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@n8nrgim
that looks like a deflection. ancient historicans did refer to him as a magician. whether or not modern historicians would seriously entertain magic is irrelevant. you can choose to ignore what ancient historians said, but at least state that you are choosing ignoring it.
It is irrelevant because, and this is what I saw in History Channel, Jesus was not the only preacher and miracle performer at that time. I think there is a passage in the gospels where one of their followers tells Jesus about a guy that was doing similar things as him. Jesus, aka the christ, said it was ok. So, I would doubt whether the magic performed back then was really magic or simply things that could be explained with the current science.
Don't take it the wrong way, but judging by your arguments (and perhaps your grammar and orthography, I'm not authorized to say it because english is not my mother tongue) I would say you're an uneducated person. Am I right? Do you have any degree? I'm sorry but knowledge matters a lot in this kind of discussions.
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@Best.Korea
This one is actually possible.Just let man jerk off and then take his semen and push it in your vagina.You will be virgin because dick didnt enter your vagina, only semen did.
If you put the yogurt into a woman's vagina as you say, you're technically deflowering her, unless you have a very advanced technology to do it, which means it could have been possible at that time only if an extraterrestrial being had performed this procedure.
Actually, many contactees claim that Maria got pregnant in that way, so I wouldn't rule that out.
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@n8nrgim
The scholar concesus is about the historical Jesus, not the Jesus of the gospels. You've got to be careful with that, it's not the same. There is no proof that the Jesus described in the gospels, aka the Christ, really existed. Maybe this JesusChrist character was constructed based on the historical Jesus, it' very likely.
Meanwhile, as I've always said anytime I talked about Jesus, we don't know if he really existed, which means we don't know if the miracles, the virgin mother, the resurrection and all this shit really happened.
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@Stephen
What do you mean- "defer to it"?
I think he meant "differ".
As to the topic, I couldn't agree more. Some investigations state that Jesus believed in reincarnation, and some of the ruled-out books in the new testament talked about it.
But I'm more interested in the old testament which is full of blatant incoherences. I'm going to open a thread about it since I've just come to watch an interview with the journalist and UFO investigator JJ Benitez who has published his new book "Las guerras de Yavé" (Yahve's wars). It's fucking interesting.
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@Stephen
So, Tradesecret was quite a character, wasn't s/he? Hahaha. This is how dogmatic people behave, and to me they represent a serious danger for anyone close to them.
However, in my case nobody called me like this except me. You might have noticed that "Il Diavolo" means "The devil" but not in the common religious sense but in the sexual sense. I'm a fucking devil when it comes to sex. 😁
Besides, there is no such thing as devil or Satan or whatever. If there has ever been a devil in this world this is the human being.
However, in my case nobody called me like this except me. You might have noticed that "Il Diavolo" means "The devil" but not in the common religious sense but in the sexual sense. I'm a fucking devil when it comes to sex. 😁
Besides, there is no such thing as devil or Satan or whatever. If there has ever been a devil in this world this is the human being.
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@Sidewalker
There are quite a few demons on these boards, and they'd know, why don't you just PM them.
Yes, I'm one of them. I am "Il Diavolo". Lol.
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You don't believe in "God" and you open a thread saying you are trying to summon a demon? What the fuck?
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These are people that you can't discuss with. And don’t wonder if the conflict of Palestine and Israel escalate.
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@n8nrgim
i am pro force and pro coercion
We all know you're a communist. Lol.
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Dogmatic people can be so cruel and evil.. not only in religion but also in politic, specially the communists.
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@Stephen
That explains the results in the Brexit, I guess. Brits voted for the "yes" because they couldn't stand the massive migration from islamic countries basically.
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@Greyparrot
I've always said that if you want to improve yourself you've got to see what the succesful people do.
So, you want to improve or correct the corrupted and mediocre system of the US, right? Who is doing better in this matter in the world? This may be Switzerland, in my humble opinion. This country has a different political system called direct democracy. I suggest you check that out.
So, you want to improve or correct the corrupted and mediocre system of the US, right? Who is doing better in this matter in the world? This may be Switzerland, in my humble opinion. This country has a different political system called direct democracy. I suggest you check that out.
