Elminster

Why are you using wiki on your character lol 

Yeah that's what any common sense analysis would tell you. 

That and miller is likely a good guy which also bothers me 

I think pie was just thinking way to hard 

Nm don't claim. I think you are just thinking to hard and it makes you seem scummy lol 

Let's start with this. 

What is your theme split theory. This is actually really important and will likely determine how hard you are about to get pressured. Full detail of your theory on theme split 

Also I want to hear your theory on what it is before you claim. 

What is your theory about it ?

I'm okay with pie full claiming. Tbh and fast so he doesn't have time to take anything 

It does really set wrong with me that he said he had a theory and wasn't sure.  This is like one of those splits that slaps you in the face 

This is panicked typing. You just said you didn't know what the theme split is but just because you know the theme split doesn't mean you can solve or that scum have to tell the truth. It's the fact that you have a character that doesn't que you in on what it is when everyone else does 

This is panicked typing. You just said you didn't know what the theme split is but just because you know the theme split doesn't mean you can solve or that scum have to tell the truth. It's the fact that you have a character that doesn't que you in on what it is when everyone else does 

Do you find that weird at all. 

I think I see the vtl. Scum got roles that are so intuitive so it doesn't stick out as much ?

Also forgot 

Okay that makes me retract that a bit. Going to ask myself to confirm 

Dead 

Anyway I think supa was given miller as a fc from luna (he always gives them) and scuffed it. 

Bruh is it no glaring obvious lol 

Tbh the theme is also why I want to lynch supa

Was from back in a live mafia game in August of last year 

How do you have a working theory when the theme is slapping you in the dick bdsm style. Should be obvious af

Discord 

Always down 

"millers need to die dp1. I would policy lynch myself if I was a miller. Let's lynch him before anyone else "

Going to dig around with this because I can swear in every live mafia game we are in, you instantly vote millers. 

You are saying that you have no said millers should die no matter what dp1?

Why aren't you voting him. He claimed miller. 

I'm willing to just outright lynch supa for so many reasons just within his first group of posts 

I don't want assurances. I just think we can actually play in games and move past those games. Typically I don't do that. There are games where I will, but ironically id actually prefer if you don't stop playing. I actually respect you as a player even if you are stubborn 

So are you ever going to stop trying to do it so we can play games normally with each other?

His game , his rules. 

So Im not willing to ruin his fun on a game he took the time to mod. I will continue to sign up for the rest of them until he eventually drops that stupid policy lynch take. After enough of the site never agreeing with him , he will eventually leave it alone. 

If drafter lets me play sure. 

The chances of that happening are roughly 0 lol 

Tbh just woke up and havnt read over the last votes on it. 

I think that was a town slip from Chris. He said wf "was about to me hammered" not realizing he already was. I don't think scum say that because they would be aware

Low-key confident in a 

You 

Me 

Gp

Chris

Town pile if he flips and judging by his response I think we hit it. You probably should consider shooting an in active so we don't have to deal with trying to guess reads when they are not even playing. 

I think I'll be looking at speed / water / and warren tomorrow

was raiding or would have did this hours ago lol

wf just like gave up and didnt bother defending himself 

luna is 100 percent town

allow me to catch you up in one image

I think this does one or two things

1) Shows us that pie is willing to say how another role would impact your role 

2) if hes not willing

If he says he can't say.  I'm near positive that would mean drafter is lying because drafter would have to ask

"If i enable a vig , would a roleblock stop it"

if pie says yes to him, and "can't tell you" to you. Then we got him

Pies Response - Can't talk about roles other than your own

I want you to ask pie this and copy paste it

"If I was enabled, would a roleblock still stop me"

I would have let you buss me already to satisfy drafters baby rage

I think I'm pretty settled on whiteflame. I am often wrong about reading him and I realize his non committal thing could be both town and scum but he comes off as extremely extremely defensive to me. I also don't think him and drafter are scum together, so I think aiming between them two gives us info. But every post he responds to seems like hes offended he is being read as scum

"how could you blah blah"

It also seems like it's faked and it's emotion baiting for sympathy. Scum tend to try and use emotion as a way to town lock themselves. Poor me , etc and such. I use it all the time. So I think my vote will end up there. Not sure if we will have time to push the people that are literally not playing or how to deal with that. But based just on the current content alone that is where I'm going

Before I vote I want to see pies response to the direct question I sent him. 

Leaning 

Grey / WF (Possibly)

Drafter (x)

I really don't want grey to be scum, so I want time to think on that but WF is certainly the direction to go atm.

Bullish - This reads to me like bullish got a town GOP role, which sticks out to me because I'm a town dem. I think the theme may be more complicated than his bias. Because even in my justification, he is taking shots at my character being incompetent but that is why I'm the scape goat. 

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There is town sided reasons for this outside of what is said and what is obvious. But it could also be that he has a fake claim

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Asking pie this directly 

"would an enabler be able to make a vig go through if the vig was roleblcoked"

What sticks out to me about this is drafter would have to know a roleblock could stop a vig that is enabled to make that claim

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As for the game when I get a chance I really want to look at whiteflame as well. I'd need time to eloquently explain why but his opening and non committal behavior really sits not well with me. I know we've said that was eat established in another game as non ai but something really sets wrong with me in this one 

In the same way you all should have had 0 sympathy for me when I got insta killed the past 2 games. Don't blame you. 

There just comes a point where you let it go, but his pride would not allow that 

Last thing I will say about the spat because it's not game relevant. I intentionally came into this game wanting to try and drafter has been intentionally antagonistic and would not let go of it. So the only way to break him of that was to have no one agree with him (which happened) and contest his statement. To see if he would actually never remove a vote on me ever. 

His hiatus shows that he is that vindictive so , 0 sympathy

Something to note. If drafter was scum , would he replace. I think he would be more likely not to because he would feel invested with his scum buddy. 

That leads me to believe he is town, because pie did in fact confirm that he was being replaced to me.