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Christianity won't be # 1 much longer.
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@Dr.Franklin
his point wasnt about sheer numbers his point was how christianity seems to be in every region successfully while other religions are not.......

........YET!

By the percentage of the total population in a region considering themselves Muslim, 91% in the Middle East-North Africa (MENA), 89% in Central Asia, 40% in Southeast Asia, 31% in South Asia, 30% in Sub-Saharan Africa, 25% in Asia.

This is before we count the rapid growth of Islam in the west.  https://www.pewforum.org/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/

" in some countries, such as France and Sweden, the Muslim share of the population is higher. And, in the coming decades, the Muslim share of the continent’s population is expected to grow – and could more than double, according to Pew Research Center projections.



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" Allah give me strength not to kill these white men and white folks"
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@oromagi
I'll just draw people's attention to the 2016 dateline of this story.  What Stephen fails to report is [.........]... 
 

that BLM was created by self confessed "trained Marxist" 

Black Lives Matter co-founder describes herself as ‘trained Marxist’

"Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report.
Cullors, 36, was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology that shaped her worldview,




*AND*


The British arm of Black Lives Matter's full agenda - abolish the police, smash capitalism... and close all prisons

"It explains that the organisation intends to be ‘guided by a commitment to dismantle imperialism, capitalism, white supremacy, patriarchy and the state structures that disproportionately harm black people in Britain and around the world’"


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Christianity won't be # 1 much longer.

A question asked by someone here who is going to have to face a few home truths and facts.


Ethang5 asked:

Why Is Christianity #1?

But also dying a very speedy  death . It is being stealthily replaced by that barbaric ideology called Islam.  Maybe the time of the fish has passed, who knows?



I am so glad I won't be here to see its complete takeover. Watching it happen is torture enough. They'll soon have you mumbling into a carpet every Friday ethang5, see if Jesus helps you then.  Hold on!  Isn't Jehovah, Allah and Jesus all the same god? 

Europe’s Growing Muslim Population
Muslims are projected to increase as a share of Europe’s population – even with no future migration



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Darwin images
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@ronjs
If science believes what Darwin believed about' favoured races' then ,yes, science is racist.

Is survival of the fittest racist? Keeping in mind that fittest in the Darwin sense also meant mentally as well as physically  fittest. 

And are you sure that "science believes what Darwin believed about' favoured races'" - and not favoured species?
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Christians don't read their Bible
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@RoderickSpode
Christians don't read their Bible

Does that include you ?

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" Allah give me strength not to kill these white men and white folks"
What an extremely pleasant lady.

Celebrated BLM Toronto leader called white people ‘subhuman’ and with genetic defects’ 



  Social media posts from a co-founder of the Black Lives Matter movement in Toronto have resurfaced in which she calls white people “subhuman” and describes them as having “recessive genetic defects.” In a since-deleted post, Yusra Khogali tried to use genetics to justify the highly offensive and racist descriptors by referencing melatonin production to explain how whites are “defects.” The old Facebook post has since gone viral after being shared on Twitter by scholar James Lindsay. “A charming message from the head of BLM Toronto, who has been honored (a few years ago) by the city of Ontario for exemplary leadership,” he wrote in the message, which features a graphic of Khogali’s post. Another post retweeted by a user simply going by the handle “Adam” includes a graphic depicting a Feb. 9, 2016, Twitter message by Khogali that says, “Plz Allah give me strength not to cuss/kill these white men and white folks out here toda ...

BLM the irony
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The Free Will-Omniscience Dilemma
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@BrotherDThomas
 Don't you love it when PGA2.0 brings forth their ever so wanting assumptions, hearsay, and subjective opinions, where not one is biblically vouchsafed?

He's not on his own when it comes to this kind of deceit Brother.

 PGA2.0 is again rewriting the scriptures in the name of Satan!  

They cannot help themselves. They should try praying something into the bible that isn't there.    This would solve many of their problems and save them the trouble of  having to make things up , invent dialogue and simply tell out and out lies. As ethang does quite often when you show him what's what in all things biblical.

Then again, what did you expect from a Preterist that erroneous accepts that Jesus' 2nd coming already happened in AD70 which throws the whole Bible into a tail spin!
I know. I should never expected too much. But they just cannot help themselves. There is also the plain out and out lying that they resort to when completely on the back-foot and have painted themselves into a corner.


Stephen, that's right, have you seen ethang5 running past your house tearing pages from the Bible along the way,

 I did Brother. Like lightening bolt from the blue. I attempted to pose him a question but he was gone in a flash, Usain Bolt had nothing on him.
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@ethang5
Let's discuss the content of scripture homer -[................................] Can words have more than one meaning Abdul?
Those  will be covered by:
(12) Try to shame the questioner. (13) Persistently address the questioner in derogatory terms, then complain that you are being picked on when the compliment is returned.  (14) 


Can you discuss the content of scripture or will you again dodge

that will be covered by:  (16) Accuse others of doing what it is you constantly do yourself. (17) Doctor members comments to enable you to respond to a question.



for the gentle reader.

