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@Dr.Franklin
congrats on 4000 posts
Don't encourage the clown. It is very easy to clock that amount of posts up when your sentences consist of one or two words of absolute bollocks and childish idiocy and you chop one response into 3 or more individual replies as shown above. He believes it make him look ' well intelligent ' , when in truth it simply proves he's a fucking troll out to cause agro and nothing else. He is a vile bully and should never have been allowed back onto the forum after receiving so many fkn bans. Maybe Jesus loves him.
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@disgusted
You see the problem with the blind man is that he is apologist for the ignorant savages who wrote the bible.
I am apologising for nothing sea slug. I am simply discussing what you have wrote. You don't like what I have wrote and I don't fkn care.
ignorant savages who wrote the bible.
And you can support that claim?
and lacks the minimal intelligence needed to recognise that only one possibility exists,
That obviously is not true. I have already gave a reasonable alternative possibility. You just don't like it. And I don't care
either one of the stories is a lie or more likely both are.
Or both are true as I have explained. You just don't like it that I have come up with an alternative possibility, but I don't fkn care. You should try putting a little thought into your own questions that you intend to create a thread of before spouting gobshite.
I'm getting tired of dealing with this thing's gross ignorance.
No one is forcing you to deal with anything. You could always just fk off the forum altogether and leave those who are capable of discussing this little anigma to do so with reasoned thought and discussion. It is obviously a little too deep for you.
I notice that you have avoided challenging the possibility that I proposed. Why is that? Was it far too sharp for you sea sponge?
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@keithprosser
...both accounts could be true. ..alleged suicide...You seem a bit on the fence on this one...I don't want to have to remind you again that is my job.
To you maybe. But it was just a guess put forward as a probable explanation and nothing more, I do say " I am going to have a GUESS!". But that said, I believe it would explain away what the sea sponge sees as another Christian New Testament 'gotcha ' moment. He still may have a case, but I see nothing in the way of reasoning behind his accusation.
You see the problem with the sea sponge is that he totally lacks the ability to think of all the possible answers before pitching his accusations of biblical contradictions ( of which there are many). This is why within just a few posts he runs out of argument and defaults to form with juvenile idiocy.
But it is his thread, and he will no doubt derail it soon enough when he is left with only childish idiocy for replies and responses.
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@Dr.Franklin
Matthew 27:5 Acts 1:18
I am going to have a guess here and suggest that both accounts could be true.
Account one (1) was the hanging, account two (2) was the effects of a body hanging for sometime in the hot middle eastern sun. Imagine all that bacteria in the gut stewing for hours maybe days in that heat.
Also, Judas was a thief, the "wages of iniquity" may not have had anything to do with money he received for the betrayal. His wages of iniquity probably bought him the field well before the betrayal and before the alleged suicide by hanging.
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@disgusted
Post 5
bahahahahahahaha
Post 6
WOW.Rubber room cowboy.
It doesn't take you too long to run out of argument does it. LOL
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@disgusted
You do, that 's why your stamping your feet and frothing at the mouth.
In your dreams, sea sponge. I don't give two fks about you or your opinion or your juvenile idiocy..
I repeat:
Your realistic argument should now lay with the fact that at least one person on this thread agrees with you. It is he with whom you do now have a legitimate argument as he insists the word has to be taken literally. But for some reason, you are avoiding it, which means your just being contrary for the fkn sake of it. Well knock yourself out sea sponge, no one fkn cares, especially me.
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@disgusted
What is your god literally saying in Luke 14:26?
I don’t have a god, stop being silly.And as you can clearly see, that particular verse comes from a very human being known to the world as Luke.
What gives you the right to deny what he is literally saying?
I understand that the ancients didn’t have the Oxford and English dictionary at hand at the time of writing their scriptures. Your brain doesn't seem to be able to cope with the understanding of phraseology vs idiomacy , but no one should be surprised at that, should they.
Your ill conceived belief of having a anti Christian gotcha moment has faded into the mist and your extremely poor attempt at stretching and milking an argument has faded along with it.