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@Best.Korea
But I am special.
Yes, you are special... a special kid. Lol.
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@Stephen
Interesting point if we are to compare the Genesis creation story with the original Mesopotamian creation epic written thousand of years before the bible was even thought of.In this much earlier story the Serpent was non other than another god, the Lord EA Enki half brother to Enlil the ruling god. He took a likening to the earthling woman and slipped inside her; something that was a total taboo for the gods and their sons.
Indeed. The whole bible has references to other eastern beliefs. And I have to say it's not a bad thing, you can see it in literature, there isn't any novel that hasn't been inspired by past novels.
In the gospels, the doctine of Jesus being born from a virgin is not an original tale, you can see it in the egyptian culture before Jesus existed. It occurs to me that the doctrine of Jesus being God's son is not original either, I think it was taken from the Greek mythology in which there are human figures that appear as God's son like Hercules who is Zeus' son. I mean, it squares perfectly because the gospels were written in greek, so I can suppose that the writers were inspired by the greek phylosophy.
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I'm pretty sure this story of Adam and Eve has a raison d'etre only known by the person who wrote it, because as it is written, it's susceptible of various interpretations.
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I think you've got to rephrase this question because it's unclear what you mean by "God".
Maybe you mean a creator, whether this universe needs a creator or not. Maybe the universe is the creator itself and is alive.
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Not just miracles. These people pretend to have the monopoly on God, the truth, the salvation, the prophesies, the interpretation of the bible, and so on. Everything outside of them is fake, a product of devil's trickery.
Of course, we all know that what they really want is to have a monopoly on the tithe. Hahahahahaha.
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@Public-Choice
As Greyparrot said, I didn't mean "gay" in the usual sense of the word but gay as the way the man is getting far away from his real nature. I guess you may know men's skin is thicker and rougher than that of women, so it's useless to use products on our skin when it's not necessary.
I'm specially worried about how young men are getting attitudes that correspond only to women. The male body is supposedly accostumed to the tough work, to the fight, to the war. So, you might understand why I speak out when I see men like you caring too much about their looks, that is fucking gay, or effeminate if you will.
Besides that, women don’t pay too much attention on our look but on our skills as men: self-confidence, mental and physical strenght, sociability, etc, because that is what matters when it comes to protect her and the offspring.
There is a saying in the spanish world that says it all: "el hombre es como el oso, cuanto más feo más hermoso" (man is like the bear, the uglier the more beautiful). 😁
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@Lemming
Never heard of him, thought about listening to a song. . . nah.
You do well, he sounds more or less like a motorcycle. Lol.
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@FLRW
Bad Bunny will Host and Perform on SNL on Oct. 21.
So, that means you americans like this guy and his music, right? What is going on with the american taste?
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@Public-Choice
Do you realize that virtually every black man in the world moisturizes? Are they all gay to you?
How so?
Show a little more respect to our brothers, dude.
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Have you ever heard of this guy and his music? Man, I've come to listen to him sing and he really sucks, seriously. I wanted to crunch my balls out of desperation. He has no idea how to sing but he's the most popular among the youth.
What the fuck is going on?
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@Public-Choice
No, a macho man that respects himself doesn’t do gay stuff. Today it's moisturizer, what is it tomorrow? Botox?
Don't confuse it with being hygienic, a wash with a good soap is enough for a macho man to be clean. If you don't want to end up sharing girl-stuff with your girlfriend instead of banging her hard I suggest you to leave the gayness and behave like a real man. 😁
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@Public-Choice
I don't follow. Are you saying straight guys should be ugly and unhygenic?
Straight guys should be simply guys. Guys don't put stuff on their faces, that's pretty gay.
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@Best.Korea
Why too much self-pity? That is not good for you, man.
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@n8nrgim
Even if all a man had to do is shape up to date women r still too picky. Maybe women r picky cause men suck but the fact remains women r picky.