Keep in mind all the aforementioned: 

(1) rewrite the scriptures.  (2) Put words into the mouths of the biblical authors.  (3) Put words into the mouths of the biblical characters. (4) Put words into the mouth of Jesus himself . (5) Exhibit double standards.  (6) Exhibit hypocrisy. (7)  Answer a question with a question of your own. (8) Respond to  genuine  questions with sarcasm. (9)  Redirect the question to something you believe is easier to answer.  (10)  Ignore the questions altogether and don't answer it. (11) pretend you were never asked a question. (12) Try to shame the questioner. (13) Persistently address the questioner in derogatory terms, then complain that you are being picked on when the compliment is returned.  (14)  Often use the 'answer me first' tactic.  (15) Redefine words to suit your narrative and agenda. (16) Accuse others of doing what it is you constantly do yourself. (17) Doctor members comments to enable you to respond to a question. (18) purposefully derail a thread where you have embarrassed your self or been embarrassed by another member.  And (19) and  the one that you continually use,  Tell bare faced lies


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@ethang5
Then why can't you answer the questions put to you?

I did but you cannot see it. They intended to by arms. now you tell us why?

Why such a command to bare arms? What were they expected to use them for? What was going to cause them to have to use them?  And who were they going to use them against?  And hurry up about it instead of your usual bullshit and pointless filibuster  




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@bmdrocks21

Brilliant idea! If we just informed gang members that murder and drug trafficking were bad, maybe they would stop! 

It may be a bit of an ask bmdrocks21, to ask anyone to memories all the lyrics to, "🎵 🎶 ♯ ♫ ♬ Stop! don't touch me 🎶 ♯ there, this is my no,no square  🎵 🎶 ♯ ,♫ ♬  .♩ ♪  ♭ ♮ "

If only little Ellie had known about this 11 word song she would have  saved herself from her traumatic experience and horrific injuries.


ELLIE WILLIAMS "MUSLIM RAPE GANG" CASE BLOWING UP IN THE U.K.



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The Free Will-Omniscience Dilemma

[A.] He was the federal head.   [B.] Thus, he represented Eve and us in his decision.



A. That status of "head" as you have put came AFTER and not before. I pointed this out above. 

"and he will rule over you.” Genesis 3:16

B.  Stop making things up.  There is no biblical reference or evidence that Adam had, or was given any type of authority over Eve,  before  the"knowing" went on between the serpent lord and Eve in the absence of the Adam.

Your long-winded wordy argument isn't worth the time it has taken you to write it. 




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Exploration of the Religious Thinker: Interview #3 - Press(F4Respect)
I find it incredibly interesting how the author wishes to delve  into  and explore  the minds and thoughts of others but when it comes to his own >>>>  #9




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Do Christians hear voices in the head?

@  the cowardly and spineless RATIONALMADMAN! 

I was just helping to clear up a misunderstanding you had with zedvictor.
Well don't. He is more than capable of  doing his own house work, and doesn't need a boring nauseating coward such as you to do it for him. 


A coward would be someone too afraid to reply to you. Anyway, I'll leave you be.

But I din't ask you anything did I?  You have just taken it upon yourself to answer for someone else  on someone else's behalf  without being asked to. 

And you are a coward. It is cowardly to have me on block and then respond to me ESPECIALLY on someone else's behalf?

 Do not respond to me again. I don't want you to. I don't want anything to do with you,  at all,  while you have me on block. If you keep this up, I will regard it as harassment by you towards me. So for the second time -  go away and irritate someone else you boring nauseating poltroon.
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@  the cowardly and spineless RATIONALMADMAN! 


STOP! responding to me while you have me on block , you dirty little coward and @zedvictor4 mentions nothing of reading and writing he says "all the time". 
There appears to be a contradiction in what he is saying, but I don't expect you to have noticed.


After all, you hadn't  even noticed that the bible itself suggested that Lucifer and Jesus are one and the same 2,020 YEARS!!!!!!! before you made the claim that it was you!!
Now go away and irritate someone else you boring nauseating poltroon.
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@ spineless FAUXLAW shouting from the sidelines AGAIN. 

It appears all this is accomplished is my-culture-can-beat-up-your-culture. I don't think that's the purpose of culture.

 That is because one culture WILL beat - up - your - culture if given the chance. It is the Islamic  duty of Muslims to convert the world to Islam and by the sword if needs be. 

Your just a little wimp who refuses to see this and pretends it is not happening.  And it is because of the likes of YOU that  cultures are being stealthy overrode ALL OVER Europe assisted by twats such as the Finland’s Oulu city council.


