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@Mikal
What reasons were those again? Were those the circular reasons or perhaps was it you getting upset my claim was "convenient" or what? Because so far you are just getting angry at my defensiveness and acting like it's a scumtell. It isn't. Let me guess. When I get lynched and flip town, you'll say I threw.
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Okay...So Mikal is all going "IIOA! IIOA!" and yet he keeps going on about my obscure role. Thats hypocritical. Whats the point of spouting about muh analysis when you haven't played with said person in years and are obviously wrong?
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Thats literally my town meta plus a bunch of bullshit that can't be called scummy.
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@Casey_Risk
I think its not a sure thing if a GF/lawyer exists. 1x cop isn't something I would necessarily counter with a GF.
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@Casey_Risk
Survivor is a popular show. I wouldn't claim a show like that. Its my mod given character. You know, because I'm town.
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@ILikePie5
That was like a day ago bro, I just had a gut reaction to that. Casey long redeemed herself.
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Was that Mikal? Wouldn't surpise me if its fake, but I think its probably genuine.
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@Savant
Stop moving goalposts. Its horseshit you are making such a huge deal. Survivor has lile 5000 seasons after 2000, and you make a huge stink over it debuting in 2000.
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@Savant
Mafia would have left me as a mis lynch target anyway. Are you even serious?
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@Savant
I am not playing tbis game constantly under suspicion. If you FOS me because you have fan fiction of what I did, I don't know what to tell you.
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@Savant
tbh if I am the last surviving town, then town played poorly.
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@Mharman
I don't remember the name, but wasn't it in a recent game?
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@Mikal
@Savant
Yeah, that was the big reason why I debated just outting my character. I felt like if I said "2000", it would have been as good as a hard claim.
@Mikal
And what do you mean Survivor is obscure? It has like 48 seasons.
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@Mikal
If Mikal will get off my ass and stop tunneling me, I am Survivor. I am the Soldier. Survivor is a show with 48 seasons all about surviving physical and mental challenges to the end. If I am the last surviving town member, town wins automatically.
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@Mikal
If I fullclaim, would you stop deathtunneling me? Honest question.
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@Casey_Risk
Point taken with Austin. For my show however, I think the issue simply fell from the mind of town. I would have had no issue if I was part of the whole "everyone claim at once" deal, but I don't really have a reason to anymore.
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@Casey_Risk
As for Earth, I don't like how he considers Moozer being absent to be NAI, but with Austin, it's a scumtell and is going to get him lynched if he keeps it up? Huh???? Maybe he's just a townie with bad logic, but it doesn't help the case for him being town at any rate.
Moozer does seem to be a bit like me in that are like me. Maybe they are lurking scum, or maybe they struggle to find the motivation to read and post. Austin does not have that luxury. Maybe hes busy, but I think Austin knows he can pop in and say hes busy and hes trying to catch up or whatever.
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@Casey_Risk
I don't think WF having non commital reads is an issue. We are a day into DP1 and Moozer/Austin haven't posted yet. If WF continues nulling reading everyone tomorrow, then maybe we should be concerned. Otherwise its nothing.
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@Casey_Risk
I was stream of consciousnessing that post.
Savant seems to be trying to solve the game in a way that I wouldn't expect him to as to as scum. My first thought was the probability shit is probably bullshit, but he's also posting with links to posts and is otherwise putting effort in. Maybe hes scum trying to get town cred but I don't so lol.
I can also see effort on your part. You don't use probability or statistics, but you are trying to read people and you had plenty of back and forths. I think I was iffy on you at first, but you come around.
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Alright. Hey Pie, I finally got some reads.
Savant and Casey are hard town for me. Banana is slightly less town for me, but still pretty town. For my null reads, its something like Pie > Mikal > Wylted = WF. I don't appreciate Mikal death tunneling me. I think its pretty stupid and his logic doesn't really pan out. But, granted, I am town so maybe I am biased. WF does similar things, even in games where I am town. Pie is playing as he usually does, but he is a touch inactive compared to his usual. WF hasn't done much yet and I almost forgot Wylted was playing. Austin and Moozer haven't posted yet, NAI for Moozer. I get Austin might be busy, but I definitely think we should get input from him. I'm obviously not going to suggest we lynch myself, so maybe if Austin will be the lynch if he continues as he is.
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I suppose I'll reread the past few pages and draft up some reads too I guess.
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@Casey_Risk
Why does everyone seem to misinterpret my jokes? That was clearly tongue in cheek.
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@Mikal
How dare you? I think my scum play I had when I was last scum 10 games ago was fine. If you want my claim, just say so. Were you tunneling this hard last game?
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@Savant
Sounds good. I suggest we go with Earth's plan and ask WF to give his full claim at the same time Moozer and Austin give their shows.
Uh, when did I suggest that?
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I feel like we can at least confirm a few people by doing what Savant suggested. Its a pretty good idea. I get the coordination is an issue, but like, can we try?
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@WyIted
You know, I don't know much about it, but there are multiple seasons. I'm debating just outting my show lol.
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@ILikePie5
@Pie
Really? You want me to post my reads practically every time I post?
My show is after 2000.
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@Mharman
Okay, well an extra night kill is irrelevant then. Assuming we lynch correctly, there will be 4 town and 1 mafia, and if they get two night kills its 2 town to the 1 mafia. So I don't really care.
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I am bouncing back and forth on who I should vote for, but I will steel myself and vote for Cerulean.
VTL Cerulean
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@Mharman
I think I was given lesser information NP1 bc I’m supposed to be incentivized to stay alive and get more information.
If my current theory about Moozer is correct, there could also be a negative utility /bait aspect, where if I reveal my NP1 information, it helps scum figure out how to get that extra NK, before I get warned that they have said capabilities in NP2.I base this on the idea that I was told scum doesn’t know their method, not that they don’t know they can get an extra night kill.
You might have already answered, but Pie said mafia get an extra night kill, not just a kill in general?
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I wonder whats the point of an Informed if it doesn't tell you the nature of this hidden aspect.
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At first, Banana should be a really easy scumread for me, especially after reporting that I visited Lunatic, I did not. However the idea that there is a redirector and confirmation that redirector can affect me kinda makes me feel like there is a chance that Banana is town and Mafia is relatively busted. I wonder who her partner is though, because she has been rather lax and there is a nagging feeling that mafia is actually Mhar and Cerulean.
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@Cerulean
I don't remember any hidden aspects, but you can also just look back at old Pie Endgames. Its what I am about to do. Pie likes negative utility roles though.
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@whiteflame
Revnov was raised during a time of hardship and war. Revnov trusted Dragovich, Kravchenko and Steiner (my PM name drops Steiner FWIW). However they betrayed me and threw me in prison. This did not break my spirits because I later became a leader in prison. Encouraging men with nothing left, and meeting Mason, I staged an uprising. While fighting through the prison, I was killed, but I live on in Mason's mind. My hate and lust for revenge for those that betrayed me live on in Mason's mind and he fought Drago, Kravchenko and Steiner for me.
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I asked Pie if my role can be affected by a redirector and he said yes.
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@whiteflame
I'm confused on the potential effects a redirector could have on my role. I still think it is odd that there is a cop, a fancy MD and a 1x watcher/tracker, but it does make me think.
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@Mharman
Hey man, if you want to go after Cerulean don't let me stop you lmao.
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