Your realistic argument should now lay with the fact that at least one person on this thread agrees with you. It is he with whom you do now have a legitimate argument as he insists the word has to be taken literally. But for some reason, you are avoiding it, which means your just being contrary for the fkn sake of it. Well knock yourself out sea sponge, no one fkn cares, especially me.
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What is your god literally saying in Luke 14:26?
I don’t have a god, stop being silly.And as you can clearly see, that particular verse comes from a very human being known to the world as Luke.
What gives you the right to deny what he is literally saying?
I understand that the ancients didn’t have the Oxford and English dictionary at hand at the time of writing their scriptures. Your brain doesn't seem to be able to cope with the understanding of phraseology vs idiomacy , but no one should be surprised at that, should they.
Your ill conceived belief of having a anti Christian gotcha moment has faded into the mist and your extremely poor attempt at stretching and milking an argument has faded along with it.
Your realistic argument should now lay with the fact that at least one person on this thread agrees with you. It is he with whom you do now have a legitimate argument as he insists the word has to be taken literally. But for some reason, you are avoiding it, which means your just being contrary for the fkn sake of it. Well knock yourself out sea sponge, no one fkn cares, especially me.
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My argument has never even been addressed by either you or anyone else in reply. Keep trying.
I have and so have others. Even prosser, your last buddy on this earth has addressed your _ "argument". he says the same as I have said:
I said post 2
Luke 14;26 Is about putting everyone and everything second to god/ the Christ and not a literal "hate" of anyone as proven by the fact that The Christ tells "honour thy mother and they father" - love thy neighbour" - "suffer the children unto me" etc etc. In other words it is idiomatic.
And your bosom pal prosser at post 40 followed up with:
The word we should be analysing is 'μισεῖ', particularly its idiomatic use in 1st century koine greek.
SO STOP LYING, YOUR ARGUMENT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED IN FULL. You are just not happy with the response; hard fkn luck, there there, never mind, grow FKN up.
The question is what does hate mean? You have failed to even address the question.
And you answered that part of the question yourself. You then threw in a verse from Luke of the New Testament as if you had stumbled on some great Anti Christian 'gotcha' moment. You hadn't and It has all been explained to you why you hadn't. You don't accept the explanation. I don't care, that is your choice. So you keep banging your sponge against the coral, sunshine, it makes no difference to me. I don't fk care and neither does anyone else.
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@disgusted
All answered, find another meaningless meme.
Stop fkn lying. And I just knew you would derail your own thread once you had ran out of argument, which took only a few posts.
You haven't answered these questionsWhat does hate mean to you?What did it mean to you in the 20th century?Why does it mean something different in the 21st century?
So?
I am still waiting for your answers to these little gems of yours
--> @disgusted wrote: How did the alleged hebrews kearn Alpha Centaurian, especially since they believed that stars were just little lights in the dome above their flat earth?
Where is your evidence to support that claim? How do you know that the ancient Hebrews believed that the stars were only "just little lights in the sky" ? And how do you know that the ancient Hebrews were believers in the "flat earth" when the Old Testament indicates otherwise?
Or do we file this under as yet another ridiculous and outrageous unsupported claim of yours along with these below?
@disgusted "we have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet"?
No proof offered by the claimant.
@disgusted "the word god did not exist before the middle ages"
No proof offered by the claimant.
@disgusted "We all exist in the same reality"
No proof offered by the claimant
but unavoidable in the enlightening of man@disgusted Then how did cavemen come up with it?
Do you have evidence for that claim? Did "cavemen " have a religion? Did they worship gods?
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@disgusted
You haven't answered these questionsWhat does hate mean to you?What did it mean to you in the 20th century?Why does it mean something different in the 21st century?
So?
I am still waiting for your answers to these little gems of yours
--> @disgusted wrote: How did the alleged hebrews kearn Alpha Centaurian, especially since they believed that stars were just little lights in the dome above their flat earth?
