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@Vader
I agree, but I hate the fact we are automatically saying which generals are scum and what not.
Where has anyone been saying which generals are scum or not?
I'm just giving a feasible option based on knowledge
I know, but there are way too many feasible options. It could be generals who fought on both fronts vs those who didn't. It could be where they were born. It could be whether they also fought in the Mexican War or not. It could even something as goofy as their facial hair.
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@Vader
No, Joesph Johnston did both, Albert did the west only
I know. I was referring just to Joseph Johnston.
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@Vader
He was in command in the west for a few years, but he also commanded in the East for at least a year. Also, he wasn't the only important general who fought on both fronts. But really, can we drop the theme analysis for this DP? There is nothing to analyze right now. We'd just be guessing.
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@Vader
Grant, Johnston, and Longstreet fought on both fronts, and those are only the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think East vs. West is really possible. Regardless, let's drop the theme analysis for this DP. There is nothing to analyze right now theme-wise, so it will just be pointless speculation.
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@BearMan
Did Pie say there was a theme split?
From the OP: "This is a themed game so there is a split between scum and town."
The only way we can figure this confusing split out is by claiming, which is stupid in DP1
Yeah. Theme analysis is a waste of time in DP1. I propose that we stop talking about it until we can see some flips.
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@That1User
I see a lot of COnfederates, anyone claim Union?
Claims so far:
Supa: Union (good general in some aspects, hates him based onpersonal preference)
oro: Confederate
Chris: Union
Speed: Confederate
Bear: Union
TNBinc: Union (hethinks)
That1: Confederate
SirAnonymous: Union
Grey: hated town. I didn't think he specified which side.
oro: Confederate
Chris: Union
Speed: Confederate
Bear: Union
TNBinc: Union (hethinks)
That1: Confederate
SirAnonymous: Union
Grey: hated town. I didn't think he specified which side.
Something like what theater of the war a general primarily served in, East Vs. West?
There are too many generals who served in both theaters for that to work. Regardless, there's no way to figure out the theme in DP1. We'll have to see some flips, especially mafia flips, before that becomes possible.
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@TNBinc
I don't know why it started, but it's just a running joke now.
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@That1User
Though there are generals who performed both good and badly like Rosecrans
Definitely. The theme split is probably something more objective than good vs bad generals.
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@TNBinc
SupaDudz voted for BearMan to be removed.Then, Oro voted SupaDudz to be removed.Are Oro and BearMan mafia? It seems Oro is trying to "Protect" Bearman.
Oro always votes Supadudz in the first DP. It doesn't mean anything.
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@BearMan
Pie did say in the OP that there is a theme split.
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@Mharman
I town read TNBinc already. Wheel Decide is tactic I can see a new player doing. Also, if he was scum, I'd think he'd try to come up with an elaborate lie as to why he voted for Supa.
I agree with this. While he shouldn't be overlooked, that made me feel a lot better about him.
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@TNBinc
Ok, that's fair. I don't think it's a good strategy, but that's ok for your first game. Is your general Union or Confederate?
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@Stephen
Again. This is not evidence as much as you want it to be.
Saying it doesn't make it so. Can you refute my argument?
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@TNBinc
It's not against the rules to share your strategy. (But if you're mafia, don't tell us.)
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@Stephen
No it doesn't does it. But it hasn't stopped you repeating it and presenting it as some kind of evidence that supports your original claim that god /Jesus condemned all children to death for sin.
On the contrary, I have never used the curse on the ground to try to prove my point. The only reason I have been quoting the curse on the ground is because it is the same passage as the curse on Adam.
Genesis 3:19b
"until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”
This is the curse of death on Adam.
I have presented my argument. So far, you have only responded by misrepresenting one point of my argument and have made no attempt to refute any of the points that I made. Do you have any refutation to my argument?
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@Vader
Agreed. I think too much time was wasted on the theme in the last game. Let's not repeat that mistake.
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Read the news coverage of this election here: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4723-dart-bard-2nd-edition-8-30-2020
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Read the news coverage on the tournament here: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4723-dart-bard-2nd-edition-8-30-2020
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@MisterChris
Don't count on it. Put yourself in the mafia's shoes. Would you claim Union or Confederate? Most would say Union because it sounds less suspicious. Consequently, the number of people who claim Union vs. Confederacy won't matter much unless more than 3 people claim Confederate, in which case we can rule out Union vs. Confederate as a possible theme.
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@MisterChris
Both are possible. However, I find it's useless to speculate about the theme until we've seen some flips.
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@Vader
I doubt it. I don't think Pie would make the theme something as simple as Union vs. Confederates. It's possible, but I'm guessing the theme isn't quite that obvious.
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@Speedrace
Live mafia is a very different game.
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@Speedrace
Good to see you again. I hope you aren't mafia, or we're all in trouble.
