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Not sure whether to be sus of singularity's reaction to speed's roleblock. Seems a very weird thing to try and pin speed for, and if GP was also blocked it could mean singularity is a jailkeep. If this is the case, then that means characters were assigned randomly most likely, with no discrimination between scum and town based on character descriptions.
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@Speedrace
You can be targeted for a roleblock and a night kill at the same time I suppose but grey is saying he was roleblocked?
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oh yeah and for the meme, about toaster:
it's his fault for being inactive
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There's no way speed would be scum and lie about being the night kill target. Makes literally 0 sense from a scum perspective.
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@Singularity
Your protection and him being bullet proof are probably mutually exclusive or have nothing to do with each other. Unless you are saying you know for a fact greyparrot was targeted instead of speed...I protected grey parrot. Speed is confirmed scum for failing
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Btw I will be much more active on monday and tuesday, and i'll be around off an on today.
I am still pretty sus of drafter, and I think his behavior day phase one was pretty bad. These are my own reasons independent of bullishes rather foolish ones. and my reasonings can be found on the first page of DP2 in my reads list. Drafter's sureness of Toaster and trying to use it to gloat by calling everyone an idiot, reminds me of warrens scum play in Virt's game, I always view that behavior as scum.
I am going to try and opt for a drafter lynch today, who is with me?
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@Speedrace
I know I was NK'd because I was messaged that I was dead, but then the mod remembered I was bulletproof and retracted that
Nice play mate.
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@SirAnonymous
Nice, I like that it's got personality and wit, not so dry. Very good.
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I don't over-estimate anyone anymore. I used the "Drafter is smarter than that" logic all of the office mafia, thinking he wouldn't do such as town. I was wrong.If that was true, why would he express that excitement. Drafter is smarter than that and you know it
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@drafterman
I have no problem switching back to toaster, jest want to see if the drafter lynch is possible again. Your excitement about me voting off of toaster, leads me to believe he is a scum power role even more lolDude, even Lunatic abandoned that lynch. Iron isn't getting lynched today, and neither am I.
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toaster gets on and immediately omgus's and sides with drafter. Yep I think we found our scum team. Staying on toast.
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@Greyparrot
If speed is scum then there is no character affiliation discernment, because he is stan and stan/kyle are like bestiesCalling speed/toaster team as Speeed lurked until his buddy got on.
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@ILikePie5
@Speedrace
@PressF4Respect
Don't listen to drafter, vote toaster
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@Greyparrot
I think publicly musing about it isn't the best idea, if you are town the fact that you haven't been killed or blocked means there is likely a lawyer/framer so we don't want to give them any hints. Just cop someone you don't have a good townread on
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Lol Drafter I am gonna talk in circles with you all day. I think lynching toaster is important. You don't. You are probably scum so I don't really care. I am leaving it at that.
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@drafterman
You are likely tomorrow's lynch I am in no rush, also your big defense of toaster almost makes me think he is more likely a potential mafia power role, whereas you are likely a goon for claiming vanilla.
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It still does not make sense that you would choose someone who only might be scum over someone you think is definitely scum.
So you ackowledge there is a reason to lynch toaster, you just don't like said reason or agree with it. Awesome. Moving on.
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@drafterman
This game, the one right after we lost to greyparrot who was purposefully inactive as scum.Can you show where your stance has ever been to Lynch inactives over scum?
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Pressuring inactives has been a thing since like forever. Definitely not a personal pet peeve lol. It's a widely known and understood pet peeve of mafia. Case in point, greyparrot in JARGOM, and you yourself admitted we shouldn't have let him slide. When did you stance change on the subject, when you got a different affiliation in this game?I agree as a responsibility to be more active. But you're willing to risk punishing town over this pet peeve you have about inactives rather than lynch somebody you think is actually scum and help win the game.
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So you're going to punish town because you don't like what the mod is doing?Sounds like a reasonable thing a totally town player would do.
