and her cohort DavidAZ, to take in many different and contradicting ways through their Satanic rewrites of His words!
This Religion Forum is most certainly getting a lot of really Bible stupid pseudo-christians of late, where their mentality will not allow them to realize in how Bible stupid they truly are!
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@Path2Paradise
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Path2Paradise,
YOUR QUOTE WHERE YOU ARE TO SHOW THE ALLEGED "CORRECT" INTERPRETATION OF SAID PASSAGES: "all the negative viewpoints from the Quran that you have are due to ingnorant misinterpretation of the verses because of your hatred with islam."
Okay, then show the membership the "alleged" correct INTERPRETATION of said passages that are in question, and if you can't, then go into HIDING and SHAME of your sickening faith of Islam!
Here are some more despicable passages from your disgusting Qur'an for you to "try" and reinterpret away from their LITERAL words;
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1. “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.” (Qur’an 2:65-66)
2. “Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and BEAT THEM. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme." (Quran, 4:34)
3. "When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them." (Qur'an 8:12)
Path2Paradise, let us know when you want to discuss your Satanic Qur’an and the contents thereof in being written by a child molester pedophile named Muhammad since he married six year old girl named Aisha!
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@Stephen
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Stephen,
Look who is back to be made the continued Bible fool again, yes, DAVIDAZ! He had to RUN AWAY from his own thread because you and I, and others, easily made him the totally inept Bible Dunce®️, just like we do with Miss Tradesecret!
It's so laughable that he tried to “sneak in” to his thread again, as if we weren’t going to call him out on him not addressing posts to him that he left behind as he went into hiding in being so scared, just like Miss Tradesecret has had to do over the years. Reminds me of Miss Tradesecret’s MO, hmmmmm, why is that?.
We can only wonder in what “little boy lame excuses” DavidAZ will use this time to not address posts in his own thread after he RAN AWAY from them and went into hiding for TWO WEEKS? LOL!
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TO THE MEMBERSHIP, LOOK WHOS BACK, THE BIBLE STUPID RUNAWAY FOOL, DAVIDAZ!!!
DavidAZ, that is as Bible Stupid as Miss Tradesecret for the obvious reasons, and is a copy cat of your MO in posting style because he can't come up with his own style, and where he went to Miss Tradesecrets ungodly school of; "How to run away from disturbing Bible passages and to "try" and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath, and does not like it when one “cherry picks” scripture that exists in the Bible the first place, and that makes him the Bible fool,”
You just don’t learn, whereas you had the opportunity not to re-enter your embarrassing thread again where you were easily made the outright Bible fool, but what do you do? You come back to be made the further Bible Stupid fool! Why? Didn’t you have enough egg upon your face the last time where you had to RUN AWAY from your thread entitled: “Is Jesus as God good or wicked” because your comical refutations to the members post to you were unbiblical and child-like! LOL!
We see that it took you TWO WEEKS to lick your wounds from being Bible Slapped Silly®️ by myself and others, only to return for more! Now, you have some catching up to do with my following links shown below that you RAN AWAY from just like your master Miss Tradesecret does all the time!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9125/posts/383972
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9125/posts/383973
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9125/posts/383976
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9125/posts/383977
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9125/posts/383979
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9125/posts/383980
This is your thread, you created it, and yet you RAN AWAY from it in not addressing the above links of mine alone, therefore, how embarrassing can you get in front of the membership equal to Miss Tradesecrets embarrassment when she has to RUN AWAY as well?
Once you “try” and address the above links, and without coming up with some more "sophomoric little boy excuses AGAIN," then we will address THE FACT that you committed the dreadful UNPARDONABLE SIN, where your presence now in this forum is all for naught and meaningless to say the least, understood Bible fool? Yeah, you do.
NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN THAT IS TOTALLY BIBLE STUPID LIKE “DAVIDAZ” THAT HAD TO RUN AWAY FROM HIS OWN THREAD BECAUSE HE WAS MADE THE BIBLE FOOL, WILL BE …?
DavidAZ, that is as Bible Stupid as Miss Tradesecret for the obvious reasons, and is a copy cat of your MO in posting style because he can't come up with his own style, and where he went to Miss Tradesecrets ungodly school of; "How to run away from disturbing Bible passages and to "try" and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath, and does not like it when one “cherry picks” scripture that exists in the Bible the first place, and that makes him the Bible fool,”
You just don’t learn, whereas you had the opportunity not to re-enter your embarrassing thread again where you were easily made the outright Bible fool, but what do you do? You come back to be made the further Bible Stupid fool! Why? Didn’t you have enough egg upon your face the last time where you had to RUN AWAY from your thread entitled: “Is Jesus as God good or wicked” because your comical refutations to the members post to you were unbiblical and child-like! LOL!
We see that it took you TWO WEEKS to lick your wounds from being Bible Slapped Silly®️ by myself and others, only to return for more! Now, you have some catching up to do with my following links shown below that you RAN AWAY from just like your master Miss Tradesecret does all the time!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9125/posts/383972
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9125/posts/383973
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9125/posts/383976
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9125/posts/383977
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9125/posts/383979
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9125/posts/383980
This is your thread, you created it, and yet you RAN AWAY from it in not addressing the above links of mine alone, therefore, how embarrassing can you get in front of the membership equal to Miss Tradesecrets embarrassment when she has to RUN AWAY as well?
Once you “try” and address the above links, and without coming up with some more "sophomoric little boy excuses AGAIN," then we will address THE FACT that you committed the dreadful UNPARDONABLE SIN, where your presence now in this forum is all for naught and meaningless to say the least, understood Bible fool? Yeah, you do.
NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN THAT IS TOTALLY BIBLE STUPID LIKE “DAVIDAZ” THAT HAD TO RUN AWAY FROM HIS OWN THREAD BECAUSE HE WAS MADE THE BIBLE FOOL, WILL BE …?
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Best.Korea,
Uh, did you find your "Big Boy Pants" to address my post to you shown in the link below?
I have been awaiting for your timely response, where at this time, you are like Miss Tradesecret in RUNNING AWAY from Jesus' inspired godly words! You don't want to be known as a RUNAWAY like her, do you? Naw, I didn't think so.
WAITING!
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@Stephen
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Miss Tradesecret is 12 years old to date because of her birthdate in her biography and goes against the COC rules of this forum because you have to be 13 to post here: https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEJZ1IV
Miss Tradesecret’s gender is a female, therefore she is not to usurp the authority over the man, but to remain QUIET within this forum and in church. (1 Timothy 2:12) https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEGZNA4
Stephen,
Well, we're off to the races again in showing just how Bible Stupid Miss Tradesecret actually is! Jesus and I will address her latest foray into making a biblical fool of herself again as shown in the following link:
MISS TRADESECRET STEPS IN THE PROVERBIAL POO ON THE HEARSAY TOPIC RELATIVE TO TERRY AND HIS MAGIC CATI: "Previously you have merely asserted that Terry is infallible and that he listens to the Magic Cactus. Since you are telling the story, and not Terry that makes it hearsay."
Hmmmm, in the same vein, the four Gospel writers that all contradict each other, and that were not eyewitnesses to Jesus' existence because they were written 70-110 years after Jesus' crucifixion, is the true definition of HEARSAY, but the #1 Bible fool Miss Tradesecret doesn't understand this biblical axiom! LOL!
MISS TRADESECRET STEPPING IN THE PROVERBIAL POO AGAIN RELATIVE TO THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN BIBLE: "It is about 40 different authors over 4000 years telling a consistent story."
Poor Miss Tradesecret is LYING AGAIN in front of the membership, whereas the writers of the Bible being so far apart in years, DID NOT have consistent stories within the scriptures, therefore, how Bible Dumb does Miss Tradesecret want to get as shown below in a FEW OF HUNDREDS of blatant Bible inconsistencies that she says do not exist?! LOL!
Jesus says He is the only god: "There is no God else beside me ... There is none beside me." (Isaiah 45:21).
Jesus says there are other gods: "Our Lord is above all gods." (Psalm 135:5)
Jesus said not to marry: "The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage." (Luke 20:34-35)
Jesus says to marry: "He who finds a wife finds what is good and receives favor from the Lord." (Proverbs 18-22)
Wisdom makes people happy: "Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding. (Proverbs 3:13)
Wisdom makes people miserable: "For in much wisdom is much grief, and he that increaseth knowledge, increaseth sorrow. Ecclesiastes 1:18
No one has ever seen God: “No one has ever seen God. Yet, if we love one another, God remains in us, and his love is brought to perfection in us.”
Moses sees god face to face: “The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend.”
MISS TRADESECRETS QUOTE WHERE SHE HAS TO PROVIDE JESUS IN THE FLESH TO PROVE HIM AS WELL: “Same as whatever you say about Terry and the magic cactus is hearsay. that's why I said produce Terry and let him speak.”
To be true to form with her jabberwocky argument, then she should produce Jesus the Christ in the flesh to prevent herself from being guilty of what she is against, which is "hearsay!" Oh my, now embarrassing for her again!
