Shila

--> @Public-Choice

Their names aren't important to the story. 

The greatest miscarriage in the history of all Christendom and you believe that the testimonies or the identities of these two "certain" witnesses that led to the death of an innocent godman are not important.

I respect your opinion. But it's not my own,PC

--> @Shila

The charge of blasphemy by the High Priests did not hold up in the Roman court.

Yes, I know. And I think that should say "wouldn't" hold up.

And I shall keep your response in mind.  But like I have said, those points can be taken up another time on another thread.

This thread is concerned only with these two anonymous "certain witnesses".

--> @BrotherD.Thomas

why do you try in vain and take the time to refute them

As I said, in the past I have done that. No more. now unless you engage then you will get a quack

--> @Shila

It was a Kangaroo Court. Conducted in secret so little details were provided.

 Yes I know.  I have read the story often from the arrest to the death, so please stop repeating yourself when I have already agreed your point.

It funny isn't it, that as you state, Jesus was brought before Pilate on accusations of "rebellion", yet the trial held by the Sanhedrin was all to do with accusations of "blasphemy". 

And you also make the point that the trial was "conducted in secret", which begs the question of - how were the proceeding abled to be recorded decades later?

Never mind, we can get to that in another thread.

-> @Shila

Has anyone ever considered the New Testament story of the so called " certain false witnesses"?

After his arrest Jesus , it is written, was taken first to the home of Annas where he was slapped around and spat on then turned over to someone in a higher authority, Caiaphas.   But they had a problem. Under Mosaic law and the book of Deuteronomy, they had to have two witnesses to whatever the crime it was Jesus is alleged to have committed.

   According to Mark;

“the chief priests and all the council sought for witness against Jesus to put him to death; and found none”, Mark 15:55-56. KJV.

Then immediately, this happens:

Suddenly they find two “false” witnesses, who are willing to come forward and testify with stories that did tally;

“ And there arose certain, and bare false witness against him, saying We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands”. Mark14:57-58.KJV

Among the many other questions that the story of Jesus' arrest and trial raises, one has to ask,  why are these "certain" star witnesses never directly named?

Stephen, you totally missed the message in Mark 14 and Mark 15.

The  fact that no names were mentioned proves Jesus was tried in a Kangaroo Court.

I didn't miss the point. I agree with you.  My point is that this was the greatest miscarriage of Justice in all of Christendom, and these two "certain" witnesses are not even named. Why do you think they remained anonymous?

--> @Shila

Count the number of times Tradesecret said, “No, our PM is very Australian.” That is 3 times.

He does I agee.  But only AFTER I challenged his claim that MY English PM was also Australia's PM. 

His second claim and AFTER I reminded him that he was Australian was to say - " I am entitled to call him my MP".  which is also bullshite.

You are just ignoring these facts which makes you sicker than he.  You also missed the fact that he ALSO claimed that MY PM was a member of the commonwealth, so he was also entitled to call MY PM his MP. I had to remind him, and YOU that ALL commonwealth countries have their own PM's  and told you to google it.

The irony came when HE went and researched it for you and agreed that I was correct.  But YOU continued to support his bullshit claims.

 Now just fk off and stick to your ruined and boring thread. I won't engage you any longer on either subject matter.

I am not the first to discuss this case and that sham organization, as Candace Owens has been all over it. Her NEW documentary, "The Greatest LIE ever sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM."

The truth, which the media and democrats have fought hard to hide is that George Floyd killed himself with a lethal dose of fentanyl & meth, that Derrick Chauvin's knee was on his shoulder and NOT on his neck; and all the money made by BLM was spent in one of two ways: (1) to Patrice Cullors and her cronies' buying mansions in white neighborhoods, and (2) to gender ideology organizations. All of which Candace covers in her documentary. Bottom line, not a single penny actually went to a black business, black organization, black school, or even a black neighborhood. Not a cent.

Everyone knows the inherent imminent danger that fentanyl poses, it's not rocket science. And the toxicology report of George Floyd proves beyond any doubt that he died of an overdose and not any knee on a shoulder or the spuriously claimed neck.

The initial coroner's report even substantiates the toxicology report whereas any trauma to the neck is concerned, which there was absolutely none. None whatsoever. George Floyd had hypertension, an enlarged heart, and was grossly overdosed with fentanyl.

Police departments, cities, etc. always "settle" with families in racially charged cases due to the racial nature of the case. Why? Because of the black assailant, perp, suspect, violent offender, whoever is found at fault and the city, cops, or whomever was not...then there will be violent unrest and rioting, pillaging, burning and killing by black folk. That's just a fact of life in this country because blacks are not being held accountable for their actions.

