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@AustinL0926
Sure I’ll give it a try but my activity may be wishy washy
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RIP Ajabi. He was a very intelligent young man, and very kind. I never had a bad experience with him. I hope he rests well and I am so sorry for this tragedy...
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who tf is vader and how does he have so many posts. Religion forum or something?
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That game was a complete waste of time lol. I remember now why I stopped playing mafia lol
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/out not gonna be quick lynched again lol. Dont have time for that, prefer a slower game with my schedule. What a waste of time that last game was lol Just for a no effort gut lynch
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oh shit there was a whole day phase that happened wtf yall just quick lynched lmao
Yeah town deserved that lmao I was so confused how we lost
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@ILikePie5
I also expected Lunatic to push hard on my “mistake” which is the other reason I scumread him
I knew you were fake claiming as town to bait the night kill. Still confused how we lost, thought we would have one more mislynch.
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I am advocating a no lynch, and the analysis is based on POE. There are 6 players left, 2 of which are basically “confirmed”. Earth claims cop, and most games have a cop. Earth claims to have innocent results on pie. Unless there was some fuckery like pie being godfather or lawyered, but there isn’t a whole lot of reason to believe that especially on np1 unless mafia got lucky.
So the remaining four are you, me, mharman and supa. I know i am town. I laid out reasons why I think supa is town. That leaves you and mharman as POE and based on numbers there is likely to mafia meaning that you two are the remaining scum. However with pies plan laid out if we no lynch we don’t risk mislynch if and are guaranteed at least one result as mafia can only kill one or the other, so the VTNL is basically a more conservative way for us to go into the next phase with a higher chance of hitting mafia. Chances are results can clear one of the four of us or on-site one tomorrow.
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I don’t really have the time and availability for this like I used to but playing with white flame Barney and siranonymous sounds too good to pass up
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willing to go with the result plan but sssuming nothing comes from it I will probably advocate a lynch on mharman or Austin tomorrow
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@Mharman
Because I think mafia doesn’t try to focus someone with an innocent result on them, they are more likely to focus between the other 2 mislynch candidates. From sup as POV if he’s scum then he knows who is other partner is and he still can try to mislynch two people between me Austin and you. Yet he focuses Pie? They only need one more mislynch to win. Doesn’t make sense as a mafia strategy to go after pie IMO though it could be a big brain move. Seems more likely to be genuine to me
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supa going after pie is a town tell for me lol im now leaning austin and mharman
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If pie is scum I think scum win. I’m kind of lazy this game so I don’t have time to delve into crazy behavioral analysis, might just stick to the “keep it simple stupid” idea for now and bank on pies investigating plan tonight. But if we do lynch I would like to lynch one of supa or mharman I think, though I guess I wouldn’t be incredibly opposed to Austin either based on POE I’m just giving him town cred for the mislynch because I don’t think a noob would attract attention to themselves like that it’s pretty bold
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@ILikePie5
So if we no lynch mafia basically has to choose between you and earth right so unless there is a role blocker we guaranteed get a result?
Is that the logic for the no lynch?
I have a hard time believing there is a role blocker, I feel like they would have just roleblocked the doctor and killed someone else if so but if they roleblocked a vanilla I guess we wouldn’t know.
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Not sure how I feel about Austin. Kind of back and forth on him, he almost seems too knowledgeable which strikes me as sus for some reason, but I town read him for the badger mislynch because I think it’s kind of bold for scum to try that and I don’t see anyone as scum doing that but maybe pie? Given how new he is I think he’d take more of a wagon approach but at the same time also not entirely sure he is new.
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Second thoughts on the no lynch. If we no lynch one of the three town confirms just gets killed and we still stand in the same position we were in before.
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@ILikePie5
Okay guys, this post by Wylted is rather odd. Why single out Korea when Austin is technically a noob as well. It’s mod psyche but this means that there’s something here.Also based on how Korea has been interacting, I don’t really see the signs of being a noob that much. More like a seasoned veteran coming back from a hiatus
I agree with the bolded, the mention of third parties in their first game stood out to me. Doesn’t necessarily mean they are scum but yeah I’m not entirely convinced they are new.
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It’s a common scum tactic to “town lock” players easily like that. With inside information, scum will try to use townlocking as a manipulation tactic. If said individual is mislynched or revealed to be town by way of role or results, the mafia can spin it by saying “see I told you so” in an effort they think will earn them town points.
Ironically I think koreas commitment to town read him makes him look more townish and Korea more scummy. Anyways I will keep my vote where it’s at for the time being though because I’d like more content from him as a new player.
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@badger
Best.Korea reads very town anyway.
I think this deserves a better explanation, for sure.
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@Mharman
Forgot to include in last post:@lunatic I don’t know of any times noobs were specifically chosen for one affiliation or another. I know I didn’t do any of that if a noob was in one of my games. I think that would just make the game too easy for town, knowing they could easily predict a noob’s affiliation if that were the case.Also, I researched old games in my first game, and I was town in that one. Maybe I’m an outlier, but I think that has more to do with play style than affiliation.
My intro to mafia was different I suppose. I felt like I got handed scum a lot more as a noob. But yeah I think that depends on the mod and something about wylted strikes me as him putting noobs as mafia.
Anyways I’m not saying the guy is scum I’m just applying pressure based on what little has been provided thus far. At the very least this is generating some discussion and activity.
