Stephen

They day I heard that Jesus was in fact God , I went through my bible and replaced ALLLLLLL  the 500 and something words JESUS with GOD. 

Then I was told that that wouldn't work. 

What will one be actaully doing?  what is the "EVERYTHING"  that one will be doing? Playing football?  Swimming? Basket making? Sewing?  Bricklaying, Or kneeling at god feet & licking them and telling him how fkn great he is!!!?  

Im not going to reply to that because you are getting real stropy and you are pretending that you dont know what everything means just so you can do that. God will judge blasphemurs.

That's my question;  What will a person be doing for the eternal here and now?

You do everything in eternity

You cant even write properly and it is you who doesnt understand context because you asked a real dumb question when you said paradise but it should have been heaven

I think you will find that it was actually JESUS! that said paradise.

But it is you that put what I said out of context

You cant even write properly and it is you who doesnt understand context because you asked a real dumb question when you said paradise but it should have been heaven

He who lives in glass houses should not cast the first stone.

....they are not interchangeable words...

They can be.

And they are not interchangeable words either.  They are two distinct words with individual meanings in their own right

Yet the different versions of the bible does interchange them!

You are forgetting that your  god just loves the aroma of burning flesh; 

And yet He stopped Isaac being burned! Weird huh?

Why would  the prospect of living with your god be imagined as negative??

That was the point of my own thread. I want to know what one will  actually be doing for the rest of eternity?  Paradise;  then what? What happens then? What's the point of paradise? 

Jesus said that it does a man no good to take thought because thats when you start thinking all kinds of things and if it is a bad day your gonna think really negative things.

You are very confused because paradise is the garden of Eden and thats not in heaven right.

When you live in eternity there is no such thing as time so everything you do is here and now so you dont think about things like that.

Can you even read Stephen?

 Words which I have said before are words. Yes powerful words. Influential Words.

But not able to cause to do anything.

You might evaluate them and respond to them - but that is still you doing the responding or non-responding. 

Sacrifice him to whom?

....they are not interchangeable words...

They can be. Which is why some interpretations interchange them.

But what about  bibles that don't even mention the word offer? But sacrifice alone? 

I do not think the atheist tendency to believe words can have only one meaning in the bible is intelligent.

Anyway, Abraham did offer Isaac, and God stopped him after that,

showing that what God wanted was the offer, not the death.

Ethan, come on now. This is the verse, Genesis 22:2

Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about."

That's what the text says. Not offer: 

Wrong. That is what I mean by you don't know what you're talking about. I'm not trying to insult you. You aren't reading from a bible but probably from some atheist website or blog. Watch.

Here is what verse 2 says...and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell you of. KJV

See, sacrifice is used in the same sense as "offer". What version of the bible did your source use?

The bible is words.

 I am not sure why you are attempting to conflate the two. 

Your know exactly the way you attack me.

It is always an attempt to ridicule me. 

It is not like I need to remind you - just in order for you to use this as some how suggesting I am a victim. 

As for Ethan's post - go and ask him.

I am not his keeper.

And if you care - ask him - and if he cares he might respond.

And if he does not - then you will just need to suck it up. 

I asked a similar question in a thread of my  own and not a single person of  the  Christian faithful could answer. 

Maybe you would like to give it a go for me, Utanity? I would be interested in your take .

God doesn't want us to know all about heaven or else we are going to think too much about it and get all negative.

so you will never have time to get bored.

What Is It Like In Heaven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knx4M-NIayg

^A strong case against religion. I give all religious people the opportunity to address this.

"I got bored after listening to the out of context verses"

A kid.  Yep. And the only people likely to get sucked into it are probably other kids.  

A calling is not from the bible - it is from GOD the Holy Spirit.

Christians in the beginning of the church were Jewish people. They were not Gentiles. 

It is understandable why the Christians continued in the Jewish traditions in the first place and why they consider the term Judeo-Christian appropriate. 

The Christian position is that Jesus is the Messiah prophesied about in the OT. 

That this was recognized by some Jews at the time and that other Jews rejected him.

I am constantly amazed at the "secret knowledge" that you alone are privy to. 

What would be helpful in the discussion is this. For an atheist to produce any evidence that GOD does not exist.  

