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Also I don't buy this vulnerable town thing. We accidentally force one power role to claim and all of a sudden everyone thinks the game is over. It's literally standard pressure in mafia. You pick someone and pressure to get anything. When you get a pr by accident , there are workarounds. That why game balance exists
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The part that gets me with speed is him changing the justification. He's said 2 different things now.
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@Speedrace
The part about starving and being exiled ?
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@Speedrace
Can you give an in-depth justification about your character. Once more
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Makes sense. I'm a group of people and I am also an evil group of people
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@ILikePie5
I never watched TWD, but appearantly I killed a lot of people but I was somewhat justified because I was trying to look out for other people. In fact some people I don't kill but redirect them to do tasks, but I ultimately die.
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@Vader
Wait supa
Did you say your pm said you died ?
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@ILikePie5
That's the thing that stands out to me the most. As vanilla he would have a toned down justification but not sure if it would be that toned down. I'm re reading. Looking at wagons , etc. To see if I see patterns.
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@coal
Also read your post that I missed. I think smeagol still fits the theme .
Stupid hobbitsies trying to take my ring. This is mine, my property right. Blah blah
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@drafterman
You think that's worse than negan lol?
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@coal
No
Don't mind giving my universe if we need it as it's implies nothing tbh
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@whiteflame
I absolutely own it and still don't think it's bad. Vague warnings about not claiming are not enough to back off pressure. Plus it gives reads and ties together a lot of stuff.
For example.
If there is no cc, that basically locks you. Which also very likely locks the miller.
So we have a town pile. Ill leave it to you to figure out the other utility. But having you out is not the worse thing. Because refusing to claim made it look bad for you. It's understandable why but if someone has pressure and they refuse the claim, the end result is lynch them. We now have stuff to work off of
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@whiteflame
In a world where you are getting pressured. You always claim. This happens in mafia. It's a casualty of dp1. Typically you always lynch unless numbers say no and you pressure the stuff that sticks out. You refusing to say anything sticks out. Sucks that's the universe but needed to happen.
There are benefits to having you claim as well. As drafter said. Game is probably balanced. This happens every other game on mafia scum because you have to pressure someone and if you go on the wrong person , then you work around it.
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@Vader
Yeah unless there is a mason or a cc. It's prob locked.
The claim needed to be pushed anyway just because him refusing to claim would have ended in a mislynch.
Unvote
The claim needed to be pushed anyway just because him refusing to claim would have ended in a mislynch.
Unvote
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@ILikePie5
Probably will.
Thinking really hard about this first and giving someone time to cc
It's such an odd claim and character to have that.
Would be pushing a lot harder on this if luna didn't say he gave 0 fake claims.
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@coal
No it was the framing of how he sent pms. That an example of how I would imagine they function
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@whiteflame
That's not even the main antagonist in police academy what
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@whiteflame
I don't care about just your role. Give your character and justification
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@whiteflame
Full justification , character , role everything
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@ILikePie5
That + if he's town he's already target. So there is no literally not to at this point. He's screaming I'm a really op power role if he is town. So he's already a target.
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You guys can hastle me from not into eternity if I'm wrong. Meme me whatever
But this dude not claiming at least the universe is so fucking anti town that he needs to just outright die.
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@ILikePie5
Does it help if I say he's a jew who's anti trump
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@ILikePie5
Pie rub your brain cells together and put a vote on him. Stop talking and vote.
He needs to die
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Christ why is Danielle not playing in this. She would be all over his ass.
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@whiteflame
You are already useless. You are dead If you are town
So at least help the poe and be cooperative
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I'm refusing to move off whiteflame.
Ill go speed after him.
If someone is at a point where they have no reason not to claim. He's already said it himself. He's likely dead if that's true. Not it's just purely anti town to not claim .
To draw this up one more time.
This man has now said
1) his universe, character, and role are inferred by the title of his universe. Much less this now has to be a evil sided universe with an evil sided title that would even allow this
2) had said that there is only one main villan. Because to fulfill that , there can't be multiple ones based on what he's said. It would have to dominate the universe.
I'm willing to test this and will test and I'm staying here. I wand speed and he's my target next dp and should be everyone's focus but wf needs to claim or die
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Not that the Paul blart thing is serious or would be here. But as an example. Most stuff like that which would be so inferential is a progtagonist not a antagonist
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@whiteflame
Bro listen to what you are saying. What show / movie / whatever has a title (you just now added this to it) that is so obvious that it screams your role.
I would buy this if it's a progtagonist
Paul blart , but Paul blart would be scum.
I'm really interested to see wtf you are going to claim that now is
1) suppose to be obvious by the title
2) has a villan in it
3) villan is likely the only villan you could infer
4) villan is so obvious it gives away your role
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@whiteflame
Also this is wrong
In that world paul blart would be scum.
You need to have a world where the villan is the only villan and it ties to your claim. More than that , you are now saying the title likely has a villan in it
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Someone please refute this if you don't vote him
We have a townie saying lynch me if you want I'm not claiming. 9/10 out of ten that is always scum. And every time wf has done this , he is scum
He did this in live mafia and at the last second claimed Oracle or knowing every role in the game and got the roles wrong and we laughed and killed him. Wf does really bad under pressure as scum. We need to put pressure there and if something does not line up with what he said, we lynch him. If it makes sense we go speed.
He's already claimed a high key pr now, so there is certainly no reason not to push. When you say I have a role and this gives it away you are the nk.
There is literally no reason for him not to claim other than fear of a cc at this point.
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@drafterman
I only want to go with him if he doesn't claim.
I typically agree. Speed is a much better choice. However his unwillingness to claim is hedging and waiting for other claims.
I don't see a world where he claims a universe and we go "ooo it's that power role"
Unless it's like oro said. Paul blart lmao
He needs to give the universe imo and then I'll go back to speed.
If his universe does line up with what he's already tied himself to then we go him
I typically agree. Speed is a much better choice. However his unwillingness to claim is hedging and waiting for other claims.
I don't see a world where he claims a universe and we go "ooo it's that power role"
Unless it's like oro said. Paul blart lmao
He needs to give the universe imo and then I'll go back to speed.
If his universe does line up with what he's already tied himself to then we go him
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Town ffs wake up when you read this.
Get pressure on him.
He's tied to this shit now. He's prob going through Google trying to find a way to justify what he just said.
He now has to have a universe with an antagonist that is so large it instantly screams his role. And now if it doesn't come out that way, we got em
Pressure if the universe
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@whiteflame
It's perfectly clear. I'm willing to test that. What are you saying is your universe will out your character and your character will out your role.
For that to be true there can only be 1 overwhelming antagonist and that antagonist has to be so easy to read that it's not worth you claiming the universe
Cases so far that's not true
Lotr could be like 4 people
Walking dead - could be like 6
Got - could be like 20
I'm absolutely willing to test this. In this situation you always claim at least the universe. Your are waffling
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We are not even asking the role. The damn universe and he's willing to die to not claim it.
Get him out
Get him out
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