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@Vader
Who gives a f*ck?They were big on DDO and people know them as the memers
You being big on DDO doesn't mean you are big on DA. There is a difference because where were they before bsh1 resigned? Did they even bother to look at the context? How would they know if this is a common occurrence instead of a slip up?
This is only if they actually care about looking at things honestly without being an ideologue. I know one person who doesn't care that I have messaged.
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So a human is still a human even if it is dead?A chopped off human arm is 100% human but not alive.
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@AvoidDeath
He's a cool guy, don't get me wrong, but he has a few misunderstandings.
Thread about your personal grievances not about the resignation itself. You are not only a liar but also too much of a coward to say it when he was in charge.
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@3RU7AL
So a chopped arm is a human?Cells that are part of (or grown from cells that were at one point part of) a human.
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@ShabShoral
@Annie_ESocialBookworm
Why are less than 100 forum posters dictating what is right or wrong? Please give me a break.
Not speaking up when bsh1 said something so ridiculously inappropriate would passively implying that what he did was okay. It is not okay. It is wrong and absolutely unacceptable.
Tell me Annie do you not realize the person who would be justifiably offended PressF4 was not offended or maybe that doesn't fit into your narrative? You came back to spout your nonsensical opinions as if it was important. The only thing you have shown is you don't care about what occurred only that bsh1 did bad so I am going leave out the context as if it doesn't matter. Newsflash context always matters. Who would have thought a person who sponsors to the Religion of peace doesn't actually support peace? Really ironic and testament of what Islam isn't. Peaceful.
I think ESocial is sincere and the most sympathetic of the Anti-BSH crowd — I have serious reservations about the recent wave of vigilantism. I cannot help but see this as happening only because of preexisting sentiments; this situation reeks of individuals using horrifically disproportionate tactics to exploit an opportunity.
You say Annie is the most sympathetic but that is thrown right out of the window with Annie exploiting this opportunity. I want to see people who are less sympathetic to actually find your claims to be serious.
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@3RU7AL
What is human cells?Anything that is living and comprised of 100% human cells.
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@HistoryBuff
No you have feelings. I have facts. I have demonstrated that by supporting my claims with evidence while you have consistently show not to bring in evidence or your evidence doesn't stand against scrutiny.We have our differences as well.
I also think you are an overly... aggressive debtor and this also detracts from your ability to have a discussion.
I don't believe we value the same things. That is the problem. I can't expect people to care about evidence instead of some socialist utopia so I would only hope that you finally realize with reason your feelings are wrong about something that is factual.
But at least you are capable of remaining mostly civil in your criticism.
And you remain civil without giving substantial points.
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@3RU7AL
What are you defining a human to be as?Human cells.
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@HistoryBuff
This made it impossible to actually engage in any meaningful discussion.
People do not need to answer your questions. Imabench has clearly shown he knows what he is talking about with the polling data he presents. You on the other hand are an ideologue. Not one claim you brought up against me stood and you didn't even bother to attempt to rebut my claims when I had problem with the evidence that you did bring up. Even with the lackluster arguments you bring up you still say the things you do showing you care more about ideology than what is correct.
Imabench might have ad-hommed you (I haven't seen it) but at least he brings in sources that stand against scrutiny. Not only you don't bring evidence that I don't have problems with you don't even bother to defend it.
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@Imabench
Yay I guess.
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@HistoryBuff
So you blocked Imabench and not me? I am offended.
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@3RU7AL
How did you get this conclusion?The sperm is 100% human and 100% alive.The egg is also 100% human and 100% alive.
No. Like all moral theory, it's a simple matter of jurisdiction.
Rephrase this or put it into much simpler terms because I don't know how the first question need rephrasing.
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The sperm is 100% human and 100% alive.The egg is also 100% human and 100% alive.
How did you determine that?
No. Like all moral theory, it's a simple matter of jurisdiction.
I asked about morals for a reason.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Yes but that doesn't address what I just realized that you said "many immigrants" don't have birth certificates. Do you have that as a percentage or per 1,000 or something?the number/amount is irrelevant to the point of whether someone does or does not need a birth certificate to have rights.
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@David
Just realized bsh1 left. What the f*ck. Now the dynamic would be in jeopardy. The Yin bsh1 and Yang Virtuoso is no more. Now there is Speedrace so it is all up in the air if you decide to have conflict which is good if you want two positions to be platformed not one. An extra idea is an extra one that could be a good idea is another reason.
This man is a traitor to the throne. Not only is he grifting being a conservative when he is advocating for a communist/anarchist position he would also like to remove your position.
Positives of doing so
The end of a known conspiracy theorist
Messages across the land will spread of your dominance
It is a cool thing to do
Negatives of doing so
What the f*ck man. It is really dumb if you don't.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
I don't know what you are saying here. Are you agreeing that saying just immigrants leaves you open to people simply make up if it is a lot or not?it was an over exaggeration, how about refugees, how many of them have i.d. and or birth certificates? illegals crossing the border?
