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What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge?Not a single one of the 12 disciples is recorded as standing at the foot of the cross to watch Jesus die.You may want to place Mary Magdelana attending the event, but she is never recorded as being a disciple and, it is said, that she and a few other women stood and to have " watched from afar".It is as you insist, "the bible should be taken literally at all times".You even accept the disciples watch the crucifixion from a distance.
Nope. Learn to read. I clearly wrote:
Not a single one of the 12 disciples is recorded as standing at the foot of the cross to watch Jesus die.#339
The verse you offer simply states "some people" not disciples which indicates simply people on a family day out at the crucifixion. And further John appears contradict both Luke and mark. That is one for you Christians, to get over.
And you have failed to answer this question tree time>> "What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge"?
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Has anyone ever considered the New Testament story of the so called " certain false witnesses"?
After his arrest Jesus , it is written, was
taken first to the home of Annas where he was slapped around and spat
on then turned over to someone in a higher authority, Caiaphas. But
they had a problem. Under Mosaic law and the book of Deuteronomy,
they had to have two witnesses to whatever the crime it was Jesus is
alleged to have committed.
According to Mark;
“the
chief priests and all the council sought for witness against Jesus to
put him to death; and found
none”,
Mark 15:55-56. KJV.
Then immediately, this happens:
Suddenly they find two “false” witnesses, who are willing to
come forward and testify with stories that did tally;
“ And
there arose certain, and bare false witness against him, saying We
heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands,
and within three days I will build another
made without hands”. Mark14:57-58.KJV
Among the many other questions that the story of Jesus' arrest and trial raises, one has to ask, why are these "certain" star witnesses never directly named?
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Again read what is being posted. There were eyewitness accounts testifying to the appearances of the risen Jesus to those who knew himYep. I read that. It states nothing about a single one of them witnessing stinking and rotting a three-day old corpse rising from a cold stone slab.And it is debateable whether Jesus was even dead when they took him down from the cross. He could have been unconscious or in a coma. You need to look at what was given to him while he was hanging there losing his faith in his "father".Jesus did indeed die. Jesus was crucified and the Gospels record his last breath.
Nope there is absolutely no evidence that Jesus died on the cross. He could well have simply fell into unconsciousness after such a brutal beating, then having to walk a third of a mile to the location of the crucifixion and then agony of being nailed to some wood. I am sure I would pass out.
What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge?
Not a single one of the 12 disciples is recorded as standing at the foot of the cross to watch Jesus die.
You may want to place Mary Magdelana attending the event, but she is never recorded as being a disciple and, it is said, that she and a few other women stood and to have " watched from afar".
It is as you insist, "the bible should be taken literally at all times".
There are more atheist members who now believe Jesus existed than we had before Shila built the case for the Historical Jesus.
There have always been atheists that believe as I do in the possibility that a biblical character named Jesus existed and well before you were even born. But I will often admit that I cannot prove it. So, it has nothing to do with you "building a case". So stop getting ahead of yourself because you have proven nothing.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Shila, are you that SCARED in front of the membership to discuss the real Historical Jesus as shown above?
The thing here Brother D. is that Shila is of the impression that because no one on this thread has actually argued against there ever being an historical Jesus, he has jumped to the conclusion that he somehow proven that an historical Jesus actually existed. Which of course he hasn't proven any such thing.
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An empty tomb is only evidence that a tomb was found to be empty. Nothing you have produced proves anything at all.Sorry to burst your bubble but resurrection is nothing more than an initiation ritual into one sect or another.Again read what is being posted. There were eyewitness accounts testifying to the appearances of the risen Jesus to those who knew him.
Yep. I read that. It states nothing about a single one of them witnessing stinking and rotting a three-day old corpse rising from a cold stone slab.
And it is debateable whether Jesus was even dead when they took him down from the cross. He could have been unconscious or in a coma. You need to look at what was given to him while he was hanging there losing his faith in his "father".