Tell me O fkn wise one, why do you believe that Finland’s Oulu city council felt the need to put this STUPID anti rape video out in the first place?


 You  won't have seen this from under your bed but keep scrolling until you see some of the horrific injuries inflicted on her by Pakistani Muslims who believe all white western children and women are cattle to be raped  abused, sold, trafficked and tortured.>>  

ELLIE WILLIAMS "MUSLIM RAPE GANG" CASE BLOWING UP IN THE U.K.



Do you actually  believe that these animals would have been persuaded not to harm this little girl if she had sang and danced the "no , no" song!!!? If you do you are as sick as those bastards who nearly killed this young girl.


"🎵 🎶 ♯ ♫ ♬ stop! don't touch me 🎶 ♯ there, this is my no,no square  🎵 🎶 ♯ ,♫ ♬  .♩ ♪  ♭ ♮ "


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@zedvictor4

As I suggested, all people hear voices in their head all the time

I would further suggest that most people do not even consider this normal function at all.

Was that a typo, Vic?





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@RoderickSpode
Christians don't read their Bible Or, most Christians don't read their Bible.

Does that include you? 
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The Free Will-Omniscience Dilemma
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@BrotherDThomas
And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.”  (1 Timothy 2:14)”. Get it? Huh?

   Besides, how could Adam be held culpable to sinning first  since he had not received the knowledge of right and wrong that the Tree would give him in knowing the sin scenario?! 

The times I have posed this very question to the devout Christian and have been met with silence is  innumerable, Brother.

And my follow up question is why was only the man expelled and not the woman? Genesis 3:23

Of course,  I have found them to be unable to relise that they cannot answer the follow-up question without answering the first, but lord, do they try. One Christian even once told me that " only the Adam was expelled because he didn't beat Eve to death for condemning the human race to the fires of hell, as he was responsible for her". Can you believe it ? 

This is not to mention that Eve wasn't given the instruction by god NOT to eat of the tree of "knowing".  And  do you notice, that  all of this "knowing" happened in the absence of the Adam,  while the Adam wasn't even present and the Eve was  alone with the serpent lord that this "knowing "went on.

Strange too that  pregnancy and child baring was mentioned almost immediately after the "knowing" went on. 

16 To the woman he said,
“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
    with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
    and he will rule over you.”

 But this was all free will, according to most Christians.   It doesn't sound like "free will" if it comes with a punishment of death , now does it , Brother.

And notice, that the - " and he will rule over you" -  comes AFTER  the "knowing" and not before.
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@ludofl3x
Everyone has experienced intuition.[................]And if someone told you the story of Abraham and Isaac in modern context, you'd think they should be in a mental institution. 

Indeed,  This is where my intuition would kick in . 
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@BrotherDThomas
 If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1:6-9)

O dear, deary me! 

I come across this habit of people rewriting scripture quite often Brother. I find it is a tactic usually used by those who have deemed themselves to have : well,  read it from the horses mouth above #4 for  yourself:



I have a really good grasp on these scriptures because I have been studying them and applying them for a long time. 

....only to find this never to be the case. I have found when simply challenged on anything biblical , they resort to all sort of shenanigans  including the "rewriting scripture" when stuck for a straight and simple answer. 

I am not sure if Revelation is referring to  bible tampering as a whole,  but if I was a Christian, I would be concerned about adding things and omitting from scripture when reading this  frightful and cautionary verse>>

Revelation 22:18  For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.

and this one>>

Revelation 22:19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.



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@Dr.Franklin
it is the stupidest thing in the world



What is this>>Part of a 2.5 Million euro program to deter potential migrant rapist and teach them how to behave towards girls and women.

To a  migrant rapist ; "🎵 🎶 ♯ ♫ ♬ stop! don't touch me 🎶 ♯ there, this is my no,no square  🎵 🎶 ♯ ,♫ ♬  .♩ ♪  ♭ ♮ "



Or multiculturalism? 

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@Dr.Franklin
the original video was on paul jospeh watson first

I first spotted it on Paul's YT channel https://www.youtube.com/user/PrisonPlanetLive

all the same:

"Finland’s Oulu city council roasted online for feeble “no-no square” dance to combat rape.

A TikTok video designed to raise awareness of sexual abuse in Finland has gone viral and received a lot of attention – but not necessarily for the reasons that they may have anticipated. 
A video from the account @sannanopsa, representing the Finnish city of Oulu, was created to raise awareness of child sexual abuse and empowering people to be aware of rape.

"While the video certainly did open up a conversation surrounding sexual abuse and the correct (and incorrect ways) to tackle it, the video’s vitality has given the world a glimpse into the Oulu city council, and they’re being roasted heavily for it online".

