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Combination time traveler + unhinged rants, huh? Interesting...
Let's try this. Everybody say whether your role involves time travel or a rant. Mine is a rant.
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@ILikePie5
Yeah, honestly I was down to lynch Wylted. If Austin hadn't been quickhammered I think there's a decent chance we would have won.
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Oh yeah, and I never got to use my double vote either. There was no point in using it DP1 and the lynch happened too quickly on the following days, before I even got to vote at all
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As I said, that was a frustrating game. I had many more questions I wanted to ask and things I wanted to say DP2, but Earth got lynched too quickly. I wasn't ready for that. Then the quickhammer on DP3 and it was over for the town. I had realized that there was no way Savant and Owen could have both been telling the truth about their roles since Mharman was BP and I was also self-protective. That would make four protective roles, and that just didn't sound right to me. I was genuinely beginning to question whether Owen was town, but I wasn't able to speak my piece.
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Very frustrating game. I had much more I wanted to say on DP2 and DP3.
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Thinking about it more, I have some reservations about Savant's claim. I think it'll be clear why after I role claim.
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@Barney
@ILikePie5
Barney has been coasting all game. I want a full claim from him as well.
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@WyIted
Didn't you soft claim princess Rosalina? How is she a villain?
I am not Rosalina. My character is an actual villain.
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He brought up earth twice. Apparently savant linked to him also saying unprovoked "what's up with earth"
That's the post I was referencing. We're talking about the same thing here.
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@AustinL0926
It should be fairly easy to figure out whether Joebob's role is actually real by reading through his posts in DP1.
It looks like he only mentioned Earth the one time, in a post where he brought up how inactive he had been.
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@Cerulean
I'd love to hear a bit more about what you're thinking about here.
Gladly. Basically, there are two things that make me doubt whether that death report is genuine and untampered with. First, Beowulf is NOT a villain, at least not in the original story. He's practically a Mary Sue with the way he easily beats everyone while having no real character flaws. The antagonists of the story are Grendel, Grendel's mother, and a dragon. If anyone is aware of an adaptation of Beowulf where he is the villain, let me know, because I am not aware of such a story.
... And looking at the death report again now that I'm actually on break, I realized that I misread it. I thought JoeBob was basically just an ordinary lyncher with a scum target, which I found strange. So, there goes my second reason.
Yeah, we should probably lynch him today.
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Hold on a moment. I've been thinking, and I take back what I said. DO NOT quick hammer.
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I'll talk more on break, but I find it difficult to believe that whole role description could be fake.
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Folks, you do not need to ping me several times when I already said that I was going to be watching a movie. And for the record, Twisters was excellent. I would highly recommend it.
Anyway, I've caught up on the thread. Sorry, Mharman, I know you said last game that your mafia play is much better than your town play, but after what I've seen of you this game, I can only come to the opposite conclusion here.
VTL Mharman
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Y'know, I'm starting to see where Pie is coming from. We typically have at least one or two full claims before the end of DP1, and right now we have none. I think it would be a good idea for us to get one or two, and while I still think that Mharman is more likely town than scum, he's the only one right now where I feel like there is at least some genuine reason for sussing him. I understand why he might not want to claim if he is town (I don't want to have to fullclaim DP1 either), but we should probably be pursuing a claim from someone at least.
I'm also reluctant to put Mharman at L-1, but consider me on the wagon. I'll go back and reread the whole DP later. For now, I'm going to log off for a bit. I'm going to go see Twisters!
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@Owen_T
I know I'm being a sheep but I just don't see the point in hyper analyzing everything when everybody else is.
You don't necessarily have to give very deep analysis on everything going on, but you should share your own thoughts on the situation, even if only briefly, especially when voting for someone.
Right now, I still feel like the Pie v Mharman argument is most likely a Town v. Town fight, but reading back through it, I'm a little less convinced that's the case. At the same time, Mharman's evasiveness could just be because he has a PR and doesn't want it to be revealed. I'm fine with no full claim, but I wouldn't be against pressuring him for a character claim.
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@Savant
Maybe. I feel like his partner would probably be telling him to be less obvious though. Just a thought.
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@Savant
Owen ninja'd me by doing exactly what I just accused him of: voting along with another player. I'm townreading Mharman for this and scum reading Owen.
For literally anyone else, I'd agree that this would be a scumread. However, Owen is still a very new and inexperienced player. I feel like this sort of sheeping is to be expected.
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@Savant
Sorry, I had no internet for a few days.
Understood. You were unusually quiet there. Glad you're able to get back online now.
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@Savant
So Pie has latched on to Mharman pretty hard here. Knowing Pie, this is typical of both his town play and his mafia play, so I can't really make anything of it either way. I'm going to have to reread the discussion, but right now I feel the same way as Cerulean -- this might just be a town v. town fight. I saw one of those happen last game and it ended up losing the town the whole game.
For now, I'm going to VTL Savant for activity.
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@ILikePie5
Something like month + year the character came into existence + where it’s from (ie book, movie, game, play, etc). Still keeps the range open, but heavily restricts it as well.
