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Greyparrot...
How much cocaine did you do to vote Barney like that...Hunter Biden would like a word
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@Lunatic
Yeah exactly. I kind of figured I'd be dying Np2 but at least getting to live at NP2 would've implicated Barney's result to be way more true
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@Lunatic
Yes I figured. I knew you did. In our after life PM with Pie and the other I was screaming that this screamed of Luna waive mostly for framing implications at MYLO and because of the last game LOL.
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My gut reads before the POE and death were JoeBob Luna Banana for a 3 person scum. 2/3 were correct so I'll take it. My shot was going to be between Joe and Luna but I was going to probably go for Luna tbh
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@Lunatic
Did you just waive the NK or did you actually get RB'd?
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@iamanabanana
You need to understand how to think critically in mafia. People had to explain to you 7 times that it is possible for 2 killing roles to exist yet you blindly killed the only way that town had a path to victory. Sure, even if you did have a CC, which you didn't even have in this game. Your refusal to even give any info about your role made it 10 times as hard for town. Your role didn't implicate shit. I can understand not knowing the mechanics of the game, that is fair. But town and other explained it to you that it feasibly possible for this to exist in this game. You just feasible ignored that, OMGUS'd the hell out of the game, made yourself look scummy as fuck, then shot the only way we could limit scum because I was going to shoot Luna NP2
I understand not understanding how to play and mechanics. I get that. But when it's spoon fed to you in this game, when 90% of the town is TOWN READING ME, and I am not on any scum radar, you still decide to shoot me. That's not being noob, that's just being stubborn and lacking of situational context.
I understand not understanding how to play and mechanics. I get that. But when it's spoon fed to you in this game, when 90% of the town is TOWN READING ME, and I am not on any scum radar, you still decide to shoot me. That's not being noob, that's just being stubborn and lacking of situational context.
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@whiteflame
Great Teacher Onizuka was an excellent manga that I picked up. Really overall great show. Some skpetical parts of it but it honestly becomes a really great show
I've also enjoyed reading Kingdom. Kingdom's world building is on par with One Piece's (to a lesser degree). However, I find myself a lot more invested in some of the villains, mainly Ri Boku. He's arguably a top 3 villain that I've read in animanga on par with the likes of Aizen and Johan. Coalition Invasion is seriously a top 10 arc as well.
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@CatholicApologetics
Ill ping you when sign ups come out
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@Greyparrot
For better or worse, our society has outsourced morality to the government in place of religion
It is truly sad to see how society has propped up government as this god and end all be only when He is the end all be all. They work to appease their mortals in their party, versus the ultimate judge and juror when the lights close. Some people find solice in that, but I just can't.
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The people's brains have degraded and they will never be liberated from misery because they are the cause of misery and evil.Anyone hoping for a better world in next 60 years will be disappointed.In order for there to be a better world, people need to be smart and good. But people are retarded and evil.There cannot be a good world made out of retards and the wicked.
Humans will never achieve ultimate good due to will to want more. Human greed will always be a factor. I think you are looking at things from a more pessismistic lense, but I don't think you are wrong. Ultimately it is important because on ensuring that you prioritize your own self needs before others. Ultimately, you will just be dissapointed trying to appeal to others because humans will likely dissapoint you due to their nature. I hold hope that the world CAN be better in 60 years, but to say I will be shocked if it isn't would be a lie and I've accepted that.
Maximize your life. Pursue a hobby. Work a job. Generate revenue to see things around the world. Live without fear. Don't look to others for validation for your achievements. Prioritize self validation. From there you can form relationships with others.
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It has been around 4 years since I drafted this post: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5597-growing-older-i-ve-lost-identity-to-a-political-party?page=1
Looking back at this post I think there are contentions that I would agree with, but there are some things that I think I was just blatently wrong on based on my findings and time in college.
