Casey_Risk

Going to be a bit of a hedger here. This looks, surface-level, like a bad claim. I'm not sure if it actually fits the theme considering the zero fatalities- although I suppose it's still an "accident," and the description seems more like a protective than a strengthener.

What's the point of Austin telling Moozer what the number is, but not letting him say it? Wouldn't it be better if Austin went "when you die, I will announce the total number of fatalities of every character combined."?

Wait, actually it doesn’t matter. The role activates at death, but why does Austin prohibit Moozer from saying it before death. 

Austin could’ve made it so that you have to post 25 times before saying the number. There’s no reason why he would’ve made it 25 posts and only if you die considering it’s a weak role to begin with.

Each player's role has two parts - a regular role, and a legacy role. The legacy role will activate on death if and only if that player has met an activity requirement - 25 posts in the previous day phase.

I disagree. Because it’s not broken at all, why would Austin design it in a way where he can’t claim that.

I realized after I made my post that  the total would also presumably include scum claims, not just town claims.

That’s not true though. The number will never add up to the true number as long as scum fake claim, which they likely will. If the number is 1000, there are a million ways to get there, and you don’t know who is fake claiming or not.

I don’t see the connection between no one dying and knowing the total deaths on all the flights. It’s also odd that you can’t share it because it’s not all that helpful to town. Scum can get fake claims and therefore, the numbers will probably never add up, and you wouldn’t know who is lying about their number

A couple of things that are swimming around in my head now. One, this in no way relates to the Strengthener claim at all. I'll say that my legacy role is very much interrelated with my base role.

Two, it's a pretty roundabout way to get information that almost entirely relies on getting everyone to claim their flight, adding up the numbers, subtracting out the numbers of people who die after Moozer is eliminated, and trying to see what combination of numbers from each flight make the most sense adding up to the remaining total. I could see that being useful later game, and I could see Austin running a role like this, but it's really only useful late game as the number of players goes down.

Earth doesn't strike me as a risky move maker as scum, I don't think he claims something ballsy like miller. Thats more of a wylted or a lunatic move IMO.

Go back and ready the Mafia Guide. He’d definitely do something like that lol

This is a real-game example of how I recently used WIFOM. Because I am generally regarded as a good player, more often than not when I am mafia I am investigated within the first one or two night phases. This is extremely problematic, so I have had to adjust my play-style to compensate for it. In a recent game I was the mafia redirector. Now my character wasn't a problem, since she was a good guy within the context of the theme, but my role was. Of course I couldn't out-right claim this, since it's an extremely anti-town role so I had to quickly come up with a fake claim. I decided to be bold and claimed ‘town bus-driver'. Now bus-driver is almost always a mafia role, but it isn't necessarily anti-town. It matched my character. Such a ‘scummy' role was a legitimate reason to claim early (much like the miller generally claims immediately). It wasn't going to be counter-claimed. Most importantly, when I was inevitably incriminated, it would allow me to say "last night I switched myself with x, so they must be guilty". Of course this didn't work, because there were too many elements involved and I was too late in the bandwagon to turn it around but it was good in theory. After I claimed and the brief discussion regarding my claim, attention toward me dissipated and I was able to play the game. It was convincing enough to have the mason recruiter target me and die in the process.

Ah, the old guide. You know, I don't remember which game Tvellalott claimed to be a town bus driver. I found it, but I don't know if I wrote myself any notes on it. Oh well. I'll look into it once summer break begins. It'd be nice to give summaries of games when I put together the full mafia archive.

Earth's the type to do big risk plays even when they seem unnecessary.

How confident are/were you in this, by the way? It made me squint a bit because it looks too sure, too fast.

Are you all in Euro time zones, is that why there's so much banter in the middle of the day when I expect that people would be at work...?

Moozer was online 3 hours ago, but didn’t say anything 

The pilot, for bizarre reasons, had allowed his kids to sit in the cockpit... While seated at the controls, the pilot's 15-year-old son had unknowingly partially disengaged the A310's autopilot control of the aircraft's ailerons. The autopilot then disengaged completely, causing the aircraft to roll into a steep bank and a near-vertical dive.

While we're on the subject of activity, what are people's thoughts on getting some softclaims? I don't pretend to know what the theme split will be, but the split could be between different types of incidents (e.g. specific reasons for a given crash are scum while others are town, whether the black box was recovered, where they went down) or it could be differing results of air accident investigations (e.g. known vs. unknown causes).

And this time, since we're aware of it and thinking about it, we're not going to fall for any neon blinking signs saying "YOU SHOULD LYNCH THIS PERSON" in any flips, yes?

Not an incident I'm familiar with.

If that's what happened, though, I'd have to assume she got help from her partner.

Is that stupid of me to say?

Role confirmation doesn’t mean affiliation confirmation. That said you can account for my night action literally every night. Earth confirming my visit also proves I can’t be behind the night kill or janitor that night. Also I was the only one not wanting to board the earth train. 

Lunatic is my top townread, and Earth said that lunatic visited him before Luna claimed messenger and that he visited Earth. That clears him for me anyways, but if I made a mistake, please tell me.