MISS TRADESECRET FORGETS THAT CHRISTIANITY IS ALSO BASED ON FEAR: “I’m not dodging. I don't think that all religions work the same. Many work simply on fear or expectations.”
"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.” (Proverbs 1:7)
“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; all those who practice it have a good understanding. His praise endures forever!” (Psalm 111:10)
"The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man." (Ecclesiastes 12:13)
"And his mercy is for those who fear him from generation to generation." (Luke 1:50)
IN TURN, MISS TRADESECRET ADMITS THAT SHE IS THE REVEREND OF A HELL-BOUND “PRESBY” CHURCH ACCEPTING PILES OF MONEY FROM THE CHURCHES COLLECTION PLATE: “But most scientists I think are genuine and are doing what they think is best. Many others do it for the money or the prestige.”
What is so pitiful, is not only that Miss Tradesecret is leading her congregation astray because of her complete Bible Stupidity, is the FACT that they are paying for it in the “offering plate” that is passed around the congregation to help her make payments on non-church stuff!
Stephen, seriously, i think Miss Tradesecret goes out of her way to be Bible Stupid because she likes to be corrected by us and the other members, because this act of her Bible ineptness is the only thing that she is known for within this Religion Forum!
GAWD DAMN, as explicitly shown in this link alone, Miss Tradesecret has NO BOUNDS of being blatantly Bible Stupid!
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Stephen,
Miss Tradesecret is 12 years old to date because of her birthdate in her biography, and goes against the COC rules of this forum because you have to be 13 to be able to post here:
Miss Tradesecret’s gender is a female as shown in her biography, therefore she is not to usurp the authority over the man, but to remain QUIET within this forum and in church (1 Timothy 2:12).
Yes, we know that Miss Tradesecret is an outright Christian HYPOCRITE over the years of her having the nerve to post within this notable Religion Forum, where Jesus and I say that she has no business in being here in the first place, other than to make herself the continued Biblical fool!
YOUR QUOTE SHOWING MISS TRADESECRET BEING EXPLICITLY UNGODLY AND NOT A CHRISTIAN: "What was it s/he said about her/his own sexual deviance and sexual experimentation, Brother D.? Tradesecret wrote: I used various substances and I experimented sexually in a variety of ways. #50"
MISS TRADESECRET’S SEXUAL DEVIANCY:
The irony of Miss Tradesecrets disgusting sexual deviancy is that she thinks she is going to be saved by Jesus anyway as the Forgiveness Doctrine stipulates (Romans 10:13), BUT, she has forgotten about this Jesus inspired passage shown below where when she continued with her ungodly sex acts with her own family members, as shown in the top link of the two, she will NOT BE SAVED by Jesus anymore:
"For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins," (Hebrews 10:26)
Therefore, Miss Tradesecret upon her demise can look forward to the burning sulfur lakes of Hell for being a continued sexual deviant: “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,” (1 Corinthians 6:9)
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Stephen,
Miss Tradesecret is 12 years old to date because of her birthdate in her biography and goes against the COC rules of this forum:
Miss Tradesecret’s gender is a female, therefore she is not to usurp the authority over the man, but to remain QUIET within this forum and in church (1 Timothy 2:12)
MISS TRADESECRET BEING BLIND TO BIBLICAL NARRATIVES AS SHOWN WITHIN THIS RELIGION FORUM AD INFINITUM, AND THEREFORE IN LEADING THE BLIND OF HER CHURCH: “Then we spend an hour studying a bible book. At the moment in the 2 at the manse - we are looking at Ephesians and Job. Then we spend half an hour praying for each other.”
Who wouldn’t want to have to pray for each other after this meeting, especially the men praying for the 2nd class woman after reading the Ephesians passage below?
“Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-25)
Then I can see Miss Tradesecret’s blind pseudo-christians praying that this passage in the book of Job is actually wrong in saying that the earth is FLAT because of its 4 -corners!
"Under the whole heaven he lets it go, and his lightning to the corners of the earth." (Job 37:3)
MISS TRADESECRET’S QUOTE GOING AGAINST JESUS’ WORDS REGARDING WOMEN IN A CHURCH SETTING: “Throughout the week, there is a Craft Group. Ladies get together for a couple of hours and make quilts to give to people in Refuges and other organizations such as hospitals.”
What part of the following Jesus inspired passage that Miss Tradesecret doesn’t understand relating to woman in a church setting where they are to STFU!
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.” (1 Timothy 2:12)
MISS TRADESECRET SLAPPING JESUS IN THE FACE AGAIN BY NOT PERFORMING WHAT HE SAYS TO DO: “We don't do healing services. We don't have prophecy meetings. We don't do exorcisms.”
1. Miss Tradesecret doesn’t allow Healing Services? Jesus’ direct and inspired words says she is WRONG!
If any of you are sick, they should call for the elders of the church, and the elders should pray over them, anointing them with oil in the name of the Lord. Prayer that comes from faith will heal the sick, for the Lord will restore them to health. And if they have sinned, they will be forgiven.” (James 5:14-15)
2. Miss Tradesecret doesn’t allow Prophecy Meetings? Jesus’ direct and inspired words says she is WRONG!
“And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.” (Hebrews 10:24-25)
3. Miss Tradesecret doesn’t allow Exorcisms? Jesus’ direct and inspired words says she is WRONG!
“For he was saying to him, “Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!” (Mark 5:8)
“But if it is by the finger of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.” (Luke 11:20)
MISS TRADESECRET ONCE AGAIN GOING AGAINST JESUS’ TRUE TEACHINGS: “We do have a preaching group. Several young men and ladies to learn how to preach.”
Miss Tradesecret with herself being a lady, and other lady’s as shown in her misguided preaching group, ARE NOT TO PREACH BECAUSE OF THEIR 2ND CLASS FEMALE GENDER as Jesus' inspired words so state shown below!!!
"Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness.” (1 Timothy 2:11)
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.” (1 Timothy 2:12)
MISS TRADESECRET ACTUALLY FOLLOWING JESUS’ TRUE WORDS WITHIN THE BIBLE: “Apart from that - I disciple several men throughout the week.”
Good 12 year old girl Miss Tradesecret is FINALLY following Jesus’ inspired words by only discipling MEN over the 2nd class woman, as biblically shown below:
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.” (1 Timothy 2:12)
Stephen, can you see Miss Tradesecrets "Presby" church followers actually reading her misguided notions that we present to this Bible fool within this Religion Forum all the time? They would be thinking; “WTF, we have been duped by this forum’s #1 Bible stupid woman fool named Miss Tradesecret!”
But, Miss Tradesecret does provide this forum with some of the best comedy routines in being so Bible Stupid! LOL!
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Math_Enthusiast,
MISS TRADESECRET QUOTE PUTTING MY SERIAL KILLER JESUS ON TRAIL: "On the other hand, produce Terry and let's see if he has something to say for himself. He might be able to provide some more information and explanations of the Magical Cactus."
OMG! Hopefully Miss Tradesecret doesn't want Jesus to produce Himself at this time to actually PROVE Himself like she wants Terry and his magical cacti to do! This is because all Jesus has pertaining to His existence is "hearsay accountings" of Himself within the Bible, especially with the writers of the four Gospels that all contradict each other and that were not eyewitnesses because they were written 70-110 years after Jesus' crucifixion! Huh? WTF?
Notwithstanding, the alleged proof of my serial killer Jesus outside of the Bible doesn't start until we hear from Flavius Josephus who was not an eyewitness to Jesus’ existence, but only wrote a couple of terse statements about Jesus from "hearsay accountings" in his book of Antiquities. What makes Josephus’ remarks about Jesus even more concerning is the fact that He didn't mention Jesus as being God of the universe! Furthermore, Jesus died approximately in 36AD, and Josephus' birth was 33AD, and his Antiquities were written in 97AD, mentioning through "hearsay accountings" and "non eyewitness accounts," of a Jesus 64 years later! This is supposedly the proof of a Jesus? WHAT? *COUGH*
Relating to the above historical FACTS, is like Neil Armstrong landing on the moon and walking on it for the first time in the history of man, and having not a single person write about it during the time it occurred and subsequently, but only 64 years later as equal to Josephus’ writings within his Antiquities about a bible Jesus! Oh my God, will irrefutable facts ever show themselves about Jesus as the Christian God? So far, the answer is NO!
In a court of law today with the aforementioned entities in trying to prove the assumed evidence of a Jesus as God, it would be thrown out of court as inadmissible evidence because of hearsay, blatant contradictions, no eyewitnesses, and Jesus only being mentioned outside of the Bible 64 years after His crucifixion! BUT, where I am a TRUE Christian, I have learned to just accept the above disturbing facts and just move on the best way that I can. :(
Additionally, you can't present these historical facts to Miss Tradesecret because she will run away and hide from them as usual and will be nowhere to be seen because of her outright Bible stupidity and ignorance of same.