 You should read some of the comments doc


It's no so funny is it when millions  should go towards supporting the  thousands of victims.
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@ EtrnlVw shouting from behind the tall folk and leading from the back:  

while he has me on block :
Don't be too hard on them, their a bit volatile. {............................} pretending people  [you ] are scared

There you go again. encouraging and inciting others to do what you can't do yourself.  I suppose you are just apathetic to the fact the a member has only just returned from a long ban of which  was more than likely caused by your ability to incite  other dupes to do your dirty work.  Always shouting from the sidelines aren't you or leading from the back? 


I will say it again. You keep putting in the bullets and he and other dupes will surely fire them  .... for you. 
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@BrotherDThomas
NOTE: Not once did ethang5 provide biblical vouchsafing to his assumed knowledge, NOT ONCE! The only thing the number 1 Bible fool provided was his own ever so wanting assumptions, hearsay, and subjective opinions that biblically fall flat upon their proverbial face! As seen many times before, what ethang5 personally thinks he knows, does not align with the Bible where literally the last word is to be taken over ethangs ungodly words!

I did note and  found that I couldn't have put that better, Brother.


ETHANG5’S BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE #1:  “As God is not the decision maker, His knowledge has no baring on the probability of the outcome of the decision. I don't think that needs further explanation. You've made a logical error.”

As usual, ethang5’s Bible ignorance stands to the forefront  once again! In general, as shown below, Yahweh/Jesus/Ghost does makes decisions for his followers:

“Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.” (Proverbs 3:5-6) 

O dear




ETHANG5’S BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE #1:  “As God is not the decision maker, His knowledge has no baring on the probability of the outcome of the decision. I don't think that needs further explanation. You've made a logical error.”  As usual, ethang5’s Bible ignorance stands to the forefront  once again! In general, as shown below, Yahweh/Jesus/Ghost does makes decisions for his followers:

If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him.” (James 1:5)

O dear ,O dear.



ETHANG5’S BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE #1:  “As God is not the decision maker, His knowledge has no baring on the probability of the outcome of the decision. I don't think that needs further explanation. You've made a logical error.”  As usual, ethang5’s Bible ignorance stands to the forefront  once again! In general, as shown below, Yahweh/Jesus/Ghost does makes decisions for his followers:


“For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope.” (Jeremiah 29:11)
O dear ,O dear, O dear.



ETHANG5’S BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE #1:  “As God is not the decision maker, His knowledge has no baring on the probability of the outcome of the decision. I don't think that needs further explanation. You've made a logical error.”  As usual, ethang5’s Bible ignorance stands to the forefront  once again! In general, as shown below, Yahweh/Jesus/Ghost does makes decisions for his followers:

The heart of man plans his way, but the Lord establishes his steps.” (Proverbs 16:9)

O dear ,O dear, O dear ,O dear.
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 @ FAUXLAW

I ask how you justify 
You have no right to ask me anything you coward,  you have me blocked.!!!! this is simply antagonism and harassment.

I am asking you to stay off my threads.  This is now harassment. I do not want to communicate with you, AT ALL at ANYTIME


You have followed me around this boards making comments on MY threads when I cannot respond to you directly because  you have me blocked. It is a cowards way of communicating. So AGAIN I am asking you not to communicate with me ESPECIALLY on my own threads.
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@Greyparrot
@TheDredPriateRoberts wrote: I just can't imagine how it got to that point, where it's going and how it will be fixed if it will be at all.

@Greyparrot wrote: Systemic multiculturalism and systemic tribalism have divided this country into warring competitive factions. Change my mind.

The thing here is that those leaders who forced multiculturalism onto its citizens with penalties for complaining about it  and well before it got uncontrollable and out of hand,  are now backpedaling and saying only that "multiculturalism hasn't worked".  and that "it has failed".  
David Cameron British PM

"multiculturalism has failed, says David Cameron" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12371994

The German chancellor, Angela Merkel,

"This [multicultural] approach has failed, utterly failed," Merkel told the meeting in Potsdam, west of Berlin, yesterday.The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, has courted growing anti-immigrant opinion in Germany by claiming the country's attempts to create a multicultural society have "utterly failed".
Speaking to a meeting of young members of her Christian Democratic Union party, Merkel said the idea of people from different cultural backgrounds living happily "side by side did not work".https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-german-multiculturalism-failed

But  it is the poor and working class citizens of said countries  who get lumbered with this shite  and are forced to live with the consequences of their irresponsible actions after their governments had foisted this "experiment" onto them. 

The police and social services and the Main Stream Media for years now have been covering up the Pakistani Muslim rape gang culture here in the UK for over 40 years!

