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@zedvictor4
All thanks to heterosexuality, not homosexuality.
People bring up the point that the population is growing so therefore there must be a benefit or goodness of homosexuality.
That's like saying because I didn't get cancer from something that could cause cancer , it therefore must be good or because I have cancer and didn't die from it, the cancer is good, no.
There are elements outside the deleterious things that savage or save or preserve what's left.
But I understand that society including this site is liberal and it's more about whatever makes you happy versus an optimal life.
From sex, to diet, drugs, toxins, etc .
You do make a point that over thousands of years, we've degraded more of ourselves through these elements but ....there are other beneficial offsetting factors that come to the rescue to repair any damage done to sustain us and help us continue to thrive and flourish in spite of anti-human behaviors.
Good point.
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@zedvictor4
Negative is what is labeled when the positive is not detected. Keyword detected. Not talking about what is present.
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@3RU7AL
Could be true depending on the particular point. Best to address point by point rather than generalize.
As far as the ones that are the exception, they are just as religious as any atheist.
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@FLRW
It stirs up their spirit for sure. I got one stirred up on here so bad he don't know what to do. He so bothered by the scripture, the curiosity just grows along with the agitation.
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@Stephen
Acknowledge your error my ignorant one.
Can't resist from responding can you?
You can't do anything about me correcting you and it's stirring up your spirit like Paul in the scriptures.
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@Stephen
@RaymondSheen
Acknowledge your error on the scripture.
You know you made error. That's why you keep laughing at your self. When you're wrong, you downplay it with amusing yourself, you start name calling, getting stirred up.
At this point it's not even constructive anymore.
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@Best.Korea
If you have a nihilistic attitude, of course nothing is bad being anti-human. Abortion, homosexuality, drugs , doesn't matter right.
That's what I thought.
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@Best.Korea
If people can be good or bad according to you, certainly you can.
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What agendas continue to dominate, discriminate, confuse and mistreat minorities?
Is the LGBT the prime agenda?
Controlling, brainwashing people sexually may be the most powerful way to do it.
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@zedvictor4
@Best.Korea
@WyIted
The valid attitude is that it is fortunate, fortunate for all of us that homosexuality is not normal but irregular. Otherwise we be in the same fate of the dinosaurs .
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@Stephen
@RaymondSheen
It's because I'll and we will keep exposing your error in the scripture.
All you can do is laugh at your own folly.
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@Stephen
Nope, never heard of religious education until you contrived it up.
Now you do believe what is written in the old testament, otherwise you couldn't make your case which you also believe is correct but actually is not.
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@zedvictor4
There are cases whereby a negative can be proven.
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@3RU7AL
Do you mean a theist claims what they're saying is objectively true?
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@WyIted
Will homosexuality ever be normal?
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@Stephen
@RaymondSheen
Don't debate me on the scripture, just stay out of it.
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@Stephen
Just like what is written in any book. If I see something is written why would I not believe it is not written if it I can see it written there?
Doesn't make sense.
Like you for example.
You say the name of Jesus is not written in the old testament. You say that because you believe what is written in the old testament. So you'd believe the name itself is not written.
It's just as plain and basic and necessary as that.
Doesn't make sense.
Like you for example.
You say the name of Jesus is not written in the old testament. You say that because you believe what is written in the old testament. So you'd believe the name itself is not written.
It's just as plain and basic and necessary as that.
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@3RU7AL
It isn't, that's the point. Atheists believe they are different in that regard, they're not.
Thank you.
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@Stephen
I have made no points you can refute, you're correct. That much you got right.
You're still playing semantics with names because you know that's the only ace up your sleeve.
But if I ask you who was Christ Jesus ,who would you say he was?
Don't answer that because you'll get refuted again.
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@Stephen
I believe whatever is written in the scripture I believe is written in it like whatever is written in an algebra book I believe is written because well, it's written there.
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@3RU7AL
The answer to why an atheist believes no God exist is based on his subjective experience.
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@zedvictor4
We can identify and differentiate. We have labels to communicate what we're identifying and differentiating.
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@Stephen
I think you were one of the ones that was in error about the old testament not prophesying about Jesus.
I don't feel confident to preach the scriptures because I have not been called to be a preacher. See that's how that works. The scripture also teaches that. You have to be a God called sent preacher first.
So you can continue to interview or psychoanalyze me. Doesn't refute my points comrade.
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@Stephen
I don't know. I can just tell you what is written and what is not.