Things I am adament still:
The government is untrustworthy and should have no part dictating specifics on
Government sits on a pedestal of authority, only to work with corporations themselves and them claiming themselves to be the sole masterminds of equity
This is still true 100% and I stand by this more than ever. The amount of wasteful spending that government does to say it's benefiting citizens is deplorable and remains deplorable. Government work for the interest of themselves, in a position where they are supposed to work for the people. It is frankily pretty sickening to see such actions being involved. The motivation for government is to benefit yourself and receive backdoor funds from political groups so you can take a side. It is still bullshit and government should have a minimal say in a persons lives, especially a national government
Things I would change / be more recultant on:
The trust of corporations
The trust of corporations
corporations are not entitled to be "righteous."
I would probably disagree with this setement I have on corporations aren't entitled to be righteous. I think that I would obvious agree with the statement, I think having coprorations control aspect of your life do no good either. Corporations ultimate goal is to: make money. They can help consumers, obviously, but they are looking to draw the most out and corporations that are deregulated to the extent I described they should be can easily create monopolies and rapidly increase inflation. Corporations can act for their people, but have the ultimate objective to generate income?
So where do I stand?
So where do I stand?
Trust no one. Live your life. Act for yourself. Do what's beneficial to you. At the end of the day focusing on governments and companies and trying to be an advocate for either is performance and a waste of time. It takes major time and major campaigning to make a drastic change. You invest all your time into doing that just to barely have an impact in your life? The solutions to corporations up-charging? Go to a cheaper store and buy the same product. Develop yourself. That's whats important at the end of the day
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@Casey_Risk
I think that's fair to be honest. I honestly have no clue how I'm going to scum read this besides basic behaviors and that might not even be enough
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@Owen_T
Pretty much, but here's a question
You were a nice cookie giver or whatever in the game.
Who did you give your cookie too?
You were a nice cookie giver or whatever in the game.
Who did you give your cookie too?
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@iamanabanana
Are you going to think logically this time or are you going to make a claim that "Vader is scummy" without having substantive evidence besides something that got disproven 10 forum pages ago
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Ok so the cookies are interesting and now we can finally talk about them
Who received cookies? Who didn't receive cookies?
Who received cookies? Who didn't receive cookies?
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@Mharman
I agree with the statement. His application is purely biased though
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@Mharman
Noting ur reads.
In a zoom meeting though but I think I know what ur picking up on
In a zoom meeting though but I think I know what ur picking up on
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@Mharman
Already given the power im pretty sure but i could be miscalculating the votes wrong.
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@Lunatic
I don't think your play in this DP has made me deviate to a great degree. I still hold the same reads noting what you said in your breakdown has changed that besides maybe your analysis on banana. And even then, my point are still being proven this DP. I understand that you do not think creating commentary about Banana will do benefit, but at least players like Mharman and WF have came in with continuous insight. That's why you are still in my POE
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I am angry that america lost to Canada in hockey and we lost to the woke shit country. Will be giving reads when I’m sober
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So I am pretty much caught up to a degree and my reads really haven't deviated that much. I think Barney seems like a lean town, Owen is telling the truth, Wf is also still a lean town, Pie is probably town.
I have an FoS on Joe, Luna, and Mharman (while despite him being town read, there's some oddities I have noticed about his behavior that strike me the wrong way. Almost as if he's trying to find a way to justify some of the bad plays of Banana throughout the DP until it's likely not possible to justify it anymore).
GP is null cuz it's GP but honestly I have no reason to suspect GP of faking that his character got switched from Crab God.
Austin should be consider but his behavior is trending to lean town from his analysis.
I've stated my reason why my reads are they have ever been solidified, or slightly changed but not enough to have a sustantial post. I've done it a lot this DP
I have an FoS on Joe, Luna, and Mharman (while despite him being town read, there's some oddities I have noticed about his behavior that strike me the wrong way. Almost as if he's trying to find a way to justify some of the bad plays of Banana throughout the DP until it's likely not possible to justify it anymore).
GP is null cuz it's GP but honestly I have no reason to suspect GP of faking that his character got switched from Crab God.
Austin should be consider but his behavior is trending to lean town from his analysis.