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--> @Shila--> @ShilaIn the Christian religion, the Resurrection is Jesus Christ's return to life on the third day after his death,Yes. I am sure all the indoctrinated from birth Christians believe that pathetic drivel. But it nothing more than an initiation ritual.If resurrection was just an initiation ritual, why is it unique to Christianity ?Why do you not research the subject instead of simply regurgitating what you have been brainwashed into regurgitating?Not a single person witnessed a three-day old rotten stinking corpse rise from a stone-cold slab.You should read and think more before posting.
An empty tomb is only evidence that a tomb was found to be empty. Nothing you have produced proves anything at all.
Sorry to burst your bubble but resurrection is nothing more than an initiation ritual into one sect or another.
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@Shila
--> @ShilaIn the Christian religion, the Resurrection is Jesus Christ's return to life on the third day after his death,Yes. I am sure all the indoctrinated from birth Christians believe that pathetic drivel. But it nothing more than an initiation ritual.If resurrection was just an initiation ritual, why is it unique to Christianity ?
Why do you not research the subject instead of simply regurgitating what you have been brainwashed into regurgitating?
Not a single person witnessed a three-day old rotten stinking corpse rise from a stone-cold slab.
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@Shila
In the Christian religion, the Resurrection is Jesus Christ's return to life on the third day after his death,
Yes. I am sure all the indoctrinated from birth Christians believe that pathetic drivel. But it nothing more than an initiation ritual.
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@Shila
“What the Resurrection Is:
It is a ancient ritual ceremony of 'rebirth ' into a following or sect.
Nothing more nothing less.
ritual
/ˈrɪtʃʊəl/
Learn to pronounce
noun
- a religious or solemn ceremony consisting of a series of actions performed according to a prescribed order.
The same ritual was performed on Lazarus. He was said to have "died" - i.e.lost faith in the movement.
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@Shila
Stephen, you and BrotherD. Only want to talk about Tradesecret.
Stop it. You bring up the Reverend every chance you get.
You have perpetuated all conversations about the reverend, on nearly ALL of your threads or threads that you have resurrected, when I have asked you continually to stick with your topic.
Take it or leave it. A pastor and or chaplain are addressed as Reverend.
How to Address a Pastor, Minister, Christian Clergy
Pastor With a Doctorate
—-Envelope or address block on letter or email:
—-—-The Reverend (Full Name)
—-—-(Church)
—-—-(Address) how to address a protestant minister
—-Salutation: how to address a protestant minister
—-—-Dear Dr. (Surname):
Pastor Without a Doctorate
—-Envelope or address block on letter or email:
—-—-The Reverend (Full Name)
—-—-(Church)
Chaplains to the Armed Services
- The Reverend A B Smith RN (or CF or RAF)
- Padre, or Padre Smith
- The Padre, or Padre Smith
I don't care if you or the Reverend cannot accept these facts. But they are facts. If you don't want to be discussing the Reverend, then simply stop forcing the conversation in his direction and bringing him up every other post that you make.
So get your thread back on course, unless all this is about the Reverend helping you distract from Brother D. making you look like a bible ignorant dunce.
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@Shila
Besides the title one has to earn that respect to be called a Reverend.
So you still insist on perpetuating lies on his behalf.
he does not want to be called Reverend and prefers Pastor.
But he is a Reverend. That is his title. He has claimed to be both a Pastor and a Chaplain to the military. Why are you denying facts?
Or he is LYING and you are helping him perpetuate his lies.
How to Address a Pastor, Minister, Christian Clergy
Pastor With a Doctorate
—-Envelope or address block on letter or email:
—-—-The Reverend (Full Name)
—-—-(Church)
—-—-(Address) how to address a protestant minister
—-Salutation: how to address a protestant minister
—-—-Dear Dr. (Surname):
Pastor Without a Doctorate
—-Envelope or address block on letter or email:
—-—-The Reverend (Full Name)
—-—-(Church)
Chaplains to the Armed Services
- The Reverend A B Smith RN (or CF or RAF)
- Padre, or Padre Smith
- The Padre, or Padre Smith
I don't care if yu or the reverend cannot accept these facts. But they are facts.
So get your thread back on course, unless all this is about the Reverend helping you distract from the Brother making you look like a bible ignorant dunce.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Shila weote: "Having established the case for the Historical Jesus. The question on everyone’s mind has to be why and how did the Historical Jesus die?"
