Stephen

I personally don't believe they contradict each other. 

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@ zedvictor4' You don't even realize how much your answer reveals your ignorance of Christianity, do you? 

Christians are not seeking God.   Christians don't ask people to seek God.  We say very clearly, you can't find God. 

Reverend "Tradey" Tradsecret wrote;  Christians don't ask people to seek God.  We say very clearly, you can't find God.

This was an anti-white leftist terrorist attack.

Or that I don't have sufficient proof to prove God. 

Why would God want someone like them to represent Him? Shouldn't He have given them strokes or heart attacks instead of a lot of money?

Uzzah steadied the ark with his hand, in direct violation of the divine law, and he was immediately killed by the Lord for his error.

 You obviously have something you want to tell. 

So go ahead Stephen, why don't you tell us your hidden and secret wisdom.

GOLD is and always has been valuable.

Culture of that day often made peace offerings in the shape of the disease or curse that happened to them.

It is hardly novel.

Yes Stephen, 

The question is what were the purpose of sending then to their enemies - the enemies whose God was beating them to a pulp?

Now you may be right that it was to send another insult - and I suppose that is possible - but highly unlikely. 

Or it may be that it was - as cultures did in that day - want to make sure that the offending deity knew exactly what you were you saying sorry for. 

Golden Hemorrhoids - were valuable.

So hardly an insult. 

And subsequently abolish the second amendment and confiscate  all firearms. Have no delusions about it. 

And I have to say that overwhelming experience has shown me that their belief in God is not a pretense.

You can also expect less of your posts to get flagged for the next while, 

when reason failed on someone massively over reporting

So you do actually know then who it is that flagged a post? 

We usually don't keep records unless something really stood out, but until they are marked as reports handled we can see who in all filed any reports.

You are the blowhard of the forum "Reverend "Tradey" Tradsecret.  I am not the one that came here "swaggering" #204 and vaunting imagined theological "qualifications and accreditations"  and titles to the www in a vain effort of impressing fellow members here in the misguided belief that  this  somehow gives you a higher - holier than thou - authority over all other members.  I think its time for you to take the forest from your own eye, Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecret.

Well I don't need to do any blowing.  

You have repeated over and over again what you think my credentials are to the forum.

I actually take a low view of myself.  

nor do I recall the last time he reported any posts.

Thanks for being so awesome. ........Now go and pat yourself on the back.  

Well it seems harassment it's okay as long as you don't do it with the Ku Klux Klan picture.

Stephen knows what the limits are.

You - just keep on mocking.

The name calling is just troll methodology. I have acknowledged my part in that,[..........................] Perhaps - for you - the log is too big in your eye to be able to see properly.  

Why are you so upset by Stephen affectionately calling you "Tradey?"  What gives?  If anything, Stephen should be more upset with YOU instead when you called him "Stevie Blunder," remember? 

Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity with children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old. He was convicted of two amended counts as part of a plea deal.

#48

It's a pretty common word used by pagans and polytheists. It's pretty much what the word means. You do work in relation to a god or goddess. Work would involve ritual, offerings and actual physical labor or work. It could be doing something like conservation work for Artemis. Military work for Odin or Freya. Picking up litter for Gaia. These really aren't hard concepts to grasp.

I realize it's hard for you because the ancient aliens are gone now and you really can't do anything with them.

But even Christians are sometimes called to do work for Christ.

This could be in working in a soup kitchen or volunteer at a hospital. I realized that atheist and people who aren't atheist but aren't religious whatever you are, think this or nothing but shallow pools of stupidity

but we actually do do things that benefit other humans and sometimes those things are done in the name of a god or goddess.

Thanks for such a genuine and concerned question, really appreciate it.

. I've never told my child the story of Santa or the story of Jesus or the story of any of the gods that I work with. 

You admit to harassment. 

I said that we do not have original manuscript one of any of the books of the Bible. As revealed to prophets, and as revealed by Christ during his earthly ministry......

the originals have been manipulated, mistranslated, lost, and otherwise0 made flawed by men. Fallible men. #56

I accept your apology for the liar that you are. 

Well that is a copout response. 

FLRW wrote: I think Zed is saying that people who believe in deities are using the same logic they used when they believed in Santa Claus.