I've stated my reason why my reads are they have ever been solidified, or slightly changed but not enough to have a sustantial post. I've done it a lot this DP
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@whiteflame
Yeah. I think I have an idea of who is scum but I am also have had a lot of shifting reads this DP. I don't have an idea yet of who I would wanna shoot or even if I get a shot (assuming if Banana is telling the truth and kills a town player like they said they would)
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So it's clear that Barney wants me to get my role again in the NP. I don't think that is what town really wants at this point and tbh, I think I kind of FoS that. Sure I probably hit scum last DP, but the guarantee I hit scum again is pretty low. The balance of 3P makes the game some weird variant of potentially a 9v3v1v1 and that may not even be the case, in fact I have no clue
Right now the assumption (unless anyone claims anything different) the game is 8v2v1 OR 7v3v1 depending on what you think Savant is. The odds of hitting scum are still relatively low from what I am seeing
Right now the assumption (unless anyone claims anything different) the game is 8v2v1 OR 7v3v1 depending on what you think Savant is. The odds of hitting scum are still relatively low from what I am seeing
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@Barney
@iamanabanana
This right here is all the evidence you need that vader is scum, his whole point is that im lying, yet here he admits that I am going to shoot him because he is scared. If he was town he wouldn't believe this and would think it an idle threat. He knows I am not lying.
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@Barney
If my powers get activated, who do you want me to shoot?
Basically top scum reads
Basically top scum reads
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Mharman
@Owen_T
Not going to address scum because it's pointless but since it's very obvious what I think Banana's real role is based on the claim and their role mechanic (just a bomb) + not to mention there role is Hamas which is widely considered a terrorist organization. But at this point Banana is giving us no information to find useful in this DP. Without the discussion of [redacted by mod Wylted], I see no other alternative discussion that is going to progress the debate. It's just going to go in a straight circle of arguing about who you believe is right. I will say I am a bit shocked at the lack of claims we have gotten from this DP so maybe I wouldn't mind going for someone to claim here. But I think suffice to say I have no issue lynching Banana at some point these new couple of days.
Since I am going to assume that Banana is going to shoot me because I shot her scum buddy Savant and does not want to risk that happening again. I am also gonna say again, her argument has zero merit because like I said, her only argument is that there can't be 2 killing roles and, again, this is not true as Lunatic pointed out with a PGO and a Bookie existing in a game. Israel as scum, hamas as scum, the theme is all but there at this point. The way she claimed it was a long justification and the only one that has a scummy role and is likely scum is Savant...yeah I think this is the obvious lynch
I am probably going to give an updated reads list based on what I've seen this DP, the logic that every player has used to jusitfy banana and whether there judgement is scummy or towny. That can be a basis for my assumed death when Banana hopefully gets lynched. Also btw there was no reason for them to hide that role. That shit is not game breaking. Almost as if they were stalling
Since I am going to assume that Banana is going to shoot me because I shot her scum buddy Savant and does not want to risk that happening again. I am also gonna say again, her argument has zero merit because like I said, her only argument is that there can't be 2 killing roles and, again, this is not true as Lunatic pointed out with a PGO and a Bookie existing in a game. Israel as scum, hamas as scum, the theme is all but there at this point. The way she claimed it was a long justification and the only one that has a scummy role and is likely scum is Savant...yeah I think this is the obvious lynch
I am probably going to give an updated reads list based on what I've seen this DP, the logic that every player has used to jusitfy banana and whether there judgement is scummy or towny. That can be a basis for my assumed death when Banana hopefully gets lynched. Also btw there was no reason for them to hide that role. That shit is not game breaking. Almost as if they were stalling
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@iamanabanana
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@iamanabanana
Yeah let's just get Banana today and get this over with. Banana is so obviously scum at this point. My guess is that they are telling the truth about their role but are just scum affiliated so I'm essentially dying this DP no matter what so let's get this over withOkay if I die you are coming with me. Hopefully town can figure out your mafia buddies later, but at least I'll have gotten one :)
It looks like I already took out one of your teammates already so honestly a 2 scum for 1 town tradeoff doesn't really work for your favor
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@iamanabanana
So you went from saying, my PM is about the israel and hamas debate, then to now about hamas?