The most recent being a British white girl was gang raped and  beaten by a Muslim rape gang  and the police didn't do a thing about it when she reported it to them. Ellie Williams then posted her story  and and pictures of her horrific injuries on her face book and she got arrested awaiting trial in custody for ....... perverting the cause of justice. You couldn't make it up
 Ellie Williams' story is all over the internet but you won't see it on a single main steam media outlet

And the few occasions the media have been forced to report on these gangs  that consist of over 20-30 rapist members,  they have lumped together all of them as "Asian grooming gangs". If I was a Japanese or Chinese guy living in the UK, I would take serious offence at that.
and there is the playing down of the seriousness of the crimes by using the word "grooming" when this is out and out rape and sex trafficking of young white girls being abducted, drugged and systematically raped . And  of those Pakistani rape gang members who are arrested after much public pressure simply flee back to "Asia" after being released on bail. 

"Asian grooming gang free to roam streets because officers were told to 'find other ethnicities' to investigate, detective claims"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/14/police-officers-knowingly-neglected-girls-exploited-grooming/


To a  migrant rapist ; "🎵 🎶 ♯ ♫ ♬ stop! don't touch me 🎶 ♯ there, this is my no,no square  🎵 🎶 ♯ ,♫ ♬  .♩ ♪  ♭ ♮ "

doesn't seem so funny now, does it?

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@ethang5
You've made a logical error.
? Is that a made up term?  I have to wonder if god made many of those, logically?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
I hoped with all my being it would hit the earth and end this shit show.
 I have heard praying works, if you' ll only believe. You'll  have to wait for the next fly by too .
 
My daughters and sons have watched that tard video (below for those who missed it) numerous times now and are genuinely worried for my  granddaughters,  if that is all that they can come up with  to protect our girls. I tried to reassure them  that it won't happen here in the UK. But they know different, and in truth, so do I.

The rape culture and cover up's of, here in the UK are off the scale.  And as the Doc said above #2 -  Dr.Franklin " thats not gonna stop rapes"...


To a  migrant rapist ; "🎵 🎶 ♯ ♫ ♬ stop! don't touch me 🎶 ♯ there, this is my no,no square  🎵 🎶 ♯ ,♫ ♬  .♩ ♪  ♭ ♮ "


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@TheDredPriateRoberts
bubububu diversity, refuges......so their culture is a bit rapey, they should make more secure chastity belts and dance videos, obviously if they don't, it's their own fault, it's just part of their culture, such intolerance and lack of understanding, how shameful, who needs a 2a when you can just swing your purse.....seriously wtf.
 Hahhahahahhahahahhahahahha My ribs hurt
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@Dr.Franklin
That's real doc. That is the world the libtards want us to live in. 

Did you view it all , doc?
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@zedvictor4
one step back into the cave.

 I have watched these mindless rioters, vandals and murderers and wonder, did some of us ever leave it.
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@HistoryBuff
my point is[.....................]

 Yes I know what your point is and I have to keep repeating what I have already said time and time again. I won't be doing it anymore. Now for once, do the right thing on this thread and produce evidence for your claims and stop telling me what I haven't claimed.


So I will once again ask you to show us all how a single thing in this video implies that this BLACK women is suggesting that she is trying to excuse the actions of the clear and  murderous actions of this white officer and suggests that she made this video to help the white officer "get away with " anything.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jyq_R7HJTQ


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Part of a 2.5 Million euro program to deter potential migrant rapist and teach them how to behave towards girls and women.

To a  migrant rapist ; "🎵 🎶 ♯ ♫ ♬ stop! don't touch me 🎶 ♯ there, this is my no,no square  🎵 🎶 ♯ ,♫ ♬  .♩ ♪  ♭ ♮ "


You couldn't make it up? 
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@ethang5
Christians never seem to be able to or really want to discuss the actual content of biblical scriptures themselves
I can cite more than 5 threads right now where you ran away from discussing the content of scripture. Would you like me to?

(1)  I see that you have started as you mean to go on. LYING!



So, the intention is clear at [A] and [B]...
And what is that intention Stevie? You don't say.

(2) Because the intention is clear.  They are all told to  arm themselves even if it means selling their underpants. This is an extreme command if they were not intending to use those swords and on top of that Jesus makes it very clear he hasn't come to bring peace. 

 But you seen this all in my op and  you have tried to poke holes in the very contradiction shown by [C] and failed.  And  pretending  or imagining Jesus may  have said something  in addition to this command won't explain that away as much as I know you rare going to use that excuse. .  So Away with your nonsense. He didn't tell his hoards of followers to arm themselves if they were simply going to go about their  daily business of fishing , inn keeping  and begging while Jesus performed his "miracles".

The Christian should be asking why such a command to bare arms? What were they expected to use them for? What was going to cause them to have to use them?  And who were they going to use them against.  




...that is until we get to [C] which contradicts both [A] & [B].
How? You haven't told us the intention of A, B, or C. Should we assume? How do they contradict?

(3)    See (2)  above.