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@zedvictor4
Zed,
YOUR GODLY QUOTE: "Just like he knows what Deb is going to say before Deb says it."
Yes my serial killer Jesus as God does know what Deb is going to say: "Just like he knows what Deb is going to say before Deb says it." (Psalm 139:4)
Miss Tradesecret keeps Jesus real busy because of all the Bible Stupid things that come from her Devil Speak mouth!
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Zed,
As we have all been accustomed to in relating to the #1 Bible Fool Miss Tradesecret, she only uses her insidious "opinions" without using any bible axioms of Jesus' inspired words within the scriptures. Therefore in her befuddled thinking, she assumes she is correct at all times towards any topic with just her "questionable opinions," NOT!
MISS TRADESECRET'S QUACKY QUOTE: "I can't speak for all religions. Christianity is built upon logical reasoning. Faith without reason is mysticism. Faith requires a proper reason for it to be faith."
First thing, how can Christianity be built upon logical reasoning that she says it is, when a Christian like myself has to accept blatant contradictions within Jesus' direct and inspired words within the scriptures, like the one of many examples shown below:
YOU ARE SAVED BY WORKS AND NOT BY FAITH ALONE: “JESUS SAID: “What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone..” (James 2: 14-17)
YOU ARE SAVED BY FAITH AND NOT WORKS: “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)” (Galatians 2:15-16)
Miss Tradesecret hangs her belief in Christianity by faith being true, therefore, when she can perform moving a mountain from its existing foundation, to another area, lets say, Mount Everest, then she can truly have faith in Christianity as Jesus states in the passage below:
JESUS SAID: " He replied, 'Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.” (Matthew 17:20)
Therefore, when Miss Tradesecret has prominent News Agencies televise her moving Mount Everest from one location to another, and if she can't perform this godly notion, then her faith is null and void, as none other than Jesus the Christ so states in the passage above! Would Miss Tradesecret consider this proposition as "built upon logical reasoning" if she could't move Mount Everest? LOL!
We truly need Miss Tradesecret within this forum for comedy relief because of her outright Bible Stupidity, and in her showing what a TRUE Christian is not to be, or act like, praise Jesus!
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Stephen,
YOUR QUOTE RELATIVE TO MIRACLES IN BECOMING A CHRISTIAN: "That will take a miracle."
Well, miracles do happen, and we both hope that Miss Tradesecret gets a miracle from Jesus, as God, to not be so God-damned BIBLE STUPID as shown throughout this esteemed Religion Forum! Like you said, it is totally impossible for Miss Tradesecret to rid herself of her Bible ignorance and stupidity, whereas it is embarrassing for her to actually state that she has read the JUDEO-Christian bible many times, and in many languages, and to be so Bible Dumb in the aftermath! Poor 12 year old girl as shown on her bio birthday to today's date: https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEJZ1IV
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Stephen,
YOUR BIBLE QUOTE TOWARDS THE #1 BIBLE FOOL MISS TRADESECRET: "Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.” (Matthew 19:14)
In prayer with Jesus subsequent to you quoting Jesus' words shown above relative to Miss Tradesecret HOLDNG BACK a needed baptism for a Presbyterian child so they can go to heaven upon their demise, was perfect. Jesus hinted to me that we'll make you a TRUE Christian one day, praise!
Miss Tradesecrets biblical missteps continue to pile up within this Religion Forum as shown, where she obviously doesn't have the godly intellect to understand that she should be embarrassed in front of the membership!
Once again, Miss Tradesecret is guilty of the following Jesus as God inspired passage herewith: "Claiming to be wise, they became fools," (Romans 1:22)
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Stephen,
In prayer with Jesus last night, He confessed that Miss Tradesecret could be equal to His murderous ways at times, where since she didn't allow a parents child to be baptized at her ungodly Presbyterian Church because said child had to wait SIX WEEKS as described in my post #82 above, and if said child DIES before this time period, this child will NOT be saved as the passage below so states and is HELL-BOUND! Whereas AGAIN, Miss Tradesecret is the reason this child will not go to heaven because He was not baptized soon enough and died in waiting!
While Jesus told Nicodemus, “Amen, Amen, I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit” (John 3:5)
Listen, as if Miss Tradesecret's ADMITTED SEXUAL DEVIANCY, and her being a 2nd class woman that is not allowed to speak in the first place within this Religion Forum wasn't bad enough, then once again, she puts this innocent child in harm's way if they are to wait SIX WEEKS for their baptism and dies beforehand! BLASPHEME!
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Stephen,
Guess what? Yep, Miss Tradesecret doesn't know her bible from a wild grape again! Her Bible Duncery®️ continues at this Religion Forums expense for her just being here to begin with!
MISS TRADESECRET'S BIBLE STUPID AND IGNORANT QUOTE: "We are not in the business of making ourselves spiritual. that is God's job."
HUH? Jesus' inspired words disagrees with Miss Tradesecret AGAIN as shown below, where Christians are to make ourselves spiritual!
1. "In order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit." (Romans 8:4)
2. "God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” (John 4;24)
3. "If we live by the Spirit, let us also keep in step with the Spirit." (Galatians 5:25)
4. "I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship." Romans 12:1)
5. "The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God," (Romans 8:16)
MISS TRADESECRET'S QUOTE WHERE JESUS CREATED SCIENCE, BUT SHE DOESN'T ABOUT SCIENCE: " I identify as whatever I want and who cares about the objectivity of science."
See, "in doing what ever Miss Tradesecret wants," is the blatant reason in why she is so Bible Stupid and ignorant of same! The irony is the FACT that she doesn't care about the objectivity of SCIENCE, but it is the same SCIENCE that would keep her alive if she becomes sick! Stephen, can you spell "H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E" for what Miss Tradesecret represents in this manner? LOL!
I am sure you have become aware as I have, that Miss Tradesecret is getting more Bible stupid as times goes on as shown, and we can only assume that because she is only 12 years old, where this is the reason of her Bible Duncery®️ all the time, which is so sad. :(
Miss Tradesecret is only 12 YEARS OLD at this time as shown in this biography of hers in the link below in being born on December 31, 2010 , of which goes directly against this Religion Forums COC rules, where you have to be at least 13 years old to be here, but she cares not in following the rules! https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEJZ1IV
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@Best.Korea
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Best.Korea,
JESUS IS GOD AND SAVIOR: “Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours.” (2 Peter 1:1)
JESUS IS THE LIVING GOD: “For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.” (1 Timothy 4:10)”
JESUS INSPIRED EVERY WORD WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE: “And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God.” (1 Thessalonians 2:13)
BEST.KOREA’S TRUE QUOTE ABOUT JESUS, PRAISE!: “The Greatest Man Who Ever Walked On Earth”
YES, our serial killer Jesus as God was the greatest man that ever walked the earth, and He deserves praise for not taking any crap from His creation as the following biblical narratives show in His name and respect!
1. JESUS’ INSPIRED WORDS AS GOD SAID TO BEAT YOUR CHILDREN: ”Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou BEATEST him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt BEAT HIM with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs.23:13-14)
2. JESUS’ INSPIRED WORDS AS GOD SAID TO EAT THE FLESH OF YOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS: “And I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and their daughters, and everyone shall eat the flesh of his neighbor in the siege and in the distress, with which their enemies and those who seek their life afflict them.’ (Jeremiah 19:9)
3. JESUS’ INSPIRED WORDS AS GOD SAID YOU CAN SELL YOUR DAUGHTER INTO SLAVERY: “When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do.” (Exodus 21:7)
4. JESUS AS GOD SAID TO MURDER YOUR OFFSPRING IF THEY CURSE YOU: “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. (Matthew 15: 3-4)
5. JESUS AS GOD SAID TO HATE YOUR PARENTS: “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.” (Luke 14:26)
6. JESUS’ INSPIRED WORDS SAY THAT YOU ARE TO OBEY THE PRIESTS, OR DIE: “Anyone who acts presumptuously and does not obey the priest* who officiates there in the ministry of the LORD, your God, or the judge, shall die.”
7. JESUS’ INSPIRED WORDS SAY TO MURDER HOMOSEXUALS: ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”
8. JESUS’ INSPIRED WORDS SAID TO MURDER ANYONE THAT DOEN’ST FOLLOW CHRISTIANITY: “ And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.
9. JESUS’ INSPIRED WORDS AS GOD SAID TO KILL INNOCENT CHILDREN AND WOMAN: “Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him.
10. JESUS’ INSPIRED WORDS AS GOD SAID TO KILL INNOCENT CHILDREN AND INFANTS: “Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.”
BEST.KOREA, for the sake of brevity, I have only included a FEW OF MANY examples of our Jesus’ taking control of His creation in the brutal and bloody examples shown above, but I still question Jesus murdering innocent babies and infants. :(
Do you tell your unbelieving friends about our Jesus’ murdering modus operandi as shown above? I do, and they shake their heads and walk off saying that I worship a brutal killer God in the 21st century. Oh well, they will pay upon Judgment Day, praise Jesus' revenge upon them!