If most women are raised being the little princess of dad, then I don’t wonder they are so picky. 😁
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@Public-Choice
It also isn't that hard to look good. Just learn your facial shape and what types of hair styles and beard styles compliment that, then learn your body type and what types of clothes to wear to compliment it and, presto-chango, you look hot.Then just shower regularly, put on some cologne, don't wear worn out, dated shit, and don't talk about controversial stuff and let the other person do all the talking and, in 2 years, if you do everything I said, these really simple steps, YOU are the top 20%.This is telling me that men want to not be hygenic, not have a good-paying job, not dress nicely, and not have social skills. Like... so men want to all be losers??? Is that it?Honestly it is so easy to become successful in America that I wonder why so many people don't even try looking into it.
Look at what we have here, a real dandy. Lol.
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@Swagnarok
These terrorist attacks did nothing to further the cause of Palestinian self-defense; if anything, their lives are about to get a thousand times harder as the Israeli army invades their homes. Hamas indiscriminately beheaded babies when this would have no bearing on the ultimate outcome they hope to achieve (if anything, it was counterproductive). It was killing for the sake of killing.
Deep down I think palestinians deserve any response Israel will carry out because they voted for Hamas in the past elections. If you noticed, palestinians around the world applauded the Hamas' insane attack, so I believe this should be considered as a factor that the OP was refering to for killing people. "Each country has the government it deserves" - Winston Churchill.
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Woman that isn't picky is not a woman. Lol.
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@triangle.128k
I guess you muslims also want the destruction of those who don’t give a shit about what you call Allah.
You're not like the zionists, you're worse.
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@ponikshiy
The whole division between Palestinian and jew is what assholes want us to focus on. This is 100% on Hamas, and you can argue that Hamas interprets the Koran correctly and peaceful Muslims are the ones who misinterpret the Bible, but I think we shouldn't obfuscate where the blame for these atrocities lay. We do not blame Germans for th holocaust. It was nazis. We shouldn't blame Palestinians for this latest massacre, it was Hamas.
I agree with you, but you are not considering that islamic extremism is all over the middle east. Even if Israel manages to defeat these terrorists, extremism will sprout up again in a vicious cycle.
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I think Biden should be impeached inmediatetly because the US needs a person that is up to the task in this moment of uncertainty.
Nevertheless, I can't help noticing that this Just Fact organization seems to be a think tank from the right wing, judging by the content of its web page.
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@zedvictor4
Belief is futile.If you know something you know it.If you don't you don't.
It's good you doubt about it because it's the only way to reach the truth.
Nevertheless, I don't think a belief is futile, at least not if it has some consistency in its arguments. And I think you might be referring to the psychic stuff. In most of the reports of contacted people, they communicate with these aliens using telepathy, so I guess it counts as a psychic ability. There are also testimonies of spontaneous healing in the encounters and before you mention anything about mental illness, take into consideration that this kind of communication usually come about in a group of people, so you can't say everyone is mentally ill.
A belief can be based on intuition which to me is the first step to know something. I don't just take this belief from one only source but from several and I compare to one another in order to draw previous conclusions before going any further. I know there still are loose ends to tie up but I think I am on the right track.
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@n8nrgim
There are thousands of testimonies about it. Even atheists could heal and it has to do with the faith Jesus used to talk about, not necessarily a faith in an imaginary being, it could be the faith in yourself. If you want to have faith in the universe (I prefer this term instead of God), it's the same shit because we are only one. In the end you're the one who is doing the miracle, not a "high power".
I always thought that Jesus, if ever existed, was like Buddha, taught buddhist stuff and tried to subvert the judaism for the sake of his people but he failed because his teachings were distorted and he ended up being deified by his followers. Despite all this, I think Jesus left valuable teachings that we have to search carefully in all the nonsense of the gospels, like the miracles. If you look carefully through it, you will realize he didn't make the miracles: “Your faith has made you well”, Matthew 9, 22.
I started to know about all this when I got interested in UFO sightings. According to some people that had encounters with these alien beings, they were told that human minds are capable of doing things we have never imagined and proof of that is that these aliens have the same genetic roots of that of humans and can do lot of psychic stuff. Of course, there is no evidence of what I'm saying, it's only testimonies. But whatever it is, I believe in it because most of the testimonies are logically consistent.