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@Wylted
Why would I do such a thing?This is the abolition party. Maybe you can join and you guys can decide to run a candidate who will abolish the office
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@Wylted
Can you make a separate list of people who don't want this to happen? Add me on that one if you do decide to create it.
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@bsh1
This man is a traitor to the throne. Not only is he grifting being a conservative when he is advocating for a communist/anarchist position he would also like to remove your position.
Positives of doing so
The end of a known conspiracy theorist
Messages across the land will spread of your dominance
It is a cool thing to do
Negatives of doing so
What the f*ck man. It is really dumb if you don't.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
some how's that?doesn't negate the point that just because someone doesn't have a birth certificate doesn't mean they don't still have rights, that better for you now?
I am not saying it doesn't happen. I am saying stating immigrants without quantifying with like half, most, some etc does leave it open to interpretation. This can be over-exaggerating an example or the opposite.
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@3RU7AL
I meant human life. When does it start?Life begins BEFORE conception.
Why ought we care about a choice a mother makes within her own private sovereign territory?
You are just dodging the question and instead returning one to me. You haven't stated the problem with my question so do you want to state the problem with my question or answer it?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
I think he was using US as an example not some 3rd world country. Can you demonstrate most immigrants don't have birth certificates? The reason I stated most is that it is unfair to have this as an argument when it is not correct for most immigrants.many immigrants don't have or can't produce a birth certificate....then again at one time there was no such thing so....
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@3RU7AL
At conception, a living cell combines with another living cell and their dna is mixed together and the hybrid cells begin to multiply.
Are you saying life begins at conception?
I believe the real question is, "at what point is it anyone else's (other than the mother's) business or concern?"
This is under the axiom we ought to care about a choice of a mother over a life right?
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@3RU7AL
When do you think life should start?
I don't really want the law just what you would like the law to be.
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@3RU7AL
Where do you think life starts?
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@Speedrace
Do you want to debate it again?
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@Speedrace
You won because I didn't even attempt rebuttals. I would've won if I had rebuttals. Do you accept that?You yourself said I won because of my rebuttals...meaning that mine were better lol
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@zedvictor4
When someone with enough power can change the rules.At what point does a law cease to be reasonable?
Once upon a time Adolph Hitler thought his laws were reasonable.
Yes and then he was stopped.
Are you a moral anti-realist?
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@zedvictor4
I guess the law would be determined by is it reasonable to blame for the abortion if not it is a miscarriage?
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@Speedrace
The only thing I needed to do was to rebut yout claims. You had less and mine were better.
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@Speedrace
Why did you say you won because of the rebuttals then?
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@Speedrace
Don't you think it was implied that I made the better arguments from what you said?
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@Speedrace
No?Oh wait a minute I thought that was the Jesus debate lol
Then what is your answer?
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@Speedrace
Are you admitting that Christianity is a bad moral system to follow if so why are you still a Christian?
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@Speedrace
You won because of rebuttals not because of your opening arguments.You hardly put any effort into it lol but ok
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@Wylted
Were you here for my other responses?
I can also get leeway because I define authority in a way to support my argument. You missed out key words like good and bad which are required if you don't want to give arguments for anarchy.
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@Wylted
I trust an authority who has presented clear reasons why TheHammer is banned over a conspiracy theorist. Didn't I make it clear the difference between you two?Good attitude. Never question authority. Just like in nazi germany
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@Mage-CPA
I wouldn't say so. People just can't help but spread opinions about things an authority has an answer for.Is this level of drama normal on this website?
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@zedvictor4
What would you define miscarriage as?
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@Vader
Was your goal to add every one in?
I much rather have a well written story excluding a ton of characters than an a ton of characters that people basically shoved them together.
It is kinda like did you think of the set-pieces before making a well written beginning, middle and end?
Why not AROSE?
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@Wylted
All you had to do is clearly lay out positions but it is my fault you can't answer questions giving arguments for anarchy.
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@Wylted
Quote where you advocated for laws. Give me a break. You advocated laws were bad which heavily implies you are against laws. You even got baited by my off-hand comment to be an anarchist.I don't propose a lawless society, but one with perfect laws.
This was to point out we should not adhere to or care about imperfect laws, because being willing to adhere to bad laws, is why we had slavery and why Hitler got away with killing 6 million Jews.
The word "bad" was missing from your previous responses. Not my fault you pretty much made an argument for anarchy because of the crucial words you missed.
I used a personal anecdote, to further prove my point that laws are imperfect and should be disregarded. Not all laws are imperfect. Not raping people seems like a good law for most circumstances, so I would advise following g that law.
No you didn't. It was an appeal to emotion because you were using an emotional anecdote to appear convincing. Even here you can't even make a good point. Instead of explaining how anything was supporting a hidden imperfect law claim you pretty much state a truism. Good job showing how incompetent you are at addressing my points and even developing your own points while also not clearly laying out what you mean.
I look forward to another not well thought through response. I also like it how you didn't even bother to address the other complaints. You are simply picking what you like because maybe you can't argue against the other points.
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