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@WyIted
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@Earth
Bro I softed like first thing DP1
Of course you did, so your claim would look more believable later. No reason scum can't breadcrumb a fake role.
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@Earth
A better question is why would Luna lie about making a role like that?
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Hans Landa and I am the Lie Detector
That claim makes sense, but Earth had a lot of time to come up with it.
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@Owen_T
Can you confirm me? Don't give any details, just say whether or not you think I am confirmed.
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@Earth
@Barney
@Owen_T
@Cerulean
See my above message
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@ILikePie5
@AustinL0926
@WyIted
@JoeBob
@Casey_Risk
IMPORTANT!!! Remember the following:
I am confirmable tonight. To whomever I target, your clue will be in the following phrase: "We hold our heads high, despite the price we have paid, because freedom is priceless." You may not know it was I who targeted you, but it is important that you pay attention to this clue when choosing your response, and you will understand what to do when the time comes.
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@Mharman
Why did you turn on Owen when he cc'd you instead of admitting you had lied?
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@Mharman
When did you make that mistake as town? Link, plz.
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@Mharman
So he made the play n his own, but didn't come up with Castro on his own? What?
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@Mharman
And he immediately came up with the Fidel Castro bulletproof connection? Not the first thing that would occur to me in under a minute.
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@Cerulean
Owen's is very believable. The CIA tried to kill Fidel like 100 times and failed.
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The thing about baiting the NK makes sense to me in theory, but it seems like it relies on a lot of town behavior Mharman couldn't have predicted. The justification is weird too.
Unvote for now
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@Mharman
Should have just said you were confirmable.
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@ILikePie5
The premise is right, but read again: he specifically referred to Wylted’s claim. How does he know Wylted is town?
Obvs he means that if Wylted is town (or maybe he town reads him), it helps scum. If Wylted is scum, we don't learn anything. Just because he didn't spell that out doesn't mean his comment is a scum slip.
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No one but Wylted vote. Don't want an accidental hammer.
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@WyIted
I don't have a strong town read on him. Weak at best. Go ahead and vote him if that's what you want.
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@ILikePie5
Your scum read didn't make sense:
Essentially, this comment comes from an informed scum perspective where he knows Wylted is town.
I agree with the comment Mharman made that you scum read. Character claims help scum since there's no theme split. His point was clear. He could still be scum by random chance, but I don't see his comment as an obvious scum slip.
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@WyIted
I haven't done reads lists as of late since they tend to give me tunnel vision. Are you asking because you trust my insight or because you suspect I might be scum?
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@ILikePie5
He's doing what Luna did during the last game. I'm not going to push someone for a role just because.
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@ILikePie5
His utility is already done anyways cause scum now know he has a PR.
Not if doc stays on him. But he might be the doc, and I'd rather scum don't know one way or the other.
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@ILikePie5
Back off Mharman, dude. He's hinted at the importance of his role, and scum would have fake claimed by now. If we don't know it by d2 or d3, or he'll look sus.
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@Mharman
I don't want to put you at L-1 and risk a hammer. Plz claim so we can move on.
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Casey absolutely has a point, and I think she is probably town for this.
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@Casey_Risk
Just checked. He voted like this in the last game, but he said it was because he worshiped me as a god. But then he voted for me when I was accused, so this is probably his normal behavior.
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@Casey_Risk
I don't recall him sheeping to this extent in the last game. I'd expect him to be more sure of himself if he's town again. He'd be new to scum though and might struggle to fit in.
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@Mharman
@Owen_T
Owen ninja'd me by doing exactly what I just accused him of: voting along with another player. I'm townreading Mharman for this and scum reading Owen.
VTL Owen
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@ILikePie5
@Mharman
@AustinL0926
@WyIted
@Casey_Risk
Glad that the day phase is 72 hours. I was afraid I might be lynched for lack of activity, which happened to Austin once, but I think the town learned its lesson from that mistake. Now that I've skimmed through the day phase, I'll give my thoughts.
The scum pool right now is effectively everyone, and with 11 players, trying to work out a POE pool through mechanics this early might backfire. I think it's a strong possibility that Austin is lying about being Don Corleone to try and get a reaction out of scum or something. It would fit his MO and explain why he claimed so early.
Claiming characters or character details seems like a waste of time, since scum can lie to get the upper hand while also trying to identify power roles. (If Austin lied as town, he's on the right track.) But I'd rather focus on behavior. I don't like that Owen voted right after Casey. As Mharman said, it feels like an effort to fit in. I'll go after Owen if anyone else can get a solid scum read on him besides just Mharman and I, since I'm not super sure of his alignment.
Despite not wanting to reveal much, I am comfortable saying the following:
1. I am confirmable tonight.
2. To whomever I target, your clue will be in the following phrase: "We hold our heads high, despite the price we have paid, because freedom is priceless." You may not know it was I who targeted you, but it is important that you pay attention to this clue when choosing your response, and you will understand what to do when the time comes.
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@ILikePie5
@AustinL0926
@WyIted
@JoeBob
@Casey_Risk
Sorry, I had no internet for a few days. I'm going to try to catch up.
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@Lunatic
I said I was going to vote WF if he voted Mharman. Presumably, he thought I was bluffing.
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@Lunatic
No, I would have voted whiteflame and reloaded constantly while being prepared to submit an "Unvote" on my other device. If Earth and Austin had attempted to hammer, they would be confirmed as the scum team. Otherwise, WF is confirmed scum. The reason I would vote WF and not Austin is that I've used that trick on WF before and he wouldn't fall for it twice.
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@Mharman
If WF is scum and votes you, I'll probably be killed at night anyway, so this might not matter. Austin might do something so crazy that it changes my mind here, but I've seen WF play before, and he doesn't usually make huge blunders.
But who knows, maybe one of them will scumslip.
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@Mharman
It depends on WF's vote tbh. Austin's actions could maybe be explained as very emotional behavior. WF has thought way too hard about this to be mislynching as town. If I couldn't get WF lynched, I would maybe settle for Austin. But that's assuming WF mislynches you, which I'm not sure he will.
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@Mharman
If Whiteflame’s the teammate I’m probably dead.
If he votes you and you are town, I will try to get WF lynched tomorrow. Austin is POE, but WF would become my top scum read if he lynches outside POE and is wrong.
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@whiteflame
So you're fine with everyone else on the lynch apart from the person who is clearly the most hesitant to pick a side and is still giving Mharman ample opportunity to defend himself? Sure, that tracks.
Well you're the only person whose vote I can influence, and you have paid a lot of attention to the logic for each person. I just don't see you getting this wrong unless you are scum. If you have a ton of confidence that Mharman is scum, then go ahead and vote him. If you vote for him despite my warnings and are wrong, then you'll have to accept that I'll have you as a top scumread tomorrow.
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@AustinL0926
@WyIted
If Whiteflame hammers Mharman and Mharman is town, I'm down to lynch WF tomorrow.
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@AustinL0926
Town players wouldn't know if Luna was visited or not, so he would have no reason to think that Mharman may have visited Luna.
My ability was redirected from Luna to whiteflame.
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