Brother D. Wrote:JESUS DIDN'T DIE BIBLE FOOL SHILA!DIE: to cease to live; undergo the complete and permanent cessation of all vital functions; become dead.Listen up Bible fool Shila, Jesus DID NOT remain dead, because He came back after a 3 day tomb nap and walked out as being flesh and blood, understood Bible fool, huh? In the real primitive bible sacrifices the individual or animal remained DEAD, which is a true meaningful sacrifice! Deduced, since our Jesus did not remain dead, he therefore did not die by remaining dead as the definition in how one dies shown above!
Interesting that the Christians close their eyes and stick their fingers in their ears when the obvious is pointed out to them, isn't it Brother D. ?
There is also a very good case to be made that Jesus survived the cross and didn't die in any sense of the word.
Brother D. Wrote:A factual and real sacrifice is that you remain DEAD, period, where one does NOT come back to life three days later! HELLO?! As an example, a true sacrifice is when USA soldiers remained dead after they gave their lives to protect the United States of America in WW2!
In a nut-shell, Btother D. 👍
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@Shila
Stephen, You two have known each other for over 4 years.
I don't know him at all. I only know what he has volunteered about himself to this forum on the WWW
You two are lying. So which is it?
You must have missed this what I already posted at #290 above and have repeated for you below. Try reading it, taking your time.
Tradesecret wrote: Perhaps it might be worthwhile knowing that I have never said I was a reverend or asked to be called one. Infact Stephen lied about this as well - and when challenged, came up with nary a response.
I have said it many times to you before REVEREND, you dulcet dunce. You must be the only Chaplain & Pastor in the whole world that doesn't know he's to be addressed as Reverend.
Chaplains to the Armed Services
- The Reverend A B Smith RN (or CF or RAF). https://www.crockford.org.uk/faq/how-to-address-the-clergy
TRADESECRET WROTE:I am also a chaplain to our Countries Defence forces, a position I could not have without proper qualifications. #20
The title Reverend applies to Pastors too.
TRADESECRET WROTE:But in my role as a pastor - which I also do, I counsel in pastoral care.#20
And is all you have ever done is deny that you are a Reverend.
I keep telling you, you are very ill, Reverend.
Shila wrote: drop the name Reverend out of respect for the Christian institution you belong to.
Shila, He has no respect for anyone. He's a lying narcissist that I believe suffers from severe Munchausen's. The believability of lie and the fantasy are of no consequence to someone in his condition. SEE HERE>>#207
He may not want to be called Reverend, but he is stuck with that title until he simply admits he is a compulsive pathological liar.
You have been suckered into supporting these lying clowns lies and should know better. It makes you a worse liar then he is. You are more a disgrace than he ever will be..
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@BrotherD.Thomas
All you are doing [shila], like Miss Tradesecret, is to propose a diversion tactic to take the lime-light off you you making a complete fool of yourself relating to the Bible!
Indeed Brother D. This is all they have left once the mask slips. 👍
Neither want to seriously discuss scripture once they have been shown to be so bible ignorant.
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@Shila
To the average person a Pastor and Reverend are both members of the clergy.
Remember you are dealing with a compulsive liar one that will only lie further in an attempt to cover previous lies.
The title Reverend applies to both a pastor and a chaplain. <<<This is a fact. Simply check it for yourself and stop bothering me. You are no better than him, if fact, you are worse.
Please sort this out with him so we don’t give him more credit than he deserves.
YOU are the one that keeps heaping credit on him. I have proven him to be a liar and you simply encouraged and perpetuated his lies by agreeing with his lies.
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@TWS1405
This isn’t the lengthy documentary. It’s a 55 min breakdown by a black pastor giving an unbiased perspective on the case.
From a comment below your link:
"Also in the film the room mates said they never heard from Floyd's family and nobody ever came by to pick up some of his belongings. Think about that for a second".
Seems ole' Georges' life mattered to everyone but those directly connected to him.
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@Best.Korea
I am right. Trade is not Jacob nor an iron chariot......
