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@Lunatic
Because I had a feeling your scum buddy was gonna try to drive the train away from you and focus on someone else. Furthermore, I think this is a gambit that you are doing to prevent yourself from getting lynched, playing the "third party" role. I have a hard time believing that was your motivation. I think you did that to prey on a noob. With GP, you were much more subtle and outted yourself in general
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@Lunatic
A third party is still scum. I have a strong time believing that justification at all. It just seems like a cop out fmpov
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@Lunatic
I got a guilty on you 1st thing

Second, you seem to want to be kept alive, if you won already, you shouldn't care
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TOWN
Water
Supa
READ TOWN
Speed
NULL
everyone not listed
SLIGHT SCUM
Pie
DD
SCUM
Lunatic
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Bastard States Mafia DP2
Also that's inherently a scum role
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@Lunatic
There also isn't ant statistics for modern lynchings. 
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@Lunatic

"Mississippi had the highest lynchings from 1882-1968 with 581.  Georgia was second with 531, and Texas was third with 493.  79% of lynching happened in the South."



Nice try

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A Community Inquiry on Moderation (POLL)
1. Are you satisfied with current moderation?
YES (1)
NO

2. Do you believe ban lengths are too short, too long, or just right?
TOO SHORT
TOO LONG
JUST RIGHT (1)

3. Do you believe there should be major changes to the CoC in the future?
YES
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4. Do you believe the site over moderates?
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5. Do you believe with different policies, the site can generate more activity?
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6. Are most bans fair?
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7. Do you feel motivated to be part of the community?
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@oromagi
There is still justifications for the roles to states, so I'm not sure what you mean.

I also think the bastard part is mod intervention.
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Bastard States Mafia DP2
Now that we know Lunatic is scum, it's time to hunt the other scum.
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Bastard States Mafia DP2
No one should ever doubt McMuffins now. I said from the start that Lunatic was more scum
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Bastard States Mafia DP2
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@Lunatic
@PressF4Respect
@skittlez09
@BearMan
here
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@ILikePie5
@oromagi
@Discipulus_Didicit
@Speedrace
@WaterPhoenix
I got a guilty on Lunatic
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Bastard States Mafia DP2
I copped Lunatic, he's guilty 

VTL Lunatic
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A Community Inquiry on Moderation (POLL)
Hello everyone. There was some recent debates about moderation and how to go about moderation. I would like to get a general consensus on how the site feels in general with moderation, policies, bans, etc. These inquiries will help moderation build a better understanding of the community and develop into a prosperous community. Please answer the questions honestly and feel free to give explanations on your answers. These results will be directly submitted to moderators

1. Are you satisfied with current moderation?
YES
NO

2. Do you believe ban lengths are too short, too long, or just right?
TOO SHORT
TOO LONG
JUST RIGHT

3. Do you believe there should be major changes to the CoC in the future?
YES
NO

4. Do you believe the site over moderates?
YES
NO

5. Do you believe with different policies, the site can generate more activity?
YES
NO

6. Are most bans fair?
YES
NO

7. Do you feel motivated to be part of the community?
YES
NO
7B. If NO, please explain why?

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With that in mind, these inquiries will help us build a better community and help the moderation team a lot in the future.
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@warren42
Nvm u are right 
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@warren42
#284 he took his vote off
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@ILikePie5
We're only at 5/7. Ragnar took his vote off
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@Crocodile
If you flip town this game, you will play a key piece in helping the town out. So know your lynching isn't a waste
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@Lunatic
No, because 5/12 people still said they had a negative connotation. The part of 2 descriptions was wrong overall, but the negative connotation is still a possibility

I also do believe your behavior is somewhat scummy. I felt like when responding to the McMuffin Idea, you were inherently trying to use strong words to bait a reaction out of me and cause town to turn against me, and it looks like you're doing the same thing here 
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@Lunatic
Egging me on for a reaction isn't helping your case. I still think you are scum
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Bastard States Mafia D1
Ehh okay. Well we know some have negative only. Lunatic's is a posititve. Mine has both positive and negative but based of that the negative, so that part of the McMuffin Idea doesn't apply

I still think it's sus that he only has a positive 
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@ILikePie5
Ok, so it's all negative if it isn't positive to negative. Lunatic's is the only positive one
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@Speedrace
I'm gonna wait to see how this plays out with other people
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@Speedrace
Yea I'm assuming that's what Oro's is too, but his is depending on how you interpret it. 
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@oromagi
Also look at other PM's. Croc was beautiful but boring, therefore vanilla. 
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@oromagi
That's how mine is worded too, you are X, you have ____, however Y, therefore because Y, you are Z
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@oromagi
Well that means in Warren's view, it is a negative. Idk warren's views so beats me
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@Speedrace
I think it is a bus to draw more town cred to Lunatic. Croc has been victim to bussing before as scum I believe
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Biden picks Kamala as president apparent.
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@Username
I am not a "Trump Supporter." I don't blindly follow what Trump says. I have my own ideology of what I believe and whoever I think matches it the most or is the better candidate is the one I support more. My views are Moderate-Conservative. I believe the left is a hypocritical side who is willing to destroy our modern world for this false interpretation of giving money to everyone.

