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@AustinL0926
It could help in late game if we get down to 2 scum vs 2 town, but I'll admit it would be very unlikely for him to live that long at this point.
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If he insists on choosing who we lynch today anyway, I'd rather he keep his power to be able to use later.
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@AustinL0926
Just realized something. Couldn't we vote for whoever Luna tells us to, and then he gets to keep his power for later? Still puts the onus on him to prove his role tmrw.
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@Best.Korea
@AustinL0926
Looks like Earth and I have been accused? Anyway, the lynch is up to Luna. Here are my behavioral reads at the moment, from towniest to scummiest:
Lunatic - Lean town - Claims his role is confirmable today. I don't see Moozer giving this role to scum, but it's possible.
JoeBob - Lean town - Mostly vibes. JoeBob hasn't posted as much as others, but his question about my role doesn't seem like the type of thing scum would be concerned with. He could be coasting on his town cred from theme at the moment, and we know that one of the six claims is likely scum, but his behavior so far isn't the play I'd expect from him as scum.
Austin - Null - Said his role is confirmable but also that it's not really in his interest to confirm.
Whiteflame - Null - I town read him at first, but he asked a few role questions that I saw him ask when we were both scum. He's good enough that I probably can't rely on behavioral reads for him anyway.
Barney - Null - Some fluffposting, but that's how he usually plays. Says his role is confirmable, but he needs cooperation for that.
Earth - Null - Not confirmable, posting a bit more than I see him do usually. But none of this is really evidence of him being scum.
Casey_Risk - Slight scum - Claimed a nonconfirmable role that avoids visits from investigative roles. Then basically disappeared from the conversation altogether. Hence one of the main people I'd suspect of having a fake claim. If Luna or WF had behaved this way, they would be our top lynch right now, and I don't think CR should get a pass just because they are a new player. They could easily be getting advice from a more experienced scum player.
Best.Korea - Slight scum - Has been pushing hard on this theme analysis to clear anyone who has claimed one of the main six characters. Now that we know scum has likely claimed one of the six (BK admits this outright), BK is probably the main suspect for having the strong fake claim. He says his role is confirmable, but I'd want to know how and why before I give him town cred for that.
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@Lunatic
@Best.Korea
Will post reads in a bit. Give me some time to catch up and look back at the day phase.
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@Lunatic
I only survive another day if I am killed at night. So if you lynch me it "confirms" me, sure, but I will also be dead.
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@AustinL0926
Ok, sure. Just kind of confused me on what your position was.
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@AustinL0926
The part about not playing too deep into thematic analysis makes me a little bit uncomfortable.
I would caution against putting too much stock in thematic analysis btw.
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@Earth
Austin has hinted at his role being confirmable but also said a few things that make me doubt whether he will actually confirm it. Luna will likely post tonight.
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All the comments on MSNBC are praising Trump, all the comments on Fox are criticizing him. Lol.
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@Best.Korea
But only if you die, which is a problem.
Yeah, that was a joke.
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@Best.Korea
Or be attacked, technically. I'd still be alive a day.
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@Best.Korea
I'm confirmable, but I need to die first.
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@Earth
@Barney
@whiteflame
@AustinL0926
See above
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@Best.Korea
I am Purah. Justification is kind of mid though. Because I age slowly, I am a bleeder.
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@whiteflame
it would be safer for scum to wait and see that no one else claimed the sixth spot before claiming it themselves.
I guess, but how do you wait without seeming suspicious? If someone claims to be one of the six long after everyone else has, that would get a lot of attention.
I'm not saying it's not a possibility, I'm just not sure how they would do that.
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@whiteflame
Later on, if they had no way of knowing what roles were in the game, the scum would likely fear that the thematic imbalance was a strong possibility. They would therefore be reluctant to claim to be one of the 6. If seven people claimed to be one of the six, it's easy to find the scum.
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If (b) is the case, I think it's more likely scum would have claimed to be one of the six early on as opposed to later. That's unless they had some way of knowing what roles might be in the game.
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@Barney
@whiteflame
@Best.Korea
So far, we have six out of six claims. This means that either
a) Moozer severely messed up the balance, and scum is between me, Austin, Lunatic
b) Scum have claimed to be one of the six.