Now see, I'm a Christian wanting to discuss the content of scripture,

(4)  OH Goody!  Now lets see how long it is before you,   (1) rewrite the scriptures.  (2) Put words into the mouths of the biblical authors.  (3) Put words into the mouths of the biblical characters. (4) Put words into the mouth of Jesus himself . (5) Exhibit double standards.  (6) Exhibit hypocrisy. (7)  Answer a question with a question of your own. (8) Respond to  genuine  questions with sarcasm. (9)  Redirect the question to something you believe is easier to answer.  (10)  Ignore the questions altogether and don't answer it. (11) pretend you were never asked a question. (12) Try to shame the questioner. (13) Persistently address the questioner in derogatory terms, then complain that you are being picked on when the compliment is returned.  (14)  Often use the 'answer me first' tactic.  (15) Redefine words to suit your narrative and agenda. (16) Accuse others of doing what it is you constantly do yourself. (17) Doctor members comments to enable you to respond to a question. (18) purposefully derail a thread where you have embarrassed your self or been embarrassed by another member.  And (19) and  the one that you continually use,  Tell bare faced lies


I note you have exhibited some of the above already.


Q: If Jesus told his disciples to carry a sword, did that necessarily mean He wanted them to use it in every situation?
(5)  No.  He wanted them to learn cake mixing and needle work and sewing. and  that will be covered by (2) Putting words into the mouths of the biblical authors.
 


Jesus could have told His disciples to get a sword, but could have told them not to use one in a particular situation.

(6) That will come under (1) rewriting the scriptures..(2) Putting words into the mouths of the biblical authors. 4) Put words into the mouth of Jesus himself.  
You are doing well.


What? You knew this already?

(7)  No. And that too will come under (1) rewrite the scriptures. 


Of course you did Gentle Reader. A 12 year old child knows this. People not suffering from God Derangement Syndrome (GDS) know this. People with common sense know this. 
(8)  I think you might mean Christians  may think they know this once you have (1) rewritten the scriptures. for them. 


I take it as a direct insult when I am told that I "cannot read". 
Your reading comprehension skills are exceptionally poor.

 (9)  That will be  (13) Persistently address the questioner in derogatory terms,




 Basically you act as if words can have only one meaning. That greatly hampers your reading comprehension.
(10) That will come under (15) Redefine words to suit your narrative and agenda.  & possibly (17) Doctor members comments to enable you to respond to a question.



In every thread I can cite, you dodged questions, became vulgar and loud, and then ran away. Would you like me to cite them? Your comments are contradicted by your history.

(11)  I believe the above is covered by (16) Accuse others of doing what it is you constantly do yourself. (17) Doctor members comments to enable you to respond to a question.  And (18) and  the one that you continually use,  Tell bare faced lies. 


Would you like me to cite them?

(12) No.  I would like you to bring them to the top of the religion forum board so we can all see who ran from whom. and who committed all the  aforementioned deceitful tactics.  I wouldn't want you banned so soon after your much needed break, by "contaminating another thread" , that you will no doubt attempt to derail, once you are on the back-foot. See (18) Purposefully derail a thread where you have embarrassed your self or been embarrassed by another member .


became vulgar and loud,

I gave as good as I received.  MY, that was a long ban wasn't it?  What ever could you have done to deserve such a penalty?



for the gentle reader.

Keep in mind all the aforementioned: 

(1) rewrite the scriptures.  (2) Put words into the mouths of the biblical authors.  (3) Put words into the mouths of the biblical characters. (4) Put words into the mouth of Jesus himself . (5) Exhibit double standards.  (6) Exhibit hypocrisy. (7)  Answer a question with a question of your own. (8) Respond to  genuine  questions with sarcasm. (9)  Redirect the question to something you believe is easier to answer.  (10)  Ignore the questions altogether and don't answer it. (11) pretend you were never asked a question. (12) Try to shame the questioner. (13) Persistently address the questioner in derogatory terms, then complain that you are being picked on when the compliment is returned.  (14)  Often use the 'answer me first' tactic.  (15) Redefine words to suit your narrative and agenda. (16) Accuse others of doing what it is you constantly do yourself. (17) Doctor members comments to enable you to respond to a question. (18) purposefully derail a thread where you have embarrassed your self or been embarrassed by another member.  And (19) and  the one that you continually use,  Tell bare faced lies












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That he was not a saint makes him no less a victim.

 I agree. He was a victim of murder. What more D'ya want?
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Candace Owens is trash [............]I was going to write a more thoughtful response about how tone deaf and idiotic this perspective is (focusing on George Floyd's criminal record), but I just don't have the energy ...

Or the intelligence or a decent  command of English to string together few words that  tell & support your reasons why you believe that "Candace Owens is trash".  I am relieved.


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Wrong.  AGAIN. I am condemning the murder and violence and vandalism, and  you clearly know I am.  show me where it is that  I have "lumped them all together. I have wrote only of the  murder and violence and vandalism by rioters.
ok, perhaps i have misunderstood your point. so a couple of questions. 