" Tradey " wrote: If that is true, why is it that most people teach their kids about santa claus and get upset when someone tells their children, Santa is not true.

You still don't get it. do you?

" contains a plethora of errors and contradictions". #37

"May not have understood the multiple ancient cultures [culture drives language] to translate correctly".#37

" Depended on manuscripts of which none were likely original", #37

You want it on a solver platter, you stuck-up narcissist ?

Here it is: read James 1: --- the whole bloody chapter. Do what he says, explicitly and sincerely, and do not doubt.

1. God did not write it; men did. Men are imperfect, and it shows.#37

I know you won't because you're already proud enough to know already.

Too proud to admit you don't know how to find out?

I said that we do not have original manuscript one of any of the books of the Bible. As revealed to prophets, and as revealed by Christ during his earthly ministry......

the originals have been manipulated, mistranslated, lost, and otherwise0 made flawed by men. Fallible men. #56

then you are a liar and a fraud. You are the one who has continually put on the e 

 Never have I said the scriptures are unreliable

Why say more of the same?

let's be clear about one thing. The Holy Bible is not categorically the infallible word of God. It contains a plethora of errors and contradictions, but there two glaring reasons for this fact:

1. God did not write it; men did. Men are imperfect, and it shows.

2. Any book, let alone 66 of them as generally acknowledged as canon for Christians and some Jews, subjected to the treatment of it by men over roughly three centuries in the Common Era who:

a. May not have had its best interest at heart, and, may have purposefully engaged in deceptive "translation."

b. May not have understood the multiple ancient cultures [culture drives language] to translate correctly.

c. Did not consider that translation as typically practiced is little more than dictionary-to-dictionary comparison, which expects syntax to be exact across the subject languages. It is not.

3. Depended on manuscripts of which none were likely original, compounding the above concerns.

In the end, even thought not 100% accurate and infallible, the Holy Bible can be understood properly by the same means it was inspired: personal revelation from God if sought properly and sincerely.

[1] I am tradesecret.  #18

  Not tradey.#18

Tradesecret wrote: Yes you would love that - so you and the brother can say - Tradey is running away again.  #59

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6316-the-meaning-of-death?page=3&post_number=59

not tradesecret.#18

not reverend.#18

Just Tradesecret. #18

  I am tradesecret.  Not tradey. not tradesecrete. not reverend. Just Tradesecret.  #18

GUY FAWKES was NO HERO, GUY FAWKES was NO VICTIM

And who is talking about voices in the head? Where in the world has this nonsense come from? I would never listen to a voice in my head - unless it was my own voice.  I don't believe God talks to us that way anyway. 

That is  interesting Reverend "Tradey" Tradsecrete.  Tell me; how does god speak to you personally?

there is no real need to attempt an answer because either you won't read it properly,

Well I knew you wouldn't offer any type of answer Reverend "Tradey" Tradescrete.  Not without contradicting past statements that you have made concerning "speaking " with god yet claim that the priesthood is a "calling". 

It is amazing how a little bit of curtesy might assist you IF you really are genuine in wanting answers. 

Would you like reminding of your own "courtesy" shown towards me when I had only been here a matter of weeks?  And you are a  Reverend  when you claim to be a Pastor AND a Chaplain, and it was you that first referred to yourself as "Tradey" , why you do you think I always put it in quotes?

I have told you before, you need to keep up with what your other personas say and claim on your behalf..... "Tradey"

So you believe that two wrongs make a right, do you?

I will take your response - as "I don't do curtesy". 

I'm not ONLY relying on testimonials - but the evidence of many independent reporters from many parts of history.  

Relying on?  What evidence? From who ? And why?

You may ask - but I don't see any particular reason to tell.  

And who is talking about voices in the head? Where in the world has this nonsense come from? I would never listen to a voice in my head - unless it was my own voice.  I don't believe God talks to us that way anyway. 

That is  interesting Reverend "Tradey" Tradsecrete.  Tell me; how does god speak to you personally?

there is no real need to attempt an answer because either you won't read it properly,

It is amazing how a little bit of curtesy might assist you IF you really are genuine in wanting answers. 

And who is talking about voices in the head? Where in the world has this nonsense come from? I would never listen to a voice in my head - unless it was my own voice.  I don't believe God talks to us that way anyway.