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A lot Of the members here, especially so-called mods (or whatever they call themselves) need to grow the fuck up AND man the fuck up!!!Never on any website have I ever seen so many whiny bitches - starting with you know who!!!
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@Greyparrot
allegedly assaulting...So an allegation or a restraining order is sufficient to violate constitutional rights in 2023?Did you research how easily people can obtain restraining orders? You can literally slap yourself in the face, take a picture, or get a buddy to testify, and get a compliant judge to sign off on it. Happens all the time, especially in divorce situations.If this case is upheld, perhaps it will give cause for serious reform of the current system of restraining orders.
The solution to the restraining order problem is more guns.
More guns, more guns, more guns.
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I was born to argue, born to critically think and challenge.I came to realise that I need a high IQ spouse no matter what. I can't last long-term with someone who can't appreciate that side of me, it just makes friction. There's also no way to say 'you're too unintelligent' in a nice way, I have been told my intellectual needs and ranting make me incompatible before, though, some have even said I'm just too smart.Debating is an innate part of me. I am not just a nerd who can do nerdy stuff at the day job and come home and turn my brain off, in everything I like to think generally speaking, it can even be intimacy but also just hobbies. I can get along with less intelligent people, yes. I can't fully feel that electric 'fuck I dig you so hard' vibe let alone this true love vibe and it is a problem as I can feel a crush and feel loved (well, not all of me, that's the point) but start to feel dead inside myself.I can have less intelligent or stimulating friends but for a lover, it's definitely a requirement. She needs the spark, the urge to debate sure but that's not as important, just the spark to talk back.
Modesty too, don't forgot to tell us how humble you are.
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@HistoryBuff
Like, it's OK to tell the abortion on demand through the 3rd trimester crowd to take a back seat.I don't think there are very many, if any, people who want an abortion to be an option like the day before the due date. So you may be making a straw man argument. I won't go so far as to say no one believes that, but they would be a tiny minority.
For a lot of the folks on this board, I support abortion up to the age of 40.
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@Vegasgiants
Trump and DeSantis will need to go right wing to get the nomination. The democrats can hammer them over abortion laws. It was a huge factor in the last election and will be again in 2024
No doubt the GOP blew it on abortion, but they still have big issues to campaign on, Mr. Potatohead, football players taking a knee, toilets you have to flush ten times, and OMG, the race of the little mermaid.
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@Greyparrot
The vaccine was effectiveIt wasn’t 100% effectiveSo it didn't 100% stop the transmission of the virus?Dang.Wonder why they said for over a year that it 100% did?
Probably because nobody ever said that.
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@VegasgiantsTwosDon't post to me if you block meThat's his MO, but he usually lies about it.There are a billion racist web sites out there, but this genius came to a debate site looking for an echo chamber.Lie about what, replying to comments other people make? 🤦♂️
You block people and lie about it, it's what you do.
The new enforcement of moderation is in effect. And if you keep up the unsubstantiated personal attacks referring to me as being a racist when I am not…I’ll report your replies, each and every one of them, for said unsubstantiated personal attack.
That would be appropriate if you weren't a racist, but since you are a racist, stick it.
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A racist that hates civil rights attorneys, surprise, surprise.Unsubstantiated ad hominem attack, ad nauseum. Comment reported.
Racist reports comments ad nauseum, surprise surprise.
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@Vegasgiants
I'll bet your credit score is about 300.
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@Bill-0
Again, i see where you are coming from and i definitely agree to a certain point, however remember that the website they were asking for was ABOUT lgbtq, so if a Muslim webmaster was asked to make a christian website i dont think that anyone would be angry if they refused.So while you cant be refused anything due to your sexual orientation, there will always be an exception if it directly has to with said sexual oreintation
The ruling is nebulous at best, my original point stands, "The simple fact is the ruling is going to allow people who want to discriminate to discriminate". Bigots always justify bigotry, the Supremes have allowed that.
Just look at TWS' posts, for him, racism is a religiously held belief.
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@Slainte
Can you explain what snowflake is. I really do not know. I have an idea.
It's a slang term the right typically projects onto the left.
