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@whiteflame
I have a hard time believing that JoeBob would say that he'd become the Silencer if he was scum
He said he has a new role (which he won't specify), which presumably isn't Silencer.
I believe it's most likely that whoever did it is in the time travel camp (he traveled to a new dimension, and I can't see how that has anything to do with a rant), which means PoE is between DD, Austin, Savant and me.
I didn't change JoeBob's role, which means it was either you, DD, or Austin. Or JoeBob is lying (seems like a weird play, so unlikely).
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@WyIted
The numbering for alive players skips 4...
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@AustinL0926
I suspect that scum were one of the people being wagoned before the VTNL.
Who was being wagoned? Barney, Pie, and Joe each had one vote on them the last I saw, but none of them looked like they were being seriously considered as lynches except Barney (who probably isn't scum).
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Read through the thread a second time. I don't think Barney would claim hated as scum. It basically ensures he won't live past MYLO. Unless someone has a strong scum read, not lynching seems like the only feasible option at this point.
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@ILikePie5
Can you explain your vote on Owen a bit more? I don't feel super strongly about him, but he's at least a better option than policy lynching Barney.
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@ILikePie5
Barney is a viable lynch but I’m anti-town for suggesting it?
If he is, it's not for the reasons you said. And even though he's lynchable, I already said I'm hesitant to go after him in that same post.
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@AustinL0926
I town read Owen right now, since they are putting more effort into posting than I would expect as scum. That means viable lynches rn (based on votes) are Barney, Pie, and JoeBob. I don't love Barney being on there, and I think we have room to expand our scum hunt, but I see Pie's behavior as anti-town for reasons I've already stated. I'd like whiteflame or Luna to take a look at his posts and see if they agree.
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Even Trump thinks Kamala Harris should be President
I can't find where the article says this.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Dude I said space our posts out so we don't look like we just talked about it in PM before asking here now it looks super sus.
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@Casey_Risk
Just claim at this point. Even if you're town, your lack of posting is odd.
VTL Casey
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@ILikePie5
I get the math, but how is us killing Barney now better than scum killing him at MYLO? I guess killing Barney now is slightly better than killing a different town member, but it's still way worse than killing scum. Better to have a town vote on our side as long as possible to increase our odds of eliminating scum.
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@ILikePie5
My role is confirmable
How confirmable? Mine is hypothetically confirmable, but it's a matter of luck.
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@ILikePie5
We objectively cannot allow Barney to be alive at MYLO/LYLO because scum can quick hammer.
First let's assume Barney is likely town, since if he's scum he'll be found out in MYLO/LYLO. Your argument is basically "scum will lynch Barney, so we should lynch Barney first."
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@ILikePie5
Find someone better or just go with Barney cause he’s a liability down the stretch.
I’m not voting WF because I think he’s scum. I’m voting him because he’s hard to read + the fact that he failed in fake claiming last time.
It's lines like this that make people suspect you. From my POV, you have moved from null to scum leaning for this (and that's being generous). If you're town, policy lynching is just lazy.
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@AustinL0926
He is locktown never rescind for me. You can consider this a breadcrumb.
I assume saying Barney is confirmed town is one of Austin's weird gambits. Honestly though. I think a reaction test like this is more likely to harm town than help it.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Actually I might have to retract my town read on Owen. I reread his list of facts and I see a lot of repeats. Very suspicious.
This logic seems weird to me. If Owen has a rant role (I'm only vaguely sure of how they work since mine is time travel), then I assume he has to use a certain number of characters or words for it to count as a "rant." If that's the case, it would just be easier for him to copy-paste.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Lying or not I think it might be okay to assume there is at least one mafia in the rant pile
If no one is lying, how is the rant pile special? We could say the same thing about any other random group of six players, since any large enough group is likely to contain scum.
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@AustinL0926
VTL Piefor being an opportunistic buckaroo.
Pie is aggressive as town and as mafia. He largely reads as null to me atm.
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@Lunatic
@Barney
I'll help for the sole reason that Barney has scum read two people already. If Barney has a believable claim, we can take his reads seriously and start to question those two.
VTL Barney
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@Lunatic
@Discipulus_Didicit
I can't tell if you're being serious or not...
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@ILikePie5
I assume you're lie detector or something? Anyway, I am town.
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@WyIted
Bulletproof is usually 1x/2x, correct? And if he knows he will be protected by my coin flip, he doesn't need to use his vest that night. Also, if he didn't get the hint, he could use his vest to be safe.
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@ILikePie5
If he's godfather, he doesn't even need to play the WIFOM game. He could just bring up a totally different character.
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@ILikePie5
My role is "coin flipper," which I'm pretty sure Luna just made up. I didn't take my action last night since I didn't want to gamble with town lives any more than I had to to confirm myself.
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@ILikePie5
If he's actually the Godfather, I don't think he would claim Don Corleone.
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@WyIted
Why would I not be looking through JoeBob's post history to see if he mentioned Earth? It's what we were all doing.
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@ILikePie5
@WyIted
No reason for me not to full claim at this point. I am Anton Chigurh from No Country For Old Men. Each night I choose heads or tails, if my target picks the same choice they are protected from night kills. If they pick the wrong action, they die. My hint from day 1 had the word "heads" in it, which I hoped would be obvious to my target. I chose Owen for counterclaiming Mharman, and he survived. Either he understood my hint or just got lucky, the latter option may be likely since he seemed to not even realize I targeted him yesterday.
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It's not as mechanically obvious given that I am town.
Why do you keep saying this as if it's something we know? If you want to convince us, you should be looking at this from our perspective.
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@AustinL0926
No one responded, and I think I'm overthinking the PM angle.
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Oh, and scum might have a janitor where they could have cleaned JoeBob's role and saved Earth, that they neglected to use here.
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@Earth
@AustinL0926
@WyIted
@Cerulean
The fact that people are buying this is evidence that the role is something Luna would add. Since Earth can still try to talk his way out. We've lose multiple games because scum was mechanically obvious and people overthought everything.
VTL Earth
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Noticed that JoeBob's PM doesn't use curly quotes, whereas mine and Mharman's do. I suspect mafia messaged Luna the fake PM, while the others were written in Google Docs.
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JoeBob did claim he was born 1,000 years ago, which matches Beowulf, for whatever that's worth.
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@WyIted
Luna could have made JoeBob's different on purpose.
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Is anyone else's PM formatted like JoeBob's with the role at the beginning?
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@AustinL0926
Maybe he was just being cautious and wanted to be night-killed eventually. I lean toward assuming the flip is true. If the moderator can lie to us, what can we even trust? It would be a full-on bastard mod game.
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@AustinL0926
If he did that and didn't vote Earth, he would likely get lynched.
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@WyIted
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