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I'm under the impression that Trump hates Mexico, or at the very least doesn't like it.
I'm going to be honest, I don't like it either. I met a lot of mexicans and these people are rude, nationalists and fkn ignorant. Not all but most of them are. Besides, Mexico has a lot problems that says a lot about its society, like the rampant corruption, discrimination, violence, drug cartels, and so on, mexican society is fkn sick and has no remedy imho. Although there are people that think Mexicans are happy regardless, even happier than Americans.
I'd like to know what you think about them. Are they a problem for the US? Are they your friends that just need a hand? Do you think Trump is treating them fairly?
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@WyIted
If the drone the has secret technology on board than you could expect retrieval teams to be secretive
How do you explain the psychic stuff and the emotional feelings in whistleblowers?
Maybe you think it's bullshit but all the UFO literature describes people getting in contact with aliens telepathically.
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@Stephen
@zedvictor4
@FLRW
Maybe you're interested in it.
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It seems that the whistleblowers can't wait for Trump to take office so they decided to go out and say all what they know. Here you have a report from NewsNation.
This is fkn interesting. It's not just the release of a UAP retrieval video that you can find at 13:36 min in but it's also the testimony of whistleblowers. You'll see that one of them went through a sort of "religious experience" when retrieving an alien craft which tell us that the stories of the bible (and other religions) are very related to UAPs.
There is a lot of stuff that is worth consideration in this video. It's usual to hear that in alien contact the communication is by telepathy so we have to consider that human beings can develop psychic abilities as the aliens have. The whistleblowers even say that the nonhuman crafts are controlled mentally by these intelligent beings (aliens) and that the Project Stargate related to the research of psychic abilities in humans had positive results.
Another thing that needs consideration is how the American military works. As far as I understood, the whistleblower says there is a lot of secrecy in private corporations that manage the UAP retrieval and that I think it's related to the military industry corporation. I can tell a lot about this that is usually considered as conspiracy theory but I let you draw your own conclusions.
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@zedvictor4
Show us an unequivocally provable close up of an actual extra-terrestrial craft and actual aliens.None of this I'm a spiritual and telepathic contactee, in touch with something somewhere.
You will see it, Victor. We're close to it.
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@zedvictor4
I'm not sure where did you get that but the dude has UFO photos and invite people to gather in points where UFO will appear to be seen in advance. Several journalists and other interested people were convinced in that way.
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@Shila
Maybe he an shed light on: The Assassination of John F Kennedy - a new forensic take based on FACTS
From what I can say, this case is related to the aliens.
It is said that the deep state, the secret organization that ordered to kill JFK, has been keeping contact with an alien faction. JFK was a bother for their plans.
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@zedvictor4
Please pass on that contactee information.
One of the main contactees for me is the peruvian anthropologist Sixto Paz Wells. He published a lot of books about it and has a website. It's in Spanish so I don't know if it's useful for you though I think there are some books of him in English.
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@FLRW
Simply stated, the Rare Earth hypothesis suggests that the very unique conditions of Earth that allowed complex life to arise and flourish are exceptionally uncommon — and they’re unlikely to occur throughout the universe.
What happened, dude? The aliens scared you?
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@zedvictor4
One assumes that life evolved similarly in similar environments.Though we should take into account the potential for more or less extinction events.Fucking great asteroids and the like.Intelligent reptiles is a sensible proposition.
The problem is that you're thinking that what only exists in this reality is matter and there is nothing more beyond. You're evidently a materialist, I'm not.
As I said, aliens are everywhere in this universe and are diverse. According to them, they didn't appear by chance as human scientists think about us because such diversity can't be a product of chance, ain't it? So, I guess that when the different aliens show up in the earth this stupid theory about life creation by chance will be completely discarded.
So, who created the first aliens? Well, I have information about it from the contactees but you would never believe it. Lol.
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@Best.Korea
I dont think Shila is me (maybe?), but she is a lot of fun.
Oh, I bet she is. Lol.
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@zedvictor4
What do you mean? Don’t you like the word "fucking" or that I had included the aliens?
I once told you that the aliens are like us, they also are evolving. Humans also will be like them, travelling through space, looking for planets to seed life and expanding their consciousness even further with the knowledge they acquire as the new "Gods" of their creation. Lol.
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@zedvictor4
So why do we possess this nature?
I don’t know. It's just the way it is, I guess every consciousness in the universe behaves like that, including the fucking aliens.
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@Shila
There is no intelligent life beyond our solar system according to scientist.
I don't give a shit what scientists say, BK.
