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@cristo71
You think Underdog got a lot of boob action from women? He did introduce me to the site though. He left.
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@Greyparrot
Isolated incident. I don't care if the guy was stabbed because he's a stranger to me with no power (it would be the same if a MAGA trailer park guy stabbed a BLM activist).
You only care because it happened to a guy whose political views you agree with. If a MAGA guy stabbed a BLM activist, then you wouldn't care.
That's the difference between you and me; I'm principled; you're partisan.
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@WyIted
Our women still have value. They are good at making sandwiches for example.
Lol.
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I'm not the underdog.
Underdog is pro life (I'm pro life, and Trump told a woman to get an abortion that resulted from his sex). I'm pro choice (until the moment of birth).
UD is religious (Why are people tearing down certain statues?). I'm an atheist; I hate all religion.
US supports the US annexing Panama (Should the US annex Panama?). I'm against this.
We are not the same person. I'm just finding random things he said.
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@Best.Korea
No; it's a violation of privacy.
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@Amber
I was going to leave this conversation because you aren't changing your mind, but you accused me of being a coward, so I have to respond now.
You don't even know what a true 'cult' even is.
A cult is a group of people with a cult leader that they will not buck orthodoxy with him on anything (their cult leader is right wing media, which is highly influenced by Trump). It's why you like RFK (because Charlie Kirk told you it would be a good idea).
Supporting conservative ideals
What is the definition of a, "conservative ideal"?
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@Lemming
I am for gun rights in America.
Trump is not:
I didn't agree with the Chauvin trial results
Why not?
I am against a number of transgender policies, I view as being endorsed by the Left,In sports, prison, healthcare, school.
What specific policies?
Republicans bussing illegals to Left cities, and the Left saying they don't want them.
The argument the right made here is, "let states decide for themselves whether or not to legalize undocumented immigrants". Why leave the decision though at the states? Why not the counties, cities, precincts, or every individual household? The most local government out there is the individual.
As I think just massing the people needed for said labor decreases their wages.
If America's population doubled, then the worker count and the customer count both double. Twice as many people brings twice as many customers, which produces the demand for twice as many workers. More people coming here doesn't cut wages for the existing workers.
Ah, I didn't like Biden's excusing of College debt,
I actually am pretty statist on free college simply because I didn't think it's fair that boomers get to have extremely cheap college when they were my age while for Gen Z, it's much more expensive. Treat us the same way.
I didn't like talk of reparations
I don't like it either, but if you were to do something like no income tax for FBAs for 40 years, then I don't agree with it, but it's not that brutal to the Americna people.
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@Vader
That's why you put power on the parents to raise their kid.
I don't want to submit my driver's license to the government so they know what I jerk off too!
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@zedvictor4
Nope, if you want to punish thieves, put them to socially beneficial work.
For every $10000 the government spends in operating costs to obtain prison labor, we get $1 in benefit. Your idea is not efficient.
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@Double_R
If everyone agrees, then passing it should be very simple. A democrat in the house makes the bill; the democrats will vote in favor; if Trump tells the republicans to vote against it; then Harris can use that against Trump and say, "I'm trying to end taxes on tips; but the MAGA Republicans are blocking it because of Trump who is trying to make sure I don't get a win that benefits the American people".
If Trump lets the republicans vote in favor; then the bill should pass very easily and quickly (3 days or so).
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@Greyparrot
Actually, Harris was very tough on the border and leaned into that (and she lost, particularly among Hispanics).
In addition, with 2016 vs 2012, the GOP did better nationwide in 2016 than 2012, but in the border states, the opposite was true, implying that the people that know the undocumented the best that live along the border voted against Trump because of it.
Trump was talking about how bad the border was and Harris couldn't come up with a good argument against it; not because it doesn't exist; but because Harris is a career politician.
Me on the other hand; I've convinced probably half a dozen people who previously were pro ICE to become anti ICE on the border just anecdotally because I rebut their arguments and I largely know how they think on the issue.
In other words, I think I would make a better nominee for POTUS than Harris. I can call myself a democrat to be in the primary if needed (even if I would be a very right wing libetarian leaning democrat; kindof like Joe Rogan).
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Have you ever raped and beheaded any 5 year old?
No.