DRAFT SO FAR...

--> @BrotherD.Thomas

Brother Thomas, 

Quack quack. 

Added 10.24.22 01:12PM

(19) A remarkable feature of these scorpionflies is an appendage that seems specially designed for rape. Called the notal organ, it is a clamp on the top of the male's abdomen with which he can grab on to one of the female's forewings during mating, to prevent her escape. Besides rape, the notal organ does not appear to have any other function. For example, when the notal organs of males are experimentally covered with beeswax, to keep them from functioning, the males cannot rape. Such males still mate successfully, however, when they are allowed to present nuptial gifts to females. And other experiments have shown that the notal organ is not an adaptation for transferring sperm: in unforced mating, the organ contributes nothing to insemination.

(20) Not surprisingly, females prefer voluntary mating to mating by force: they will approach a male bearing a nuptial gift and flee a male that does not have one. Intriguingly, however, the males, too, seem to prefer a consensual arrangement: they rape only when they cannot obtain a nuptial gift. Experiments have shown that when male scorpionflies possessing nuptial gifts are removed from an area, giftless males--typically, the wimpier ones that had failed in male-male competitions over prey--quickly shift from attempting rape to guarding a gift that has been left untended. That preference for consensual sex makes sense in evolutionary terms, because when females are willing, males are much more likely to achieve penetration and sperm transfer.

Link

Rape is less advantageous than consensual sex, all else being equal, but undesirable circumstances (scarcity in this case) can introduce a Nash equilibrium where some amount of rape confers more advantage to these less successful males than the regular strategy.

Has anyone ever considered the New Testament story of the so called " certain false witnesses"?

After his arrest Jesus , it is written, was taken first to the home of Annas where he was slapped around and spat on then turned over to someone in a higher authority, Caiaphas.   But they had a problem. Under Mosaic law and the book of Deuteronomy, they had to have two witnesses to whatever the crime it was Jesus is alleged to have committed.

   According to Mark;

“the chief priests and all the council sought for witness against Jesus to put him to death; and found none”, Mark 15:55-56. KJV.

Then immediately, this happens:

Suddenly they find two “false” witnesses, who are willing to come forward and testify with stories that did tally;

“ And there arose certain, and bare false witness against him, saying We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands”. Mark14:57-58.KJV

Among the many other questions that the story of Jesus' arrest and trial raises, one has to ask,  why are these "certain" star witnesses never directly named?

Here we go again:

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Black-on-Black Crime: Who’s the Real Enemy Black America? (msn.com)

Grayslake police publicly identify suspect wanted in crime spree as manhunt continues (lakemchenryscanner.com)

Police trying to ID armed suspect in robbery at southwest Birmingham store (msn.com)

Police seek suspect in Jamaica Plain home invasion, sex assault - CBS Boston (cbsnews.com)

Boston police seek two suspects in alleged robbery on Blue Hill Ave. (msn.com)

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--> @Stephen

Hello Dippy one.

When did I say that the British PM was also an Australian PM?

You just twist things so much.  I have said 

Our British PM.

I have talked about the British PM being a PM of the Commonwealth. 

I have even linked to all of the different PMs in the Commonwealth. 

Yes, I am an Aussie. I don't think the British PM is also the Australian PM. I never said it was.  

You REALLY are an Idiot and you should learn to read and you should stop being such an arrogant prat who demonstrates stupidity at every turn. I get it. You hate me and despise me.  Good for you. But stop lying and stop calling me a liar.  And Get a life. 

Tradesecret is from Australia. So he should know better.

 And I am English and DO know better than that clown. 

Then when he got caught out right telling lies about himself AGAIN then he tried to recover by coming up with all kinds of shite as to what he only "believes he is entitled to call a British Prime minister" and you fkn supported and helped him perpetuate his lie. What he believes he is " entitled "to call my British PM and what my PM actually is and what country and people he actually does represent are two different things all together. 

he slipped up. This is the clown that also says he is a New Zealander, and his first language is Greek.

Show us where he said, the PM of England was also the PM of Australia and the Commonwealth. 

He starts here#100 saying "our PM". He must have forgotten for a minute that he was actually Australian. That is what a complete and utter dunce he is. And this is the same man that tells us that he "was taught to memorise the bible from a very early age".  And is all you did was encourage and help him perpetuate his lies.