No. What you did was read my comment, took offence and then purposefully misrepresented my comment preferring to  substitute my words your own words and then commentated on something I hadn't said AGAIN!  You are deceitful antagonist who desperately wants to be right and wants to justify this violence even at the cost of demeaning and denigrating two black people who are speaking common sense, stating facts and asking legitimate questions. Which is far more than you are capable of doing.


- Do you acknowledge that the looters and protesters are separate groups?
I haven't said different have I. It was you who accused me of "lumping groups together". Don't you think that asking me for clarity on this issue in the first place would have been the better thing to do rather that misinterpreting my words and substituting them for your own?  [A] I am not American but I believe it is the 1st amendment that gives people the right to protest.......... P_E_A_C_C_E_F_L_L_Y


- Do you acknowledge that the protesters have very good reasons to protest?
See [A] above.


The purpose of protest is to get the government to do something. Citizens killing other citizens is terrible, but there is no specific government action that people need the government to take.

 Of course there is when it is happening on such a large scale day in day out. What  planet are you from!





america is a place still badly marred by racism.
It is a fact of life. Stop crying.   Murder and violence and vandalism is not the answer.


 ok, so you see that the police are racist and murder people and your response is "stop crying"?

And you are once again manipulating my words. You really are  deceitful aren't you?  Look at YOUR OWN COMMENT that I responded to above . I have highlighted it for you AGAIN, and it is THAT word,  YOUR word that I responded to. Do you see the difference , of course you don't. because you don't want to.  So,  like I have to do with the very youngest of my grandchildren, I will spell out for you,  your blinding deceit.

[A} You say "AMERICA is a place still badly marred by racism" . What you didn't say was [B] ' " the POLICE FORCE is a place still badly marred by racism"

I responded to A and not what you didn't say at B , you deceitful poltroon!


That is horrendous.

No, what you mean is that it would be "horrendous" if I had said that, but I haven't, wouldn't and didn't, say that at all  did I!?   This is simply more of your deceit. AGAIN you are creating and inventing things I haven't said,  AT ALL,  and then you are commenting on something that I haven't said. You just cannot help yourself can you?  

The police are there to protect and serve the public. Not to harass and kill them...
Yes and they are being killed on a pretty regular basis by black people in more cases than by white people while trying to do that.  Did you not to listen to those stats given by the black women in the video ? Here you are>>>11:00 onwards  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jyq_R7HJTQ




But as I keep saying, the looters and protesters are 2 different groups.

Yes you do, don't you.. And I am sick of having to repeat myself to you. I didn't lump them together.  You just want me to have lumped them together. 

here are those stats AGAIN>>11:00 onwards  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jyq_R7HJTQ

If this black woman is wrong then start a thread debunking her instead of trying to demean and denigrate her for pointing out facts and talking commonsense.  

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And I agree fully , doc
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And that is exactly the point being made in the video that you want to purposefully alter to suit your own beliefs and narrative.
You are lumping the 2 groups together and condemning them both. Unless I have misunderstood your intention. 

Wrong.  AGAIN. I am condemning the murder and violence and vandalism, and  you clearly know I am.  show me where it is that  I have "lumped them all together. I have wrote only of the  murder and violence and vandalism by rioters.




I think I do.  So let me take a leaf out of your book; You are saying even when a "brother murders and other brother" it is insignificant and no one can gain from it.  Where as,  when a white man murderers a black brother then there are legitimate excuses and reasons to riot, rob , murder, maim and burn buildings and black, hard - worked for businesses to the ground. 
no. My point is that when one citizen murders another citizen, that is a crime that should be investigated and prosecuted, as our system is designed to do. When the police abuse their power and murder citizens, that is something much more serious that requires protest. 

And that is opinion. And mine is completely opposite to yours. It should be other way around.




"racist" .   A word that has been so used and  abused by black and white that it lost all true sense of meaning and definition,  by  libtards.
Some people do overuse it.


 Yes you  don't you?  But you deceitfully disguised your accusation of me being racist  among other options, either or .  It's an old trick used my all deceitful apologist.


america is a place still badly marred by racism.

It is a fact of life. Stop crying.   Murder and violence and vandalism is not the answer. 


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You are justifying killing someone in cold blood.
How am I?
You are attempting to try to blame the victim of the crime by bringing up their past.

No. I am showing why the OP  may have a real point. I have said I personally agree that he should face the full force of law and justice. It looked like second "degree murder" (known as manslaughter here in the UK) to me. But then I am not American. are you?




 

I have simply stated that the OP " may have a case"  & why. What's your problem?
the info about george's past has absolutely nothing to do with his murder.

And his present. He was caught in the a of committing   another crime wasn't he?    But for some reason you appear to have a mental blockage. Or is there something shiny in your room that is distracting you to what I have actually wrote concerning this very clear murder, >>>>>>>>>  for which the white officer should face justice and  be tried ?

It doesn't matter what he has done in the past. It matter what was done to him now. 