Where is your evidence to support that claim? How do you know that the ancient Hebrews believed that the stars were only "just little lights in the sky" ? And how do you know that the ancient Hebrews were believers in the "flat earth" when the Old Testament indicates otherwise?
Or do we file this under as yet another ridiculous and outrageous unsupported claim of yours along with these below?
@disgusted "we have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet"?
No proof offered by the claimant.
@disgusted "the word god did not exist before the middle ages"
No proof offered by the claimant.
@disgusted "We all exist in the same reality"
No proof offered by the claimant
but unavoidable in the enlightening of man@disgusted Then how did cavemen come up with it?
Do you have evidence for that claim? Did "cavemen " have a religion? Did they worship gods?
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You haven't answered these questions
So?
I am still waiting for your answers to these little gems of yours
--> @disgusted wrote: How did the alleged hebrews kearn Alpha Centaurian, especially since they believed that stars were just little lights in the dome above their flat earth?
Where is your evidence to support that claim? How do you know that the ancient Hebrews believed that the stars were only "just little lights in the sky" ? And how do you know that the ancient Hebrews were believers in the "flat earth" when the Old Testament indicates otherwise?
Or do we file this under as yet another ridiculous and outrageous unsupported claim of yours along with these below?
@disgusted "we have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet"?
No proof offered by the claimant.
@disgusted "the word god did not exist before the middle ages"
No proof offered by the claimant.
@disgusted "We all exist in the same reality"
No proof offered by the claimant
but unavoidable in the enlightening of man@disgusted Then how did cavemen come up with it?
Do you have evidence for that claim? Did "cavemen " have a religion? Did they worship gods?
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@disgusted
You could take that a step further and ask "Why didn't God just transmit His literal voice directly into the heads of every human?"The obvious answer is that your god is a figment of human imagination and is not capable of such.
Just as I predicted. Back to YOUR same old shite once you run out of clear and legitimate argument.
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@disgusted
It never went over my head.Godists have been lying about that passage since I was a kid.What does hate mean to you?What did it mean to you in the 20th century?Why does it mean something different in the 21st century?Did you see the definition in the OP?
It obviously has gone clean over your head, otherwise you wouldn't have to keep repeating yourself. I have given my opinion on the matter. I don't give two fks what you want to believe or disbelieve.It makes no difference to me. The brother on the other hand has some explaining to do if he insists that we shouldn't even consider the idiomatic use of the word as it appears in Luke. So you can take that up with the Brother who, I am sure will dismiss the stone cold fact that his response has now made all the statements of love and kindness made by Jesus problematic in the extreme. This should breath a bit more life into your now ailing thread.
So you keep milking this thread for what it is worth. It was surprisingly going quite well considering it was a thread authored by you. You did author this thread all on your own didn't you? You didn't cheat by asking others to help you? Anyway, whoever it was I can see you will no doubt drag it down to your customary level of shite. You don't seem to understand that I don't give two fuks what you belive, your argument lies elsewhere.
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@keithprosser
The fence between what and what?
Weather "hate" in the case of Luke's verse actually means hate as we understand it in the modern 21st century sense or that "hate" simply means to - love less - than in the ancient NT sense. This is why I,as you and now others have mentioned the idiomatic sense that I believe it should be understood, but it went clean over the head of the sea sponge as I knew it would and he the Bruva are having none of it, as If I actually fkn care.
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@keithprosser
Jesus tells wrould-be followers to be sure they are prepared to put their faith ahead of the people and things....
In short, to love them less than and not more than. As I have already explained in my 1st or 2nd post. And the link from Snoopy that followed supports what I have explained. But I notice you haven't quite come off the fence on this one.
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@keithprosser
particularly its idiomatic use in 1st century koine greek.
I agree, and already pointed out to the sea sponge and the Bruv. They are having none of it. And the Bruv doesn't even care that the verse of Luke's has now become extremely problematic and throws many of Jesus's own saying right up into the religious atmosphere.