 Congratulations, You are sicker as he is.

then here

#102

then here

So your Australian PM is English, is he? 🤣

TS reply: No, our PM is very Australian. 

#105

then here

TS reply: No, our PM is very Australian. 

#107

then here

TS reply: No, our PM is very Australian. Yet Australia is part of the Commonwealth so I am quite entitled to view every PM in the commonwealth as ours. Just as every nation in the Commonwealth is entitled to call the King our Majesty. 

#115

Shila Context. UK is exiting the  EU (BREXIT), the British PM Luz Truss reigned. So the Reverent  might be right. The only PM in the commonwealth is Australian.

TS corrects Shila: I am surprised by your support - but just for the record, the British Commonwealth has many more than one PM.   It has 32 in fact.  

Now enough of this idiot and stick to your thread. 

--> @Shila

TWS’s profile tells us he was forced to retire at 45. It is possible his professional psychologist found him unfit to work. So he spends his time venting out and throwing insults at his own reflection or projecting onto others what he hates about himself.

Atrial Fibrillation and high blood pressure (cardiovascular conditions) =/= psychological issues. And you're one to talk about psychological projection. It's your forte.  

Roman soldier ...............unnamed in the Bible, who offered Jesus a sponge soaked in vinegar wine at the Crucifixion.

That is not what I asked, and you wouldn't know either way what this person's name was or if indeed he were Roman or Jew.. the BIBLE doesn't say so does it!?

It simply says:

John 19:

28 ........I thirst.
29 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.

 So tell me, what are the medicinal properties of hysopp and of vinagar?

You lied when you posted, “Or when shila  tried to tell me that a British Prime Minister is also the PM of Australia.”

 Nope. You supported and agreed that fkn clown tradesecret when he said the PM of England was also the PM of Australia and the Commonwealth. 

Tell me thicko, as you say, the UK now has a new PM. Is he also the PM of Australia and the Commonwealth?

 That is simply not the case. There is absolutely no mention of a single disciple being anywhere near the crucifixion site never mind the cross. They all scattered after the arrest and went into hiding.

Yes I know about the women looking from afar in one gospel, and yet another gospel has them within speaking distance to Christ . But not a single mention of a single one of the 12 disciples being anywhere near their lord and master at the time he was nailed up and losing his faith in his "father".

And you still haven't answered this>. What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge? 

Now tell me what kind of friend would give a dying thirsty man Vinger to drink?

--> @BrotherD.Thomas

Stephen,

Don't you wish that DEBATEART Religion Forum had a simple rule, that when you are so Bible stupid as Shila and Miss Tradesecret, as we have easily shown them to be ad infinitum, that they have to take a 2 week furlough to give us, and other members, a needed rest from their Bible ignorance!!!

Well your god must have read my mind Brother D. and passed it onto you. It was only a few days ago where I was thinking that sometimes, some threads need an adjudicator. Such as when it was vehemently denied that a pastor and or a chaplain are to be addressed as Reverend, for which there is clear evidence that this is most certainly the case.

Or when shila  tried to tell me that a British Prime Minister is also the PM of Australia.

News update.

Britain now has its own PM Rishi Sunak. Rishi Sinai is the incumbent Prime Minister, succeeding Liz Truss.

Yes I know. And that for me certainly spells the end of Great Britain and England as I once knew it..  What's your point thicko?

Yes I know about the women looking from afar in one gospel, and yet another gospel has them within speaking distance to Christ . But not a single mention of a single one of the 12 disciples being anywhere near their lord and master at the time he was nailed up and losing his faith in his "father".

 Get over it. Your holy 12 did one almighty disappearing act when the chips were down, sunshine.

And you still haven't answered this>. What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge? 

--> @BrotherD.Thomas

Stephen,

Don't you wish that DEBATEART Religion Forum had a simple rule, that when you are so Bible stupid as Shila and Miss Tradesecret, as we have easily shown them to be ad infinitum, that they have to take a 2 week furlough to give us, and other members, a needed rest from their Bible ignorance!!!

Well your god must have read my mind Brother D. and passed it onto you. It was only a few days ago where I was thinking that sometimes, some threads need an adjudicator. Such as when it was vehemently denied that a pastor and or a chaplain are to be addressed as Reverend, for which there is clear evidence that this is most certainly the case.

Or when shila  tried to tell me that a British Prime Minister is also the PM of Australia.

 That is simply not the case. There is absolutely no mention of a single disciple being anywhere near the crucifixion site never mind the cross. They all scattered after the arrest and went into hiding.