Now answer my question:
Would you support Trump even if he r@ped your daughter?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I've stated I disagree with Underdog plenty on other threads.
I am not the underdog.
People can have very similar personalities. The UDog and I have similar personalities.
If the UDog and I were the same, then I cannot name a single disagreement I have with the U Dog. I can name disagreements.
One of them:
- The U Dog gets on Islamic homophobia more than a right wing Christian equivalent. I prefer treating them equally; homophobia is bad; it should not be punishable with death whether in the west or the Arab world.
- He agrees with the GOP 2/3 of the time (so Tennessee). I agree with them 45% of the time (so Colorado).
Claiming the U Dog and I are the same person is like saying Tennessee and Colorado are the same.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I'm not reading underdog posts from 8 months ago.
Yes but lies are false, so they don't count.
To you, lie = claim I disagree with. That's a cult.
Have you stopped beating your wife?Have you been cured of dementia?Have you gotten a clue?
I will answer all these questions because I'm not a pussy:
- No; I never started; I don't have a wife.
- No; I never had dementia.
- A clue for what?
Answer all those and I'll answer your out of the blue fallacy of complex question rhetorical diarrhea.
I answered even though I asked first. Now keep your word.
I like RFK; I like Chase Oliver so much that I voted for him. If Chase Oliver r@ped my daughter, then I'd murder him because I respect Chase Oliver; I don't worship him.
I'm not answering and it is precisely because it clearly feeds this kind of petulant nonsense.
No; it's because you're a pussy; the ultimatum is needed because a lot of MAGA people chicken out, and I think you might be one of them.
If someone asked me if I ever r@ped and beheaded any 5 year old, as unlikely as the answer is yes, my answer is no; I'm not scared of the truth here because, well, I've never r@ped and beheaded a 5 year old.
Very unusual (this sentence is said sarcastically).
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@Lemming
Voting 3rd party is fine; I voted 3rd party too in 2024 and 2020.
What's the rationale for the switch?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I disagree with underdog plenty; we're not the same person.
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@WyIted
So they still have to pay taxes for it or live in the societal decay as a result of the welfare state?
The same taxes as any American citizen (ideally). In reality, the legalization process is a tax, basically.
Eliminating the legalization process requirements is a great way to save money and cut costs to the consumer. Running America like a buisiness!
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@ADreamOfLiberty
There is no hypocrisy, democrats are the ones cheating.
You are wrong here, but you have no evidence besides biased news sources and your mind isn't going to get changed, so there's no point in me trying to de convert you from Trump's lies.
That is true, of course figuring out who the tyrants are; leaving that exercise as homework doesn't work out in all cases.
I would say wanting to end elections 'In four years, you don't have to vote again,' Trump says | REUTERS counts as being a tyrant.
To you though, Trump could r@pe your daughter and you would still support him.You heard that through the grapevine?
1. Am I wrong?
2. Would you support Trump even if he r@ped your daughter?
Answer these questions or else I will assume your answer is:
1. No
2. Yes
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@WyIted
Alright, so then those people don't get welfare and if their children die from it, then so be it; I don't really care.
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@Amber
You will not change your mind no matter what I say because you are in a cult, so there is no point in continuing this conversation.
This conversation is over.
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If this offends any MAGA people; then quit being a fragile white supremist snowflake (I don't call white people saying the N word racist; I have a strict definition for racist (ex: thinking the majority of Hatian migrants are eating pets)).
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Why I would rather have my tax dollars go to give free healthcare to an undocumented immigrant family than a trailer park family
The former is actually grateful for the money; the ladder disparages it as socialist.
The trailer parks should lose all their federal funding and their children should starve unless the parents take care of them because they call help to the area, "socialist" as an insult (whether you personally believe it's socialist is irrelevant; they believe it's socialist as an insult).
How is giving free healthcare to undocumented immigrants socialist and doing the same thing to the trailer parks isn't? Either they are both socialist or neither are.
At least the undocumented want the help; the trailer parks have unearned pride.
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I don't think the penalty for theft should be jail; it should be whippings. I don't want my tax dollars going to take care of thieves. Thieves may endure suffering from whippings; but I'm not a leftist, so I don't care. My money matters more than their bodily autonomy to me.