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I don't know how many times I am going to say this because at this point I've felt like I'm stating this every damn time I hop on the post.
1, And even more now, is that banana did not CC me in any way.
2, My role is broken only if town wants it to be broken. If I don't get to 3 votes at any point during this DP, I don't have a shot.
Nothing about that is game breaking unless you make it game breaking. I genuinely don't understand how some people are seeming to just forget this information and I come back to it time and time again
1, And even more now, is that banana did not CC me in any way.
2, My role is broken only if town wants it to be broken. If I don't get to 3 votes at any point during this DP, I don't have a shot.
Nothing about that is game breaking unless you make it game breaking. I genuinely don't understand how some people are seeming to just forget this information and I come back to it time and time again
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Yeah let's just get Banana today and get this over with. Banana is so obviously scum at this point. My guess is that they are telling the truth about their role but are just scum affiliated so I'm essentially dying this DP no matter what so let's get this over with
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I am a bit lost with some of the cookie giver stuff. Don't know what more to say and what else there can be said. Like I said before, mechanically speaking there is no way that Savant is town with a role that hides his flip. If you believe that Earth gave him a cookie that does that, then idk. Why would Earth do this though?
Don't get how that logically intertwines at all
I think we need to focus on scum and town.
Don't get how that logically intertwines at all
I think we need to focus on scum and town.
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I hate buying the lie that Pie said because in general lying as town unless it's for a good reason is scummy, but honestly the way he set it up hinted that he was going to be some type of role. I'm still interested how he got the transgender fake claim though.
I have a pretty decent town read on him
I have a pretty decent town read on him
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I am also gonna do some mod psyche but realistically a game with 1 vet, 2 noobs (1 player having experience but limited) (assuming mafia had 3 players and knowing Earth was TP, I think we can assume 3 mafia but idk) seems like an optimal scum team and from a probably perspective makes the most sense
Mod psyche asf and don't want to pursue it too heavily but just a note
Mod psyche asf and don't want to pursue it too heavily but just a note
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This is going to sound extrmely OMGUS and I hate it, but #206 from Mharman is a bad post. Townreading Banana I think is fine if you can write off some of the inconsistencies, sure. Even scum reading me is fine if you think I'm some OP mafia vig role and that I am big braining the fuck out of this game. However to have a 1 on 1 read for something that isn't even remotely a CC just urkes me in the all wrong ways and honestly, just subjectively incorrect
I don't know if I should town read this more because I feel as mafia the objective is to blend in and try not to draw so much attention and this completely draws attention
On the other hand. The lead lynch candidate is Banana from what I'm gathering to an extent. Mharman has enough town cred from a majority of the town to maybe push a 1 on 1. As scum I think that's the best way to secure a mislynch especially if they are a person down.
Ugh I am torn because I hate the fact that 2 posts throw me off so much and there's decent reasons to town read him but also some scummy shit that I also can't excuse too but now that he was going to vtl me it just makes me look omgus
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@Greyparrot
Yeah just saw. Cause if it was the front I will say Wylted's grammar was pretty dogshit and I could not understand what the fuck he was saying so I had to ask a bunch of questions for clarification
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@Greyparrot
I am a bit confused on Barney's read on GP. I took #85 as he states as joking and GP did soft claim someone swapping his role early in the DP.
However, I think there is some valid issues about how GP doesn't know what the Crab God role did. We have some unconventional roles but there was some justification. I'll ask GP, how did you not know what your role did? Was it because the grammar sucked and was written like a 3rd grader, or was it because it wasn't explained the actual function?
However, I think there is some valid issues about how GP doesn't know what the Crab God role did. We have some unconventional roles but there was some justification. I'll ask GP, how did you not know what your role did? Was it because the grammar sucked and was written like a 3rd grader, or was it because it wasn't explained the actual function?
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@Barney
that's a mechanic he didn't mention
This doesn't make sense? What mechanic would this be?
The only mechanic of my vig is that it takes me getting to 3 votes at anytime during the DP. There was no other conditions. Savant was just my top scum read
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