I agree. and you still keep missing this>>>>>>>>>this very clear murder  for which the white officer should face justice and  be tried ?

Do I have to embolden and underline all of my own opinions so that you cannot ever miss them? 




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This is the exact same narrative that rapists use to try to get away with raping women.

You really are a deceitful  individual, aren't you.  Is your whole life based around  defending arguments with blatant lies?

And now you are just plain lying about the woman in the video.  She clearly addressed the "unlawful murder of Floyd". Nowhere does she imply or suggest that "he should get way with anything" she states the opposite.   But she also clearly address's the unjust and unwarranted over reaction to this murder. 

So I will once again ask you to show us all how a single thing in this video implies that this BLACK women is suggesting that she is trying to excuse the actions of the clear and  murderous actions of this white officer and suggests that she made this video to help the white officer "get away with " anything.

 No you can't can you. But it won't stop you excusing the vile murderous actions of those black rioters who filmed a "brother" taking his last gasps on earth. 
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I found those stats interesting, if nothing else. 


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that information will not/can not be used to justify the cops actions, but rather refute any claims that he killed him intentionally or the other conditions needed for 2nd degree, just my 2 cents.

 I agree. But "that information" is in the public domain for all of your countrymen & women to see and read. Do I have to say anymore? This is before they - the jury - hear anything in mitigation from the officers defense. Just my pennies worth.


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@ RationalMadman,


stop typing while you're ahead.

You'er not making sense. And it is extremely rude to respond  comments  that  are not even in response to you but made to someone else when you have me on block. Not to mention how cowardly. Why didn't you answer my questions to YOU on your OWN thread before responding to me on a thread that is not even your own?  >>>>>#38





You are justifying killing someone in cold blood.

How am I?






What you are saying is irrelevant to what happened. 

It is  relevant to the claim above . But you, -  like most things, -  you have missed it.   Here it is again just for you in bold and underlined

 OP states :

Im like 80% sure  Chauvin is going to get off and be found not guilty of the main charge against him for killing Floyd  #1  Imabench Added06.03.20 11:29PM


I have simply stated that the OP " may have a case"  & why. What's your problem?

I personally believe the OP is wrong and that he will be - rightly - found guilty very quickly and serve some serious time. Or do you not agree?


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Im like 80% sure Chauvin is going to get off and be found not guilty of the main charge against him for killing Floyd
You may have a case

1998 theft with a fire arm. 10 months.
2002 cocaine offence. 8 months.
2004 another cocaine offence. 10 months.
2005 another cocaine offence. 10 months.
2007 George  (& co) went up a few gears and gravitated to Floyd and five accomplices crashing into a pregnant woman's home armed with a gun threatening to shoot the unborn baby for which he serves a paltry five years. 


  ` and just when George was getting his life together and had become and exemplary character in the community ` (CNN) , a white police officer murdered George  when  caught attempting to pass a fake bill and while high as albatross.

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The reality is.......

The reality  for many Christians is that they haven't read the scriptures for themselves, Vic. They have had them read to them and in most cases from a very early age. They have been steered only towards what a lovely man Jesus allegedly was  and steered away from the problematic stories and verses that contradict what they have been guided towards to read and what they have been told . It was very rare indeed when I was at school that an RE teacher would  dare venture into the realms of  Old Testament except to tell us how great god was and of Moses 's miracles with the help of god. 


They have not been prepared to really be challenged on these scriptures and that is why they disappear once their excuses and arguments have fallen flat and shown to be baseless, and their god to be a butchering  maniac who would kill at the drop of an hat for the simplest of reasons or no reason at all.

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" We are being sold a lot of lies  that is a detriment to black & white community."

" George Floyd was not a model for black America".

"Police officers have way way more to be fearful of the black community that the other way round"

1998 theft with a fire arm. 10 months.
2002 cocaine offence. 8 months.
2004 another cocaine offence. 10 months.
2005 another cocaine offence. 10 months.
2007 George  (& co) went up a few gears and gravitated to Floyd and five accomplices crashing into a pregnant woman's home armed with a gun threatening to shoot the unborn baby for which he serves a paltry five years. 


  ` and just when George was getting his life together and had become and exemplary character in the community ` (CNN) , a white police officer murdered George  when  caught attempting to pass a fake bill and while high as albatross.



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Then there is  Jesus ordering his followers  :

Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.Matthew 22:36

and the assumption that all non believers are  lawless ;

"Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?" 2 Corinthians 6:14


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Do you talk things through in your head?

I did say above : 
"I think we all hear voices" in our head".  It is usually ones own voice asking, deducting & fathoming.  'What will happen if I say or do this'?  is probably the most common question I hear myself asking myself." #2
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An original thought is a modification of pre-existing data...Stored data and perhaps newly acquired but nonetheless pre-existing data in a new format.


Nice thought that, Vic.
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