"Snowflake" is a derogatory slang term for a person, implying that they have an inflated sense of uniqueness, an unwarranted sense of entitlement, or are overly emotional, easily offended, and unable to deal with opposing opinions. - Wikipedia
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@Vegasgiants
TwsDon't post to me if you block me
That's his MO, but he usually lies about it.
There are a billion racist web sites out there, but this genius came to a debate site looking for an echo chamber.
It's childish
I think you owe children an apology.
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A racist that hates civil rights attorneys, surprise, surprise.
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"To know a person's religion we need not listento his profession of faith but must find his brand of intolerance." Eric Hoffer
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@Bill-0
Good point, Honestly i think that would be ok
Religion is an internal affair, so one could justify any discrimination on any basis by saying it is a religious belief, the KKK claims to be a Christian organization,
The Supremes have opened the floodates of discrimination.
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@Bill-0
Well religion is also a protected class though, so because of that i dont think they could be forced to make something against their religion
So a Muslim webmaster can refuse to work for Christians?
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@Bill-0
Its not a inherent right to have a website made for you, so they can refuse service for you for any reason they want to
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex and national origin, the question becomes can you refuse to accept work from a protected class, would that be a form of "employment" discrimination?
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@Vegasgiants
It follows the constitution
Like a predator follows it's prey.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Perhaps the most brilliant and eccentric philosopher to have actually lived.
A cynic, socially inept, and unable to make a decent living, eccentric yes, brilliant not so much.
You are toast. Einstein couldn't win that debate.
Greater than mediocre minds like Aristotle, Plato, or Socrates.
One this site's mountain of insane comments, this one rises to the mountaintop.
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@Vegasgiants
I got their opinion crystal-clear
It's the best decision money can buy.
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@hey-yo
I think the purpose to vagueness allows error and therefore correction for years to come. If we make a decision blal amd white, then it creates a line for everyone to split on. Although that clarity may be nice, in this decision the future generations need more say in a full decision, and evidence to make that decision.Also, these decisions are not aimed solely at one demographic, it applies to everyone for everything. Cutting this black and white limits how things are applied to everyone. Instead we get a law that only affects one demographic and eveyone else may get shot in the dark.
It's a rogue Supreme Court, the "purpose to vagueness" is to open the door for discrimination, and it will turn the courts into the battleground of the culture war.
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@Vegasgiants
It's up to the court to answer those questions
It was the court's ruling that raises those questions. The Supreme Court is supposed to clarify, not obfuscate the law.
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The ruling was way too vague, left it open to interpretation as to whether the service involves creativity or customization, is a barber doing creativity, how about a chef? Can a landscaper deny service to a gay couple, landscaping is a creative art, so is painting, can a house painter claim his artistic freedom is compromised if he must paint a trans person's home? It doesn't matter how we answer those questions, what matters is how the bigoted service provider that wants to discriminate answers those questions.
The simple fact is the ruling is going to allow people who want to discriminate to discriminate, almost any service provider can claim some degree of customization, creativity, or artistry, especially when it supports their bigotry.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Things get silly when trying to force interactions people don't want to have.
You mean they force you to not discriminate?
They also force people to pay taxes they don't want to pay.
Sucks.
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@Vegasgiants
Why do you hate logic?
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@Vegasgiants
Have you always hated gay people?
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
Don't worry Pumpkin, people will not hate you for coming out of the closet.
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@Vegasgiants
Man you really hate gay people
I hate gay people because I don't wnt to bump uglies with you.
I don't think so Pumpkin.
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@Vegasgiants
I accept your concession
Is that some kind of coded come on?
Are you hitting on me?
I'm sorry man, it's OK if you are ready to choose differently, but not with me you don't.
Try TWS, he's really confused, maybe you and him on the downlow would work.
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@Vegasgiants
I'm not gay. That's not my choice either
That's debatable, you said it could have gone either way, you were attracted to both, but you chose women, said no straight man ever.
Maybe it's time to come out of the closet and admit you are gay.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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@Vegasgiants
Yes I chose. Around age 11. And I kept that choice
On what basis did you decide?
But some people choose and then later chose differently
How often do you think of going back?
When you see a man you think is really hot, do you regret your decision?
When you are with a woman, do you ever fantasize it's a man?