I did begrudgingly congratulate the sea sponge on his effort with this thread. When I said:
--> @Stephen post # 19 This thread, even after its silly introduction may turn out to be your best ever effort yet at attacking what it is that Christians actually have faith in instead of attacking Christians simply for having a belief and a faith. Good boy. This should turn out to be e very interesting thread.
There again it has been said that most things are discovered by accident rather than intention.
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WHAT? You have the audacity to state that the number one biblical lexicon of the JUDEO-Christian bible,
I do indeed. But I see you are now swerving the obvious New Testament contradictions that Luke 14:26 now gives rise too. Would you like to explain them away? Of course you won't because you can't.
Like I have said, I have no horse in this race and I have nothing to defend , or support religiously. So you either accept my opinion or you don't. I am easy either way. But you simply waving away these very obvious and "blatant" contradictions as if they are irrelevant to the matter that Luke 14:26 now highlight will not make them go away . They are there to stay as long as you believe that the word "hate" in the Luke verse actaully means one MUST AND HAS TO "hate " his/her parents, children,brothers , sisters friends and neighbours and any other relation he/she may have.
Do you think that Jesus will smile at my joke?
If he were still around he would say YOU ARE the joke.
I have to go with the link Snoopy posted. It agrees with me and makes more sense.
P.S. I don't believe you have actually understood the content of your own link.
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@disgusted
Your brother hasn't addressed the thread
If you mean brotherD, it seems he is in total agreement with you plankton, but I suppose you didn't realise that did you.
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Why are you running away from your bible ignorance relative to Luke 14:26 that I have shown?
I am not running away . I just don't don't agree with your explanation you clown. I have nothing to defend here. I have no horse in this race, you seem to be forgetting that. I have gave my opinion, you either accept it or you don't, I don't fkn care.
It would be nice of you now though to explain away the glaring contradictions that Lukes 14:26 raises now that you insist that the word "hate"
HAS TO BE taken literally. or are you going to ignore that fact.
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@disgusted
Is your Jesus god really stupid and also doesn't know what words mean?
I don't have a Jesus god, . plankton.
I am sticking to what I have wrote. But it seems, surprisingly, that you have an ally in BrotherDThomas , he agrees with you totally, doesn't he. So now is all he has to do is explain the fkn contradictions that Lukes verse raises if we are to take it literally.
Ok, the floor is yours BrotherD.
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Stephen, maybe you would be more comfortable with your biblical ignorance at a Christian Children's forum instead of DebateArt.
Says the man who doesn't know his Ark from his Arse
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@Stronn
What made the U.S. unique is that it was the first nation founded on the principles of the Enlightenment. The founding fathers explicitly rejected longstanding religious principles such as the divine right of kings and the acquisition of knowledge through revelation instead of reason, and emphasized the natural rights of individuals.
Excellent!
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@disgusted
I can't find where idiomatic relates to a words definition not being the definition of that word.
Hahahahhahah, why doesn't that surprise me. I have even explained it to you. So, you either honestly do not understand, or you are purposefully ignoring the explanation. I believe it to be the former.
I don't care if you don't accept the explanation or that you will not accept any explanation. But that is what the Luke 14:26 "hate" means.
pathetic apologetics,
I am far from an apologist for any religion and my forum record is testament to that fact. You don't accept the explanation, fair enough, I don't care, I am not here to defend fk religion, the bible or christianity. But I do admire tenacity for the right reasons, so do keep trying. This thread, even after its silly introduction may turn out to be your best ever effort yet at attacking what it is that Christians actually have faith in instead of attacking Christians simply for having a belief and a faith. Good boy. This should turn out to be e very interesting thread.
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So your response is that hate doesn't mean hate and you think that's proven by Jesus contradicting himself elsewhere. Yeah that makes apologist sense but no other sense.
You just cannot help being unhinged can you. Look up the word idiomatic, plankton. Then try your level best to add 2+2 , it should all fall into place for you, but I doubt it.
Here is a fk clue that even a plankton should understand.
In Genesis 29:31 it is said that Jacob “hated” his wife Leah, and yet, the context makes it very clear that he merely loved his other wife Rachel
"more than" ( that is to say ) above Leah.