Yes I know about the women looking from afar in one gospel, and yet another gospel has them within speaking distance to Christ . But not a single mention of a single one of the 12 disciples being anywhere near their lord and master at the time he was nailed up and losing his faith in his "father".

 Get over it. Your holy 12 did one almighty disappearing act when the chips were down, sunshine. 

--> @Shila

How do you account for the flat earth believers on DebateArt, are they Catholics?

What? I never said all flat-earthers are Catholic. I said the Catholic Church strongly promulgated the flat earth myth and censored other viewpoints.

That is totally different than saying all flat-earthers alive today are Catholic.

What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge? 

Not a single one of the 12 disciples is recorded as standing at the foot of the cross to watch Jesus die.

 You may want to place Mary Magdelana attending the event, but she is never recorded as being a disciple and, it is said, that she and a few other women stood and to have " watched from afar". 

It is as you insist, "the bible should be taken literally at all times".

You even accept the disciples watch the crucifixion from a distance.

Nope. Learn to read. I clearly wrote:

Not a single one of the 12 disciples is recorded as standing at the foot of the cross to watch Jesus die.#339

 The verse you offer simply states "some people" not disciples which indicates simply people on a family day out at the crucifixion. And further John appears contradict both Luke and mark.  That is one for you Christians, to get over.

And you have failed to answer this question tree time>>  "What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge"? 

.

Shila, the biblical fool that is to SCARED to discuss Jesus' true modus operandi as Yahweh God incarnate within the Bible,

YOUR CONTINUED BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE IN POST #336: "Your MO of Jesus is nothing like the Historical Jesus based on the Bible or historical sources Shila used to build the case of the Historical Jesus."

Wrong, bible ignorant fool!  I have asked you many time if you are not too SCARED to discuss Jesus' true MO within the scriptures, but you have ran away like a little school girl from doing so, just likeMiss Tradesecret does to biblical axioms at her embarrassing expense as shown herewith: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8105/post-links/353895

This is the last time in front of the membership, that will be on record in the future and used against you anyway, are you ready to discuss Jesus with the attributes that I have shown Him to be, shown below, or not?   As usual, Miss Tradesecret would RUN, therefore, are you going to be like her as well? Huh?

Our Jesus we worship, as the Serial Killer Yahweh God incarnate, was embarrassingly, greedy, jealous, selfish, self-centered, petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capricious, and malevolent!

Shila, are you also SCARED that in true discussion of Jesus' MO with me, that it will derail your entire misguided thread of Jesus' true historical presence and that is why you are running away from this discussion?

--> @Shila

What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge? 

Not a single one of the 12 disciples is recorded as standing at the foot of the cross to watch Jesus die.

 You may want to place Mary Magdelana attending the event, but she is never recorded as being a disciple and, it is said, that she and a few other women stood and to have " watched from afar". 

It is as you insist, "the bible should be taken literally at all times".

You even accept the disciples watch the crucifixion from a distance.

Nope. Learn to read. I clearly wrote:

Not a single one of the 12 disciples is recorded as standing at the foot of the cross to watch Jesus die.#339

And you have failed to answer this question tree time>>  "What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge"? 

YOUR QUOTE OF REVELATION: "Matthews 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

You are correct, besides Jesus being the King of the Jews as well! (Matthew 27:11) Therefore, which Hebrew sect to you belong too?  Don't be SCARED again dear, just simply answer the question, understood?

Thanking you in advance.

YOUR QUOTE IN POST #135 : "How can Shila be both dumbfounded of the Bible as well as biblically correct? You need to get a proper education before  you can engage in intelligent discussions."

To answer your statement, even the most biblically stupid of the Bible like you get to first base some times, but in your case, go no further.

YOUR QUOTE OF REVELATION: "Matthews 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

You are correct, besides Jesus being the King of the Jews as well! (Matthew 27:11) Therefore, which Hebrew sect to you belong too?  Don't be SCARED again dear, just simply answer the question, understood?

You have RAN AWAY again pertaining to said post in not telling the membership in what HEBREW sect you follow, since you agree that Matthews 15:24 is true!

Your answer is:

HELLO SHILA BIBLE FOOL!  I am NOT blaspheming Jesus because I have described Jesus' true historical modus operandi within the scriptures in Jesus being Yahweh God incarnate, of which you are obviously unaware of because of your complete Bible stupidity!  Now, once again, are you ready to discuss the aforementioned TRUE statements relative to Jesus, or are you going to run away from them and go into hiding,  just like the equally Bible ignorant Tradesecret continually does? 