If a leftist disagrees, then it's understandable because they care about reducing suffering; I just don't. Suffering is temporary; often short term, so I don't care if people endure it largely. I care more about funding public schools better than funding people in jail (who are economic parasites).
Fuck Trump.
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@Amber
Sleeping (whoring) your way to the top =/= experience.
100% of Harris's bodies were consensual; not true for Trump.
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@Amber
When you begin on a false premise, your conclusion is equally false.
The premise is true.
If if if if....what if, patent logical fallacy.
False; I took logic as a class; I know.
Taken out of context.
That's always the excuse. You don't state how it was out of context; but it totally had 100% of the context it needed and if this was Harris, then you would be calling her far left.
I have no knowledge if he did or did not take the ACTUAL so-called vaccine.
Look it up.
Your party is a fucking joke; it is a cult of personality, and it's why I left the GOP in August.Psychological projection.
I'm not in a cult; I disagree with Harris plenty (I even disagree with Chase Oliver plenty and I voted for him).
At least you can admit you are a bonafide and certifiable DUMBASS with TDS.
By your dumbass standards, yes; I am a dumbass by the same way Einstein appears to be dumb by people who don't know physics. "Only a fool rants about E=MC^2".
I get likes on most of my posts and you don't. Who's the genuine dumbass?
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@Lemming
I'm not sure that Libertarian means no war.Can there not be circumstances in which declaring war is reasonable,When American citizens are taken as slaves or press ganged for instance?
These are domestic wars.
Is I can imagine some Libertarians preferring the question of certain bans being left of to 'State, rather than Federal government,
Libetarians favor individual rights, not state rights.
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@Greyparrot
Unconditionally, as coming her without papers (while it is a crime) it shouldn't be as ICE should be federally abolished in the name of the freedom position (not supported by MAGA).
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@Greyparrot
If undocumented immigrants get denied food stamps, then also deny it to trailer park trash (and the hood). Be consistent. Where you happen to be born should not matter in terms of how the government treats you.
I personally don't care if people get food stamps because it's not too expensive and without food stamps, there is a very chance that you kill an innocent person.
I've realized just how little economic liberty matters to me (I don't pay much in taxes and neither does most of this site and the people that have more money pay a lot in taxes, but they don't care either because they can take the blow).
I say though that I don't care if the undocumented get food stamps because they are strangers and I don't care if they live or die. I'm no leftist; I'm fine with poor strangers starving if it saves me money (but George Soros saving money is a different case because I'm selfish; I care more about my money than Soros'es).
I can understand and respect (but not agree) with a leftist wanting government paid for healthcare in order to save as many poor people as they can. I just don't agree with it because it's not my moral code; I'm fine with people dying even if it's other people's kids (because I'm not a leftist).
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@ADreamOfLiberty
"Trump apparently wins but TDS/Deepstate refuses to accept the popular mandate".
You were that for 2020 to 2024, so it's hypocritical.
I don't care if there is a Jan 6 done against Trump (because you didn't care when there was one done against Biden).
They kill Trump after he apparently won
Tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of tyrants. To you though, Trump could r@pe your daughter and you would still support him.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
If you don't know what your plans are, neither can the enemy!
If you're calling the never trumpers the enemy, then maybe we should just split off into different countries. Blue America can join Canada; Red America can have Trump be their king.
Deal?
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@WyIted
If you're willing to exchange insults; how do you play this game obese piece of trailer park trash?
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@Greyparrot
What's the point of free college if all you learn there is that you should vote for a woman if someone tells you to?
I didn't learn this in college. I learned Actuarial Science; the wokest and most feminine major out there.
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@WyIted
Trump because he can get more cooperation from others.
That's not policy; it's cult of personality.
You have a TDS (Trump Dick Sucking) addiction. I'm so retarted that I came up with that myself.
You are of no use to DART; you should voluntarily leave the site
I am literally going to college for free right now and not because of the government
If it's military money; that's government money buddy. You are just uncomfterable with the truth.
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@WyIted
You simultaneously believe the most retarded stuff from both sides, so in a way you are a double retard.
By your warped standards, I'm proud to be retarted (by your standards which don't make any sense).
Better retarted than in a cult!
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@Best.Korea
Well, after 47 presidents of USA being all males, only two possible conclusions can be made:1. Women are inferior in some way.2. Great part of voters doesnt want women to be presidents.I am guessing its a 2.