Yes, I can agree on that score. Maybe you are a man of wisdom after all.
.....He thinks he is, but he isnt.
He thinks he's a lot of things, but intelligent he is not.
He cant possibly compare himself to Jacob.
He could be compared to Michael Jackson in the Hall of Mirrors, don't you agree?
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@Best.Korea
You want to fight a God. You better know your strength.
Jacob fought god and won. Jocob couldn't have known his own strength.
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@Tradesecret
@Shila
Perhaps it might be worthwhile knowing that I have never said I was a reverend or asked to be called one. Infact Stephen lied about this as well - and when challenged, came up with nary a response.
I have said it many times to you before REVEREND, you dulcet dunce. You must be the only Chaplain & Pastor in the whole world that doesn't know he's to be addressed as Reverend.
Chaplains to the Armed Services
- The Reverend A B Smith RN (or CF or RAF). https://www.crockford.org.uk/faq/how-to-address-the-clergy
TRADESECRET WROTE:I am also a chaplain to our Countries Defence forces, a position I could not have without proper qualifications. #20
The title Reverend applies to Pastors too.
TRADESECRET WROTE:But in my role as a pastor - which I also do, I counsel in pastoral care.#20
And is all you have ever done is deny that you are a Reverend.
I keep telling you, you are very ill, Reverend.
Shila wrote: drop the name Reverend out of respect for the Christian institution you belong to.
Shila, He has no respect for anyone. He's a lying narcissist that I believe suffers from severe Munchausen's. The believability of lie and the fantasy are of no consequence, to someone in his condition. SEE HERE>>#207
He may not want to be called Reverend, but he is stuck with that title until he simply admits he is a compulsive pathological liar.
You have been suckered into supporting this lying clowns lies and should know better. It makes you a worse liar then he is. You are more a disgrace than he ever will be..
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@Tradesecret
I said our English PM
I know what you have written as does everyone else reading here. You are not English. A British MP is not YOUR MP or even Australia's MP. It is debateable if you are even Australian, Or even a New Zealander as you also claim to be.. You are very ill Reverend "tradey".
Tradesecret wrote: and ended up like our recently deposed English PM - a short lived poor career. #100
But what I have found most disgraceful about this bare faced lie of yours is that Shila is willing to support your lies and make excuses for the lies you continue to spew, which makes him a more disgraceful and devious person than you could ever be. You are ill, you have an excuse, Shila is not sick and is a lot more intelligent than you, so he has no excuse for what he is intentionally perpetuating.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Yeah, right, but this link shows you to be a woman: https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEB0WX8 Then you comically and embarrassingly changed your female gender to "other" in your current biography link: https://www.debateart.com/profiles/Tradesecret Sorry dear, the term "other" doesn't count for obvious reasons, duh, whereas you being a woman in the first link will LOGICALLY prevail at your continued expense within this forum. In you denying your woman status as explicitly shown, is like you denying your admittance of being a SEXUAL DEVIANT with your family members as shown in this unchristian like link: https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEFT0NW
Good informative post. and well worth the thumbs up.
Interesting is it not that in one of those links that the Reverend "chosen by god himself " informs us that he is from New Zealand and his native language is Greek. He just cannot help himself can he, Brother D. Yet the likes of bone head Shila hangs on his/her every word and even supports his lies.
Have a look and follow this latest clanger from the Reverend , Brother D. #100
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Reverend is from Australia.
Yes, he is he. He makes this claim often doesn't he? He even tells us - brags - that he is a Chaplain to the Australian Defence Forces.
So how the fk can he even say OUR English PM.
Tradesecret wrote: and ended up like our recently deposed English PM - a short lived poor career. #100
He is a compulsive liar. He has absolutely no grounds for such a claim, and you are encouraging him in the bare faced lie.
The Reverend would know better how the Commonwealth works than some American.
That maybe true. But I am English you fkn clown. I live in Droitwich Worcestershire England.
The only PM in the commonwealth is Australian.
Nope. The Commonwealth is made up of many countries and each with their own Prime Ministers. GOOGLE IT YOU fkn idiot!
Stop lying for the twat. You are only encouraging the idiot. He fkd up big time and he knows it.
