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@Zaradi
Just to let you know that if you are watcher, then those were Sir's results, not Pie's.
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@drafterman
Is the recipient of the the redirection notified of the redirect?
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@Lunatic
If I redirected Zar to Sir, then there's no way that he visited Pie.
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@Dr.Franklin
What about the Schutzstaffel?
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@Dr.Franklin
Forced conscription doesn't make someone a hero.
It makes someone who is fighting purely because they don't want to die.
My point is, intent is very important to look at.
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@Dr.Franklin
One is voluntary...
The other isn't
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@Dr.Franklin
@DynamicSquid
Also there's a huge difference between voluntary service and forced conscription.
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@Dr.Franklin
sure remember a fucking pope was a german ww2 soldier
Really?
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@WaterPhoenix
Water is incredibly racist. Did you know that global warming is expanding the ocean water so it will cover coastal cities? This will disproportionately affect poor people, which refers to blacks and Latinos because white people are never poor thanks to institutional racism, who can't afford to move inland. Consequently, water is racist. Just you wait! "Rising sea levels destroy world. Women, minorities most affected."
WATER CEASE YOUR RAAAAACIST ACTIVITIES IMMEDIATELY
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@DynamicSquid
Were the members of the Wehrmacht heroic?
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<br><br><br>1. How is redirector a "negative role" for town?Causes confusion within town
If I give my reads at the beginning, then there is nothing confusing about it.
2. A negative result doesn't confirm affiliation, since you could be lying about role and still have the statement be true.This works for everyone, what’s your point?
That means that Zaradi is not confirmed, since the report works for everyone.
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@Zaradi
Saying that someone is scum and providing vague/non-existent reasons to back it up is in itself scummy.Again, this isn't a debate. Mafia isn't a game of logic where if you're winning on your centennial arguments for someone to be mafia, they're suddenly mafia. It's a game of reading behavior and understanding mindstates. You can certainly feel like you "debunked" his reasons, but he still might not believe you.In short, mafia's a game where saying "I got a gut feeling" can be just as compelling a reason as a five page paper on posts and scum tells
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@ILikePie5
I want a lynch, you’re the best option since a watcher is more valuable than a redirector which is a negative role
1. How is redirector a "negative role" for town?
2. A negative result doesn't confirm affiliation, since you could be lying about role and still have the statement be true.
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@ILikePie5
I’m his guardian angel. Zaradi claimed and said he watched Lunatic and got nothing. I want a lynch tho to go forward on POE. A watcher is more valuable than a Redirector in my opinion as well.
That doesn't answer my question. As Sir himself said, just because you're his angel doesn't mean that you must do exactly what he does.
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@ILikePie5
I'm especially curious about why you decided to sheep Sir.
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@Zaradi
So if the reasons that he gave for my "illogical" play are debunked...
He has no basis for VTLing me.
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@Zaradi
He claimed that my play was illogical and gave examples of my "illogical play". I explained how the examples he cited weren't illogical.
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@Zaradi
Then Sir jumps on the bandwagon because of my “illogical play”, despite the fact that I have already covered all of my “illogical plays” that he points out.
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@ILikePie5
Forgot to tag you. Look above.
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Zaradi is not getting lynched today.
And why exactly are you against his lynch?
He did what you asked and gave his results. What else do you have against him?
He said that he would provide reasons for VTLing me after he’s done work. He has yet to do that.
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@Zaradi
Look at what I said in response to Sir’s claim of “irrational play” and then come back.
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@ILikePie5
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@Zaradi
Uhhh, what?
So, Zaradi, who still hasn’t given any explicit reasons for VTLing me, VTLs me because “fuck it there’s no time left”.
Then Sir jumps on the bandwagon because of my “illogical play”, despite the fact that I have already covered all of my “illogical plays” that he points out.
And then Pie piles on top of that wagon cuz Sir does so as well?
So, three people VTL me and not one of them has given a valid reason of doing so.
Scum is definitely somewhere in that wagon.
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@SirAnonymous
Telling the reasons for it would inform Pie of how to avoid it, in the case that he is scum.
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@PGA2.0
So if something is done to a woman’s body that is against her wishes, the perpetrator is immoral. Correct?
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@SirAnonymous
If Pie is lying, it will become obvious by DP2
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@SirAnonymous
Wait, so you just town read Pie...
and now you want a consensus Lynch on him?
Plz explain
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@SirAnonymous
Speed’s claim is coroner. He can see people’s true role + affiliation after they die. I’m guessing that the roles aren’t going to be revealed by mod after death, so there is a way to test the validity of what he says, by whether they are plausible or not.
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@PGA2.0
Just wondering since I have no clue what it is about yet.
Yup, I’ll get there
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@PGA2.0
Would you say that the woman losing the ability to control her own body is a major reason why rape is a bad thing?
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@Lunatic
@ILikePie5
@SirAnonymous
Another important thing to note:
My claim is testable
Pie’s claim is testable
Zar’s claim, unless he voluntarily gives out info (which he evidently doesn’t want to do), is untestable.
Something to keep in mind
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@ILikePie5
Do you get to choose when to use your ability?
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A bomb only kills its killer if the bomb itself dies.
Ok.
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@PGA2.0
Okay! Now is this case against me?
No. It's not personal in the slightest.
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@PGA2.0
We now have our first point:
God (OT and NT God are the same) is a perfect moral being whose unchanging Word not only forms the basis of morality, but whose commands are always moral. Those who disagree/go against his word are immoral.
I will set this to the side for the time being. In the meantime, let me ask you an unrelated question:
Is rape bad? If so, why?
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@drafterman
If scum targeted bomb but bomb is protected, would that kill the scum without killing bomb?
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@SirAnonymous
(especially after the plan between Sir, Pie, and I)What plan was this?
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@Zaradi
Wouldn't I need a reason to lynch you to turn you into a scapegoat?
The only reason you provided that I'm maf is that I "reek of scum". You have yet to elaborate on this.
You then tried to use that vague and unexplained reason to wagon me.
The mafia, as a faction, can have more than one person. Hence why the Lookout role exists. So since there's a town and scum-side to my role, role confirmation =/= affiliation confirmation. Saying otherwise is scummy.
In this game, THERE IS ONE SCUM. You saying this makes me think that you aren't being genuine in your claim.
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@PGA2.0
When I finish building my case, it will reveal itself
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