Here endeth the lesson.
What a stupid and retarded way to start a thread: ask an question then answer it. FFS.
If I asked you to define dog, you would more than likely reply ' not a cat ' such is your limited understanding of four-legged mammals or anything else.
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@disgusted
What does hate mean?
Typical .
What's your point? You have asked a question, then provide the definition that answers your own question.
Luke 14:26
Is about putting everyone and everything second to god/ the Christ and not a literal "hate" of anyone as proven by the fact that The Christ tells "honour thy mother and they father" - love thy neighbour" - "suffer the children unto me" etc etc. In other words it is idiomatic.
You really believe that you had stumbled on a 'gotcha' moment didn't you. LOL
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@disgusted
BTW you know a lot less than nothing.
Which is still a thousand times more than you can ever claim to know, plankton
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@keithprosser
Teacher Of Righteousness.
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@disgusted
Poor Stevie wonder is desperate to convince himself that he's smart.
Even if I knew absolutely nothing, it would still be a thousand times more that you will ever know. Even if my intellect left me striving and destitute in the gutter, I would still be looking down on you ,plankton.
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@disgusted
What do the Dead Sea Scrolls say about Jesus? Nothing.
Bull shit! The gnostic gosples were in part the product of those scrolls. You of course won't have any of it and I don't care.
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@disgusted
Wrong.
prove it, or fk off.
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@disgusted
@disgusted Don't look now but the OT is part of the bible and Yahweh is first created in that book. .Show me where it is in the bible that shows or tells of "the creation of Yahweh"? as you say.Read the bible, I'm not here to hold your frightened little hand.
Yet another unsubstantiated claim. You just so fkn hopeless arn't you.
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@disgusted
Don't look now but the OT is part of the bible and Yahweh is first created in that book. .
Show me where it is in the bible that shows or tells of "the creation of Yahweh"? as you say.
You are so quick and insistant to ask others for "evidence" or "citations" but are just incapable of producing any of your own to support your own bullshit.
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@disgusted
Good question, hey?
No. It's not. It's a extremely dumb question.
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@disgusted
Ok, "people" have claimed things for a long time. So what. What's your point?
You haven't made your point.
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@disgusted
Already done there are no ex-biblical mentions of the bible Jesus anywhere.
You are wrong again. You make all these silly unfounded claims without ever reading any sort of "extra biblical accounts".
There are over 50 Gnostic Gospels for instance that mention the biblical Jesus so do the The Dead Sea Scrolls as do the The Nag Hammadi scrolls. And so does historian Josephus.
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@BrotherDThomas
Prove to DebateArt that Moses was a fictional character, okay? If you want others to prove their points, then I am sure you are prepared to prove yours, okay? STANDBY DEBATEART, HISTORY MAY BE MADE WITH DISGUSTED PROVING BEYOND ANY DOUBT THAT MOSES WAS FICTIONAL!!!
Dream on & don't hold your breath . This buffoon never ever backs up his claims while demanding that you back up your claims. Here's just a few examples of his unsubstantiated claims...
--> @disgusted wrote: How did the alleged hebrews kearn Alpha Centaurian, especially since they believed that stars were just little lights in the dome above their flat earth?
Where is your evidence to support that claim? How do you know that the ancient Hebrews believed that the stars were only "just little lights in the sky" ? And how do you know that the ancient Hebrews were believers in the "flat earth" when the Old Testament indicates otherwise?
Or do we file this under as yet another ridiculous and outrageous unsupported claim of yours along with these below?
@disgusted "we have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet"?
No proof offered by the claimant.
@disgusted "the word god did not exist before the middle ages"
No proof offered by the claimant.
@disgusted "We all exist in the same reality"
No proof offered by the claimant
but unavoidable in the enlightening of man@disgusted Then how did cavemen come up with it?
Do you have evidence for that claim? Did "cavemen " have a religion? Did they worship gods?
He simply a vile an agitating bully who should never have been allowed back onto the forum after being banned FOUR TIMES!!!!