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@Shila
- and ended up like our recently deposed English PM - a short lived poor career.So your Australian PM is English, is he? 🤣No, our PM is very Australian.Yet Australia is part of the Commonwealth so I am quite entitled to view every PM in the commonwealth as ours..Stop talking bollocks. You have your own Pm and we in England have our own.Just admit it, you got caught cold LYING AGAIN!🤣Stephen England doesn’t have a prime minister. British PM Liz Truss resigned, remember?So the Reverent might be right. The only PM in the commonwealth is Australian.
Do you post simply for the sake om posting?
ffs! stop it. He got caught cold lying again.
The only PM in the commonwealth is Australian.
Then I finally have to agree with the Brother. You are as thick as the Reverend tradsecret.
There are many commonwealths PM's you absolute bone head.
Don't bother responding to me if you are going to defend this lying fkr just to stir the shite.
He's a liar that has, like all liars eventually are, been caught cold AGAIN and you are attempting to justify his lies with more lies.
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- and ended up like our recently deposed English PM - a short lived poor career.So your Australian PM is English, is he? 🤣No, our PM is very Australian.Yet Australia is part of the Commonwealth so I am quite entitled to view every PM in the commonwealth as ours..Stop talking bollocks. You have your own Pm and we in England have our own.
Just admit it, you got caught cold LYING AGAIN!🤣
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@Tradesecret
I notice he's contributed very little to his own thread. This will be another topic he will want to disappear and wish he hadn't started.Unlike you - some of us actually have real reasons for starting threads and unlike you some of us know when the reason has sufficiently been addressed.Ok and what are your own conclusions after the asking and then answering your own premise?Here the purpose was not ton demonstrate that Josephus was not a real person but to demonstrate that the lack of original data does not prove the person existed or not.But haven't you concluded that the "data" is lacking : Do you not state in your own Op that:Tradsecret wrote:Given that the oldest record of any alleged work of Josephus is not found until the 4th century and then only in portion - we obviously have no eyewitness accounts that he is a real historical figure. He's probably a legend someone dreamed up. #1And don't you press home you conclusion in the same op by saying that:we can probably dismiss most of his work as made up. #1And then ask:What do you reckon and what evidence would you give to refute the fact that he is just a myth? #1But you had already dismissed the "evidence" hadn't you? Here>>Since he apparently is the main source for many ancient legends we can probably dismiss most of his work as made up. #1This was covered very early.Then you haven't been keeping up with your own thread, have you?No one but yourself has dismissed the Josephus as being an historical figure.The underlying purpose was for then to see whether people on this site were able to make the logical step from the lack of source documents for Josephus to Jesus. Some did and some didn't.And now you are attempting to move the goal posts. You keep forgetting the fact that if, as YOU have done, dismissed Josephus as ever existing going by what you call a " only a portion" of evidence available then it would follow that there is no link to the existence of Jesus. In other words, when you dismissed Josephus and his entire works as existing you also dismissed the existence of Jesus too.When you reduced Josephus as "myth and legend" you reduced Jesus to "myth and legend" too. When you dismissed ancient works, you dismissed all ancient works.As I first pointed out HERE>>#8 when I wrote:Stephe wrote: But if we are talking about discarding and dismissing the works of Josephus in its entirety then the same can be said for all ancient works including the bible.#8You are just far too thick to realise your great giant balls up.The underlying purpose was for then to see whether people on this site were able to make the logical step from the lack of source documents for Josephus to Jesus.Some did and some didn't.Nope. No one here as done that.Maybe you can start a new thread showing us any logical steps that you have taken to show that there may be a link from Josephus the myth and legend to Jesus the myth and legend.😊You shot yourself in the foot with this thread Reverend.is that really the best you can do?
That is all I needed to do.
Off you go now, thicky.
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@Tradesecret
Perhaps your name is not best.korea but rather best career. And it seems that you actually have made a poor choice
Pot kettle.
- and ended up like our recently deposed English PM - a short lived poor career.
