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@oromagi
No?? They are allowed to be out of the closet - and yes- they should be ashamed for being a police officer and contributing to the systemic oppression - I don't think you understand what "oppressed" means. Telling imperialist that invaded a nation and pillaged their lands that they should be ashamed IS the right thing to do, and that goes the same for the people who let them do that - encouraged and supported those pillagers.
Also, and I hate to use this kind of stuff, but you are being a moron. I never said that "Mob law", I'm saying we need to rebuild a system to take the police's job to do the same thing - it's extremely neccessary - the fact that you don't believe its possible literally means nothing to me, you've made assertions and nothing else. The police are corrupt from their roots, and are one of the most corrupt departments on the face of the planet - you have to pull from the roots to get 'em out, then replace them with something that actually helps increase decrease crime.
Cuz' ya know- more police per capita doesn't actually decrease crime - not according to the numbers in America.
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@oromagi
What?? They are allowed to come - just not in uniform?? "Oppress" That's the word you wanna use for not allowed to come in uniform? Your spewing bullshit now. And systemic oppression by the police is a problem EVERYWHERE in the U.S, its a problem with the system as a WHOLE. And not just for LGBT people. for minorities of all different kinds - in general - the US Police Department has a problem with brutality and corruption - we should be focusing on getting rid of ALL of the police, and replacing it with a much less corrupted department.
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@oromagi
You do not represent every gay person who has been harmed by the police - the antigay police is not the only reason why they shouldn't march in police at pride - your also missing the entire systemic oppression thing they do.
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@TheUnderdog
"big d*ck" is another way to say alpha - which is a psuedoscientific classification of people that shows your ineptitude. Furthermore, a "soyboy" is an interesting claim, and based on phytoestrogen in soy - however - that claim has been debunked time after time, soy has no effect on level of testosterone, and actually causes increases in sperm count.
You see phytoestrogen is named that way because of its chemical structure is similar to estrogen, but the composition is completely different. In your terms, you've been cucked.
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@RationalMadman
You are attempting to claim that an entire demographic has an attribute - i.e - increased athletic ability without any representative evidence to demonstrate your claims.
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@RationalMadman
To make a claim that attempts to be representative and generalize almost 4 million people? No. No its not enough.
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@RationalMadman
Sure buddy, claim I'm the arrogant one - you have ONE example and nothing else that is even remotely valid. Why the hell would I be convinced by one example? And claims that have exactly ZERO evidence behind them - not to mention active evidence against your claim. I'm not dodging, and again, you are being intellectually dishonest -= would you like me to list the posts proving that chronologically or alphabetically?
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@coal
In America, it is mostly referencing abrahamic gods, perhaps grammatically you are indeed correct, but not in the context of the public school system. You are just so far off track there.
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@Vader
coolio, according to the math tho, I'm on track to be ahead of you - cuz' you've apparently slowed down a gooood bit. Plus, if I keep up being more active I could easily cross 2k in four months. I didn't even post anything in my first three months.
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@fauxlaw
I don't care about your uber specific way of phrasing things, we are talking are about generalities, in general, when capitalizing the word god we are referencing the abrahamic god, get over it bud.
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@RationalMadman
You mean your lack of any data, your lack answering the win percentage, and your lack of citing literally anything aside from outliers? How the hell am I "dodging" anything compared to you.
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@fauxlaw
In America, whenever we capitilize the word god, we are referring to the abrahamic god of the bible. I don't use Wiki, have fun with the irrelevent source.
When the noun god is used generically, especially in reference to a non-Biblical god, it is not capitalized.
English speakers also traditionally capitalize the pronoun He in reference to God. This remains a common practice among people of faith, but it is by no means obligatory.
In phrases like for God’s sake, by God, and thank God, the word is capitalized because it generally refers to the god of the Bible and treats the word as a name.
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@fauxlaw
Gender, and even sex, isn't determined by chromosomal composition. As things such as intersex people and people with Swyer Syndrome demonstrate. Your classification of "gender" and "sex" is ruefully outdated.
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@Vader
Actually I'm more active than you are.
You've been here since August 22, 2018, and have, in your near three years here, written 12,648 posts. That's roughly 1035 days, and 12 posts per day.
I've been here since September 14, 2020, and have, in my around 8 months here, written 3,194 posts. That's roughly 240 days, and 13 posts per day.
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@RationalMadman
Um... do you have any sources to back up the claims in regards to those biological components in women?
And if muscle mass and pain tolerence is the same and not affected by hormones, how come athletes that tend to compete in the 50th percentile and less against men, also compete at that level among women? You are dodging points, and unable to actually make any solid arguments, instead you rely on others to make your points (not that they do much better), after specifically making the claim yourself.
This is the height of intellectual dishonesty. And it's not just an accusation, I could list every action I accused you of right now, would you like that?
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@fauxlaw
The fact that you capitalized god kinda proves his point - the capital "G" in the god of the pledge is specifically referring to the abrahamic gods, that is his "name" per say. If would be like saying that a song that referenced a specific nickname of a person wasn't referring to that person because it didn't reference their specific name - its a faulty argument.
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@oromagi
I don't really see any major flaws here - I actually think the plan's a good one - are there any bits here that you don't like or something you would want to add?
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@Conway
Yes it is - capital "G" god, specifically refers to the gods of the abrahamic religions, don't try to pull that semantic stuff.
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@Wylted
And that sounds like something someone who made up Wylted bucks would say
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@Wylted
Wylted bucks aren't an accepted form of currency here.
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@3RU7AL
Right, but there can be an event caused by multiple things, no?
The existence of x does not preclude the existence of y.