Yes, the reality is that Jesus in being a brutal serial killer as shown in this post, far accedes any Army Ranger or Navy Seal in the United States Armed Forces, where Jesus is truly a “mans man,” praise!
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Stephen,
Well, I see that you too had to biblically correct the #1 Bible Stupid fool Miss Tradesecret again regarding spirituality within the scriptures, and you are an Atheist! When will her Bible Duncery®️ ever stop so this Religion Forum won't be embarrassed that she remains here?
As usual, I have to Bible correct Miss Tradesecret as well in the following examples:
MISS TRADESECRET'S BIBLE STUPID QUOTE #1 REGARDING JESUS: "I think this passage you related to Jesus' time on earth is an excellent passage. Why, you ask?"
The passage in question, and in part, was the following: “A“Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” “Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question you know the commandments:” (Mark 10:17-18)
In the passage above, Jesus forgot that He is God to begin with (2 Peter 1:1), therefore Jesus as God, is therefore the only one “good” as Jesus stated in the passage above! Whereas Miss Tradesecret says that this passage where Jesus fumbles around in not knowing in fact that He is God and that He is the only one that is good, in the passage in question, is an excellent passage? Huh? We can only assume that Jesus was having a godly "Senior Moment" since the one God has lived for so long.
MISS TRADESECRET’S BIBLE STUPID QUOTE #2: “To gain eternal life with God, doesn't take great effort on our part. We don't have to be "good". Or prove that we are good.“
Jesus’ inspired words once again make Miss Tradesecret the complete BIBLE FOOL again in how to gain eternal life as shown below regarding her quote above and in chronological order:
1. You must be perfect:
“You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” (Matthew 5:48)
2. To be perfect like Jesus, you must give your possessions away to the poor, including all money that you have, THEN, and only THEN, you can follow Jesus:
JESUS SAID: Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” (Matthew 19:21)
JESUS SAID: Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” (Matthew 19:21)
3. When you accomplish the above Godly notions, THEN you will be given Jesus’ 1400 square mile Heaven upon your earthly demise:
JESUS SAID: “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” (Mark 10:25)
JESUS SAID: “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” (Mark 10:25)
MISS TRADESECRET SLAPPING JESUS IN THE FACE AGAIN QUOTE: “ After all, if heaven is God's home, it makes sense to be on personal terms with him.”
“IF” our Christian heaven is God’s home? WHAT? Miss Tradesecret is not sure "IF" heaven is Jesus’ home? Therefore, where else would Jesus as God be for Christs sake?! H-E-L-L-O!
After showing AGAIN in this post that Miss Tradesecret continues to be blatantly Bible Stupid, can you imagine her congregation that may not know this FACT because they have drank the “Kool Aide” of her Bible ignorance for so long, they are totally unaware in how truly biblically lame brained she is! So sad.
Satan is smiling when she passes around the offering plate to collect hard-earned money from her congregation.
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Intelligence_06,,
ADDRESSING YOUR "CANDY-ASSED WIMPY" QUOTE: "Brother D Thomas is really becoming more like Big Brother from 1984. Except that he is religious and he can't at all control what we think."
BUT, I can control in how one thinks in being blatantly BIBLE STUPID!
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@Best.Korea
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Best.Korea,
YOUR ONCE AGAIN IGNORANT QUOTE RELATIVE TO JESUS AS GOD BEING OMNISCIENT!: "No. The conditions have to be met, even when someone has all the knowledge. If I say it will happen on Friday, the condition "Friday" is obviously not met before Friday."
WRONG, you blatant Bible Ignorant and Stupid fool!!!!
Jesus being OMNISCIENT knew beforehand BEFORE any conditions had to be met in Him being against incest, you third world country buffoon!!!!
Your stupidity has no bounds, therefore Jesus and I are DONE WITH YOU where you'll pay upon Judgment Day for sure!
Referencing Matthew 4:10, BE GONE SATAN!
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@Best.Korea
Best.Korea,
Question; do you want me to Continue to make you the outright Bible Stupid and Ignorant fool in your thread as well, like I am doing in my thread relating to the 2nd class woman? If you do not respond, then Jesus' inspired words and I will Bible Slap you Silly®️ with your topic in this pathetic thread of yours understood?
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Best.Korea, the king of convoluted fish-mash,
YOUR QUOTE WHERE YOU JUST DON'T GET IT!: "No. He knew that He was going to be against incest when the conditions for such decision are met."
Huh? HELLO, anybody home today, obviously NOT! You admit that Jesus is omniscient and knew He was going to be against incest, irrelative too when the conditions were met in the first place, YOU BIBLE DOOFUS! LOL!
OMNISCIENT: “having infinite awareness, understanding, and insight, possessed of universal or complete knowledge as in the omniscient God
JESUS AS GOD BEING OMNISCIENT IN THE FOLLOWING PASSAGES:
“in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things.” (1 John 3:20)
If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything.” (1 John 3:19)
“He determines the number of the stars and calls them each by name. Great is our Lord and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit.” (Psalm 147:4-5)
“Remember the former things long past, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me, Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things which have not been done, Saying, ‘My purpose will be established, And I will accomplish all My good pleasure,” (Isaiah 46:9-10)
NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LIKE THE BIBLE IGNORANT “BEST.KOREA” THAT DOESN’T UNDERSTAND JESUS’ MO OF BEING OMNISCIENT, WILL BE …?
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@n8nrgim
n8nrgim,
YOUR QUOTE WHERE JESUS' CREATION WASN'T CREATED YET: "Is clubbing a woman and dragging her to your cave like a caveman a God approved method of picking up women?" https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9213/posts/385631
Hmmmm, since Jesus as God created man and woman in the contradicting Genesis creation narratives, AND the entire universe approximately 6000 years ago as the Bible shows us, whereas the cave man and 2nd class woman went further back into time at about 40,000 years, we can only assume that since there is only one god of creation named Jesus, then He forgot about creating man and woman in the Stone Age further back into time! Whoops-a-daisy!
Notwithstanding, Jesus REALLY forgot that He created dinosaurs 66 MILLION YEARS AGO as well. Maybe Jesus as God in heaven since He has existed at all times, and where He created EVERYTHING to begin with, had a "Senior Moment" and forgot all about His previous Stone Age Cavemen and Dinosaur creations upon earth!
"For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him." (Colossians 1:16) On a side note to this passage, why would Jesus create dinosaurs for Him as the passage denotes?
Thanks for bringing this topic to the forefront, of which will be my first question to Jesus when I pass the Pearly Gates to our glorious 1400 square mile heaven upon my earthly demise, praise!
To somewhat answer your question, in my initial post at #11, if Jesus allowed David to murder Uriah to get his beautiful wife, then I don't see a problem in clubbing the 2nd class woman in bringing her to your "Man Cave" for frolic and fun!
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@Sir.Lancelot
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Sir.Lancelot,
YOUR QUOTE RELATING TO THE BIBLE STUPID FOOL BEST.KOREA: "Bring back Troll Korea. This hashing-out will immediately get so one-sided that you massacre BrotherD."
I know this will be hard for you to accept and understand, but you as a RUNAWAY to any topic at hand, because you do not have the intellect in discussing said topic in the first place, you are in fact the RUNAWAY TROLL all the time in this respect! LOL!
At your embarrassing expense again, show us another "sideline" non response to the actual topic of this thread, ready? BEGIN:
NEXT MEMBER LIKE "SIR.LANCELOT" THAT CANNOT ENGAGE THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD, OTHER THAN TO RUN AWAY FROM IT WITH SCHOOL YARD RESPONSES, WILL BE ...?
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@hey-yo
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Hey, Hey no!
YOUR REVEALING QUOTE WHERE YOU HAVEN'T READ MY INITAL POST PERTAINING TO THE 2ND CLASS WOMAN: "How dare anyone call a woman second class. Who are you to suggest such a status? What are qualifications involved, who designates the position, and where would these women be found? What constitutes the preliminary qualifications for women to designate themselves? "
Okay, let's make this simple, get one of your children to read my initial post showing explicitly where women are 2nd class citizens relative to man being superior over them. Subsequent to your children performing this act, then get back to me to show you once again in being as Bible Stupid as Miss Tradesecret, okay? You're welcome.
NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LIKE THE BIBLE FOOL "HEY-YO" THAT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND A POST EXPLICITLY SHOWING WOMEN ARE 2ND CLASS CITIZENS PERTAINING TO THE BIBLE, WILL BE ...?
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@Best.Korea
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Best.Korea, the king of convoluted mish-mash,
YOUR UNGODLY QUOTE: "If I say that I will ban something after Friday, I will ban it after Friday. There is no change in opinion if I say I didnt ban it before Friday, since I didnt say that I will ban it before Friday."
