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@ILikePie5
This was by far the best mafia game we've had in a long time. Good job Pie. And good job everyone who contributed.
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@drlebronski
Have you been sent your results?
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Also going to point out how incredibly sus it is Earth came out of the void as soon as the 2nd scum was lynched and is now posting before the game mod can even ping users to join the DP.
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VTL Earth.
Simple POE leads to SCUM being between Earth and Drlebronski. While both are viable scum candidates, Wylted advocated a lynch of Drlebronski late DP1 and early DP2... Earth is clearly more likely here. Drlebronski's dreamer claim makes me wonder, but if Earth isn't SCUM we can lynch him afterward anyways...
5v1 now...
Mislynch = 3v1
So we have one more DP after this one even if we get it wrong.
Simple POE leads to SCUM being between Earth and Drlebronski. While both are viable scum candidates, Wylted advocated a lynch of Drlebronski late DP1 and early DP2... Earth is clearly more likely here. Drlebronski's dreamer claim makes me wonder, but if Earth isn't SCUM we can lynch him afterward anyways...
5v1 now...
Mislynch = 3v1
So we have one more DP after this one even if we get it wrong.
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@oromagi
Possibly. There could be 3 SCUM with this many players, but it partially depends on how loaded Wylted is role-wise... If he's a JOAT for example, may only be 2 scum.
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@Polyglot
Yes, and next DP may be just as fast. We've got a solid TOWN bloc here.
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I watched lunatic. I did not see oro visit him, but I saw whiteflame visit him.
As if the guilty result weren't enough, Wylted is blatantly lying here. Not only do we have Polygot's non-movement report that Whiteflame concurs with, I know for a fact Poly is innocent. Whiteflame did not move. Wylted is trying to get a mislynch.
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Well, that was easy. TOWN wins. I am the COP. I investigated Wylted. He is Guilty.
VTL Wylted.
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Current lineup:
1. Drlebronski
1. Drlebronski
2. Whiteflame
3. Wylted
4. Oromagi
5. Greyparrot
6. Earth
7. Lunatic
8. SupaDudz
9. MisterChris
10. Polygot
Now to eliminate my HARD-TOWN reads...
Drlebronski is clear noob town. GP and Polygot are both confirmed in my book.
Lunatic is confirmed... (Quick note on Lunatic, while he is capable of pulling off some incredible bussing feats as scum and has done that before, he wouldn't initiate such a gamble from the start of DP1 and push it to an immediate lynch, especially with Badger having such a valuable role for scum. At the VERY least, he'd want to milk Badger's role for as long as he could as scum... Lunatic is literally TOWN confirmed. Supa's "neutral" read is a load of crap)
Now to eliminate my HARD-TOWN reads...
Drlebronski is clear noob town. GP and Polygot are both confirmed in my book.
Lunatic is confirmed... (Quick note on Lunatic, while he is capable of pulling off some incredible bussing feats as scum and has done that before, he wouldn't initiate such a gamble from the start of DP1 and push it to an immediate lynch, especially with Badger having such a valuable role for scum. At the VERY least, he'd want to milk Badger's role for as long as he could as scum... Lunatic is literally TOWN confirmed. Supa's "neutral" read is a load of crap)
Oromagi is focused too much on assisting town to be scum. As scum he usually just drifts in the void, and isn't nearly as engaged.
So what are we left with?
2. Whiteflame
3. Wylted
6. Earth
8. SupaDudz
Now to eliminate my LEAN-TOWN reads...
Wylted is usually a lot more focused, brazen and active when he is scum. Frankly, I think playing scum is where he derives his pleasure from the game.
Whiteflame has been a pro-town force to the point that I doubt he is scum even though I know he is capable of blending into town pretty well...
6. Earth
8. SupaDudz
Ultimately, we're left with Earth and Supa.
I've thought this over, and really the only thing that kept Supa TOWN in my eyes until this point was the Strengthener claim and his general meta of not wanting to lynch DP1, otherwise I agreed with Lunatic... Now his reads are nonsensical and I find out his justification is, frankly, a load of crap....
So think about it: what kind of partner would let their scum partner screw over the team within DP1? One that wasn't very active and/or wasn't exactly "calling the shots."
Both of these guys make sense for being a scum partner for Badger in that sense. Supa and Earth were AWOL and I wouldn't be surprised if they were both scum with Badger.
VTL SupaDudz.
He's our best option at the moment. Earth is a gamble but Supa isn't.
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@Vader
Please explain how Lunatic & Polygot, both practically town confirmed, are "neutral?"
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@Lunatic
My justification I mean "because of all this you are _____" or something along those lines
I don't have that statement, just a large blurb of context that makes it pretty clear why I am what I am
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@Lunatic
He's saying this after the flip... DP2.
I didn't use my role last night. I needed more information in order to use my role properly because I can only use it a certain amount of times and to use it at NP1 would be silly
I just realized that badger was a Roleblocker. This might render my role useless now
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Polygot's claim and role are confirmed. I did move last night. I won't specify what I did.
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@Lunatic
But this pings me more as scummy because at this point badger looks like a lost cause. You explicitly telling people not to hammer looks like a last ditch effort to delay the game til he wakes up and is able to claim so you can use that as an excuse to waffle your vote or unvote entirely. Because none of the "reasons" you listed for scum reading badger sound anything like how his behavior actually was last day phase.
This is fair, but I think Supa might just default to "pressure until claim" each DP1. In fact I'm pretty sure I've heard him say he doesn't like to lynch DP1 at all before... Can't say for certain on that one though. We'd have to scroll through his tens of thousands of posts.