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@Vegasgiants
No scientific agency says homosexuality is not a choice. In fact t none will say we know what determines sexuality. Sexuality is not a box checked at birth. Sexuality fir many changes throughout their lifetimeClearly choice is likely a element in determining Sexuality
Are you saying you had to choose your orientation?
If it could have gone either way, how did you choose?
Are you still attracted to the one you didn't choose?
If you have a partner, do they know you had to choose, and that you are attracted to the other gender too?
I'm sincerely curious about what you partner thinks about the situation.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Wylted wishes to retract his earlier resignation on the basis that it was a momentary setback of one of his alters temporarily assuming control and cruelly doxxing his personal & login information. I strongly urge DART to consider this option on the basis that.:
He ran as a troll, and was elected by trolls, he is the president this site deserves.
- Wylted himself was not responsible for his actions, and thus did not consent to having his info leaked and people logging into his account to impersonate him.
Why should Wylted be the only one who can impersonate Wylted.
- Wylted is not the same man he used to be. He is a new person now.
The man he used to be is the one the site elected.
If this appeal is accepted, Wylted will permanently retire the anti-semitic, transphobic, and racist schtick.
Doubt it, but nevertheless, the site elected an anti-semitic, transphobic, racist troll to be president, that defines the majority of this site, it's what this site has become.
He has already started his new life as a promiscuous Slavic woman that wants to marry an American sugar daddy to collect a VISA.
Add anti-semitic, transphobic, and racist and he could be elected king.
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@FLRW
That is because Trump's father was born in Germany. Trump is related to Hitler.
I don't think he's actually related to Hitler, he's channeling Hitler, which is different.
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@Greyparrot
Nobody is removing him. Turns out you fell for disinformation again. Jan 6 was a bigger coup than the one Russia allowed you to see.
He's weakened, much more vulnerable, no longer fully in control, he won't last.
If you want to know the real story, PM me.
OK
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@Greyparrot
Good Job Putin.I cant wait to write in Putin for the Democrat nominee. At least he gets shit done.
I'm sure he'll be available soon, that is assuming they let him live after he is removed from power.
Soon he'll be unemployed or dead.
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@DavidAZ
Why push it to our children? If we are idiots, do we not have the right to be fools?
If you were really worried about your children, you wouldn't have married your cousin.
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@DavidAZ
If this keeps up, yes, figure on violence and civil war. We can only "tolerate" so much before you start stepping on my toes.
Your tin foil hat will not save you from our Jewish Space Lasers.
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@Greyparrot
Arm the gays and there will be no genocide.Don't forget our secret weapon, we can always have a football player take a knee and their entire army will implode.It is weird there are people who think the American flag means anything other than a symbol of oppression.
I owe, I owe, it's off to work I go, you'l have to keep an eye out for the attack of the whiney baby brigade.
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@Greyparrot
Gays and guns go together like peaches and cream.
Snowflakes with guns are no threat if they are afraid to leave thier echo chambers, all we have to do is stay away from thier trailer parks and we don't hve to worry about thier guns.
Diversity terrifies them, you can't aim a gun when you are shaking like a leaf.
Don't forget our secret weapon, we can always have a football player take a knee and their entire army will implode.
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@Greyparrot
The other side advocates tolerance and peaceful coexistence, that is only a threat to the fascism of the other side, you can pretend to be the victim of tolerance and peaceful coexistence, but that's just fascist bullshit.Exactly. You do not negotiate with terrorists. Civil war is the only remedy.
Yeah, the victimhood army will attack us with whining and complaining, and then lob Mr. Potatohead outrage bombs at us.
We can always make drag queens our first line of defense, they are terrified of drag queens, they will surrender in a New York second when they see drag queens.
Once they have surrendered we will subject them to the LGBTQ "agenda", the ones that don't turn gay will become trans.
Victory!!!
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@Sir.Lancelot
Mormonism vs Islam
The Bible says you judge a tree by it's fruit, in my experience, they both bear good fruit.
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@Devis4657
If you think sexual orientation is a choice then you must have chosen your own orientation, which is to say, it could have gone either way for you and you had to choose.
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but if you had to look in a book to help you decide which way to go, you are gay.