Uh, within your child-like gobbledegook presentation you are conveniently forgetting about our serial killer Jesus of innocent babies and infants, where He is OMNISCIENT, get it Bible fool? Huh? Maybe just a "little bit?" Therefore Jesus knew beforehand in the future that He was going to be against incest, of which your obtuse rhetoric does NOT explain, accept by RUNNING AWAY from it like you've done before to my posts in other threads!
Let me know when you feel that you have been embarrassed enough within this revealing thread pertaining to the 2nd class woman okay? Jesus and I thank you in advance.
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@Stephen
Stephen,
YOUR ONCE AGAIN REVEALING AND TRUTHFUL QUOTES: "The Lord" certainly hates women, doesn't he Brother D. I have to wonder why it is that Christians love the "lord" and trip over themselves to tell us how loving he is knowing he hates their wives!?
Since I am the only TRUE Christian in this Religion Forum that accepts ALL of the JUDEO-Christian Bible, I have learned that Jesus as God despises women, as explicitly shown in my initial post, therefore them being 2nd class citizens at best. Whereas, the final nail in the coffin pertaining to women being detested, is that NO WOMEN will be in my glorious 1400 square mile heaven with its 216 feet in depth walls, praise!
YOUR QUOTE PERTAINING TO THE #1 BIBLE FOOL MISS TRADESECRET, ET AL: " I notice the usual suspects aren't here springing to the defence of "the lord" that hates their wives."
How can the outright Bible fools of mention defend Jesus' inspired biblical axioms showing that the 2nd class woman is outright inferior to the superior man?! Duh! In my initial post, I have only shown a few passages of many in showing women to be contemptible in the eyes of Jesus as god!
SIDEBAR: Here is the reason by one example of MANY of why the Book of Thomas was not included within the current Bible relating to the deplorable women's status, where this book of Thomas was also inspired by Jesus as shown!
"Simon Peter said to them: Let Mariham go out from among us, for women are not worthy of the life. Jesus said: Look, I will lead her that I may make her male, in order that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who makes herself male will enter into the kingdom of heaven." (Thomas 114). ........ Whoops-a-Daisy! ...... LOL!
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@Best.Korea
Best.Korea,
YOUR QUOTE IN JESUS AS GOD ALLOWING INCEST IN THE BEGINNING!: "The ban on incest didnt exist until God made the ban. I am not sure what confuses you in that sentence. It is irrelevant to changing opinion, since same opinion can support both banning and allowing incest under different conditions. The same opinion being the increase of life."
Therefore, with Jesus as God allowing incest first as YOU proposed, an example being with Lot and his two daughters (Genesis 19:30-38), then Jesus as God "changed His mind" from allowing incest in the beginning as YOU proposed, to not allowing incest later on as YOU proposed, as this inspired by Jesus passage so states: "Cursed be anyone who lies with his sister, whether the daughter of his father or the daughter of his mother.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen." (Deuteronomy 27:22)
Therefore, as shown in the aforementioned situation above, "Jesus as God did change His mind," and blatantly went against this inspired passage by Jesus, where He said that He doesn't change His mind: "God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that He should change his mind.. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?" (Numbers 23:19)
Therefore, how do you answer in Jesus as God being an outright HYPOCRITE shown in the above passage where He did change His mind in being against incest, where in the beginning, as YOU proposed, He wasn't!
Furthermore, Jesus as God is omniscient (1 John 3:20; Psalm 147:4-5; Isaiah 46:9-10), therefore He knew in the future that He would change His mind from allowing incest, to then not allowing incest, as shown in the scenario above! Question; why did Jesus as God allow incest in the beginning since He knew beforehand in being omniscient that He was going to be against incest in the future?
EXPLAIN THE ENTIRE SITUATION ABOVE, THE MEMBERSHIP IS WATCHING AND WAITING:
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@Stephen
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Stephen,
YOUR REVEALING QUOTE AS USUAL: “So a woman can be got from among prostitutes, spoils of war, kidnap, doing a favor, part of the bargain when buying a house, kill the husband, dead brothers wife, sack full of foreskins and a few buckets of water. Well that beats wining and dining and a taxi home I must say.“
Yes, with me being married 9 times over time, and when looking for another wife to be fruitful and multiplying many offspring with, I was especially fond of Judges 21:20-21. This is where I was hiding in a vineyard where the wine maker had a party and a band, and when the women came out to dance, I quickly rushed in and grabbed the most beautiful woman, even though she was screaming bloody murder, and took her off in my Bible Bus to the river where I was camping. Eventually I made her my wife after she finally agreed with Ephesians 5:22-24 and 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, praise!
BUT, once the ink was dry upon the marriage certificate, the women that I chose to marry started to act in the manner shown in Jesus’ inspired passages below, and therefore a divorce from said woman was in order once again.
“It is better to live in a corner of the housetop than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife.” (Proverbs 21:9)
“A continual dripping on a rainy day and a quarrelsome wife are alike;” (Proverbs 27:15)
“It is better to live in a desert land than with a quarrelsome and fretful woman.” (Proverbs 21:19)
“It is better to live in a corner of the housetop than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife.” (Proverbs 25:24)
“A quarrelsome wife is as annoying as constant dripping on a rainy day. Stopping her complaints is like trying to stop the wind or trying to hold something with greased hands.” (Proverbs 27:15-16)
. Ahhhhh, the great memories of the past!Stephen, as you are aware, it is hard for a TRUE Christian like myself in the 21st century to follow ALL, and I repeat, ALL of the inspired words of Jesus within the JUDEO-Christian Bible!
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@hey-yo
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hey-yo,
YOUR CONTINUOUS TROLL RESPONSE WHERE YOU CANNOT ADDRESS THE MAIN TOPIC OTHER THAN TO RUN AWAY AND HIDE FROM IT: " Ohhh. A troll thread."
When will you ever learn that this rewarded Religion Forum is for adults, and NOT Bible inept fools like you as a child? Take your pre-school rhetoric and just stay on the playground and play in its sandbox with your little toys, okay?
Run along now, the recess bell should be ringing shortly for you to get back into class for "finger painting" again!
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@Best.Korea
Best.Korea,
YOUR BIBLE STUPID QUOTE: "The daughters did actually use the excuse of multiplying to sleep with their father. God later banned such actions."
What the hell do you mean Jesus as God later banned INCEST?! What part of the following Jesus inspired words don't you understand?: "God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that He should change his mind.. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?" (Numbers 23:19)
Therefore Bible fool, if Jesus as God allowed Lot and his two daughters to have incestual sexual relations, then even today this sexual act can be performed with Him knowing because Jesus cannot change His mind to say otherwise, understood?
YOUR CONTINUED BIBLE IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY THAT IS EQUAL TO MISS TRADESECRETS: I wouldnt say that God says that. The adultery is forbidden. One woman cannot be married to two men at the same time, for example. So no, you cannot have sex with a woman who has sex with other man. Until that man dies, she is his wife." https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9213/posts/385549
Listen up Bible fool, in committing adultery is irrelative of a woman being married to two men, you ignoramus! Therefore, do you follow Jesus' inspired words in the following passage where you are to follow in what He said to do to the adulterous man and woman if you catch them in this ungodly act? If not, where do you get the authority to not follow Jesus' words, and do you agree that what Jesus as God wants you to do to them is just?
"If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman MUST DIE. You must purge the evil from Israel." (Deuteronomy 22:22)
Best.Korea, after answering this post, and not RUNNING AWAY like you have done with my other posts to you, and for you to save further embarrassment, STAY OUT OF MY THREADS, UNDERSTOOD BIBLE FOOL?
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Sir.Lancelot,
I am doing just fine because I am working on my soon to be 10th WIFE, praise! As I have shown in my initial post, its hard, no pun intended, to keep my wives, where my previous 9th wife couldn't walk anymore because of me following Jesus' command in being "fruitful and multiplying" all the time (Genesis 1:28) to bring more offspring towards Christianity.
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How TRUE Christian men can find a 2nd class Christian woman for their wife!
As many long-timers of they esteemed Religion Forum knows, is that I have had 9 wives over my lifetime and counting. I have had this many wives because I was just following Jesus command in being "fruitful and multiplying" offspring to be Christian soldiers for the cause (Genesis 1:28)!
But, in doing so, many of my wives life ambition was to just be able to "sit up" for the most part because I was in sexual union all the time with them in following Jesus' aforementioned command.