So anyway, while I think your point is valid I also think the fact Supa has such a reasonable claim helps him out. I'm waiting though to hear what his justification is.
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@Greyparrot
Earth gives me bad vibes.
...that's all you've got? Any reads on literally anything else that's happened while you've been AWOL?
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@Vader
But if scum have a roleblocker, it would make sense that as a counter that town would have a strengthener to counter that. Mechanics 101
Gonna agree with Supa... his claim makes sense. For now Supa stands in my "lean TOWN" pile.
Still... Supa, what was your justification for being Strengthener?
Still... Supa, what was your justification for being Strengthener?
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I'm heading to work but will post some reads later... Got to process all this info lol.
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@Polyglot
I feel as though badger initially added chris to his list of suspects just to make Chris appear less scummy in the event that he was lynched. Badger pushed for Chris to give info in the beginning of the first day phase but it wasn’t such strong pressure like his other suspects. In fact, badger kept pushing for me to get lynched in most of his posts. Nearing the end of DP1 I feel as though Badger put his last vote on Chris as a means to make him seem innocent. So I’m curious to hear what Chris has to say about all of this.
The problem with your theory is that I was on Badger from the beginning, before it was ever clear Badger would be in danger of being lynched. I assure you, as scum, I'm not so stupid as to bus my partner within the first few pages of DP1.
Moreover, Badger's tunneling on me was so severe and consistent it's clear he was just fishing for a mislynch/distraction from himself, which backfired tremendously.
If anyone has some explaining to do, it's you, though. You've been AWOL. How come?
If anyone has some explaining to do, it's you, though. You've been AWOL. How come?
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@oromagi
wylted's hammer doesn't exonerate him much but he sure goes back and forth with badger a lot
I've played scum with wylted. He is all about high risk.
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I think the key to this DP is analyzing the interactions of DP1... Who was defensive of Badger? Who was on him from the start? A good mafia bus is always a possibility too, although I'd think the mafia team would've rather not had to do that DP1 ideally... So I think we can expect the other mafia members to not have jumped on the Badger train until late DP1
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@Dr.Franklin
tough one. I know how to solve the white side of the rubik's cube, but none of the others... If we're assuming I can't ask others in the prison for help/can't consult any outside sources, I'd opt for the year.
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@badger
Do you have a better option for me?
Yes, it would be you claiming.
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@Wylted
It's notable but I'd rather keep pressure on Badger until next DP. While I'm not extremely confident about Badger's lynch since he just seems like the "scummy type" in general, he is by far our best imo... I also think drlebronski may just be reluctant to act in order to avoid being "sussed," which is how I was when I first started.
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@badger
I did not lie. I was making a joke. If that's not an obvious joke, I don't know what.Maybe you guys have never heard a Paddy Irishman joke though.
You yet again flip-flop, you dare try to blackmail votes, and yet you continue a baseless case against me?
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@badger
But Chris' vote is the worst possible vote.
How do you mean?
I voted you because you lied.
You, page 3:
"I got the Moderna vaccine today and I'm experiencing strange drunk-like side effects, as if I've ten beers drank, so I'll not be contributing much tonight. "
You, page 5:
"No I was very drunk lol. Maybe that's the lie you picked up on.I did get vaccinated also though."
Conveniently, your flip-flop was within 1 min of Lunatic catching an inconsistency in your story.
Lunatic, page 5:
The first bit of that is complete nonsense. I was hammered drunk lol. I tried to read a bit and give up.I thought you said you just felt hammered drunk because of the vaccine!
I read this as a scramble to cover up lies with more lies. I will admit, this is a weak read, but it is DP1 and I intend to give pressure where it is due.
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Due to an overflow of toxicity on this thread that I imagine will only get worse, it is being locked as a preemptive measure against major CoC violations.
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@MarkWebberFan
I like your transparency concerning your love of Mark Webber.
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@oromagi
Without revealing your battles, I would like to know if anybody's battle is NOT on this list:
My battle is outside this list.
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@badger
Out of Game Influence.
Nevermind, you don't have to answer the question above.
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@badger
No I was very drunk lol. Maybe that's the lie you picked up on.I did get vaccinated also though.
I smell fish. VTL Badger.
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@whiteflame
How many of us have battles that the Romans won?
The Romans won in my battle.
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@whiteflame
but Greyparrot's claim was on my shortlist for battles that were pretty much guaranteed to be in this
Great! Can you provide this list here?
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@Wylted
It's 3 fucking choices. How hard can it be to figure out which is your thing. If you are good at math you do engineering, bad at math doctor and if you are an ashore, lawyer. Fucking easy as fuck to determine your life goals.
You have an interesting sense of humor
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(I was at work from like 2-12 which is why I'm only getting on now btw)
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@oromagi
drafterman's role list is locked.
what were you checking his role list for?
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@Wylted
Cryptography is cheating. Please reprimand oro
Not in the least. It's a form of soft claiming Oro does.
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@Greyparrot
I am town magistrate.
What is this role?
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@Nyxified
Probably this one between myself and Speedrace. I was debating in Devil's Advocate, something I don't do much. It doesn't help that most literature favors the PRO side... I had to research my butt off.
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@RationalMadman
Was thinking the same thing. I would like banners as well
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@Theweakeredge
You're strawmanning me. I never once said the government should never take moral sides on anything ever in our schools. I said the government should not take moral sides on this particular issue other than to say it is "OKAY" to be LGBTQ+ under law.
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