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@zedvictor4
Well, I'm using the term "God" just to denote perfection or the maximum level we can aspire to. It's nothing about religion.
You tend to be so, if you didn’t note it, saying that humans should bring intelligent life beyond earth. That's to want to take to the next level, it's our nature as the consciousness we are.
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@zedvictor4
Consciuosness, is the ability to respond to incoming signals.
I think you're describing a computer, Victor
Conciousness is awareness of being alive. Computers can't do that.
I prefer to think from all what I've read that consciouness is pure mind and the rest is the creation of such consciouness. It sounds very philosophical but it resonates with me a lot because it makes sense.
But on the other hand, we might be one of millions of species for absolutely no reason.
Contrary to what religions claim, I think the purpose of this fucking life is just to experience what we create as consciousness and evolve or make improvements according to what we experience. It's what we do in this life if you didn't note it.
I like to think of it as a game devoloper that develops a game from scratch and his game evolves gaining speed, quality and realism to the point that the game doesn't need any more improvements because it attained the perfection, it became a God game.
The consciousness just want to create and experience what it creates. This is its nature, our nature. Don't you think it makes sense?
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@Stephen
And then they want to be "gods." and probably are seen as gods in some peoples eyes.
This is definitely the nature of human beings which is not so different to the aliens that were taken as "Gods" in the past.
Life beyond the earth is not that different to our planet. You'll see aliens fighting one another for resources and power. As I once told you, "as above so below". There might be benevolent aliens as there are benevolent humans but we have to be careful anyway because everyone has their price.
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@zedvictor4
Or the only intelligent universal species.
That is totally ruled out, Victor. A simple propabilty analysis will tell you that this is impossible.
You haven't factored A.I. into your proposition.
Human beings are biological AIs, the only difference is that we have consciousness.
I'm still trying to understand what consciousness is, though this is seemingly what ancient people in asian phylosophies called the soul. I don’t see it as something mystic or religious, it's very likely a technology of a different nature.
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@Shila
Too bad Trump already picked JD Vance for VP. You would have been a better choice.
I'll take that as a compliment. Thank you very much.
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Nazis and fascists were very nationalists like Trump, but they were socialists too unlike Trump. Nazis were racists, Trump on the other hand is not. As far as I know he had a black girlfriend, he seemed to be very happy with her.
Nazis should rather be compared to comunists, like Stalin, Mao, or Pol Pot. I don't think Trump is like the comunists or any kind of fascist. Maybe some of his acolytes have this crap in their heads, like the KKK.
So, I'd say the KKK are fascists and as punishment I would force them to mate with black people and have children with them. No punches, no jail, no electric chair, only a taste of their own medicine.
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@Stephen
@zedvictor4
@FLRW
The aliens that are looking over our progress probably think that humans are just bugs.
Are you interested in the aliens, FLRW? Since when? :)
Well, it is said that in the ancient times they saw humans as children. Now they see us as teenagers so I guess there has been an improvement.
Believe it or not, humans are very important for them because our DNA has a lot of potential, not like theirs. That explains the multiple abductions done by some alien civilizations, with the due permission of course. They don't do it anymore because it caused a lot of traumas in some people so it's been forbidden.
I think I already said this, the aliens that seeded the human beings in the earth are stuck in their evolutionary process, so some higher-ranking aliens helped them create a new race that would fix their problem. If the human project succeds that would serve for the rest of alien races that need a push in their evolution, including the alien races that are in dispute with the aliens that are looking over us.
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@WyIted
For me it's not really about getting a quick result. It's not even necessarily about finishing. I am trying to learn some skills here and have fun
Oh, I see.
Maybe it would be helpful for you to know that before starting to code it's recommended to have a UI design. That saves you a lot of time.
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@WyIted
Well, I'm not sure why you want to create another forum site but in my opinion it's not necessary to create one from scratch.
There are lot of forum site templates out there that you can get and customize. You don’t even have to code, just hire a philippine programmer as a slave to get the job done.
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@Sidewalker
Yes, the wildfires are a left-wing conspiracy, George Soros lit the fires himself.
You're underestimating the shitty leftists.
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Who is the owner of debate art? I feel curious.
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I'm hearing from some pundits that the wildfires could have been mitigated quickly but the woke authorities of California didn’t do shit about it because this disaster magnifies their narrative of climate change.
Can these people be more evil?
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@Lemming
I am not aware of the Panama Canal being defined as Concession infrastructure in the treaty when Panama agreed to sell the land to America, when America built the Panama Canal.Nor am I aware of any agreed upon time period in the initial treaty, that said America would give/trade over to Panama the Canal.