I think that's reasonable. My character first appeared in a game released in 2007.
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@WyIted
I don't think that character claiming is as much of a help to the scum team as Pie suggests, as the only thing linking all our characters is some amount of villainy, but for his sake I will simply do a soft claim for now. My villain is from the greater Mario franchise, though not one of the main villains. That is, I am not Bowser, Bowser Jr., Kamek, or any of the Koopalings.
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Alright, I'd at least like to see SOME movement here. Since the sign-up page said we could choose a real or fictional villain, I say we all state whether our character is real or fictional. I'll start: my villain is fictional.
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@JoeBob
Cerulean, what do you know about mafia?
I'm pretty sure Cerulean comes from Mafia Universe, so presumably a decent amount.
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New mafia game! Let's a-go!
In UPick Mafia, we started by having everyone reveal their chosen characters. Should we do the same here?
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@JoeBob
Well, Earth had lawyered himself, so it actually would have helped put him in the clear.
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@Lunatic
Thank you! It was a lot of fun to put together and watch as well.
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@AustinL0926
@Savant
@WyIted
@JoeBob
@Owen_T
Endgame thread up!
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So, that was a really interesting game with a very anticlimactic ending. There's a reason you don't rush to a vote at MYLO/LYLO, folks. (And for the record, it was LYLO, not MYLO).
The town had some real lucky breaks that game. There was Wylted accusing Austin and basically town-confirming himself in the process, the scum team somehow not picking up on the massive hints that Luna was an investigative role, leading to Lunatic tracking Mharman and seeing that he self-visited, confirming them both, and with Savant confirming that he was the magistrate, there was only a narrow PoE of Austin, WF, and Earth, as both Savant and Mharman picked up on.
Unfortunately, Austin went for a crazy fake Dreamer claim as part of a town gambit that ended up backfiring horribly. Mharman was wrong about Austin being scum, but he was wrong for all the right reasons. Austin, please do not do that as town again.
All in all, I think the scum team played pretty well this game, though in my opinion they made some strategic errors NP1 when they (1) failed to pick up on Luna being an investigator and (2) used the Redirect early instead of saving it to use on a protective/investigative role. That's the sort of thing that a Redirector is made for, especially a one-shot Redirect like they had. Really, with so much confirmation going on, the town should have been able to pull an easy win, but there was too much infighting going on and the mafia pulled out a victory.
I was interested to see how the Justice would work in this game. Originally, I called it the "Judge", but Pie pointed out that there was already a role with that same name, so I just changed it to Justice. I think some people misunderstood how it worked -- it would tell you if two people have the same affiliation or not, but not what each player's affiliation actually is. It could be used on a confirmed player or a claimed Miller and another player to effectively be a 1x Cop, or it could be used on two suspicious players, perhaps leading to a situation where you know one is scum but you don't know for sure which, or a situation where you know they're either both scum or both town. I thought that could lead to some interesting play, but JoeBob ended up getting targeted before he could get and reveal his results, so I guess I won't know how it would have worked in this game.
All things considered, I feel like this game was pretty balanced, and I have Pie to thank for that. My original draft was definitely a bit town-sided.
BTW, the theme split was that the mafia characters come from the spinoff series The Great Ace Attorney, set in Meiji-era Japan and Victorian London, while the town players are all from the mainline Ace Attorney series, set in the 21st century.
GG everyone!
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Night Actions
NP1:
Mafia:
- Earth Lawyers himself
- Earth Redirects Savant to Whiteflame
- Whiteflame Ninja Kills JoeBob
Town:
- Mharman protects himself
- Savant pardons Lunatic (Redirected to Whiteflame)
- JoeBob investigates Savant and Earth (No Result – killed)
- Lunatic tracks Mharman (Result: Mharman visited himself)
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Mafia:
- Earth Stalks Austin
- Whiteflame Ninja Kills Lunatic
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- Lunatic tracks Whiteflame (No result – killed)
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With the mafia at parity with the town...
IT'S A MAFIA VICTORY!
Mafia:
- Whiteflame - You are Kazuma Asogi! You’re a star student at Yumei University and an all-around cool dude, though you’re a bit on the edgy side. You always carry around a katana called Karuma. You are the Ninja. If you carry out the factional Night Kill, it will be invisible to any investigative roles. You win with the Mafia.
- Moozer [Replaced by Earth before the start of the game] - You are Ryunosuke Naruhodo! You traveled to London, the capital of the British Empire, where you practiced law in the legendary Old Bailey courthouse and became the great ace attorney! You do good things… but you’re still a lawyer in the end, and you know all those lawyer jokes, right? You are the Mafia JOAT - 1x Lawyer, 1x Redirector, 1x Roleblocker, 1x Stalker, 1x Janitor. You may use one or two of your abilities on any night, but you cannot use any ability more than once. You win with the Mafia.
- Lawyer - You may target yourself or your mafia partner. The one you target will investigate as innocent for that night only
- Redirector - You may redirect any and all actions directed at one player towards another instead.