So your Australian PM is English, is he? 🤣
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@Tradesecret
I notice he's contributed very little to his own thread. This will be another topic he will want to disappear and wish he hadn't started.Unlike you - some of us actually have real reasons for starting threads and unlike you some of us know when the reason has sufficiently been addressed.
Ok and what are your own conclusions after the asking and then answering your own premise?
Here the purpose was not ton demonstrate that Josephus was not a real person but to demonstrate that the lack of original data does not prove the person existed or not.
But haven't you concluded that the "data" is lacking : Do you not state in your own Op that:
Tradsecret wrote:Given that the oldest record of any alleged work of Josephus is not found until the 4th century and then only in portion - we obviously have no eyewitness accounts that he is a real historical figure. He's probably a legend someone dreamed up. #1
And don't you press home you conclusion in the same op by saying that:
we can probably dismiss most of his work as made up. #1
And then ask:
What do you reckon and what evidence would you give to refute the fact that he is just a myth? #1
But you had already dismissed the "evidence" hadn't you? Here>>
Since he apparently is the main source for many ancient legends we can probably dismiss most of his work as made up. #1
This was covered very early.
Then you haven't been keeping up with your own thread, have you?
No one but yourself has dismissed the Josephus as being an historical figure.
The underlying purpose was for then to see whether people on this site were able to make the logical step from the lack of source documents for Josephus to Jesus. Some did and some didn't.
And now you are attempting to move the goal posts. You keep forgetting the fact that if, as YOU have done, dismissed Josephus as ever existing going by what you call a " only a portion" of evidence available then it would follow that there is no link to the existence of Jesus. In other words, when you dismissed Josephus and his entire works as existing you also dismissed the existence of Jesus too.
When you reduced Josephus as "myth and legend" you reduced Jesus to "myth and legend" too. When you dismissed ancient works, you dismissed all ancient works.
As I first pointed out HERE>>#8 when I wrote:
Stephe wrote: But if we are talking about discarding and dismissing the works of Josephus in its entirety then the same can be said for all ancient works including the bible.#8
You are just far too thick to realise your great giant balls up.
The underlying purpose was for then to see whether people on this site were able to make the logical step from the lack of source documents for Josephus to Jesus.Some did and some didn't.
Nope. No one here as done that.
Maybe you can start a new thread showing us any logical steps that you have taken to show that there may be a link from Josephus the myth and legend to Jesus the myth and legend.😊
You shot yourself in the foot with this thread Reverend.
Off you go now, thicky.
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@Shila
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--> @Shilamisogynist he [Brother D.] is.Well arn't you the one that says the bible should be taken literally?But at the least one should know who said it.
One does know who said it. It was you.
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@Shila
--> @ShilaHow do you explain it was God that moved the Reverend to become a believer?It not for me to explain, is it? That is another one for the Reverend to lie about, He simply tells, us "god chose" him.. God is a bad judge of character if you ask me.What valued did God see in the Reverend now that we have the Reverend’s confession.The Reverend has made many of these "confessions". I have no idea why he bothered unless it was to garner sympathy whenever he felt "attacked " and "bullied"."value"? Pathetic really. Still, that is his own business. It doesn't interest me; I am not so easily impressed.Can you imagine what the Reverend was before God moved him?
I think you mean before he says "god moved him".
I don't have to imagine anything at all. He has spilled his life story all over the WWW. From childhood to whatever he claims to be now.
I notice he's contributed very little to his own thread. This will be another topic he will want to disappear and wish he hadn't stated.
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@Shila
misogynist he [Brother D.] is.
Well arn't you the one that says the bible should be taken literally?
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@BrotherD.Thomas
they are stupid children; they have no understanding.
I think that covers it , Brother D.
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@Shila
How do you explain it was God that moved the Reverend to become a believer?
It not for me to explain, is it? That is another one for the Reverend to lie about, He simply tells, us "god chose" him.. God is a bad judge of character if you ask me.
What valued did God see in the Reverend now that we have the Reverend’s confession.
The Reverend has made many of these "confessions". I have no idea why he bothered unless it was to garner sympathy whenever he felt "attacked " and "bullied".
"value"? Pathetic really. Still, that is his own business. It doesn't interest me; I am not so easily impressed.
