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@TheUnderdog
I know you (a pedophille) endured a lot of pain in jail. And quite frankly; it's irrelevant.You don't belong on this planet. You should kill yourself; pedo scum.
Rage bait swallowed.
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@WyIted
@Owen_T
Sorry, I've been busy. I'll run over my thoughts briefly.
I think WyIted and whiteflame are probably town due to giving their characters early. Luna seemed townie at first, but the more I read, the more it seems like he's talkig a lot about theory to try and fit in. Don't really know how to describe it, but I will look over his posts more because something about them seems off.
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Looks like scum will get a chance to ask about two roles over the course of the DP
Seems like overkill since we have no reason to believe there's a theme split, and there are infinite characters to choose from as fakeclaims anyway. The odds of picking one already in the game are pretty low.
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An alternate headline would be "Biden negotiates with terrorists." Convincing Germany to release a convicted murderer does not set a good precedent.
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@ILikePie5
@Discipulus_Didicit
@WyIted
@Casey_Risk
@Owen_T
I'll extend the deadline a bit to 8/2. Please ask any questions you can think of.
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@TheUnderdog
I think we should commit a full blown Halocaust against the murderer and r@pist communities because I don’t want tax dollars going to feed them.
Executions cost more money because of all the appeals.
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White paper is actually black, since all the light is reflected.
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White supremacists care more about having a pure white race (don't ask me why) than about eliminating other races. They hate (and enslaved) interracial people as much as they hate pure blacks. So that logic is never going to fly with them.
Interracial marriage over enough generations is the quickest way to achieve an ethnostate, but they're picky.
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@sadolite
Harris will win.
You should bet. Right now betting markets favor Trump, so you'll get good odds.
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@sadolite
I think Trump has a slight edge right now from what I've seen in poll aggregators, and the Electoral College is likely to favor him (even if Harris were up 2 points, Trump would be winning), but it's still a tight race. That doesn't mean the final result will necessarily be close but that there's a lot of variability in polling.
I believe the Supreme Court will decide who is President in the end.
This could easily favor Trump if the court swings the way it did in Bush vs. Gore, but it depends on what Trump's case is. If he alleges a conspiracy to steal the election, they probably won't even accept the case. If it's more of a gray area, the court is more likely to vote in his favor.
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@whiteflame
Oh yeah, you're right. I don't think I could have convinced people to vote you, but I could have tried.
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@whiteflame
@WyIted
The double vote was only 1x, so I needed two genuine mislynches to win. If whiteflame was town, there was no way town would let me live.
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I don't think it's usually disputed that if you take money from the rich, you can afford more things. More often, it's simply disputed whether that theft is justified, and "it's in your self-interest" is probably the weakest moral justification for theft. This is why Marxists use the justification that rich people having things is theft, so we are justified in taking it from them.
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"The personal is political" used to be a common leftist stance, along with calling basically everything political. Then it switched to "abortion is a personal issue, not a political issue" and "climate change isn't political" (despite climate change legislation being very clearly a political issue). I think the big phrase now is "all art is political." I never understood why each generation insists on arguing over the definition of "political," but it's as much a buzzword as any, so I guess it makes sense.
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@WyIted
I think that's up to the university, not him.
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@WyIted
If you need more time I can give it to you, but I would just focus on one subject or look up a summary online.
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@Greyparrot
@Mharman
@FLRW
@Bones
@ADreamOfLiberty
Any questions?
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@Swagnarok
@ILikePie5
@Sidewalker
@JoeBob
Any questions?
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@Barney
@whiteflame
@Mall
@Best.Korea
@WyIted
Any questions?
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Shelly Kagan is a Professor of Philosophy at Yale University. He is best known for his writings about moral philosophy and normative ethics. In 2007, Kagan's course about death was offered for free online. This led to him publishing a book on the subject in 2012. Kagan was elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in 2016. His lectures on death can be found here.
Kagan has generously offered to answer questions and to have his answers displayed publicly. Please be considerate and try not to ask surface-level questions that could be answered with a single google search.
I will stop accepting responses in 48 hours on April 30, 2024 at 5:20pm CST. When Kagan responds, I will post a follow-up thread with his answers.