Why are you acting like you know toaster is town? Only way you'd know is if you were scum.
I am saying if he's town, then HES hurting town through his inactivity. Mod shares responsibility for not replacing inactives, but ultimately irontoaster is at fault here.
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@drafterman
Mod should have replaced the fvcker I guess. It's a double edged sword.Lol. And if he's town then you've given mafia a free lynch
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@drafterman
So inactive trumps scum in your book?
The two aren't neccesarily exclusive, but yes. I am not wanting another GP situation. Mods need to take responsibility and replace a player, otherwise it's in our hands to deal with it as a matter of principal. If Toaster is scum and gets away with the whole game because he lurked, ima smash my keyboard.
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@WaterPhoenix
Your main reason for lynching him is "he won't tell us if he's played mafia before".
Yeah this is pretty much the only reason, is fucking garbage.
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@WaterPhoenix
Your main reason for lynching him is "he won't tell us if he's played mafia before".
Yeah this is pretty much the only reason, is fucking garbage.
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If you know that, then why are you giving him a noob pass?
A I'm giving him a doctor pass, seeing as he is our fucking protective role.
Why do you want to Lynch and inactive over scum?
I'd rather lynch you but toaster doesn't get to sneak by in the shadows without voting, or even having any reads. Either the mod replaces him or we lynch him
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Whats singularity going to come out about?You want to lynch an inactive over scum. And I want to pressure Singularity to come clean and for you to stop giving him a noob pass.
"Oh you got me I am not new"
We already knew that. Doesn't mean he is scum.
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Drafter is okay with irontoaster lurking and wants to lynch our only protective role lol. He's so scum.
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@drafterman
So because he is playing on an alt he is automatically scum... Cool. Despite being the only claimed protective role and having a strong character claim, I suppose you will try and lynch him. Good luck then.
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@drafterman
Here ("I've never played before") https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3448/south-park-mafia-dp1?page=2&post_number=40He's played before, many times.Here ("Strategy I am 100% ignorant of") https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3448/south-park-mafia-dp1?page=2&post_number=43He is well versed on strategy.
That shows he's lying about his experience because he wants to be undercover, I am still not sure why that would make him scum though.
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@drafterman
So you noticed and replied to me calling him out, agreeing with it, then all of a sudden go back to being undecided? That doesn't make sense.
I agreed with you initially because he ackowledged the existence of some mafia terminology, it was his post saying something about a dreamer and cop being in the game was unlikely that sold me on him not being new. Suspecting it didn't make it true though.
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@drafterman
He hasn't said anything scummy because he hasn't fucking posted lol.He's not even on your scum list, but I am. Yet you want to lynch him over me. That isn't consistent.
You've literally given him a noob pass. You said, verbatim: "I guess you are new so I won't be too harsh on this"
Last day phase when I was undecided if we was new or not.
This isn't about his identity. I don't give two shits about his identity. It's him lying about his mafia experience so that he can avoid proper scrutiny of his actions.
Where?
Nothing you are doing is making sense from a Town perspective.
Your probably scum, so I don't really care.
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@drafterman
You want to squeeze any and all possible information out of the day.
I am waiting on responses from toaster for one. For two, I am only occasionally checking on the game, it happened during my weekend and I got a new video game I am into. I was hoping supa would start the DP during my work shift. I probably would be doing more with the dp otherwise.
Why aren't you concerned about Singularity's overt deception?
Deception? I can see town wanting to hide their identity.
Why are you intent on giving him a noob pass?
Hes claimed a power role, it's not a noob pass. Also butters isn't a particularly scummy claim as I mentioned earlier.
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@drafterman
He's literally made like one or two posts and one of them I remember was fluff. I don't want another lazy person gloating in the endgame about how they were allowed to lurk.
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@drafterman
regardless of a claim his inactivity is inexcusibale. If he's not getting replaced, I'm lynching him.
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Can we lynch toaster? I had my vote on him all day yesterday too, and if he isn't getting replaced hes scum.
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