I will give my character and role if needed, but I don't think (b) is all that unlikely. We'll see how the others feel.
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@Lunatic
@AustinL0926
Are either of you one of the six characters mentioned by whiteflame?
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@Best.Korea
I want inactives to claim first though.
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@Best.Korea
We dont lose anything if we first soft claim if we are one of 6.
Yeah, I'm fine with doing that at the very least.
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I am hoping Moozer messed up the balance for this game, but scum could screw us over depending on their roles.
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@Best.Korea
Wait no...he did say "However I did give them a very strong hint to a role claim."
So they probably weren't given hints in this game, but they could have a role that allows them to see if certain roles are in the game.
So they probably weren't given hints in this game, but they could have a role that allows them to see if certain roles are in the game.
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@Best.Korea
In Invincible they were given a hint but the mod didn't tell the town that.
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@Best.Korea
That way, if those 6 characters are all in game, scum is basically defeated.
6 players saying they are one of the six does not guarantee that. One or two of them could be scum with a hint at a fake claim.
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@Best.Korea
I'm not one of the six. I probably should have said this earlier on, but it's why I doubted that the roles were set up that way in the first place. I can come out and give my character and role if it comes to that, but it's better to get claims from inactive players first.
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@Barney
Does Urbosa being a loose cannon make sense from when you played the game?
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@Barney
@Casey_Risk
Apparently, it's because she can be a bit of a loose cannon.
"Despite her intimidating appearance, Urbosa is a rather charismatic and kind woman, she has a very strong maternal feeling towards Princess Zelda, since she was a friend of her mother, the Queen of Hyrule. She also has a joking side as she often liked to scare people with the lightning she conjured."
Not sure that matches loose cannon, but maybe it's a reference to the lightning?
Not sure that matches loose cannon, but maybe it's a reference to the lightning?
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@Barney
Why is Urbosa a paranoid gun owner (AKA, granny)?
Good question. I haven't played Zelda so I didn't question it, but the wiki on that character really doesn't match the role.
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*players, not characters
My brain is not working today.
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@whiteflame
@Best.Korea
@AustinL0926
It's still a bit early, but I'll give reads on the characters that have posted the most so far and that I feel like I know the best.
Whiteflame - Slight Town - No fluffposting, willing to give information about his role when asked. There's also vibes from when we played together as scum. Whiteflame has been more proactive now than he was then.
Austin - Slight Town - Claiming to have a negative utility role without saying what it is is a pretty bold move this early in the game for scum. He's not trying to blend in at all or seem "normal," which is what he did last game as scum.
Best Korea - Neutral - Seems to be proactive and helping the town, but he also said this is what his strategy would be as scum. Given that I've never seen him play this proactively, it's hard for me to read whether this strategy is a scum one or a town one.
My thoughts on Casey_Risk are mostly based on their role claim, but they haven't posted enough for me to really read their behavior. Also, I don't really know their MO.
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@Best.Korea
I'm not going to start lynching this early regardless. If everyone else seems townie, then maybe we can talk about lynching.
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@Best.Korea
Maybe not a fake claim, but sometimes they are given hints about what characters aren't in the game. Moozer said he would be taking more advice from Pie on this game I believe.
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Also depends how much advice Moozer is taking from Pie.
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@Best.Korea
I think all 4 champions would have to be in the game
It's possible, but there might be some champions who aren't in the game to give scum room to fake claim. Idk if that's how Pie would balance the game, but I wouldn't put it past him. In Invincible Mafia, Mark Greyson was a fakeclaim, so you never know.
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@whiteflame
@Best.Korea
Urbosa is a ballsy claim for sure, but scum players might have the ability to confirm whether certain players are in the game or something, or have hints to that effect. Similarly to a few games ago. That said, I doubt Casey would claim this early as scum unless they were being coached (which is a possibility).
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@Moozer325
Don't tell us, but if the doctor asks you about their role, you should tell them. Also I'd avoid confirming that there is a doctor, which you kind of did. But it's ok.
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@Best.Korea
@Casey_Risk
Only issue is that granny is a great claim for a scum player who wants to avoid being investigated. Idk if Casey would come up with that claim for that reason, but their partner might if they are scum.
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@Best.Korea
Mafia tends to have role block, redirect, or something similar.
Oh true. Forget it then.
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