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@disgusted
Which ignoran primitive wrote that?
That is like saying sea sponges in the fetus stage could actaully read.
primitive
adjective
UK /ˈprɪm.ɪ.tɪv/ US /ˈprɪm.ə.t̬ɪv/
"WITHOUT MACHINES OR WRITING"
LOL hahahhahahahahhahhahahhahhaha
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Out of Body Experience
Easily confused with sleep paralysis. I have suffered from SP since I was 13 years old. It comes and goes. sometimes it won't happen for 4-5 years and then I will have it every night for a month. It can be extremely frightening when you are young. In later years one learns to relax and let it happen and it is over in seconds.
It entails some of what Randi explained, - seeing yourself leaving the body while your body is stiff with paralysis on the bed. You see yourself move to another room screaming for help but nothing comes out of your mouth. You can see yourself touch a family member out of sheer fear and desperation for help, but the strange thing is that if you can managed to move just your little finger a fraction, the paralysis instantly stops.
Everyone has this paralysis mechanism. It is believed it stops you acting out your dreams. Only that sometimes the paralysis kicks too early and before you are actually fully asleep.
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@disgusted
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There are "people"Author: disgusted, 1 day ago[.......]Added: 07.22.19 07:51PM[.....] Who claim that a fetus has the right to life.Other than the woman carrying that fetus who gives it that right
So you make a claim without context or even pretext. What is your point? What is the point of this thread.
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@disgusted
2nd Creating a condenser out of wood is hilarious.
It wasn't just wood bone head. Have you read it?
11 And thou shalt overlay it with pure gold, within and without shalt thou overlay it, and shalt make upon it a crown of gold round about.
And are you in a better position than the likes of one of the greatests inventors of his time and our time to describe how to make a condenser/capacitor? I wouldn't let you near a three pinned plug
You don't believe it, you have stated so,. I accept that you don't believe it, so now you can fk off, can't you. You are not wanted on this thread anyway. This thread is for grown ups to discuss this staange, mystical and powerful object.
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@keithprosser
So can you show me these verses that include magic?It could stop a river flowing:Josh 3:15So when those who bore the ark had come to the Jordan, and the feet of the priests bearing the ark were dipped in the edge of the water, 16the waters flowing from above stood still, rising up in a single heap far off at Adam, the city that is beside Zarethan, while those flowing toward the sea of the Arabah, the Dead Sea, were wholly cut off.(also 4:10)It was carried around Jericho (accompanied by trumpets) to make the walls of Jericho fall and the Philistines suffered disasters when they captured it:1 Sam 5:6The hand of the Lord was heavy upon the people of Ashdod, and he terrified and struck them with tumors, both in Ashdod and in its territory.Uzzah died because he touched the ark:2 Sam 6Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God and took hold of it, for the oxen shook it. 7The anger of the Lord was kindled against Uzzah; and God struck him there because he reached out his hand to the ark; and he died there beside the ark of God.
The question was for the single celled amoeba. But never mind, you'll do. Yes. I have read those description and stories of the Ark. So this was magic was it. And does the scripture say the Ark performed magic? From what I read it clearly states that the Ark did these things but they mention nothing about magic. The people involved mention nothing of magic either, not a single word in fact. No, they were very adamant and precise when describing how deadly this box was, I have no reason to doubt that what they witnessed was very real and they were frightened of it.. I would agree, they are mystical events, but I doubt this was magic.
Scientist for decades have been suggesting - going by the specs - that what these artificers had built was a portable capacitor which when not handled correctly was a serious piece of dangerous kit. I will go with the likes of Nikola Tesla on this one :
"The Bible describes precisely and minutely arrangements constituting a machine in which electricity was generated by friction of air against silk curtains and stored in a box constructed like a condenser. It is very plausible to assume that the sons of Aaron were killed by a high tension discharge".
For the benefit of the plankton who do not know who the great inventor Nikola Tesla was. Nikola Tesla was a Serbian-American inventor, electrical engineer, mechanical engineer, and futurist who is best known for his contributions to the design of the modern alternating current electricity supply system.