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@Shila
--> @Deb-8-a-bullIm just going to hold back on that post from yesterday.After watching a little more interactions, my moral glands went down.Well Deb, your moral glands couldn't have sunk down anywhere near as low than these patronising unnecessary and uncalled for slights directed towards you from non-other than a man of god too."Cute and backward"Sounds like a public confession from the Reverend.
Yep, another one. He can't help himself. But then cries about " bullying " when his own backstory is brought to the fore.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Im just going to hold back on that post from yesterday.After watching a little more interactions, my moral glands went down.
Well Deb, your moral glands couldn't have sunk down anywhere near as low that these patronising unnecessary and uncalled for slights directed towards you from non-other than a man of god too.
"Cute and backward"
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@Best.Korea
I have decided not to answer your questions, since you are obviously a low spawn of satan....Back away, satan.
Tell me god,
Why did Jesus need to be tested by Satan?
Why was Cain spared death?
Why did you have to harden Pharaoh's heart?
Where are Moses, Abraham, Hezekiah and Mary now?
Where is the Ark of the Covenant?
Are the gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John all true and correct to your word?
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@Tradesecret
Stephen acting now as your knight in shining armour.
As usual you have the wrong end of the stick, Reverend "Tradey".
It is Deb that is your "knight in shining armour". He is saying the forum should defend you. Here> https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8091-the-case-for-the-historical-jesus?page=5&post_number=122
That was until I reminded him what a patronising, intolerant toe rag you had been to him in the past. Here>> "cute and backward"
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8091-the-case-for-the-historical-jesus?page=6&post_number=126
You really are a thicko..... all of the time.
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@Tradesecret
you were beginning to bore me.
And I keep telling you Reverend, that you can always ignore me.
It will be interesting watching yourself and Best.Korea both of you bible dunces vie for the position of bible dunce of the century..😁
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@Tradesecret
@Best.Korea So tell me why you think you are god? #78
I see you found a bed fellow, Reverend "tradey".
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@Deb-8-a-bull
I DONT THINK I AM VERY GOOD AT TRANSLATING SCRIPTURES.
Which still leaves you high above all theist here, Deb and even higher than the highly educated Reverend Tradesecret.. Take a bow. "good game , good game".
See if you can translate these snide slights against you, Deb.
I'll leave you to read for yourself his patronising tones towards you. HERE>> "cute and backward"
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Tell me god,
Why was Cain spared death?
Why did you have to harden Pharaoh's heart?
Where are Moses, Abraham, Hezekiah and Mary now?
Where is the Ark of the Covenant?
Are the gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John all true and correct to your word?
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@Best.Korea
Tell me god,
Why did you have to harden Pharaoh's heart?
Where are Moses, Abraham, Hezekiah and Mary now?
Where is the Ark of the Covenant?
Are the gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John all true and correct to your word?
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@Best.Korea
Tell me god, where are Moses, Abraham, Hezekiah and Mary now?
Where is the Ark of the Covenant?
Are the gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John all true and correct to your word?
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@Best.Korea
I have decided not to answer your questions, since you are obviously a low spawn of satan.
Nope. It is because you are just any another bible dunce that cannot make up your mind on what day your son Jesus was born nor the day, they nailed him up after begging you to release him of his burden.
Lets think of better questions that deluded atheists cant answer.
Most atheist ask questions because they want answers to questions, they cannot answer themselves.
Tell me god, where are Moses, Abraham, Hezekiah and Mary now?
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@Tradesecret
He has repeatedly attacked Reverend Tradesecret.If you are going to keep alleging this let's have some evidence of these "attacks".Shila, Stephen lives in a delusional la la land where everyone else is delusional.
Nope. Just you.
I have said it before Reverend tadesecret. Your self centred personality is only overshadowed by your self-delusion which borders on the pathological. When faced with facts that don't suit you, you will ignore them and make up alternative ones. Of course, the sycophantic fawning you used to receive from some here did go a long way to feed your over inflated ego. That of course has subsided immensely since I exposed you for what you are.
Individuals such as you with narcissistic personality problems don't respond well to criticism. This comes about simply because you believed your own BS.