Here are the direct and inspired words of Jesus as God within the scriptures, in how the TRUE Christian man is to actually find a 2nd class Christian woman to take in marriage:
1. This was a hard one, no pun intended, but Jesus’ inspired words said if you cut off 200 foreskins of your future father-in-law’s enemies, you would get his daughter: “ Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king's son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife.”(1 Samuel 18:27)
2. Go and hide in a vineyard, citrus grove, apple farm, etc., where there is a party, and when the woman come out to dance, GRAB ONE and take her off to be your wife: “Go and hide in the vineyards and watch. When the young women of Shiloh come out to join in the dancing, rush from the vineyards and each of you seize one of them to be your wife." (Judges 21:20-21)
3. Find an attractive prisoner of war, bring her home, shave her head, trim her nails, and give her new clothes, and after her mourning, then she's your wife: "If you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife." (Deuteronomy 21:11-13)
4. Find a good looking prostitute, and just marry her, simple enough: "When the LORD first began speaking to Israel through Hosea, he said to him, “Go and marry a prostitute, so that some of her children will be conceived in prostitution. (Hosea 1:2)
5. Find a man with seven daughters, and impress him by watering his flock, and then he should give you one of his daughters, praise: "Now the priest of Midian had seven daughters; and they came to draw water and filled the troughs to water their father’s flock. Then the shepherds came and drove them away, but Moses stood up and helped them and watered their flock. When they came to Reuel their father, he said, “Why have you come back so soon today?” So they said, “An Egyptian delivered us from the hand of the shepherds, and what is more, he even drew the water for us and watered the flock.” He said to his daughters, “Where is he then? Why is it that you have left the man behind? Invite him to have something to eat.” Moses was willing to dwell with the man, and he gave his daughter Zipporah to Moses" (Hosea 2:16-21)
6. Purchase a piece of property, and get a woman as part of the deal, can it get better than this godly notion?: "Then said Boaz, What day thou buyest the field of the hand of Naomi, thou must buy it also of Ruth the Moabitess, the wife of the dead, to raise up the name of the dead upon his inheritance." (Ruth 4:5)
7. Have our God Jesus create a wife for you while you sleep, but this is going to cost you a rib. "The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22-23)
8. Agree to work seven years in exchange for a woman's hand in marriage, not bad of a proposition: " Then Laban said to Jacob, “Because you are my relative, should you therefore serve me for nothing? Tell me, what shall your wages be?” Now Laban had two daughters; the name of the older was Leah, and the name of the younger was Rachel. And Leah’s eyes were weak, but Rachel was beautiful of form and face. Now Jacob loved Rachel, so he said, “I will serve you seven years for your younger daughter Rachel.” Laban said, “It is better that I give her to you than to give her to another man; stay with me.” So Jacob served seven years for Rachel and they seemed to him but a few days because of his love for her.(Genesis 29:15-20)
9. Become the emperor of a huge nation and hold a beauty contest for a wife: “Let the king appoint overseers in all the provinces of his kingdom that they may gather every beautiful young virgin to the citadel of Susa, to the harem, into the custody of Hegai, the king’s eunuch, who is in charge of the women; and let their cosmetics be given them. “Then let the young lady who pleases the king be queen in place of Vashti.” And the matter pleased the king, and he did accordingly." (Esther 2:3-4)
10. When you see a woman you like, go home and tell your parents to get her for you: "Then Samson went down to Timnah and saw a woman in Timnah, one of the daughters of the Philistines. So he came back and told his father and mother, “I saw a woman in Timnah, one of the daughters of the Philistines; now therefore, get her for me as a wife.” Then his father and his mother said to him, “Is there no woman among the daughters of your relatives, or among all our people, that you go to take a wife from the uncircumcised Philistines?” But Samson said to his father, “Get her for me, for she looks good to me.” (Judges 14:1-3)
11. Kill any husband and take his wife as David set an example to do, praise: "One evening David got up from his bed and strolled around on the roof of the palace. And from the roof he saw a woman bathing—a very beautiful woman. So David sent and inquired about the woman, and he was told, “This is Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite.”.......... The next morning David wrote a letter to Joab and sent it with Uriah. In the letter he wrote: “Put Uriah at the front of the fiercest battle; then withdraw from him, so that he may be struck down and killed.” ........... "When Uriah’s wife heard that her husband was dead, she mourned for him. And when the time of mourning was over, David had her brought to his house, and she became his wife and bore him a son." (2 Samuel:2-3; 14-15; 26-27)
12. Wait for your brother to die, then take his widow: “If brothers dwell together, and one of them dies and has no son, the wife of the dead man shall not be married outside the family to a stranger. Her husband's brother shall go in to her and take her as his wife and perform the duty of a husband's brother to her." (Deuteronomy 25:5)
13. Don't be so picky in choosing the right woman, make up for quality with quantity: "King Solomon, however, loved many foreign women besides Pharaoh’s daughter—Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians and Hittites. They were from nations about which the Lord had told the Israelites, “You must not intermarry with them, because they will surely turn your hearts after their gods.” Nevertheless, Solomon held fast to them in love. He had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray." (1 Kings 11:1-3)
As all TRUE Christian men should know, is that the woman is a mere second class citizen in the eyes of Jesus within the scriptures, therefore when marrying a Christian woman, make sure she understands the following Jesus inspired passages before you tie the knot!
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)
In the passage above, when it concludes that wives are to submit themselves to their husbands, and that said husband is the head of the wife, make sure your wife understands the term "EVERYTHING" in submission to you, therefore, there are NO HEADACHES from her in not wanting sexual union with her at any given time, GET IT?
When you and your wife go to church on Saturday or Sunday, make sure SHE KEEPS HER MOUTH SHUT and is there only to be your partner in marriage, as the Jesus inspired passage says below:
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (I Corinthians 14:34-35)
Furthermore, after marriage to the 2nd class Christian woman, and if applicable, remember these JESUS INSPIRED passages shown below:
“It is better to live in a corner of the housetop than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife.” (Proverbs 21:9)
“A continual dripping on a rainy day and a quarrelsome wife are alike;” (Proverbs 27:15)
“It is better to live in a desert land than with a quarrelsome and fretful woman.” (Proverbs 21:19)
“It is better to live in a corner of the housetop than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife.” (Proverbs 25:24)
“A quarrelsome wife is as annoying as constant dripping on a rainy day. Stopping her complaints is like trying to stop the wind or trying to hold something with greased hands.” (Proverbs 27:15-16)
“It is better to live in a desert land than with a quarrelsome and fretful woman.” (Proverbs 21:19)
“It is better to live in a corner of the housetop than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife.” (Proverbs 25:24)
“A quarrelsome wife is as annoying as constant dripping on a rainy day. Stopping her complaints is like trying to stop the wind or trying to hold something with greased hands.” (Proverbs 27:15-16)
Since the man is the head of every wife (Ephesians 5:22-24), then remember this following image in this link and show it to your wife when ever she gets out of line, praise Jesus! https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEK7YJ6
Oh, one more thing that you have to take into account if your wife is not a virgin after marriage, is this godly scenario!
"But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father’s house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you." (Deut. 22:20-21)
Well, this about raps it up relative to the 2nd class woman as depicted within Jesus' inspired words within the Bible as explicitly shown in this post, and where this total information is to be used for any TRUE Christian man regarding marriage, praise Jesus!
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To the membership relating to educ's EMBARRASSING biography shown below, this person is no more a Christian than the Bible fool Miss Tradesecret!
EBUC'S COMICAL AND SATANIC BIOGRAPHY STATEMENT: "Cosmic Thinker - My avatar { Iconic profile } is 66 Lines-of-Relationship between any 12 vertexia/points/events ex 12 vertexes of both the 4-fold Cubo{6}-octa{8}hedron aka the Vector Equlibrium { 24 struts }, and, the 5-fold Icosa{20}hedron { 30 struts }. { See LINK at end of this blurb.} When spun on their respective axi, the VE has 25 great circle planes, or and associated tori and the icosahedron has 31 great circle planes, and associated tori."
HUH? What did this pseudo-christian try and say above? QUIT LAUGHING! Obviously ebuc in mentally disturbed where his soul has been inhabited by SATAN for making such a miss-mash of Devil Speak, and at the same time, wanting to call himself a Christian? NOT!
EBUC IS GUILTY OF THIS JESUS INSPIRED PASSAGE: "Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear." (Ephesians 4:29)
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Stephen,
I know you are a hell-bound Atheist, but nonetheless, can you imagine in what Jesus is thinking about the Bible fool Miss Tradesecret holding back a baptism for 6 WEEKS of parents that are Presbyterians that want their division of Christianity to baptize their child, and if said child dies in the meantime of this ungodly waiting period, they are NOT going to Heaven so saith Jesus herewith: While Jesus told Nicodemus, “Amen, Amen, I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit” (John 3:5)
Therefore, Miss Tradesecret is responsible if the Presbyterian parent's child DIES in the 6 WEEK waiting period and does not go to heaven as Jesus states in John 3:5 shown above, which is equal to Judas being responsible for my serial killer Jesus in dying upon the cross!
MISS TRADESECRET IS GUILTY OF THIS FOLLOWING JESUS INSPIRED PASSAGE: "But let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a meddler." (1Peter 4:15)
The despicable Bible fool Miss Tradesecret in also guilty in this Jesus inspired passage: "There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers." (Proverbs 6:16-19)
At what point does Miss Tradesecret throw in the towel of DEFEAT because of her outright Bible ignorance and stupidity, and as shown above, puts an innocent child in jeopardy of not going to heaven? ENOUGH!
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Stephen,
I will easily show once again that Miss Tradesecret took her Bible Stupid Pills®️ again relating to her quotes below that are once again ungodly, and this is barring her misspelling of “baptise” all the time!