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@DavidAZ
Meh. One side has definitely crossed the line. The 'other side' shouldn't be part of this conversation.Regardless of whose side you are on, do you not think that one side wouldn't feel threatened if the other did not cross lines?My point is, there are opposing views so dynamic that one cannot co-exist with the other. One side will have to be eliminated in order for the other to exist. We, America, have become so far divided from each other that violent protests have been started on each end. How long until those protests turn militant since one side refuses to hear the other? So far, each side is just cramming their views down each other's throat. Though, being conservative, it looks as if the progressive side are the ones crossing lines since their view seems to be anti-conservatism and pulling away from the core beliefs of America and pushing such odd ideas.
Nonsense, one side advocated intolerance and argues that they cannot coexist with others, they have crossed the line, they are promoting war with people who are different than them....thier tactic is a pretense to victimhood, their tactic is your tactic.
The other side advocates tolerance and peaceful coexistence, that is only a threat to the fascism of the other side, you can pretend to be the victim of tolerance and peaceful coexistence, but that's just fascist bullshit.
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Even if this wasn't idiotic, how do you define "all porn", is Hustler porn, Playboy, Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue, underwear ads, olympic volleyball....where do you draw the line, who draws the line.
If freedom of speech becomes a matter of whether or not you approve, then there is no freedom of speech.
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@Best.Korea
knowingly risk harms to humans, including children, in exchange for any of our libertiesOk, so you agree that its okay to harm children for your pleasure lmao
It's you that argues that it's okay to harm children for your pleasure.
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@prefix
Stop it. Quit letting agenda proceed logic.If someone loses a job, through not fault of their own, the safety net should kick in. (that is being used as an example and NOT a new topic for debate)
But not for unwed mothers, got it.
However an unwed mother generally is not faultless, and the guilty parties should be the first in line to pay.
Unwed mothers are guilty, got it.
In any event, this forum post was asking a question.The question was not about who deserves assistance, but who pays.
You don’t want to pay for unwedmothers, got it.
Since you have NO INFO to contribute, kindly cease.
You want to control who the government helps, you want tocontrol the responses to your posts, control freak much?
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@prefix
Are you against government assistance for anyone, or just unwed mothers?You can always say someone other than me can help out, everyone who needs government assistence has parents, so maybe they should pay?Hmmm. So many things that you heard that were not said.
Hmmm. You don't know what you said?
Are you against government assistance for anyone, or just unwed mothers?Where did you get that idea? I have said nothing into the universe of "being against government assistance for anyone". My question simply has to do with RESPONSIBILITY!
You said an unwed mother seeking government assistance should not get assistance from the government, they should get it from the biological father, that's a pretty explicit way to say an unwed mother should not be the government's RESPONSIBILITY!
If there is an unwed mother then there is a biological father. He should pay. The government should be "last in line". There was a case recently where a man had seven children with 5 separate women, never married, and never paid support. I paid. You paid. Duh!
Yeah, I get it, you are against government assistance for unwed mothers. It probably never occurred to you that not all unwed mothers ask for government assistance, only the ones who aren't getting support of the biological father, Duh!
You can always say someone other than me can help out, everyone who needs government assistance has parents, so maybe they should pay?You equate "government assistance" with "parental assistance". You need to rethink that one.
I didn't, you did, maybe you need to think about what you write.
You say an unwed mother should not get assistance from the government, she should get assistance from the "biological father", that would be "parental assistance", trust me, a father is a parent, if you don't believe me, you can look it up.
Why unwed mothers?Because there is someone 100% responsible. He did the deed, he fills the need. Logic 101.
Anyone who needs government assistance has parents, aren't they 100% responsible?
How about married mothers who need government assistance, there is someone 100% responsible in that case too, are you against them getting assistance too, or is it just unwed mothers?
What if the woman was a wed mother and then her husband died, are you against government assistance for widows?
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@prefix
Are you against government assistance for anyone, or just unwed mothers?
You can always say someone other than me can help out, everyone who needs government assistence has parents, so maybe they should pay?
Why unwed mothers?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Double R makes good points.but not about water, only a Californian or a arab could think such silly things.
Not the least bit silly in Arizona.
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