Again, remember dear, this thread is about the "Historical Jesus," therefore the MO of Jesus as I have shown above is pertinent to your ungodly thread!

Your MO of Jesus is nothing like the Historical Jesus based on the Bible or historical sources Shila used to build the case of the Historical Jesus.

Waiting for your response!

--> @Shila

.

Shila, the most dumbfounded of the Bible hell bound woman,

YOUR QUOTE OF REVELATION: "Matthews 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

You are correct, besides Jesus being the King of the Jews as well! (Matthew 27:11) Therefore, which Hebrew sect to you belong too?  Don't be SCARED again dear, just simply answer the question, understood?

Thanking you in advance.

Stephen: Nope there is absolutely no evidence that Jesus died on the cross. He could well have simply fell into unconsciousness after such a brutal beating, then having to walk a third of a mile to the location of the crucifixion and then agony of being nailed to some wood.  I am sure I would pass out.

--> @Stephen

It doesn't take too much to get you frustrated does it Stephen, you little stalker you?

Mark 15:45 gives evidence by a Roman Centurion that Jesus was dead.  That this evidence was satisfactory to Pilate enabled him to permit the body to be removed and given to Joseph of Arimathea. 

John 19:32 also gives evidence by Roman Soldiers that when they came to Jesus he was already dead, so they did not break his legs.  Instead one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear - bringing a sudden flow of blood and water.  This was evidence that Jesus was dead. 

The scriptures testify that Jesus died.  There is sufficient evidence of this. To say there is none is nonsense. And the ravings of a man not willing to accept anything. 

Of course it satyrical, just like Brother D Thomas. 

Except the Brother comes from south Kentucky.

Jesus did indeed die. Jesus was crucified and the Gospels record his last breath.

Nope there is absolutely no evidence that Jesus died on the cross. He could well have simply fell into unconsciousness after such a brutal beating, then having to walk a third of a mile to the location of the crucifixion and then agony of being nailed to some wood.  I am sure I would pass out.

What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge? 

Not a single one of the 12 disciples is recorded as standing at the foot of the cross to watch Jesus die.

 You may want to place Mary Magdelana attending the event, but she is never recorded as being a disciple and, it is said, that she and a few other women stood and to have " watched from afar". 

It is as you insist, "the bible should be taken literally at all times".

There are more atheist members who now believe Jesus existed than we had before Shila built the case for the Historical Jesus.

There have always been atheists that believe as I do in the possibility that a biblical character named Jesus existed and well before you were even born. But I will often admit that I cannot prove it.   So, it has nothing to do with you "building a case".  So stop getting ahead of yourself because you have proven nothing.

--> @Shila

For sure.

So can you confirm that you are indeed a Female, French Canadian Catholic of the species Homo sapiens.

--> @Shila

Before that it was logical to assume the earth was flat.

I think you completely missed my point. The point was that the "earth being flat" idea was not widely held at all except by the Catholic Church through censorship.

The Ancient Egyptians used calculus to determine the earth was arched. [1] And the Ancient Greeks also determined the earth was round. [2]

SOURCES:

[1] https://www.iflscience.com/this-is-how-ancient-people-knew-the-earth-was-round-59202

[2] https://youtu.be/T0f6u39jlRA

--> @Best.Korea

So you're account in debate art isn't an account?

Shila, 

YOUR DECEIVING AND DUMBFOUNDED QUOTE RELATIVE TO JESUS AS YAHWEH GOD INCARNATE:"We now know the Jesus you worship is very different from the Jesus Christians worship.

HELLO SHILA BIBLE FOOL!  I am NOT blaspheming Jesus because I have described Jesus' true historical modus operandi within the scriptures in Jesus being Yahweh God incarnate, of which you are obviously unaware of because of your complete Bible stupidity!  Now, once again, are you ready to discuss the aforementioned TRUE statements relative to Jesus, or are you going to run away from them and go into hiding,  just like the equally Bible ignorant Tradesecret continually does? 

Again, remember dear, this thread is about the "Historical Jesus," therefore the MO of Jesus as I have shown above is pertinent to your ungodly thread!

Waiting for your response!

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--> @Shila

I only said perhaps.

--> @Intelligence_06

If I am reading this correctly, you are saying that if we redefine flat to "a side or a surface" then the world is flat relative to where we are standing and everything, Therefore, is realigned in reference to our position on earth.