MISS TRADESECRET DIRECT QUOTE SHOWING HER OUTRIGHT BIBLE STUPIDITY AGAIN!!!: "For me, it is a very serious issue. We don't baptise everyone who comes through the door. In fact, if someone rings me and says "Hey can we baptise our Bub"? I would say - that sounds excellent. Are you a member or regular attendee at church? I would point out to them that to get your child baptised is going to take a 6-week course. And you will need to come to church every week over that time. "
Since when does Jesus, as God, want you to wait 6 WEEKS before the Bible fool Miss Tradesecret's Presbyterian churches affiliation that the parents are associated with, will baptize your child? Whereas, this child in waiting to be baptized for this lengthy time period could die in the meantime and NOT Go to our 1400 square mile heaven as shown in Jesus' inspired passages below:
While Jesus told Nicodemus, “Amen, Amen, I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit” (John 3:5),
"And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name." (Acts 22:16)
"Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." (Mark 16:16)
Under these circumstances shown above, is the Bible Dunce®️ Miss Tradesecret ready to be responsible for said child to be condemned and not go to heaven if they died in this waiting period, because they were not baptized in a quick manner as the passages above so state, and because the parents wanted the affiliation of the Presbyterian Church to baptize their child? HOW UNGODLY AND UNCHRISTIAN LIKE CAN MISS TRADESECRET GET?!
MISS TRADESECRET'S QUOTE OF BEING OUTRIGHT NON CHRISTIAN: " After all, not only do you make promises but the congregation does too. It's only fair that if you want your child baptised in our church, you get to know us and find out whether you would trust us with your child."
Miss Tradesecret says its "only fair" to get to know the congregation first for 6 WEEKS before your child is saved and not going to HELL? Huh? How much "trust with your child" is needed by her church to be quickly dunked into the cold water scaring the bejesus out of your child is truly needed?
JESUS AND I ARE SERIOUS, WHEN ARE THE MODERATORS GOING TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT MISS TRADESECRET REPRESENTS WITHIN THIS ESTEEMED RELIGION FORUM ALL THE TIME, IS DANGEROUS TO OTHER CHRISTIANS BECAUSE OF HER OUTRIGHT BIBLE STUPIDITY?!
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As it is continually shown throughout Miss Tradesecret's lame child like posts of being so God Damn Bible stupid within this thread of hers, she doesn't have the sense to be embarrassed with herself and her clone DavidAZ that she had to remove for obvious reasons! Whereas I alone have had to correct her Bible Stupidity 10 times in this thread as shown herewith: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9153/posts/384035
Furthermore, I have pointed this biblical FACT out to her many times, where since she is a FEMALE, she is NOT to usurp the authority over the men within this Religion Forum, but to be SILENT while she is here, in only to agree with us men, and nothing more!
MISS TRADESECRET BEING A WOMAN: https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEGZNA4
MISS TRADESECRET GOING AGAINST THIS JESUS INSPIRED PASSAGE WITHIN THIS RELIGION FORUM SINCE SHE IS A WOMAN: “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp the authority over the man, but to be in silence.” (Timothy 2:12)
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As shown so easily, Miss Tradesecret FAILED AGAIN by bringing forth her equally Bible stupid "DavidAZ" clone because she knew that since this copied character of hers had to unfortunately be as Bible stupid as she is, he couldn't last long to begin with! LOL!
As seen, DavidAZ is gone, whoosh, no where to be found and is in hiding, just like Miss Tradesecret has to do from time to time because of her embarrassment of being the #1 Bible stupid fool of this Religion Forum.
We can only wonder in what Miss Tradesecret's next equally Bible stupid clone will be, as it goes against COC rules of this forum?
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ADreamOfLiberty,,
YOUR TROLLISH QUOTE: "So what I'm getting so far is that Jesus strikes people with thunderbolts."
If my serial killer Jesus, as God, can strike animals with thunderbolts, then he can strike the hell-bound Catholics for continuing to accept their ungodly PEDOPHILE PRIESTS! Understood?
"He gave over their cattle to the hail and their flocks to thunderbolts." (Psalm 78:48)
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You must be so proud of your Satanic Catholic Church where your ungodly PEDOPHILE PRIESTS buggered so many innocent little boys over a long period of time, where the church COVERED UP said child buggering, and all in the name of Jesus! BLASPHEME!
What you fail to understand since you are nothing but a lame pseudo-christian at best, is the FACT that you are guilty by association to your primitive Catholic Church to begin with in their PEDOPHILE PRIESTS screwing innocent little boys, where sometimes it was in the churches RECTORY which seems so apropos!
Yes, you are hiding once again as a Satanic pseudo-christian Catholic because your church is in the news again showing in the links below how your disgusting Catholic Church COVERED UP CHILD ABUSE OF YOUR PRIESTS SCREWING INNOCENT LITTLE BOYS! Therefore, double up on your money that you will be giving the "offering plate" this coming Sunday, because said money is going to payouts to many parents and boys that were literally SCREWED by your ungodly priests!
Just a few newsworthy links shown below of Catholic PEDOPHILE PRIESTS and their coverups of same:
More than 150 priests, others in Baltimore Archdiocese abused over 600 kids:
Investigation reveals widespread sexual abuse and cover-ups by Archdiocese of Baltimore:
The Baltimore Archdiocese hid dozens of child sex abuse cases:
WHO WANTS TO BE A HELL BOUND CATHOLIC IN THE 21ST CENTURY, RAISE YOU HANDS SO JESUS CAN STRIKE THEM WITH A LIGHTENING BOLT!
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@Stephen
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Stephen,
Oh, oh, what do you think happened to the equally Bible stupid DavidAZ to Miss Tradesecret's Bible Duncery®️?
The Bible fool DavidAZ has flew away from his cockoo's nest in total embarrassment, just like Miss Tradesecret has done when we easily show her to be the total and complete Bible fool that she is! Do you think that DavidAZ is now nowhere to be found in the Religion Forum because Jesus and I have shown him that he has committed the dreadful UNPARDONABLE SIN as shown in my link herewith: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9125/posts/384004
Seriously, why do the moderators continue to let these pseudo-christian fools to enter this prestigious forum to begin with in not only to embarrass themselves and Christianity, but this Religion Forum as well?
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@Sir.Lancelot
Sir Lancelot,
YOUR QUOTE THAT I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS ABOUT: "How would you like the ability to vote on religious debates? "
Unfortunately there are more outright Bible stupid pseudo-christians upon this Religion Forum than true Christians like myself that follow ALL OF JESUS' INSPIRED WORDS. Therefore, these Bible inept pseudo-christian fools vote together in mass against a debate, even if they were shown logically and biblically that said debate went against their previously preconceived stupid thoughts. Therefore, subjectively, it is better to take on these pseudo-christian fools within the Forums where Jesus and I have free reign, praise!
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@Stephen
@PREZ-HILTON
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Stephen,
MISS TRADESECRETS ADMITS WHY SHE REMAINS BIBLE DUMB: “Besides I don't read all of the comments in the thread.”
Barring the fact that she DOES READ every comment when her name is involved, then if it was true where she doesn’t, then this is why she remains the #1 Bible fool upon this Religion Forum subsequent to me correcting her Bible stupidity all the time. where she could have learned from it and not be made the fool again on said topic or statement of mine!
MISS TRADESECRETS QUOTE IN SHOWING HER BIBLE STUPIDITY AGAIN: “Forgiveness is part of the package of reconciliation. Repentance, forgiveness, recalculation. See Luke 17: 1-10. If there is no repentance, there is no forgiveness.”
WRONG again, as usual! In Miss Tradesecret “allegedly” reading the Bible many times, then she passed over the following Jesus inspired passages that explicitly say that there is no repentance needed for forgiveness!
“For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.” (Matthew 6:14-15)
“In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace,” (Ephesians 1:7)
“For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” (Romans 10:13)
“To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.” (Acts 10:43)
Barring the fact that she DOES READ every comment when her name is involved, then if it was true where she doesn’t, then this is why she remains the #1 Bible fool upon this Religion Forum subsequent to me correcting her Bible stupidity all the time. where she could have learned from it and not be made the fool again on said topic or statement of mine!
MISS TRADESECRETS QUOTE IN SHOWING HER BIBLE STUPIDITY AGAIN: “Forgiveness is part of the package of reconciliation. Repentance, forgiveness, recalculation. See Luke 17: 1-10. If there is no repentance, there is no forgiveness.”
WRONG again, as usual! In Miss Tradesecret “allegedly” reading the Bible many times, then she passed over the following Jesus inspired passages that explicitly say that there is no repentance needed for forgiveness!
“For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.” (Matthew 6:14-15)
“In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace,” (Ephesians 1:7)
“For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” (Romans 10:13)
“To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.” (Acts 10:43)
MISS TRADESECRETS UNFOUNDED QUOTE ABOUT JESUS DYING, WHEN HE REMAINED ALIVE AFTER HIS 3 DAY TOMB NAP: “I never said I don't care that Jesus died for my sins. I said I don't feel guilty about it.”