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@Reece101
Better idea, completely remove religious language from the pledge and you fix it.
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@RationalMadman
@SkepticalOne
@badger
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Badger
Theweakeredge
@SkepticalOne
If he agrees I'll add him
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I say Wylted claim to be president of DART, and partially out of spite, partially cuz' it'd be cool - I wanted to see if anyone is actually interested in nominating themselves for an election to be president of the website... what would it entail? I have literally no idea, bragging points? Some weird mod position? Ask Debate.Art, I don't know.
Reply if you're interested
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@Wylted
you aren't president, I've already told you why. Also, even if you were, you'd have exactly zero executive powers.
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@Wylted
Currency made up by you, given to that guy, used for you - that sounds like less metaphorical bullshit.
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@Wylted
... cuz badger is influential sure - I'M more influential than Badger and that's sad, cuz' I'm not that influential - and I endorsed both Historybuff and Oromagi, actually, your opponent also endorsed Oromagi.
There should be official nominations, personally I would nominate two people:OromagiHistorybuff
Me, post #2
If Oromagi wants to run, I'd probably support him over me which is saying something. I'm unsure if he wants to though
TheUnderdog, post #3
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@n8nrgmi
Nope, going to that link and reading the post, most of it is new sources and unverified testimonials
So I then went to that NDE website... and uh, 90% of are articles written by a dude named Kevin Williams. A dude with a computer tech degree, and a book compiling testimony... and a complete lack of peer reivewed evidence to support his claim. This is literally in the very FIRST scientific article cited in the website titled "evidence".
"In all of the cases that we have described in this paper, the experiencer reported all three features that we discussed earlier as having the most relevance for the question of survival of consciousness: normal or enhanced mentation when the physical body is ostensibly unconscious, seeing the physical body from a different position in space, and perceiving events beyond the normal range of the physical senses. We believe that when these three features occur together, they provide convergent evidence that at least suggests that consciousness can function independently of the physical body and hence may survive the death of that body. We emphasize that such evidence is only suggestive. No matter how serious their condition, persons reporting NDEs were in fact still alive in some sense, since their bodies were still functioning sufficiently to be revived. NDEs can therefore never provide conclusive evidence concerning what may happen to consciousness when the brain and body are no longer revivable."
And even THIS is given an extremely small sample of 14 cases.
All in all, even the methodological findings and evidence of the cases reported in the paper are suspect - its a bunch of crap.
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@Wylted
You have literally no authority, and If you did I would want neither of you- and unlike presidential elections, there is no reason why we don't just nominate completely different candidates.
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@Wylted
It is a different community though, it would be like if the king of the franks tried to declare himself king of Rome because most of the people came from there - not how things work buddy,
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@Wylted
Well you didn't ask him before he said something, he challenged you, and then you did that.
Furthermore, nope, that would make you an emperor, not a president.
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@Wylted
No need, since you aren't the president of Dart - also
"You can be my vice president, if you drop this nonsense."
-Wylted #6
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@Wylted
Um... you have listed no proof nor any sources to said proof.
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@Wylted
I would say bribery is beneath you... but I'd be lying
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@TheUnderdog
There should be official nominations, personally I would nominate two people:
Oromagi
Historybuff
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@Wylted
You understand neither context nor nuance, an extremely bad faith acter, or a lier - maybe all three!
My post specifically stated:
It's good research (though your use of news sources is... questionable), but I would recommend a more structured and more obviously substantiated post. People like to deny arguments by all avenues, making your post needlessly hard to read just gives them another excuse
Please notice the word before "substantiated", which is OBVIOUSLY. Now, please turn your attention to the sentence directly following, specifically this bit: "making your post needlessly hard to read just gives them another excuse". You not reading posts well isn't my problem, its yours.
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@Wylted
According to Cambridge dictionary: "to show something to be true, or to support a claim with facts::"
More colloquially, substantiated means that something (in this context usually an assertion) is backed up with valid evidence and is most likely true. You specifically called it more substantiated than any post I've created (cool, again, don't care what you think about research mister I accept my sources from youtube videos), I specifically responded clarifying that my criticism was never of the research - which is what you specifically commented on - but the presentation.
You reply "do you know what substantiated means"
You are the equivalent of an eighth grader saying "No you." when their teacher corrects them. get over yourself bud.
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@Wylted
Sure bud, I really don't care what you of all people think of research. But if you read my post you'd know I was criticizing the presentation not the research:
"It's good research (though your use of news sources is... questionable), but I would recommend a more structured and more obviously substantiated post. People like to deny arguments by all avenues, making your post needlessly hard to read just gives them another excuse"
Also... definitely not - the best researched stuff comes from Oromagi and FLRW....
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@Wylted
Oh no, the homelessness thing, sure whatever, I don't care - I'm talking about your interpretation of what it takes to stay that way - that's clearly bullshit, and tells me you most likely aren't homeless - but that wasn't what i was initially skeptical about
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@Wylted
I'm sure you're also crippled and unable to walk, and gay, and unable to type well - your track record definitely allows us to take your word at face value.
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@DianaLambert
That'd be a legitmately interesting thing to research
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@Wylted
No -- you are asserting as such - but this isn't that thread; I want evidence that Trump won the election - which is what this thread is about.
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@ILikePie5
Yes, the suburbs is definitely a big part of it, but they've been blue for a decade - so the new purple is not just suburbs - its also rural.
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@Wylted
I think I understand perfectly well. Well enough to know how off topic this is, well enough to know that my answer remains the same - I reiterate my point. I don't debate anymore regardless, and even if I did, I wouldn't debate you. Funny enough that you can't even pretend to actually have evidence though.
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