The term condenser is an older word for what we now know as a capacitor, or an electrical machine capable of storing energy. Tesla thought that the Ark generated static electricity by causing air to rub against the silk curtains of the tabernacle.. This created static electricity which was then stored inside the Ark, turning the box into a giant Leyden Jar; a very dangerous piece of kit indeed. Is it any wonder they tell us it had to be carried on wooden poles.
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magically killing people.
How does someone die "magically"?
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@3RU7AL
ONLY A TINY MINORITY OF MUSLIMS ARE DANGEROUS TO THE AVERAGE WESTERN CITIZEN.I will gladly answer your question when you have produced the evidence for your claim above.16% of the population in the Muslim world, according to the PEW data processed by us, continue to openly support Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda, 17% the Taliban, 21% Hezbollah, and 22% Hamas. 27% of Muslims worldwide do not oppose suicide bombing. [LINK]
I notice you left out a relevant part of your link that goes nowhere near in debunking the respected Pew Research findings.
from your link;
>>>>>>Where does all this radicalism come from—including the 8% of Muslims worldwide who now support ISIS?<<<<<<<<<
Not surprisingly the above - from your link - is/was only a summary of a forthcoming analysis. I read all of your link.
SO:
Considering this is 8% of 1.6 Billion muslims "WORLDWIDE" which sound very tiny until it is converted into figures and words, this then amounts to 128000000 or One Hundred & Twenty Eight Million muslims who support Islamic State which is by no means a "tiny minority". And I am sure anyone running for government office wouldn't turn their noses up to this "tiny minority" on election day.
So back you your original statement # 240:
ONLY A TINY MINORITY OF MUSLIMS ARE DANGEROUS TO THE AVERAGE WESTERN CITIZEN.Please either agree or disagree.
I disagree.
Now are you going to be brave enough to start that thread? if not fk off my thread.
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@keithprosser
I hope Stephen won't mind me plugging that BBC radio documentary again - anyone who hasn't listened to it really should do!
Why would I? It supports my opinions and arguments perfectly. So thanks again.
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@disgusted
Severe lack of reading comprehension....
So you claim something, without giving the slightest reason for your claim and expect discussion and debate.
What is to be debated? What is there to discuss? You have made a simple claim. and then nothing. You haven't made a point.
Your attention seeking knows no bounds at all does it? My, my, that little pointless few hours ban must have been driving you up the wall and stark staring crazy: and you have the nerve and barefaced cheek you say "muslims are in desperate and urgent need of psychiatric treatment".
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@3RU7AL
Please explain what you consider a "Muslim extremist" or "radicalized" and why anyone should "be afraid of them".
Already responded. here it is again.
Start a thread and I gladly will give you an explanation. If you don't want to do that, then fk off my thread which is about the myth of " only a tiny minority". Now you either debunk the respected Pew Research point for point or just fk off.
Or get super defensive and try to bully others out of the conversation.
I am not bullying you. You are asking for something that is irrelevant to this thread as far as I am concerned. I have offered to willingly and gladly join you on a thread that you start on the subject. You it seems are reluctant to do so.
Ok, try this one, ONLY A TINY MINORITY OF MUSLIMS ARE DANGEROUS TO THE AVERAGE WESTERN CITIZEN.
Is that a claim?
Please either agree or disagree.
I will gladly answer your question when you have produced the evidence for your claim above.
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@3RU7AL
Please explain what you consider a "Muslim extremist" or "radicalized" and why anyone should "be afraid of them".
Start a thread and I gladly will give you an explanation. If you don't want to do that, then fk off my thread which is about the myth of " only a tiny minority". Now you either debunk the respected Pew Research point for point or just fk off.
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@disgusted
I think the Islams are the least of your worries, look who just moved into number 10.
What are "Islams"?
And we will have to see if or not PM Johnson lives up to the title of clumsy buffoon. I would rather him be a clown and a buffoon than submit to and appease fkn Islam as all those before him have done.
But as much as I hate to admit it, you may have a point.
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