- Roleblocker - You may block a player from using any actions during the night you use this ability.
- Stalker - You may learn the character and role of any player.
- Janitor - If the player you target dies during the night you target them, only the mafia will learn their character and role.
Town:
- Mharman - You are Phoenix Wright! You are the famous bluffing defense attorney who always finds a way to win, even when all seems hopeless. You’ve saved many clients over the years, including ones who likely would have received the death penalty if found guilty. You are the 2x Doctor. Once per night, you may choose to save someone. That player cannot be killed that NP. You may only use this ability twice in total. You win with the Town.
- Savant - You are Athena Cykes! You were born with super sensitive hearing that allows you to hear the discord in people’s hearts. When you were young, a friend of yours confessed to a terrible crime, but you knew he was innocent. It’s one of the things that inspired you to become a defense attorney. You are the 1x Magistrate. Once per game, you may visit someone during the night. That player cannot be lynched the following DP. You win with the Town.
- Luna - You are Ema Skye! You were raised primarily by your older sister, a police detective. Her job caused you to become interested in forensic science from a young age. It became your dream to grow up to be a forensic investigator. You are the Tracker. Once per night, you may choose to track someone. You will learn who that player visited that night. You win with the Town.
- Wylted - You are Mia Fey, a lawyer and a mentor to Phoenix Wright! Unfortunately, you die very shortly after being introduced. Fortunately, you grew up in a clan of spirit mediums, and your younger sister and cousin channel your spirit whenever Phoenix needs help. You are the Restless Spirit. If you die, you may still vote the following DP. You may not send any messages, and you may only Unvote once. You win with the Town.
- Austin - You are Maya Fey! The younger sister of Phoenix Wright’s mentor, Mia, you become Wright’s close companion. It’s good for you that you become close friends with a defense attorney, because you get falsely accused of murder several times. Seriously, it happens a lot, to the point that it’s a meme among the fandom that you probably are guilty of some actual murder since you keep getting accused of it. You are the Odd-night Miller. You investigate as guilty on odd-numbered night phases. You win with the Town.
- Owen - You are Pearl Fey! You’re a spirit channeling prodigy, as well as being just a sweet, adorable little kid. You are the DP4 Innocent Child. If you survive to the start of DP4, your affiliation will be mod-confirmed. You win with the Town.
- JoeBob - You are the Judge! He’s never given an actual name, but everyone knows him. He’s an old geezer who can be a bit naive at times, but he always makes the right decision in the end. You are the 1x Justice. Once per game, you may choose two players to visit at night. You will learn whether the two players you investigated have the same alignment or two different alignments. You win with the Town.
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FINAL VOTE TALLY:
Austin (3/3): Wylted, Earth, Whiteflame
Austin has been lynched! Austin was... INNOCENT!
The mafia is at parity with the town. The mafia has won! Endgame thread up soon!
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@Earth
@whiteflame
@AustinL0926
@Savant
@WyIted
Site's back up!
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Let's see if this site remains up long enough for us to finish this game. If not, we can finish it on Discord.
Deceased players:
- Owen_T - Lynched DP1 - Pearl Fey - DP4 Innocent Child
- JoeBob - Killed NP1 - Judge - 1x Justice
- Mharman - Lynched DP2 - You are Phoenix Wright! You are the famous bluffing defense attorney who always finds a way to win, even when all seems hopeless. You’ve saved many clients over the years, including ones who likely would have received the death penalty if found guilty. You are the 2x Doctor. Once per night, you may choose to save someone. That player cannot be killed that NP. You may only use this ability twice in total. You win with the Town.
- Lunatic - Killed NP2 - You are Ema Skye! You were raised primarily by your older sister, a police detective. Her job caused you to become interested in forensic science from a young age. It became your dream to grow up to be a forensic investigator. You are the Tracker. Once per night, you may choose to track someone. You will learn who that player visited that night. You win with the Town
Living players:
- whiteflame
- Savant
- AustinL0926
- WyIted
- Earth
With five living players, it takes three votes to reach a majority.
"To your future career in the circus."
-- Lord Barok van Zieks
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FINAL VOTE TALLY:
Mharman (4/4): Austin, Lunatic, Earth, Whiteflame
Austin (3/4): Mharman, WyIted, Savant
Mharman has been lynched! Mharman was... INNOCENT! Submit all night actions within 24 hours.
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Votes:
Austin (3/4): Mharman, WyIted, Savant
Mharman (3/4): Austin, Lunatic, Earth
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@Mharman
Thank you Pie. And yes Mharman, in the future, please keep messages within DART. I trust that you would follow the rules of course, but Google docs can be edited and I'd have no reliable way of knowing. It's just a policy thing.
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Votes:
Austin (3/4): Mharman, WyIted, Savant
Mharman (3/4): Austin, Lunatic, Earth
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Votes:
Austin (3/4): Mharman, Savant, WyIted
Mharman (3/4): Austin, Lunatic, Earth
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