The initial treaty made the canal area an American enclave, or an American colony if you will. That's why the US signed another treaty in order to comply with the international agreements of the United Nations (something that the Brits refuse to comply so far, by the way). There is no enclave or colony in Panama as a consequence of it, which is good.
Even the later treaty under Carter had 'conditions, that allowed America the ability to intervene."Under this treaty, the U.S. retained the permanent right to defend the canal from any threat that might interfere with its continued neutral service to ships of all nations. "Is something 'truly a nations own property,When one sets laws allowing foreign nations to intervene should they disagree with your use of it?If it were 'truly Panama's canal, they could refuse American ships access, though they might face economic sanctions,'But by the treaty agreed, America could invade, 'if the treaty is ever broken. I assume.
Not only the US but all the international community. The Neutrality Treaty has international reach because it was promoted by the UN, in fact it was signed by several countries. So if Panama breaks the treaty, all the international community should agree to intervene the canal. It's not that the US can make up an excuse to invade Panama, eventhough we know the US is used to do that all the time, specially in the Middle East. Yes, unfortunately the US doesn't give a shit about what the UN says, so Americans can invade Panama if they will, they just need an excuse no matter how ridiculous it sounds, like for example Panama having nuclear bombs.
Anyway, if the US decides to invade Panama unilaterally using a made up excuse, it will be condemned by the international community and this is not going to be good for the relationship with the hispanic community. And remember that China is having more influence in Latin America so it would be worse for the US.
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@Lemming
The Panama canal is a concession which is never perpetual as Americans tried to impose, otherwise it would be an enclave, or an American colony. That's why President Carter with a great majority of the US Congress approved of giving it back to the Panamanians. Here you have the definition of a concession:
Concession infrastructure investing allows private companies to design, build, finance, and operate public assets, such as social and economic greenfield and brownfield infrastructure projects, in exchange for user fees or government payments over a long-term concession period.
As you can see, concessions are not perpetual, it lasts just a period of time that is usually long in order for the investor to have attractive returns. What Americans tried to do initially was to take over part of the Panamanian territory. This is not good at all according to international agreements. So, the US did good at giving it back because nearly 100 years of exploitation of the canal is more than enough to get its investment back and have a return.
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@Lemming
How do you figure the Canal was the rightful property of the Panamanians?I'm not saying it isn't/wasn't, just curious of your views.
I've checked that there is a treaty where the US pledges to give the canal back to Panama in 1999. Trump can't do anything about it unless he wants to behave like a dictator and take over the canal manu militari.
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@Greyparrot
Maybe, but that's not how the CIA works, and they are pissed they can't do those deals anymore.
A new murder attempt is coming. Some seers say that the Trump's will be the new Kennedy's.
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@Greyparrot
All the same, how do you explain Trump's son visiting Greenland?
I also think Trump is trolling but he certainly has some interest in Greenland and Panama canal. Maybe he wants to negotiate.
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@Greyparrot
Trump is clearly trolling the CIA, because the CIA doesn't like it when presidents say out loud what they do in secret.
You mean all what Trump is saying is part of the CIA's plan? How do you know that?
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@Shila
America elected Trump twice. With 8 years in office he should be able to duplicate Hitler.
You were supposed to respond with your other account. Lol.
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@Shila
Trump is giving Putin and Xi Ping the excuse to take over Ukraine and Taiwan by abandoning the principles of democracy.
Maybe it's part of a plan to teach Russia and China that he will respect the sovereignty of other countries.
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@Best.Korea
I guess given enough time, in any country, eventually some Hitler must come to power.
That would depend on whether Americans support him or not. Remember that Hitler did all what he did because most of the Germans supported him.
I know Americans can be very stupid sometimes but I think they can judge wisely when it's needed. I mean, with all due respect.
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@Lemming
I wish I could find more information,But I see some people claiming the treaty the USA made with Panama gave USA ability to take back canal if canal operation is disrupted.https://www.reddit.com/r/Jordan_Peterson_Memes/comments/1hngew4/leftoids_cant_get_anything_right/I don't mean to spread disinformation, I just can't find info on the treaty or whatever difficulties Panama is having maintaining the canal.Maybe someone else has the info.
I think Trump needs another murder attempt to leave his childish behaviour once and for all because he has nothing to do with Panama Canal which was given back to the real owner, the Panamanians.
Of course, the US can find any excuse to "bring democracy" to other countries anyway, although I believe that Trump will have problems with the US military if he really tries to do what they want to do because it's against the international law. I mean, same with what he did in the Congress when he didn’t accept the election results, most people turn their back on him.
