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@secularmerlin
Why do you “need” to go against the dictionary?
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@secularmerlin
Why can’t “your meaning” conform to the dictionary’s?
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@secularmerlin
Well maybe if you used the correct terms you would save yourself the time of always having to explain what you mean.
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@secularmerlin
Then how could you expect to be understood if your just gonna go against the grain?
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@secularmerlin
That doesn’t answer my question, I asked you what is the final arbiter of meaning not what is a dictionary.
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@secularmerlin
The dictionary is not the final arbiter of meaning
Then what is?
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@secularmerlin
Well if the way your using it is different from the dictionary, then by definition it’s wrong (So much for clear on the point, I love how your asking me to look stuff up when you CLEARLY have no idea what you’re talking about).
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@secularmerlin
According to the dictionary there is no difference feel free to look back at the evidence I posted in your basic axiom forum.
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@secularmerlin
Do you really want to get into this valid/sound debacle again?
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@secularmerlin
No need I know enough about it (at least enough to spell it right lol).
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@secularmerlin
Please look up the running Krieger effect.
I think you meant Dunning–Kruger effect.
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@secularmerlin
I have my moments, don’t say anything stupid and you’ll probably see that side more often.
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@secularmerlin
I myself do not really think "evil" is a particularly good term
Your right it’s an “evil” term (pun intended).
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@secularmerlin
Then good things qualify as that, not evil things.
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@secularmerlin
I don’t get the distinction between a “necessary evil” and just plain evil.
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@3RU7AL
It might, if you follow it to its logical conclusion.
Which is?
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@secularmerlin
I am making the context clear now.
There’s nothing clear about subjectivity, it’s all arbitrary.
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@3RU7AL
What do you personally believe is a "good" example of an action that is NOT selfish?
Me answering that doesn’t resolve seculars A.F.S.F.S.M. problem.
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@zedvictor4
Not post bake....Everything becomes cake.
Difference is cakes logical existence isn’t in question.
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@secularmerlin
Well you didn’t provide much context in your opening statement.
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@secularmerlin
And an action you falsely labelled as selfish, and until you right that wrong A.F.S.F.S.M. will always be flawed.
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@secularmerlin
I am telling you right now the A.F.S.F.S.M. is a discussion about a motive
Doesn’t change the fact that you claimed (in this forum BTW) an action selfish that isn’t.
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@secularmerlin
And I’m informing you that based off of YOUR WORDS there is no error (at least on my part).
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@secularmerlin
you got the wrong idea
Not based off of YOUR WORDS I did.
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@secularmerlin
The actual conversation is about what might motivate people.
Well based off of WHAT YOU SAID and WHAT I ASKED it’s about other things as well.
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@secularmerlin
That does not necessitate that it is relevant to the conversation.
If you don’t think asking a question based on what someone said is relevant then you clearly don’t know what that word means.
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@secularmerlin
If you wanted to discuss something else you are welcome to make your own thread.
It’s not something else if it’s predicated on what YOU SAID.
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@secularmerlin
And so is action because I was able to logically extrapolate that from it.
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@secularmerlin
Yes it does, I didn’t extrapolate that question out of thin air it’s predicated on things YOU SAID.
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@secularmerlin
In order to do ANYTHING you have to act and acts are MOTIVATED by something.
So what? That’s not what I asked you.
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@secularmerlin
No that is a goal not an action.
No it’s both, when you provide a stranger money in order to do that you have to ACT. It’s like your getting duller by the hour or your trying to annoy me but if it’s the latter then game on kid.
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@secularmerlin
Just because you created the forum doesn’t mean your correct about everything it pertains to, and ACCORDING TO YOU providing for someone is apart of it and that’s an action not a motive whether you like it or not period.
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@secularmerlin
I think I would know the point of my own question, and considering it’s predicated on what YOU SAID that’s where the relevance is, that’s THE POINT.
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@3RU7AL
So, do you think you're (morally) responsible for providing for and attracting raccoons that carry rabies that end up infecting (and killing) your neighbor's dog?
What does this have to do with what we were previously discussing?
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@secularmerlin
Under the right circumstances the actions may coincidentally coincide but the motive is what this is about I assure you.
Your forum can be about whatever you want it to be about but WHAT I CHOOSE TO ASK YOU IS JUST THAT, WHAT I CHOOSE TO ASK YOU AND I ASKED YOU A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO AN ACTION AND THAT ACTION HAPPENS TO BE ONE THAT YOU’VE UTTERED PREVIOUSLY SO ITS NOT AS FARFETCHED AS YOUR MAKING IT OUT TO BE REGARDLESS OF THE FACT THAT YOU CREATED THE FORUM, YOUR RIGHT TO CREATE THE FORUM HAS NO BEARING ON MY RIGHT TO CRITIQUE IT PERIOD.
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@3RU7AL
Like perhaps you are providing for the raccoons that live off the trash you throw away?
I guess so
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@3RU7AL
So? Were you not listening, I wasn’t asking in regards to motives.
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@3RU7AL
is generally understood
Don’t speak for the general public, you aren’t the general public.
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@3RU7AL
...But giving someone a dollar is providing for someone else.
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@3RU7AL
Well the ACTION HE USED is providing for someone else, I think it’s reasonable to question the selfishness in that ACTION wouldn’t you?
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