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Elminster

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Got slammed at work. Will catch up on this shortly 

I prob won't be here tomorrow but I want to settle on a target very shortly at least for myself because it's prob the last I will be on before the night phase

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@Lunatic
But if it's how his role affects another role , it would still be no ?

Or a yes 


Maybe it's veribage 



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So it stands to reason if drafter was asking about could he enable (x)

He would not get an answer ?

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@Lunatic
I asked deeper 


If I were a cop and asked you if an enabler enabled me would it work though a rb , would you answer 

He said 

No because it goes into the mechanic of an enabler 

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I think the dynamic of what drafter was saying is different. 

With customers at work but want to read it in detail. Because if a cop can I investigate a doctor is a different dynamic. 

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@Lunatic
I actually think that locks him as scum 
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@Lunatic
Read over that response and compare it. Dealing with work atm



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@drafterman
You realize this is the pot and kettle right. 
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Also just asked pie 

Do you only tell people how their roles work and not others 

His response 

If a Cop asked how a doctor works, I wouldn’t. If a Cop asks if they can investigate a doctor, I’d say yes

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@drafterman
Ill stoop to your level in a blink. I have no reason not to 

I came in with the intention to play ball and you literally said you would never unvote me in any game ever.  So I'll call your bluff. Any game you play in, I'll be there until I break you

If your willing to teach me a lesson, I'll return the favor 
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Before we lynch him.

Everyone ask pie this 

"Do you only tell people about how their roles work, and would us about how other roles work"

If we all get the same answer, it's a lock 
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@MisterChris
Also go be clear I was not whining about quitting. I was going to ask for a replacement because there is virtually no point in putting in effort when drafter already has some illogical position that he's going to vote me and never remove his vote in every game ever 

Granted now it's much more fun for me just to join every game he plays in until he stops playing mafia 

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@Lunatic
Fair 
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@MisterChris
Bro drafter literally scum slipped 
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@Lunatic
You should probably say you aren't going to vig me at this point so when you don't , there isn't a mislynch on you (if you aren't the kill)
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@Lunatic
I'm waiting on a message from pie to see if he says the same. But I'm like 100 locked on you so I know it will be the same answer 
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@Lunatic
What's even better is when he flips scum 

Basically confirms a roleblocker exists. 

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@Lunatic
It's fucking glorious

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@Lunatic
I don't even have to policy lynch. Bro just scum slipped

You know what to do tonight. 

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@Lunatic
Lol ez
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Pettiness. 

Can't comment on his looks. 

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I'm also going to join every game he plays in to force town to pick between him and I to show the extent of his prettiness

I'm perfectly willing to play in anyone and have not even shown a hint at not trying. So I'm willing to test this on a "moderator" to highlight the hypocrisy being displayed

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Unfortunately I think he's town. I hope he's mafia, but he's likely town. If this is a mafia gambit I'm impressed. It's more likely he's just being petty 
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This is now a policy lynch I'm proposing to hold him to the same standard he says I need to reform from 

I'm obviously playing this game 


1) lynching him gives us his flip which is also useful based on his interaction with people. 
2) him and I can't be alive near the end if he's going to be stubborn, as mafia will auto hammer.

If he's intentionally willing to throw to prove a point even though I'm actively engaging. He deserves to be out through the same standard I was held to. 

He has no high ground. 



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Unvote
Vtl drafter 

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@Lunatic
Is he actually that stubborn he does this as town or is it trying to get a mislynch. 

Also speed is defending him. Don't see that as scum either 


More notes 

Likely

Not 

Drafter / wf
Drafter / gp
Drafter / speed 



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Also for drafters sake I actually hope he does show up as scum. Because the hypocrisy of trying to policy lynch me for being anti town based in past games, while being completely anti town to achieve it in a current game is laughable. 

At this point he doesn't even have high ground to stand on 

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@whiteflame
It's not about needing information it's about the response to the question. If you aren't willing to character claim a character in a game where we have already said there are weird and very lengthy justifications that don't necessarily imply the role it's for one of two reasons 

1) not wanted to be caught out 
2) yours implies a role 

I can say from mine. He's reaching for these justifications and most are very likely something only pia would write or understand because of his bias 

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@Greyparrot
Same
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In also so up for policy lynching drafter just because he's annoying 

If he's doing it as scum , then we got scum. If he's doing it as town , we got rid of a boomer who's going to tunnel the entire game and cost us progress 

I still think wf is prob the better target but not sure how to deal with drafter. If he happens to be town then him and I can't be alive the last day phase or mafia will auto hammer. 

And I think everyone at this point realizes he's throwing harder than I have the past games by being stubborn or he's mafia. 

If he's town I find it hilarious he's trying to teach me a lesson by doing exactly what I did lmao. 


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Another thing 

If pie said role / character for a fake claim

It's also very possible grey and drafter aren't scum

1) drafter claiming right away likely shows he's confident that role does not exist (fake claim ) or he's town

2) I don't think grey parrot wrote that justification

I guess they could have faked both of these but again it's unlikely

So likely a split there as well

Not grey and drafter 



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@Lunatic
I need to fully catch up but I still think I'm right 

What do you say 


1) we lynch wf

If wf flips town, vig drafter 

2) if wf flips scum 

Poe vig 

I still think I'm right about one being scum and one being town

Possible both are town but doubtful. Extremely unlikely both are scum 



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@WaterPhoenix
You said exactly what I thought about him trying to trigger me.  If you sus him , vote him 

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@Greyparrot
Prove me to your town and kill drafter with us 
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Still sheeping luna 

Kinda want him to die anyway as a reverse policy lynch so I can actually enjoy the game. 


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Unvote 

Vtl drafter




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@Lunatic
The thing you won't do 
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@Lunatic
Going to speed vaguely intentionally. How do you feel about my initial proposal. Not out of spite but out of necessity. Ask yourself what happens tomorrow and if the game will be playable because of the revision

I think my initial hint may be the way to go because of lack of confirmation and because I actually think it will result in the inevitable death due to stubbornness

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@Greyparrot
I'm fine with leaving you alone for now .

At least you are engaging. 
 
We have to target lack of activity


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@Greyparrot
Unless pie gave fake claims 
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@Lunatic
Was that a gp town slip?
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@Greyparrot
He means pie gave you one 
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@Lunatic
Yeah I was in the same boat but I'm content with leaving it alone. The depth of the claim shows he probably didn't write it. So it's a fake claim or he's telling the truth. 

The role def is a hyper safe claim for mafia , but piecing those two together is also difficult



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If you aren't already there 
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Okie let's leave parrot alone for now and get back on speed

Parrot can you l-1 him 
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O wait nm

That's not confirmable. Read it wrong. Thought it said role of person who visited him

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@Greyparrot
Also within 5 mins of this 
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@Greyparrot
Last thing and I'll get off you. 

Tldr your justification in detail 
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I think grey is likely town 

I don't see why scum would have that role and he has a confirmable role. Unless scum has some role that allows them to see who visits who

Either way I'd move him out of the poe for a while 

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