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@Shila
Even if it was UFOs it would still be a miracle to see alien life.
That is not a miracle. A miracle would have been if these ignorant people had realized it was an alien ship.
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If christianity were true, then all the religions would be false, which means more than 2/3 of the world population would go to hell.
That'd be the most fvcking stupid and unjust statement that someone would ever say.
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@Stephen
It may be a case that something unusual occurred and when the church got wind of the story decided to embellish it with their own take on what "really" happened.
Indeed. The church would never allow people to spread a story that goes against the christian narrative.
The church was so scary about it that decided to jail one of the surviving child into a convent with no permission to go out. Also they decided to keep in secret the third prophecy which in summary predicts the fall of the church (or the Vatican). You might have heard about the prophecy of the last pope, I think we are in time for that.
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@WyIted
The phenomenon of the dancing sun was legit but we have to take it with a grain of salt because those people were actually gullible and didn't know exactly what they saw. Remember that in the 30's people were fervently religious, ignorant and their lives practically belonged to the church, so if you see the current narrative about it there is a lot of influence of the Catholic church (The Vatican) on it.
For example, as Stephen said, there was not any virgin because that entity that showed up introduced herself as someone from the sky (in spanish and portuguese "sky" is another way to refer to "heaven"), so the entity said the truth, she came down from the sky, not heaven, and the children indeed saw her coming down. Also, the prophecies have a lot of religious language which not necesarily represent what this entity tried to say. Usually these UFOs show up to warn people about something serious that will happen soon, in this case the world war I and II.
Besides, the bright light is very usual in UFOs. Many contactees describe that the UFO releases a great light beam that creates a dome of light on the ground in order for the contactees to get in contact with these entities. Maybe it's a sort of technology that functions as a shield or protection for the fucking aliens.
Furthermore, the phrase "dancing sun" was not the best description of what happened, it was just a phrase that someone found very catchy so it spread everywhere. In reality, the people saw a sort of sauce revolving like a fire and coming down to the point that people thought it was going to crush them.
All in all, this phenomenon has all the characteristics of a UFO. No doubt.
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@WyIted
Well his policies helped increase poverty and impoverished people are more likely to vote Democrat. Also illegal aliens are more likely to have kids who vote democrat, despite the massive amount of damage they do to the economy and safety of American citizens. So he made the Democratic party stronger.
Well, I think he did nothing good to the democrat party, rather all the opposite.
In fact, some seers claim that the Democrat party is going to lose the next 2028 election. The damage is deep.
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@Moozer325
Being the worst in all history might be debatable, but he sure is the worst in US modern history.
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@WyIted
You should probably give thoughts on why you think this in the op so we have something to discuss
Well, there are so many fuckups in this government that I don’t know where to start.
Maybe the most outrageous fuckup is the inmigration policy. There is a lot to talk about it.
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@Mall
Ok so there is no so called worst President to you ok. So your answer would be there is none for you.
Are you saying that as I'm not American I can't give my informed opinion about it?
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@Mall
I said what does worst mean in representative of your life?Do you understand what I'm asking ?How does a presidency which you deem as the worst reflect in your everyday life?How does it or how has it affected you per se?
You should ask this to an American.
I responded based on what I know about what Americans feel. They think their government has been economically inefficient and blatantly dishonest.
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@Shila
The crypto currency is trading at 100,000 each. If the dollar loses value. It will cost America even more.
I'm not saying they will trade right now. As I said, they will find the right time to do it.
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@Mall
What really does worst mean as representative of your life?
Is this one of your stupid phylophical quests you always pose?
Worst means the worst, the least efficient, the least effective, the least honest, and so on.
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@Shila
The U.S. debt will have to be paid in crypto currency which is more expensive than the dollar. Trump filed 7 bankruptcies. He wants to ride the crypto currency success.
When the US starts to collapse the dollar will value far less than cryptocurrency. It's just a matter of finding the right time to sell it all at a low price, as it happens in the stock market.
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@cristo71
Indeed. It was meant to be humorously ironic. Fail, I guess. Your thread is about a competition for the bottom instead of the top, but it is still a competition.
Good point. And Biden is winning it by far.
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@Shila
Trump is urging lawmakers to eliminate the debt ceiling altogether So there will be no debt ceiling during his term in office.
Trump plans on getting rid of the dollar because it doesn't value what it used to value anymore.
Instead, he will try to introduce cryptocurrency in the US and close the FED so that he doesn't pay any debt. No dollar, no debt.
It's a very clever move, the problem is that he'll fuck all the world up.
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