As I have explicitly shown in the following link, Jesus did not DIE and remain dead! Therefore, when Miss Tradesecret says that Jesus died for her sins, it was only for 3 days, whereas He came back to life in His resurrection, and DID NOT truly die for anyones sins, so for Miss Tradesecret to pose that untrue statement, is being a Bible dumbass.
As I have explicitly shown in the following link, Jesus did not DIE and remain dead! Therefore, when Miss Tradesecret says that Jesus died for her sins, it was only for 3 days, whereas He came back to life in His resurrection, and DID NOT truly die for anyones sins, so for Miss Tradesecret to pose that untrue statement, is being a Bible dumbass.
MISS TRADESECRETS QUOTE THAT SHE HASN’T FOLLOWED GODLY LAWS: “But does that take away the necessity of punishment? No. Offences need to be punished.”
Ask the #1 Bible stupid fool Miss Tradesecret upon this esteemed Religion Forum, where she doesn’t belong in the first place, is when was the last time she “BEAT” her kids with a hardened “rod” when they got out of line with Christian principles!
JESUS’ INSPIRED WORDS SAID: ”Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou BEATEST him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt BEAT HIM with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs.23:13-14)
MISS TRADESECRET QUOTE SLAPPING JESUS IN THE FACE AGAIN: “Jesus asks God to forgive people for their ignorance.”
H-E-L-L-O-? How can Jesus ask God to forgive people, when in biblical FACT, Jesus is God to being with (1 Peter 1:1). Therefore, Miss Tradesecret forgot to tell the members of this Religion Forum that He was “talking to Himself in quoted statement above! Shame on her, tsk, tsk, tsk.
MISS TRADESECRET AGAIN STEPPING IN THE PROVERBIAL POO QUOTE: “For believing in Jesus as John 3:16 tells us - is not just about Jesus dying for our sins, but also understanding how at the same time he takes our sins, he gives to us his righteousness.“
Ho-hum, Jesus being dead for 3 days does NOT truly constitute Him dying for our sins when He remained alive subsequent to His Resurrection, whereas if He remained DEAD forever, then that would be a TRUE Sacrifice as simply explained in my Jesus inspired following link:
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9175/posts/384394
Ho-hum, Jesus being dead for 3 days does NOT truly constitute Him dying for our sins when He remained alive subsequent to His Resurrection, whereas if He remained DEAD forever, then that would be a TRUE Sacrifice as simply explained in my Jesus inspired following link:
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9175/posts/384394
++++++++++++++++ Stephen AND the membership of this Religion Forum, when are you ever going to learn that what Miss Tradesecret says about Jesus and the inspired words within His Bible are to be taken with a MILLION POUNDS OF SALT!!! Enough of her Bible ignorance and stupidity upon this Forum! ENOUGH! +++++++++++++++++++
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@PREZ-HILTON
PREZ-HILTON,
YOUR QUOTE IN YOUR INITIAL POST REGARDING JESUS' SACRIFICE: " It's fucked up that he would be sacrificed for my sins."
In myself being the ONLY TRUE Christian within this Religion Forum, I have always had a hard time in accepting that my bloody and brutal serial killer Jesus was Sacrificed for Christians sins. This is because how can Jesus truly die as a sacrifice for our sins, if He remained alive after His 3 day tomb nap subsequent to His resurrection (John 11:25). Jesus dying for only 3 days in the tomb, and coming back to life, is an embarrassment if one wants to use the notion of "Jesus died for our Sins" because Jesus remained alive and not dead after His "tomb nap of 3 days!" GET IT?
SACRIFICE: an act of offering to a deity something precious especially the killing of a victim on an altar (OR CROSS); something offered in sacrifice
The destruction or surrender of something for the sake of something else; something given up or lost
The simple math is since Jesus did not stay dead, as in a true sacrifice shown elsewhere within the Bible, then He rationally didn’t save any Christians from their sins because He had to die forever as a TRUE Sacrifice of which He didn't! Therefore, John 3:16 is a ruse shown herewith: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16)
As somewhat embarrassing with the verse John 3:16 above, and especially since Jesus is God (2 Peter 1:1), then Jesus as God the Father gave Himself as His only son at the same time in being the Father, where Jesus as the Father is His own Son to begin with in the Trinity Doctrine!
Even if this notion of gibberish shown above doesn't seem to make logical sense, we TRUE Christians accept these embarrassing biblical anomalies within the scriptures anyway, and just move on the best way that we can.
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IN RELATION TO "GOOD FRIDAY"
In myself being the ONLY TRUE Christian within this Religion Forum, and in recognizing Good Friday, I have always had a hard time in celebrating this special Christian day. This is because how can Jesus truly die for our sins, if He remained alive after His 3 day tomb nap subsequent to His resurrection?! Dying for only 3 days in the tomb, and coming back to life, is an embarrassment if one wants to use the notion of "Jesus died for our Sins" because Jesus remained alive and not dead! GET IT?
SACRIFICE: an act of offering to a deity something precious
especially the killing of a victim on an altar (OR CROSS); something offered in sacrifice
The destruction or surrender of something for the sake of something else; something given up or lost
The simple math is since Jesus did not stay dead, as in a true sacrifice shown elsewhere within the Bible, then He rationally didn’t save any Christians from their sins because He had to die forever as a TRUE Sacrifice of which He didn't! Therefore, John 3:16 is a ruse shown herewith: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16)
As somewhat embarrassing with the verse John 3:16 above, and especially since Jesus is God (2 Peter 1:1), then Jesus as God the Father gave Himself as His only son at the same time in being the Father, where Jesus as the Father is His own Son to begin with in the Trinity Doctrine!
Even if this notion of gibberish shown above doesn't seem to make logical sense, the TRUE Christian has to accept it and not bring up this topic in discussion to save embarrassment, and just move on.
SACRIFICE: an act of offering to a deity something precious
especially the killing of a victim on an altar (OR CROSS); something offered in sacrifice
The destruction or surrender of something for the sake of something else; something given up or lost
The simple math is since Jesus did not stay dead, as in a true sacrifice shown elsewhere within the Bible, then He rationally didn’t save any Christians from their sins because He had to die forever as a TRUE Sacrifice of which He didn't! Therefore, John 3:16 is a ruse shown herewith: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16)
As somewhat embarrassing with the verse John 3:16 above, and especially since Jesus is God (2 Peter 1:1), then Jesus as God the Father gave Himself as His only son at the same time in being the Father, where Jesus as the Father is His own Son to begin with in the Trinity Doctrine!
Even if this notion of gibberish shown above doesn't seem to make logical sense, the TRUE Christian has to accept it and not bring up this topic in discussion to save embarrassment, and just move on.
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@oromagi
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oromagi,
YOUR DUMBASS QUOTE TO STEPHEN REGARDING THE TRANSGENDER PASTOR: "The only point here is that you spend your life throwing the first stone anonymously and missing the point of Christianity entirely."
As shown, you are as Bible stupid as Miss Tradesecret! Listen up Bible fool, YOU are missing the point of Christianity relative to the ungodly transgender pastor that had her "Family Jewels" cut off to make her a woman, whereas she is NOT, and I repeat, NOT to be within ANY Church of Christianity as the passage below so states at your expense:
“No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord." (Deuteronomy 23:1)
Now, if you want to make yourself the continued Bible fool in front of the membership, tell us that the passage above is in the Old Testament, and therefore is not to be followed anymore! I DARE YOU! Therefore, if you "try" and promote such unbiblical axioms, Jesus and I will Bible Slap you Silly®️ like we have had to do with the #1 Bible stupid fool Miss Tradesecret ad infinitum!
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@PREZ-HILTON
PREZ-HILTON,
YOUR UNGODLY QUOTE RELATIVE TO CHRISTIANITY: “I didn't know about the no women thing. Perhaps I should try the modem heaven with 72 virgins.”
How dare you bring forth anything relative to the Satanic religion of Islam, where its sweaty male camel riders in their 125 degree deserts will have 72 virgins upon their death, so what!
We Christians males have to look forward upon our death in walking with Jesus in His 1400 square mile heaven, day after day after day after day, where we can ask Him when in the hell is He going to have His “Second Coming” return to earth to resurrect millions of rotting bodies from their graves as shown in the passages below:
“Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.” (John 5:28-29)
" For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first." (1 Thessalonians 4:16)
Remember this very important aspect relative to Jesus 2nd Coming when you are in heaven, and DO NOT ask Him about it to embarrass Him, where the following Jesus said:
“Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28)
Damn it, as you can see, Jesus was supposed to return within the life time of the His creation that were standing in front of Him at the time, because they would not “taste death, " whatever that means, before He returned. Its been 2000 years and counting at this time and Jesus has NOT returned yet that made His promise in the passage above as a LIE! Whoops! You get the picture.
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