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@Vader
Thanks. However, there is something decidedly unappealing about copy-pasting a couple pages of text, only to spend the next five minutes putting dozens of spaces back into the text.
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Disclaimer: The below content is entirely satirical. Any events described within it are not necessarily factual. Any representation of any person, whether a site member or not, is not intended to be accurate or in any way offensive. Any use of negative terms or portrayal of any person or site member is for the sole purpose of satirical humor and is not intended to be offensive. I do not necessarily agree with any opinions expressed below.
DART BARD
Edited by SirAnonymous
2nd edition
“If you don’t want your opinions to be mocked, don’t have opinions!”
NEWS
DART User BearMan Organizes Debate Tournament. Russian Influence Suspected.
By Carl Engels
A debate tournament was started recently to allow DART users to showcase their skills in a competitive way. Ten DART users entered the tournament as debaters and two entered as judges. According to tournament organizer BearMan,“Every single round, one person is eliminated and ties are not allowed.” However, suspicions have grown about the tournament, especially around its organizer. The bear is the symbol of Russia, which indicates that BearMan could be a Russian agent. This theory is strengthened by the very nature of the event. No sane, decent person would ever consent to civilly discussing a disagreement. Furthermore, debaters were randomly assigned a side on the issues, forcing some of them to argue against their beliefs. How can any properly adjusted person be expected to argue against the position that they unthinkingly believe because their favorite politician said so? This is clearly a Russian plot! Today, they’re trying to trick us into thinking that people who disagree with us aren’t literal fascists, which they obviously are. Tomorrow, they’ll have us thinking that people on the other side of the political spectrum might actually be right about something! Oh, the humanity!
Carl Engels is a writer from California and the recently published author of Real Socialism: Why We’ll Get It Right This Time.
Report: Oromagi Close to Reaching 88 MPH in his DeLorean
By Trum Porter
According to a recent report, DART’s King of the Hill oromagi is getting close to reaching 88 mph in his DeLorean. The number one debater, who will soon win his 87th debate, was able to complete his flux capacitor after his 86th win. Now that he has completed the last piece of his time machine, the only remaining problem is to find a source that can supply 1.21 gigawatts of power. If oromagi can get that much power, it will be an impressive achievement: that much power hasn’t been harnessed by any DART user since Bsh1 Franklin stood outside during Hurricane Utopia Crumbles while holding a kite with a wire running down the string. But for the DART King, this will doubtless be a minor obstacle. Oromagi has yet to announce what he will do when he gets his DeLorean to 88 mph with 1.21 gigawatts of power; however, many speculate that he will use it to go back to the future to read all of his opponent’s upcoming arguments and give a book full of future sports scores to his younger self.
Trum Porter is an Oklahoma-based journalist and the author of multiple books, including best-sellers Constantine: Making Rome Great Again and Orange Man Good.
DART Users Callously Celebrate Hall of Fame Elections as though the Environment Isn’t Being Destroyed all around Them.
By Environmental Wacko
Earlier this week, DART moderators kicked off the second annual Hall of Fame nomination and election process, which celebrates the best users, threads, and debates of the year. DART users are gladly participating in this event, despite the fact that the environment is being destroyed all around them. While species are going extinct and ocean levels are rising, DART users are handing out compliments to nominees like candy. They even have the audacity to nominate high-quality debates filled with rational and civil discussion. This is appalling. There can be no debate. There are only two types of people: those that advocate for the most expensive, farthest left environmental agenda possible, and those flat-earthers who stick their fingers in their ears and scream anti-science slogans while burning textbooks. Heedless of this, users on DART continue to have fun with their science-denying Hall of Fame. You are the Nero who fiddles while Rome burns. How dare you have fun and celebrate while the environment is being destroyed RIGHT NOW. I can’t even with you people. How DARE you.
Environmental Wacko is a climate activist, blogger, and professional basket-weaver.
Opinion: RationalMadman’s Ban is a Sign of the End Times
By Conspi Theo
RationalMadman, DART’s most active user, has been temporarily banned. This is a clear sign of the end times. Just look at his profile picture! Do you see what it is? A symbol! You know what another name for symbol is? A sign. WOW! Also, take a look at this: He was banned on 8/12/2020 until 9/23/2020. Both of those numbers have 3 2s. Three is the number of the Trinity, and 2 is the number of times Jesus will have come to earth at the end times. Amazing! But now look at the numbers that are left when you remove the 2s. In the first date, 8 and 1 are left, and 8-1=7, which is the Hebrew number of perfection! In the second date, 9 and 3 are left, and 9+3=12, which is the number of the tribes of Israel! Powerful stuff. And just look at the name RationalMadman. Paul said he was a fool for Christ. Sounds like a Rational Madman tome! It’s clear: the end times are coming. Can I get an amen or what?