You're asking the juror in a criminal case to prove that the person accused by the prosecution didn't do what they're accused of. That's not how it works. Theists essentially accuse god of existing. Atheists simply say "Let's evaluate the evidence," then you present terrible evidence, and when we find ourselves unconvinced, you essentially tell the jury to prove your case is faulty and how.  LEt's take an example: you wake up tomorrow to find our your neighbor, who lived alone, was killed in their house overnight. You and your neighbor were not at odds, and you live alone. It's reasonable to assume, according to your standard, that you murdered your neighbor because (a) he's dead and (b) he's your neighbor and (c)  you can't prove that you didn't do it. In your estimation, should you be arrested? Where should the burden of proof be in this case?  In a court of law, you don't get to accuse someone of murder, then wait for the defense attorney to prove definitively that their client DIDN'T do it. You are making the claim, you have to provide the evidence. If you were accused of a crime, would you want the law to treat you thus? "The accusation of a crime is evidence of that crime, so therefore, Tradesecret, you must prove definitively that you didn't do what we're accusing you of, if you can't, you did it"? 

ETA: the reason I'm not the defense attorney is atheists are NOT accusing god(s) of not existing.  Atheists only evaluate the evidence and come to a conclusion. YOu're mistaking "I don't see any reason to believe what you're telling me is true, so I'm concluding that your argument is wrong, and it looks for all intents and purposes like no god esists to me," for  plainly "God doesn't exist and I am sure of it and can prove it." 

 She is saying that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should Joe Biden concede the election.

She was saying under no circumstances should he do that.

and see what she advised Biden >>>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44AbGEHhzg4

she is saying ...........................

Would the Dems have conceded ? 

lol, you're kidding right? Yes. Hilary conceded

Are you then suggesting that Trump should concede and hand over the reigns?

of course. 

there is probably a very good reason crony corporate media has no access to the evidence.

Im not the one who made a generalization about her integrity. you are.

she is making dangerous accusations without any evidence whatsoever to back it up.

I seem to recall he was in the penalty box for six months. 

"It is clear you don't know the story, and much less the context. But that is OK, you are like 99% of the atheists here".

Doesn't pediatric cancer prove that God is evil?

Why did god require a test at all, doesn't god know Abraham's faith?

Also, you bolded his mother's lineage which is not relevant. 

If John was from the proper family/lineage to be a "priest" then that is what his caste would be. He would not have been anointed, nor COULD he be the messiah in any other sense.

Just for novelties sake, why don't you try 'not taking the anti-theist approach?

And making an 'earnest effort to understand what positive views or values someone could take from such a story, or it's relation to their culture and history?

Some people's antitheism wouldn't bother me 'so much, if I didn't find it so shallow.

You can oppose a viewpoint without straw manning and insulting it.

Stating the obvious to atheists and being jerks, are two reasons I've never been impressed much with the 'New 'Atheists.

or tell us what Herod meant. That is the whole point of this thread , did you miss the title? 

I have 

I have been tempted to post the contents of the PMs between Ragnar

It was you that come onto my own thread.

This isn't your thread.

 I know. And I haven't said it is. I said it wasn't yours. Keep up sunshine.

You said, "It was you that come onto my own thread." This isn't your own thread.

You made a claim. You haven't supported your won claims.  It is a baseless claim made only from what only you believe you heard , seen or read. It is a totally unsupported claim.

Why do you think I need to prove it to you?

OK. So if I make a claim any claim about anything are you going to accept my claim without any supporting evidence or proof? 

No. 

You was also told that you couldn't use  "because the Bible says so".  But that didn't stop you telling us that it was verses in   the bible to believe it was true. Which, to my own delight,  you did by quoting two verses from the bible that tell you us caused you to  "find out"  it is true

The verses told me what to do in order to find out if the words were true. I did it and found out the bible is true. Had I done it and not found out, I would have concluded the bible is not true. All you need is to read more slowly and take off the bias glasses.

Here you are right from the Reverends mouth...

I don't know what this has to do with you or me. Stay on topic.

Yet here you are,   telling us that just 40  words out of  the 783,137 in the bible, caused you  to "find out"  the bible was all true.

Finding out that I got exactly what the words told me I would get if I followed their directions proved to me that they were true.

Calm down

Just because you keep repeating the same question - does not make it a good question or even a question that arises from the passage.

You may call it a cop out, but it is a matter of study and discussion based on sources and proofs, not an off the cuff dance away from anything. Jewish interpretation is complex and based in texts that go beyond the written bible.

you said "I am saying because she  has such a great unblemished integrity". 

 Can you find anything to the contrary. Because I can't.

there is very little information about her at all.

Therefore you cannot possibly know if she has integrity.

GREAT!!!!!  Then let us all see your evidence that they have no evidence although these million dollar lawyers say they have it .

lol, do you even see the contradiction you just said.

"The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord," (1 Corinthians 6:14 )

"Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body."  (1 Corinthians 6:19-20 )

"Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple." (1 Corinthians 3:16-17)