Having seen and read much haughty self-aggrandizing but ineffectual praises of yourself written by yourself your jumbled up mind can’t decide fantasy from reality.
Individuals like you with narcissistic personality disorders do not respond well when their illusions of personal superiority are challenged and will adopt the role of victim having had their over inflated sense of personal worth and power challenged and then shattered.
The believability of the fantasy seems to be of no consequence. All that seems to count is whether the tall tale helps him rebuild the facade of his perceived greatness while just struggling to be relevant.
Individuals such as you "tradey" with narcissistic personality disorders (NPD) often do not care who they manipulate and lie to or how much harm it may cause by lying.
Of prime importance to NPD suffers is their self-aggrandizement and the propping up of their fragile egos, not the wellbeing of their fellow men and women. .
Off you go now. There's a good lad.
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@Best.Korea
I already made it clear in the Bible that I punish anyone who disagrees with me.
Indeed, you have. Nasty fkr aren't you.
I say that you are going to hell. You are going to stay there for a very long time. Then you will have time to think about my question.
Ok me lawwd
Where is the Ark of the Covenant?
Are the gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John all true and correct to your word?
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@Best.Korea
"So where do ideas come from"I already answered this. They dont come from anywhere. They are self created.So how do ideas create themselves?I have asked you a question. You havent answered my question honestly. God knows when you lie.
More lies.
You asked me;: "Why do you think ideas are involuntary?"#62
But I haven't said I think that. I asked you only " are ideas involuntary?". #61 Stop lying GOD!
As usual, I am always right. I decide what is right. I decided it is right that you probably wont see heaven for a long time.
And you have also lied about me. I suppose that is right by you too. Seems to me "GOD" that you are just as much of a clown than that bible dunce of a representative you chose that calls himself a pastor and a chaplain; the Reverend Tradesecret. Just like you he can't stop fkn lying either. I think you should have a word with one another to see if you can cook up better excuses for your bible bullshite instead of having to accuse others of lying.
Where is the Ark of the Covenant?
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@Best.Korea
People should obey everything I say.Then why don't they?They think they will benefit from homosexuality and other crimesThat wasn't my question.Why don't people obey everything you say?Because they think disobedience will benefit them.What gave them that idea?They create their own ideas. Nobody "gives" ideas to them. The ideas are self created.How are these ideas created?Ideas create themselves. There is no "how". "How" requires a process of creationIdeas dont require such process.So they are involuntary then?I dont see why you would think they are involuntary.It was a question, not a statement. Are you going to answer it?You didnt answer my question, but you expect me to answer yours?
Up until this point you haven't asked me a question at all you lying naughty god.
Why do you think ideas are involuntary?
Who said I think that. I asked you a question. You are pretending that I haven't.
And my answer to your question:Ideas are not involuntary.
So where do ideas come from?
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@Best.Korea
People should obey everything I say.Then why don't they?They think they will benefit from homosexuality and other crimesThat wasn't my question.Why don't people obey everything you say?Because they think disobedience will benefit them.What gave them that idea?They create their own ideas. Nobody "gives" ideas to them. The ideas are self created.How are these ideas created?Ideas create themselves. There is no "how". "How" requires a process of creationIdeas dont require such process.So they are involuntary then?I dont see why you would think they are involuntary.
It was a question, not a statement. Are you going to answer it?
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Seriously, Public-Choice acts in the same manner as the equally Bible fool Ethang5! Do you think that Ethang5 has gotten under the radar here at DEBATEART Religion Forum since he was banned for good?
Who knows, Brother D. Is it a coincidence that they all joined the forum in the same time frame? I don't really care. They all have the same default at the end of the day.
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@Best.Korea
People should obey everything I say.Then why don't they?They think they will benefit from homosexuality and other crimesThat wasn't my question.Why don't people obey everything you say?Because they think disobedience will benefit them.What gave them that idea?They create their own ideas. Nobody "gives" ideas to them. The ideas are self created.How are these ideas created?Ideas create themselves. There is no "how". "How" requires a process of creationIdeas dont require such process.
So they are involuntary then?
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