3. Women are less likely to want the job than men.
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@WyIted
I say call these idiots out and prove they are liars and run Candace owens
They will be against her because she supports Hitler whereas the alternative supports free college. Anyone that prefers Hitler to free college lost their fucking mind!
But would you prefer Owens or Trump and why?
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@Lemming
One can be a Libertarian while only supporting part of their platform, I think.
Sure to an extent; one can be a libertarian while wanting to ban abortion if you think it murders a human; same thing with being pro death penalty if your concerns are economic. Nuclear energy is there too; belief in God is there too.
But if you're saying you are a libertarian in favor of war or a libertarian that wants to ban weed, there should be party gatekeeping to some extent.
Banning porn and banning beyond meat are positions no true libertarian holds.
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@WyIted
You are when it's based on retarded premises like a guy who fucks porn stars will ban porn just because the heritage foundation is trying to nuzzle up to him.
It wouldn't be the 1st time he's hypocritical; he wants to close the border even though his wife is an immigrant (not an issue if you own your immigrant wife and let other people move here, but this isn't the case for him). He talks about making America healthy again even though he's obese.
Immigration restrictions should be what they were in the Ellis Island years (minus race requirements, and a lot of others). Abolishing ICE is capitalism; but MAGA is protectionist (similar to socialism; the government picking winners and losers).
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@Greyparrot
I don't care if she said that; it's better than saying, "The Haitians are eating the pets".
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I judge by the content of character; not the chromosomes in a POTUS.
If Hilliary lost, then I get that. She leaned into her gender way too much and people wanted policy instead of identity politics.
Harris did not do that. She ran on, "free breakfast and lunch for kids". Trump ran on, "Banning Porn and closing the border even though we're a nation of immigrants" and, "Haitians are eating the pets".
Waltz had a higher approval rating than Harris and still does.
If I'm honest; I think if Waltz was at the top of the ticket, then Trump easily could have lost.
They say Harris is far left (can't state why except she's from a very blue state, which would make Larry Elder far left and they cite some government study on how people vote while saying they can't trust government studies).
I don't care if she's far left; she's nowhere as extreme as Mr. Jan 6 because she thinks transwomen are women (and what does it mean to be extreme?). Give me a definition, not an example.
Harris'es policies are generally speaking more popular than Trump's.
She ran a much better campaign than Clinton and got demolished (whereas Clinton lost by a whisker).
People just see Harris as soft (which is code for a woman).
Gender shouldn't matter; to MAGA world; it kindof does.
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@Double_R
What this also means is that no one, not even Trump has any idea what his policies will look like, that will be all up to the people he brings in board. And since loyalty (to himself, not the constitution) is his top and probably only qualification it’s a literal wild card where we’ll end up.
Trump does only care about who's jerking him off the most. And those people are Heritage foundation people (people that want to ban porn).
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@Best.Korea
Tobacco and porn do harm others.Second hand smoke. Being more likely to give birth to children with defects.
You can say that about any vice. We can't just ban all vices.
Young people getting addicted to porn and failing in life, neglecting priorities... They didnt consent to be harmed because they didnt know it will harm them.
Yes, so you warn people in advance as young as 5 years old the dangers of porn and premarital sex. You don't ban stuff.
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@DavidAZZ
Let some actual left wingers make their argument instead of you strawmanning them. Some are tagged.
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@Best.Korea
No. If you harm yourself, then it's fine. If you harm someone else without their consent, then it's not.
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Trump: I want no tax on tips.
Waiters: Yeah!
Harris: I want the same thing!
Waiters: Why aren't you doing it then if you agree with it?
Harris: I'm not in charge; Biden is. His brain works fine.
Waiters: Why doesn't Biden comment on the issue (whether or not he agrees)? If he doesn't agree, then he should justify it; if he does agree, then he should pass it since MAGA world and Biden world agree.
How would the blue voter respond to this?
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@Best.Korea
Banning stuff the government thinks is harmful is authoritarian.
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@Best.Korea
He shouldn't.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
If you don't like porn, then don't watch it; don't tell other people what to do on this issue.
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@Mall
I'm going to live in Trump's America; that doesn't mean I support Trump.
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