Do you think he is townier from that post or scummier? Or was it null? What are your thoughts on korea being hard sold on him being town?
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@Best.Korea
He did say he considers it gay. The only possible clue from that is that users were divided into town and mafia according to their usual behavior on the site.
What? He clearly said there was no theme, no clues to be seen from that lol.
"Scouting old games to learn" applies to all new players, not specifically mafia players. However, I would assume that mafia player would be more likely to seek advice from his mafia companions, rather than publicly declaring he is looking through archive to learn how to play.
You didn’t, you were asking questions and even pointed that out, this using the current player pool as a resource. I just feel like I’ve seen the “researching old games” line before and usually I doubt people are actually doing that and already have some inside information and use it as a scapegoat for when they later come back seeming knowledgeable about things. If he is with a user in the mafia discord who has played before for example that user can answer any and all questions easily.
However, I would assume that mafia player would be more likely to seek advice from his mafia companions, rather than publicly declaring he is looking through archive to learn how to play.
That’s what I’m saying though, I can see someone using the public statement about researching games as a scapegoat, whereas you just did it without said announcement. His later behavior will be an indicator but since we’re openly talking about it he might change it up.
Either way I don’t see why you have him so town locked.
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@Best.Korea
Just curious how do you even know what a third party is?
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VTL austin, I’m guessing wylted probably gave one of the noobs to the mafia team. Seems likely in most games with new players that mods like to throw them into the fire to help them learn. Would be interesting to see some statistics done on that at some point.
Austin feels like a better starting point because of his post about doing research, I feel like as a new mafia player you would probably want to scout out old games as scum more than town more to see how other players have tried disguising themselves in a game. Whereas if you were town you would be more likely to use the current player pool as a resource to ask questions. Just an inkling based on gut here.
Anyways as a heads up I probably won’t be crazy active but I’ll do my best. I signed up mostly out of sympathy for wylteds cause of reviving mafia, though I’m not particularly interested in it lately and burned out on it hard last year.
Austin feels like a better starting point because of his post about doing research, I feel like as a new mafia player you would probably want to scout out old games as scum more than town more to see how other players have tried disguising themselves in a game. Whereas if you were town you would be more likely to use the current player pool as a resource to ask questions. Just an inkling based on gut here.
Anyways as a heads up I probably won’t be crazy active but I’ll do my best. I signed up mostly out of sympathy for wylteds cause of reviving mafia, though I’m not particularly interested in it lately and burned out on it hard last year.
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@Best.Korea
I am guessing that town are civilized normal gays, while mafia are some gay warrior outcasts, and 3rd party is most likely none of those two.
Wylted did say there is no theme he’s just calling it gay mafia
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@RationalMadman
You don’t have to be fake nice to anyone, I just think you are misplacing blame on him for no reason man. If the system is broken maybe we should suggest a Meep that fixes things, requires a platform, candidates debating each other, and higher qualifications for voting eligibility or whatever else you want.
I think white flame was just trying to do his best job at being fair and unfortunately no matter what he decided he would severely piss off someone. He was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t but there was no animosity or personal gain from his decision so it doesn’t make sense to blame him for this IMO.
No offense to the other admins but white flame is one of the good ones lol
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Here we go, go easy on me!
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@RationalMadman
Come on man, this isn’t a fair criticism. I actually thought white flame did a good job at trying to be fair here in an unbiased way. I don’t think he generally cares who was president but just wanted to make sure the overall outcome was as fair as possible. I thought his announcement was pretty straightforward evidence of him knowing that this was going to be a controversial decision but that it was the best he could have made given the circumstances.
I understand your probably very sore about the result, but you shouldn’t be. You put up a hell of a fight and it was close, and you will probably get it next time if you run I’d imagine with how active you are here.
Chin up buttercup, but go easy on white flame.
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vote RM since I ruined it for him last time lol sorry bud
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I'm sure the other candidates are fine, I will most likely be dropping a vote for RM this go around.
He is clearly passionate about the website. And he changed his stances on the only issues I cared about. While ultimately I think RM caused his own downfall last election with his moderation stance, I think RM deserves it and probably actually wants it the most. And because it's not actually a position of power that I feel like he can cause great harm with, I think we kind of owe it to him after last time. Me and Mike placed faith in airmax being active and he completely let us down, but RM will certainly not do that.
Mikal also told me he will likely drop a vote for RM come election time. I am not sorry for supporting airmax last election, Airmax didn't end up having the free time he made it seem he initially might have for it, but since we pushed it so hard and what happened, happened, I think RM has earned his turn.
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@ILikePie5
When we prevented RM from becoming President the first time
I wasn't against RM simply because I didn't like him though. I just disliked the cancel culture vibes of encouraging over moderation. His stance on that seems to have changed other than just his normal routine blocking of others. Either way that is a pretty low bar for site greatness lol.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Do the mods still run things by you at all as somebody to kind of prevent hive mind from forming?
I was added to the mod discord ages ago as an advisor. I can offer advice or opinions on things they discuss but it doesn't necessarily mean they do anything I suggest. Most of the time I've used the discord to question ragnar about questionable decisions over the years or to correct a narrative but by any large I haven't paid attention to it much, especially lately.
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@RationalMadman
I will say your platform is way better than last years if what you've said is true. If your not standing in the way of free speech or encouraging over moderation, you are already leaps and bounds a better candidate than before I think you could actually learn alot and grow from the presidency. You definitely have passion for the website.
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