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Discipulus_Didicit
@Casey_Risk
I don't like the way DD is reacting to pressure by voting for someone else, especially when he seemed convinced earlier that Pie was scum. Once we get a full claim, I'm willing to take DD's accusations more seriously. I would vote for DD, but he's at L-1. Consider this a pseudo-vote.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I found a role called "reporter" on a mafia site similar to what Casey is claiming. There's a slight difference, but that could be due to WyIted altering the role for the game or Casey not giving away everything.
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@Barney
What makes you assume it was scum?
No one has said they did it, so I think we can safely assume it was either scum or a third party.
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Last night I targeted Savant, who did not visit anyone.
This much is true, which makes believe Casey is at least an investigative role. Whether that confirms his affiliation isn't as certain, but I won't try to lynch him today.
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
Given that scum have already messed with roles and might do so again, I'm not sure we should be pushing for everyone and their mother to full claim. I think there are probably general questions we could ask about DD's role before we make them tell us everything.
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@whiteflame
that leaves Casey and DD from where I'm sitting
Have Austin, Pie, JoeBob, and Barney all be confirmed town?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Okay well I uncovered pie as scum so I've done my part.
I don't want to push too many people for claims, but I'd be fine going after Pie for behavior instead of just someone who is being inactive. Right now we've got like three people in the chopping block, so I think we need to come to a consensus before we start pushing for claims.
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@AustinL0926
Not exactly optimal, but I can use it sooner I suppose.
If you fullclaim, I'll help you get a claim from Casey.
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@Barney
WyIted just said you can't place votes on Owen.
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@AustinL0926
I am still committing to my promise that if I haven't confirmed myself by MYLO, then you can launch me into the sun.
If Barney is telling the truth about his role, then by MYLO, it will likely be too late.
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@WyIted
INTENSIVE PURPOSES.
All words are made up anyway.
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@JoeBob
Usually town would have an unlimited lynchproof, not a 1x.
If Owen is scum, we're kind of screwed anyway. We'd have to get his scum partner today or vote for no lynch, and doing no lynch two days in a row is crazy. For all intensive purposes, we should probably operate as if Owen is confirmed town.
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@Barney
I just upvoted recent posts a second time, so the first time couldn't have been me. Also they were liked well before you said Owen needed to show activity.
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@Barney
If not, you need to show even a little activity or else we'll have to lynch you.
All the posts have been liked. Could be Owen.
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@Casey_Risk
assuming that no scum are currently on the wagon and you are town, the scum team could decide to quickhammer you
They're not going to quick hammer before MYLO
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Owen_T
Has Owen posted a single time in this day phase? Given that he's in everyone's POE so far, I'm willing to pressure him just to get him to participate.
VTL Owen
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Owen_T
Has Owen posted a single time in this day phase? Given that he's in everyone's POE so far, I'm willing to pressure him just to get him to participate.
VTL Owen
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@whiteflame
Earth did it in our Recycled Roles game, picking a separate game from his own to throw off town.
I did that too as town for some reason, though it wasn't really that risky given how many games there were.
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@whiteflame
Didn't we have 4 time travel claims and 6 rant claims? If the real number is 5 and 5, it's likely the role swapper claimed their role as rant-related to duck suspicion. I don't see the play for scum, but they could be third-party.
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@AustinL0926
@JoeBob
JoeBob,
I don't see a good reason to vote for Austin, but since you're my strongest town read, I assume you are just overreacting. Though it might be helpful to see if Austin had a reason for voting you specifically last DP outside of just wanting to lynch someone.
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@whiteflame
In that case, JoeBob is probably town. If mafia really wanted to do a weird gambit, JB could have his scum partner swap him, but I just don't see a justification for that outside of WIFOM. That doesn't shrink the POE by much, but it's something.
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@whiteflame
Can a Role Swapper use their ability on themselves? Idk why they would, but is it something they can do?
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@whiteflame
they have a role that automatically overwrites the role of a separate player they target
I remember reading on a forum somewhere about a third-party faction that recruits members to that faction. Vampires or something. Seems weird in a time travel game, but that's the only case I can remember where someone could change another player's role.
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