While this is an interesting thought experiment, we already have mountains of data that prove the earth is not flat.

Also, fwiw, the Bible doesn't teach the earth is flat. The Hebrew word translated "circle" (חוּג) in most Bibles actually means vault in the archaic meaning, or an arch. So when it says the vault of the earth, it is saying the earth is curved. [1] 

Additionally, ancient rabbinical commentaries on this passage also allude to the fact that the earth is both round and flat. To claim one was always the case is to ignore the Jerusalem Talmud. [2]

SOURCES:

[1] https://biblehub.com/bdb/2329.htm

[2] https://daatemet.org.il/en/torah-science-ethics/scientific-errors-in-torah/what-the-sages-knew-about-the-shape-of-the-earth/

--> @BrotherD.Thomas

Shila, are you that SCARED in front of the membership to discuss the real Historical Jesus as shown above? 

The thing here Brother D. is that Shila is of the impression that because no one on this thread has actually argued against there ever being an historical Jesus, he has jumped to the conclusion that he somehow proven that an historical Jesus actually existed. Which of course he hasn't proven any such thing. 

Shila, the Copy and Paste Artist, the dumbfounded Bible fool, and the runaway from Bible facts about our Historical Jesus,

Barring your outright Bible stupidity that Jesus DID NOT DIE as I have shown you in this link: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8091/post-links/353291   why do you continue to run away in discussion like Miss Tradesecret does when I present biblical axioms to the two of you?  As explicitly shown below, the “Historical Jesus,” which is the topic of your ungodly thread in not following 1 Timothy 2:11-14, had the biblical attributes listed below, bar none!

Those attributes that you sheepishly RUN AWAY from about our Jesus as being Yahweh God incarnate are as follows: Jesus was embarrassingly, greedy, jealous, selfish, self-centered, petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capricious, and malevolent.

Shila, remember bible stupid fool, your thread is about the "historical Jesus," therefore,  the aforementioned attributes about Jesus are all in context with your pitiful and embarrassing thread!  Get it?

Shila, are you that SCARED in front of the membership to discuss the real Historical Jesus as shown above?  Huh?  Or, are you going to run like Miss Tradesecret does and HIDE from your own thread?  LOL!

Stephen,

Regarding my revealing post that Jesus DID NOT DIE, as shown herewith in this link: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8091/post-links/353291  , DEBATEART Religion Forum must have a sign out once again somewhere that states "All Bible stupid pseudo-christians welcome!" Therefore, as shown, Shila, and the ever so Bible inept Miss Tradesecret, have taken advantage of this welcoming sign and are now making continued Bible fools of themselves!

As I have said before, Bible stupid pseudo-christians do not know they are Bible stupid, because of the simple fact that they are so Bible stupid®️

JESUS DIDN'T DIE BIBLE FOOL SHILA!

DIE: to cease to live; undergo the complete and permanent cessation of all vital functions; become dead.

Listen up Bible fool Shila, Jesus DID NOT remain dead, because He came back after a 3 day tomb nap and walked out as being flesh and blood, understood Bible fool, huh?  In the real primitive bible sacrifices the individual or animal remained DEAD, which is a true meaningful sacrifice!  Deduced, since our Jesus did not remain dead, he therefore did not die by remaining dead as the definition in how one dies shown above! 

 A factual and real sacrifice is that you remain DEAD, period, where one does NOT come back to life three days later!  HELLO?!  As an example, a true sacrifice  is when USA  soldiers remained dead after they gave their lives to protect the United States of America in WW2!

SHILA the continued Bible fool, the question on everyone’s mind has to be when are you going to TRUTHFULLY show that our Jesus we worship, as the Serial Killer Yahweh God incarnate, was embarrassingly, greedy, jealous, selfish, self-centered, petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capricious, and malevolent!

--> @Yassine

 "Why I Support LGBT & Feminism" 

"That LGBT+Feminism is the shortest & amplest path to population collapse. White populations fertility is currently at about half replacement rate, & declining. This is the generation which grew up in the 70s & 80s, during 2nd & 3rd wave Feminism. The upcoming generation, of which close to half are LGBT+, will likely half the fertility, to probably quarter replacement rate; since LGBT+ contribution to fertility is, well, insignificant. Half replacement rate means half the population over a life expectancy cycle, idem for a quarter. Specifically, the 600 million Whites in the world will become 300 million by the end of the century at half replacement rate, & 150 million at quarter replacement rate. "

Where am I confused?