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@FLRW
No, it's, if religions for some reason disappear, then atheism is correct. Remember that Bill Gates is an atheist.
Not necessarily, my friend. That would be a fallacy.
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@n8nrgim
the catholic church has a whole section of itself that investigates miracles. it's irrational to deny that things that look supernatural happen... the question is how to interpret them.
I think I said this in another thread, people can heal with the mind, it's just that people don't know how capable they are. Cases like those you presented here is not uncommon in people that hold other beliefs or even don't hold any belief at all because it has to do with the state of the mind and not the religion they advocate, so it's not necessary to join a church or pray to an imaginary being to achieve it. I met a man that cured his cancer with laugh therapy, just to say an example. He started to rent dozens of comedy films to heal.
As for "God", you have to make it clear what kind of God you refer to. For example, the philosopher Spinoza thought God was the universe and that everything, including all of us, is God because it is rather stupid and retarded to think that God is as described in the bible.
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@n8nrgim
I also think that atheism doesn't make sense because it's basically an ideological movement that appeared as a virulent reaction to religions.
Then, if religions for some reason disappear, so do atheism.
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@FLRW
Albert Einstein said in 1954, the year he died : “The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.”
I think this is true, but you've got to consider he refered to the Christian God.
I have the impression though that Einstein believed in the Spinoza God, but I'm not so sure, let me check that out.
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@n8nrgim
maybe God doesnt talk to people in a burning bush, cause that story was made up in the bible.
The most accepted theory about these silly stories is that Moises had an encounter with an alien being. There are lot of videos in YouTube explaining that, aside from History channel.
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@FLRW
But those scientifics you mentioned are not atheists, imho.
What do you believe in, FLWR?
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@n8nrgim
Communrs and land and building supplies cost money. A below average income has little choice.
These supplies cost hard work. The fact that this work can be expressed as money doesn't mean it's not hard work anymore.
So you work hard to build your own commune or go to the cities to earn some money working hard so someone else build it for you. It's the same shit. Lol.
That's why I say you have a communist mindset, those people expect someone else to pay their bills.
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Why don't you say once and for all that you are communist? 😁
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@Best.Korea
Putin knows very well he is not going to die of old age. 🤣
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@Greyparrot
Starbucks CLOSES STORES In Downtown San Francisco The City Is Going To HELL
Go woke, go broke. Lol.
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@Lemming
I believe Putin would never dare to nuke another country. I can't say the same about muslim countries, though. These people are fucking savage, at the level of Kim Jong-un.
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@Lemming
Dude, you need to check out your world history books. The great world started with the murder of a fucking archduke. We can't say nothing will happen.
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@Lemming
Why end of the world?'Possibly lot of radiation in the Middle East,But not the end of the world,Maybe even just 'some radiation in the Middle East.
Oh, man, you have no idea.
If Iran starts nuking, the whole world will follow suit.
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In all honesty, I don't give a ffffffffffuck about it. I mean, zionists vs muslims, it's obvious they'll butcher each other.
What worries me is Iran and its testing nuclear program. I hope these zealots don't test it on Israel, that would the end of this world.
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@zedvictor4
If it's the science that conclude it, would you agree with it?
You've got to consider that what Pachita did was witnessed by several people that not necessarily believed in those things.
Moreover, I'm not suggesting that there is a magic world with fairies that grant our wishes. What I'm saying is that the mind has more capabilities than we thought. Have you ever heard of people healing with the mind? Apparently having access to what we call subconscious mind can make us do extraordinary things. There is an astonishing case of a man that healed his broken spine just with the power of his mind (through meditation). All the cases deemed as miracles are nothing else than the mind working on the body.
I'm not here to convince you, Zed. You're old enough for drawing your own conclusions.
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@ponikshiy
Hamas is killing civilians, kidnapping and clearly is acting like a terrorist. There is no reason to target civilians.
Hamas is deemed a terrorist organization by the international community. Lol. What were you expecting?
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