That2User

only if RM plays.

Live and learn :)

You're certainly improving.

I am going to be 100% honest and say that if you don't buy into my theory that That2 is scum even just a little after saying "save me" when I am the only person voting her, then I will not respond to your posts at all. It will only waste time.

No, this is definitely scummy behavior. You sheeping WF is not town lmao.

This is not town behavior.

That leaves That2, Earth and Pie. My strongest scumread on that group is Earth, given that he's been rather evasive in his responses to me and started a wagon on That2 with almost no reasoning. Still deciding who the likely scum partner is, but unless he starts being quite a bit clearer in his reasoning, Earth will be my VTL after I get home.

but something struck me DP1.

Yeah, I know you both have pointed out this post and I get similar vibes from it. The issue I have here is that both Earth and That2 have come off as pretty scummy in this DP. Earth has been evasive, several times just straight up deciding not to answer pertinent questions about his behavior (note as well that he has been online at least once since my last post and has not responded), and That2 has taken the exact opposite tack of being way too detailed and specific in her responses in a way that we've never seen her do before.

Seems pretty obvious at this stage that the vote is between the two of them, it's mainly just a matter of which we choose. We've got time to think this over and I want to take it, given that it's MYLO. It's possible that I'm just agonizing over which of two scum is the better lynch today, but I don't want to take any chances. I do find it odd that Earth put an early vote down on That2 if they are a scum team, though I am having trouble remembering if he has a history of bussing.

Anyway, I'll come back to this tomorrow.

But targeting RM/Barney would’ve ensure that you’d be safe. You could argue that I would never have shot my bestie RM.

You couldn’t hit WF because he basically outted Doctor and could possibly self-protect. 

Also, you have yet to answer why Earth would bus me instead of the other way around

Also, did y’all notice that That2 brought all the receipts with her? I have never seen her do that, ever, especially in all the Town roles she’s been in.

This just screams scum

If you wanted to play a pressure based claim, why did you claim so early? You had like virtually zero votes on you. You agreed to claim when there was sufficient pressure per my strategy. The fact that you claimed right after RMs Vanillaizer claim and him saying there has to be vanillas is very scummy.

Even if you are vanilla, you shouldn’t have claimed, because it gives scum the opportunity to POE the PRs in the game. More of your inexperience, which just solidifies my claim.

But again, you claimed with zero pressure. Just because someone asks you to claim, doesn’t mean you should. This also shows how much you were buddying RM as I pointed out earlier. You claimed eagerly with zero thought. More inexperience.

You were following the game the entire time. The only reason you switched was because RM asked you to switch to me. More buddying of RM. Why? 

I hammered Supa because I am a firm believer in information, as I have maintained in all my games. He also seemed super defeatist towards the end and I always had my doubts. If you recall, I mentioned that Supa’s tunneling seems off. Towards the end he because defeatist too.

It’s rather odd that you’re calling me out when you voted Supa for more information as well.

At least you admit it. But it’s still very weird

This post feels off:

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8159/post-links/354196

Kinda getting me as scum vibes when I try too hard.

Only inexperience would allow you to target Barney for an NK. If they had an RB, it would be even worse that they didn’t use it on you or me. This strategy just screams inexperience from Earth’s vote on That2 to That2’s vote on me

My top scum read right now is That2 for a couple of reasons.

First, she agreed to not claiming in the vote I had, knowing full well what it entailed.

Let’s get a vote.

Do you all want to go with RM’s strategy and have everyone say whether they are PRs or not and after everyone is done, claim

OR

Play normally and pressure people based on behavior.

Second, when RM barely pressured her, she immediately claimed. It was super eager, like no question or hesitation, which leads me to believe she used a fake claim.

Third, she was buddying RM the entire game and then just flipped to Supa out of the blue, which I haven’t seen from her.

Fourth, there were some questions that she had for RM, that she never followed up on, which is really weird. If I posed a question, I would want an answer.

I saw your message and I would’ve preferred that, but given that everyone else was pushing for it, I knew it would make the end of this DP even more frustrating if I held out. With virtually everyone else calling for me to claim, I had little choice.

I kinda thought it was you and Supas. But then you voted him, and in a odd fashion.

I guess NL...I kinda want That2 lynched but that's not happening. I'll put Pie and RM in my town pile, and I believe WF, so...

Scum hunting in my books is asking for reads. Asking questions to people. Seeing how they respond.

Pie is all defense, zero offense.

Pie as Town is a bloodthirsty aggressor that rips to pieces those that stand in his way 

He is passive/chill, friendly, charismatic, the polar opposite to Town Pie especially if tunnelled.

 It is a self preservation playstyle he has employed here and not even a collective preservation style as he had no issue with others outing, he let the day flow calmly. He has not defended against lynching anyone, did you notice? That is not his town style.

He is passive/chill, friendly, charismatic, the polar opposite to Town Pie especially if tunnelled.

The interactions between Pie and others is extremely off, nothing like his Town play. He is barely grilling at all.

Supa said he is 100% right wing.

His theory is almost definitrlt Q anon and/or election steal.

This fits my own and even your own in multiple ways of the scum is more sanitary conspiracy theories, which is my current suspicion as I truly see a pie wf team viable.

Supa is flipping Town.

PoE favors Earth or you 

Not really sure I'd write off a GP/Earth scum team, but if you do feel strongly about that, then GP should largely be eliminated by POE for you. He'd have to be hard bussing Supa for that to be a viable scum team, and while I don't put it past him, the way he's doing it here speaks more to his town behavior than his scum bussing.

Like Pie, I think it's a good idea to get as much information out of flips as possible