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@Moozer325
Sounds like from what you're saying "it seems like", God doesn't exist because it doesn't make sense or it doesn't logically follow which like I said it's more to it than simply "a lack of evidence" stance.
However this still doesn't suffice as many things exist we don't understand but they do indeed exist.
Eventually we going to have to get to the root of it all, which it is almost always a subjective experience/emotional basis to the individual atheist that has opted to believe a particular God doesn't exist.
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@zedvictor4
Like testing positive for a drug in a test. It's either physically detected or it is not which is called negative.
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@Moozer325
There are many things that lack evidence for us to see. It doesn't make a strong argument to disbelieve.
When atheists say that, it's more to it than it. It's just easiest, shortest route to summarizing their position.
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@3RU7AL
By why believe any god doesn't exist?
If an atheist is unconvinced that any god doesn't exist, why believe that any god doesn't?
This is why atheism is more on the religious side and classified as such. It's not a neutral ground and it takes a stance of positive and negative.
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@Best.Korea
You'd have a point if atheism didn't exist. Maybe if it didn't, we wouldn't have all that mess you brought up.
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@Stephen
Depends on what you mean by rely on it.
I don't rely on it to do algebra.
For instance I rely on it in circumstances where I correct you on your error about it because what I rely on is written.
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@Stephen
As in agree with what is written, yes.
If a book says a particular word do I agree that word is in the book?
Yes as it's in the book. If I disagree I'd be lying or ignorant about what's in it.
It appears you didn't know about these certain scriptures I'm broaching.
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Being that proving a negative is next to impossible according to atheists, what is the sense in being an atheist?
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@Stephen
Scripture says scripture is not broken. That's what it says. Now if you don't think it says that , challenge me to show where it's written.
Otherwise, stand down.
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@Stephen
I don't know what you mean by religious education.
Are you talking about being in all that theological study like going to cemetery schools?
I think it's seminary, right , seminary school.
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@zedvictor4
I could challenge you on what you said but I forecast us going into circles.
So I'll say I respect your view on the holy scriptures.
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@Stephen
Integrated means connected. Not broken or separated . Do you get it? The old testament is connected to the new . Things prophesied in the old fulfilled in the new .
By the way I'm not claiming the scripture is not broken. I'm telling you what the scripture has said.
If you're going to discuss or dispute the scripture, you gotta learn what's in it .
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@zedvictor4
I don't get into that. The scriptures are not a science book.
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@Stephen
Go back to my explanation and quote it for me, all of it. Then pick out a word in there or two that you're struggling with.
I answered your question but you appear obtuse, no offense.
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@TheUnderdog
I so far haven't given any opinion but I got you.
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@TheUnderdog
Nah you don't know. You believe it. I understand, you strongly believe in, trust in those working the verdict.
Just strong convictions and beliefs just like any other religion that consists of such.
I think you mentioned politics. The political parties, alternate religions
I respect your opinion on God or gods by the way. The way you feel where you are is what it is.
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@TheUnderdog
At the end of the day, you're still believing and trusting in others without being in the jury yourself, having all the superior access to the so called evidence, etc., seeing things for yourself.
It's similar with just believing and trusting of others testimonies. For example, testimonies of the apostles.
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@TheUnderdog
Ok well that's different, a teenager falls under the category of minor.
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@Stephen
Like I said, people are not to worry about what they think are contradictions.
The problem is people lack understanding of scripture. Even atheists that understand scripture know this.
If you don't understand it, you think it's just a contradiction.
You barely understand me so what do you say? I'm a contradiction .
Yes we see the pattern.
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@Stephen
Anyway, when something is not broken, it is connected. It is integrated. The old testament is integral to the new and vice versa.
Regardless of what you think you understand, the old prophesies the new. The new has fulfilled the old including the arrival of Jesus Christ according to the scriptures.
This was my explanation of that. What are you not understanding here?
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@zedvictor4
Yes you're giving you're opinion on things for others to be open minded to . Not so much adhering to the objectives of the center topics of discussion.
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@Stephen
Scripture also teaches stir them not up.
Anyway, when something is not broken, it is connected. It is integrated. The old testament is integral to the new and vice versa.
Regardless of what you think you understand, the old prophesies the new. The new has fulfilled the old including the arrival of Jesus Christ according to the scriptures.
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@TheUnderdog
Is the daughter a grown woman or minor?
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@Moozer325
For you I wouldn't worry about the so called contradictions.
Until you have faith and understanding it's all in vain.
But according to the scriptures, it says faith coming by hearing the word of God.
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