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Oromagi- 3/6- drafterman, supadudz, Bullish
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Also as a heads up I will most likely not answer questions in the day phase unless it pertains to public knowledge things like vote counts etc. I will not answer questions about hypothetical roles and their mechanics. If you have a question about how your role works specifically private message me.
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@Greyparrot
@drafterman
@Bullish
@WaterPhoenix
@Singularity
#DDOTHROWBACK
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@Vader
@ILikePie5
@oromagi
@Discipulus_Didicit
@SirAnonymous
#DDOTHROWBACK
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All roles can be found from games here: http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/28126/3/
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Gameplay mechanics: Because this is a slightly different type of theme, I will relay gameplay mechanics up front. All standard mafia rules apply to this game, with no special lynching rules. The only exception to that is "copy/pasting role PM" rule. I don't care if you do that, since every role in this game is a role that has been used before, there is no set structure to PM.
In fact all roles in this game will say this exactly: "You are ____'s role from _____'s _____ Mafia. Your role: "Copy pasted role PM here" And then a link will follow with the endgame or thread that the role was originally posted to.
There are only two major mechanics of this game. The first is that there is a major difference between how town and mafia role PM's were selected, something that both affiliations will not have in common. Mafia were encouraged to fake claim because of this, and were not told what the thematical difference was. The second I will tell you. No character (player) was used twice in this game. For example, if your role PM says you were ViperKing's role in a game, no other role pm will have a ViperKing role. So it is possible to "CC" someone essentially.
With that said this is a bare bones open setup 11 player game, 2 mafia, 9 town, and no third parties. I hope you all have fun and enjoy! #DDOTHROWBACK!
Living Players
1. SA
2. Supadudz
3. oromagi
4. DD
5. iLikePie5
6. drafterman
7. waterphoenix
8. Bullish
9. Greyparrot
10. Singularity
11. speedrace
With 11 players, it 6 votes to reach a lynch!
Day phases will be 72 hours long. DP1 ends on 1/30/20 @ 10am CST
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cutting two slots and rebalancing. We will go with 11. Role pms out soon.
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1. SA
2. Supadudz
3. oromagi
4. DD
5. iLikePie5
6. drafterman
7. waterphoenix
8. Bullish
9. Greyparrot
10. Singularity
11. speedrace
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@Discipulus_Didicit
SA was, and he was a judas. SMH
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1. SA
2. Supadudz
3. oromagi
4. DD
5. iLikePie5
6. drafterman
7. waterphoenix
8. Bullish
9. Greyparrot
10. Singularity
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@Speedrace
Sometimes it would be wrong. Like when you suspected Disc for having a comedian role different from Supa's.
Drafter also came in shortly after and corrected that, if I am wrong it would have been my fault for pursuing the faulty logic though.
It would be dumb to let you vote him simply because you forgot that Supa was the one to change the mechanics
"Let you vote" that's the problem with that statement, the mod's job past designing the game is simply to let the chips fall where they may and post vote counts. Extending NP's in hopes someone changes their night actions, while mild, is technically bastard modding too. None of this is a big deal, and these mess ups weren't as blatant as supa's in his game, but they got close to reaching the same realm IMO.
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1. SA
2. Supadudz
3. oromagi
4. DD
5. iLikePie5
6. drafterman
7. waterphoenix
8. Bullish
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@Bullish
First of all, mods need to learn this: you DON'T TALK ABOUT GAME MECHANICS IN THE THREAD, if someone has a question about their own role, you PM them. If someone asks about roles "hypothetically," you don't answer them.
Agreed. Ignore your players. If they want to make inferences out of your silence, the result of that is on them.
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@Speedrace
I've never seen supa own up to messing something up in game. If there is a loss, its undoubtedly because such and such was an idiot.
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@Danielle
@warren42
@airmax1227
interested?
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@Greyparrot
@David
@Barney
@Bullish
@Singularity
Interested?
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My impulsive nature was very tempted to hammer drafter based on a flip flopping gut read but I stifled the instinct in favor of logic and reasoning.
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BTW, may this forever stop the argument that drafterman isn't past bussing as mafia. Lol I think we argued about this hardcore in the office mafia.
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@Barney
Please never so many posts in a single day again...
You can blame the lynching mechanics for that. Under normal circumstances DP1 would have ended when GP was lynched like 300+ posts in. We had to wait on warren and everyone to get on and vote, so people were just posting in the mean time.
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@SirAnonymous
That is how I felt about winning as lyncher too. I was legit gonna fess up instantly. I went to the dark side and played to my win con, because I knew I was gonna be very non contributive rom thursday til Saturday, and felt like getting the win out of the way would excuse my inactivity and lack luster attention paying-ness.I didn't want to win as Judas. It was boring and felt slimy. I actually had to argue with myself to convert myself to play to my wincon in DP3.
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GG to all, fun and crazy game, even if the balance was off. Any game that gets 1000+ posts goes to the records.