Conspi Theo is a biblical scholar and scientist who lives on his own in the West Virginia forests, where he spends his time attempting to track down new, large, bipedal species of apes. When he isn’t researching, he operates a business that sells custom items made of tinfoil, including a wildly popular series of hats.
SPORTS
Town Wins Two Games Straight
By ScumAnonymous
Well, town on DART has won the last two games of mafia, and I just can’t even. First town won in Stormlight Archives,and then in the States Mafia. I gotta say, my state is pretty stormy right now, and there ain’t a lot of light. Town MVP in the States Mafia was oromagi, and the scum least dreadful player was Discipulus_SpellingNamesIsHardus. It dragged on for 6 day phases, and finished in a long, lonely night. Mafia also lost in the Stormlight Archives, and there wasn’t even a town MVP because the mafia was so – sob – terrible. And now the most recent mafia game is called Naruto Mafia. That’s right, they compared to fearsome mafia to an anime show. An anime show.I just – I – I don’t think I can handle this.
ScumAnonymous is a Chicago-based mafioso and sports writer.
MEMBERS
The great and mighty wizard oromagi performed some incantation by repeating Ramshutu’s name three times to bring him back on the site for a brief period. The Wizard’s Council is currently investigating him on suspicions of necromancy.
RationalMadman has been banned for rational madness. In other news, water, wet.
Ethang5 has been banned for irrational madness. Water is still wet.
TNBinc, vector, and lady3keys have joined DART. To our newcomers: I’m really, really sorry.
CLASSIFIED
Lunatic Louis Stevenson is looking for a publisher for his new book The Strange Case of Dr. Lunatic and Mr. Pattern.
Conspi Theo is still looking for someone to “Amen!” his end times predictions.
If you want to submit story suggestions or even complete stories to the DART, feel free to PM the editor!
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@Lunatic
I have absolutely no idea. If it is, it wasn't on purpose. I just searched for "medieval knight" until I found one I liked.
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@TNBinc
Don't edit your posts. If you do it to frequently, the mod may kick you out of the game. Also, bold your votes.
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@TNBinc
Is your character Union or Confederate? Don't say who your general is, just which side he's on.
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@Lunatic
@MisterChris
I don't mean my win record. I was referring to how frequently my vote is on a mafioso at the end of the DP. It's only happened twice. Of course, I've only been in 5 or so games as town, and it can be pretty random. However, we should probably stop fluffing the DP.
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@ILikePie5
@Crocodile
Unvote.
Tell us, soldier: are you a Yank or a Rebel?
VTL Crocodile
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@Lunatic
I know what you mean, but I still have an amazing record of a 0% success rate in scumhunting. For those of you who weren't around when I was, this isn't an exaggeration. I have only voted against scum twice: once when they conceded, and once when they failed to vote in LYLO, so the only person I could vote out was them. Hopefully, I break this streak this DP.
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@Lunatic
omg im so happy your playing btw.
Thanks!
I'll try to suppress my excitement in the future, but you were one of the better mafia players and our community took a hit when you left.
Yep, you're drunk. ;)
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@Vader
MisterChris joins the team, a noble steed!
You just called a vote mod a horse?
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@MisterChris
VTL MisterChris
You a Fed or a Reb?
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@Vader
Instead of ill feelings of anger or shame,
Put Supadudz in the Hall of - oh that's right, he IS in the Hall of Fame!
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@oromagi
Eh, I can't think of any downside to claiming Union or Confederate. I'm Union.
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@oromagi
C for the first question. As for the second, what's everyone else's opinion on outing our Confederate vs. Union affiliation? I suppose it would give us theme info, and I don't see an immediate downside to it. Still, someone else may have thought of a disadvantage to it that I haven't.
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@Vader
Thank you. It's good to play again. I still don't know what I'm doing, though. I was never good at scumhunting, and that's pretty much the most important part of the game.
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Hello, everyone. I haven't played with a bunch of you before, so we'll see how this goes. May the best knight win.
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You will never find a beat drop as hard as the finale of this song.
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@Barney
To me it reads like a sateric love letter to this community. I just wish there was a 2nd edition.
My sentiments exactly.
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Debates:
Congressional term limits
Seldiora vs Supadudz R1
Is Jesus the Messiah?
Threads:
DART Bard 1st Edition
I will stereotype debaters properly
MCU Characters DP1
Misc:
BrotherDThomas performance art. I can't help but enjoy reading his posts. They are the perfect level of over-top-ness.
ebuc's enigmas.
Alpha male. The link doesn't work for me, but the very idea is enough.
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@BrotherDThomas
Okay, so Paul was the NT Saul's Roman name, not his Greek name. Thanks for linking that, BrotherD!
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@Mharman
@Intelligence_06
A new professional American football league that plays in the spring to take advantage of the fact that no other football league plays in the spring (except this year because of covid). It would be nice to see it revived. While it will probably always be in the NFL's shadow, I won't complain about more football to watch.
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