Props to SA for at least trying to help town instead of taking the easy win earlier.
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Were you guys told of a judas or did you guys just pick up on it
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@ILikePie5
Drafter was like the main lynch target for this dp were you even caught up
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@Bullish
Hopefully he will have it down by the time its his turn to host again. He gets inexperience as an excuse
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@ILikePie5
Why not opt for a self lynch earlier then?
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@ILikePie5
You don't know that. Next dp results and actions would have opened a lot of POE. By the end of this DP I didnt have any confirmed town reads.
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Kind of funny seemed like SA genuinely wanted to help town but we forced his hand
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@ILikePie5
If would have been nice to have more than 1 mislynch to figure it out
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@ILikePie5
Oh you have no room for bragging in this balance lol.
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So there was 3 scum and a potential 4th with a 3rd party? 1 mislynch and lose town game. Sounds balanced lol
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If SA is scum DD is not clear. Though it will look good for him
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@SirAnonymous
Well you keep saying your willing to test your claim, and we just get this out of the way and can you help us by voting yourself? I respect that you stuck to your guns earlier, but your innocence will always be in question til we get this out of the way. Don't make us wait on warren's inactive ass, vote yourself please
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@warren42
The decision rests on your shoulders. Make the right one. Vote SA.
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@SirAnonymous
I wanted to lynch scum rather than prove my claim. Lynching me wouldn't have provided much useful information.
It most certainly would have for the rest of the town. While I am glad we found scum DP1, this whole scenario we are faced with now (which if you are town, you should admit is quite a conundrum given it has endgame stakes), would have probably been avoided if you were confirmed early on. We would know you aren't lying about your role, and could easily lynch drafter.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Woudn't the most pro-town thing to do from your perspective be to consider this option as well, and settle for the SA lynch since, if he isn't lying it doesn't hurt anyone and gives you, drafter and ragnar an extra night phase of results/actions?I guess there is still technically the possibility of drafter being town and SA lying in an attempt to get drafter mislynched so we utcould lynch him then drafter just to cover our bases
but I find that scenario unlikely.
Your ready to risk the game on finding a scenario unlikely?
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I'm also thinking, as a mod, why would I make a town player lynch proof? That's negative utility to town, only has pro scum utility. Whereas roleblocker has utility to both town as scum (if drafter blocked the night kill, then that was pro town utility). Speed I think at least attempted to balance this game in a way that had some meaningful interest to him (whether it was objectively balanced can be seen and debated in the endgame), but his inclusion of a lyncher who has to lynch his target before it dies seems like he tried balancing a game with purpose, and there is no purpose or positive utlity to town to a lynchproof townie.
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@SirAnonymous
At this post, you claimed you didn't care if you were lynched to test your claim. Why didn't you just vote yourself? I get pie was already lynched at this point, but you all didn't know that, and your lynch could have town confirmed you and saved you a lot of grief later on
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@drafterman
What was the reasoning behind targetting SA dp1?
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@Barney
@warren42
So if you guys haven't caught up i'll give you a quick break down of where we are at and what needs to be decided.
There wasn't a kill last night.
DD claimed tony stark the comedian whose role actually gives the player the joke results. He targeted GP np1, who was killed, and was role blocked np2.
Drafter claimed hawk-eye, the role blocker who blocked SA np1, and DD np2.
SA claimed he didn't receive a role block message, despite speed confirming all players would receive a message if blocked.
Ragnar claimed to be doctor and protected DD last night.
So we have to decide who is lying, if it's drafter than this looks good for DD and SA (though one could be bussing as DD pointed out).
I suggest we take the safe option, test SA's lynch proof claim and take this thing another DP, because if drafter is town mislynched, the game is over. We will be forced to decide between them next DP anyway if we test SA. If SA is scum and get's lynched were in a very good spot, and if he's town and not lying there is minimal damage, and we gain DD's results, or will get a role block confirmation from one of you two or oro. Lynching SA results in the most information and is the safest procedural move for town. drafter may be scum, but I don't think it's worth risking it until we are forced to with better information.
please, vote SA
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I guess there is still technically the possibility of drafter being town and SA lying in an attempt to get drafter mislynched so we utcould lynch him then drafter just to cover our bases but I find that scenario unlikely.1) As scum SA could have said he was roleblocked to support mislynching me, much less risky.2) Behavior-wise SA is so town it hurts.
3) you and SA are both scum
From a different perspective other than yours and SA's, it makes most sense to do the no lynch by testing SA and figuring out who to lynch tomorrow
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@Discipulus_Didicit
1) I think the fact that he has had no significant wagon on him until now indicates he did get plenty of town cred. I for one had him as town that whole time.2) If he had gotten no town cred it is still plausible to say that he was hoping to get some but just didn't.
I haven't seen anyone lobbying him for being town for the pie read though, and you seemed to think he was town irregardless of you not reading pie dp1.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
good morning. Whats your plan to secure us to dp5?
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