I am also not afraid to call out Trump's wrongdoings. His climate change policy is lacking, and I believe he takes a bit too much credit for hard working Americans. I also believe he has done good. Tax breaks for SBA's, funding for Autism, deregulating the economy. Obama's policy were too Marxist in regulation of the economy. Trump lifted those policies and the economy grew.

I also like left policies. I believe that we can reform police and try to make it better, we can make policies to slow down global warming, and mild gun restrictions.

I am somewhat of an Independent. I support a candidate for what I believe matches me the most
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@Speedrace
So that means 33% have this connotation, 4 known members. That makes it impossible that negative connotations are scum roles. 


I'm ready to hop off Croc. I have a very strong feeling Lunatic is scum. I also will raise my suspicions on DD if Lunatic turns scum, but I just think this is Disc misreading the town
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@ILikePie5
Lmao
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Biden picks Kamala as president apparent.
In all honesty I really liked Maya Rudolph’s impersonation of her so I’m glad I get to see the memes on SNL
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Biden picks Kamala as president apparent.
In all honestly Kamala is the biggest joke I’ve seen. He only picked her due to her race and gender overall. There were better candidates for Biden to pick if he was looking in that route. Kamala got owned by Tulsi Gabbard in the debates for all the idiotic things she has done as a prosecutor. She can’t even distinguish education from criminal activity. And she wants to lead a global pandemic! 

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@Greyparrot
@ILikePie5
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@Greyparrot
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@Crocodile
That doesn’t matter. All roles are randomized
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@Greyparrot
Phony Kamala is what they are calling her
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Mafia School: Program For New Players & People Interested (SIGN UPs)
1. christopher_best
2. armoredcat
3. Dr.Franklin
4. LittleCookie08

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Bastard States Mafia D1
I also had a Dunkin Donuts coffee
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@Discipulus_Didicit
McMuffin Idea
I love this name. Anyone who does not call my theory the "McMuffin Idea" is anti town. Disagree with the McMuffin Idea, but don't disrespect the name
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Hence why my vote is on him, but I'm saying that dismissing Lunatic is not a smart thing to do. There are scum theory and suggestions that can lead to him being scum. Some people are forgetting that

So then your theory relies on it being impossible for the mod to make a beloved princess role in the game in the first place, but the mod can do whatever they want because the mod is just one letter away from being god.
If a mafia claims a certain role, they usually are not that role they claim. Hence, the name, fake claim. I'm not saying it is impossible, but extremely low looking at the pattern I see
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Hence why I think it's a fake claim, because there would've been a negative connotation that makes sense, but it is only a positive. There is no way to form that argument, hence why I think he's lying looking at the pattern because, well, duh, he isn't a Beloved Princess
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No Big 10 Football
BRING BACK BIG 10
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I'm basing theory off what's given to me and that can change. Implying that Lunatic isn't the same way seems fishy
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I'm basing it on my PM, Miller, and Croc. 3/12 of the players I know have that format, so 25%. 

My other claim is that the pattern is the negative connotation is what the role is based off of. Miller for Water, Vanilla for Croc, and mine makes sense too. The fact that Lunatic's is off a positive is weird and fishy to me overall.

Only thing preventing me is the CC and the Beloved Princess, but IMO I think that's Lunatic's way of diverting lynches on him by claiming "extra NP means scum can win" (im not saying he would, but it's a hypthetical

And that whole talk shit versus not I believe doesn't apply looking at consistencies. What makes you believe any different?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4625-bastard-states-mafia-d1?page=7&post_number=174


Dude read the post

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Bastard States Mafia D1
Ehh fuck it. I think Luna is scum, but I'll do a 1 for 1 trade off. 

VTL Croc
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@Lunatic
His behavior as town is a very care free one. As scum, he seemed more focused and controlled. His lackadaisical effort is somewhat of a town sign IMO, only thing scummy is the claim since it's been CC'd.
 
 Even Speedrace's theory that this is a potential bus (though wrong) makes more sense from a mafia stand point then what you are suggesting
I'm just saying that your justification doesn't align with that I've seen so far

You are adding in your own interpretation of what Croc actually said to support your theory. Also Croc is saying his role pm is also mentioning beauty but only after pressured further lol.
No. He literally said in his justification, "potatoes potatoes. We are a boring state"

Why not ask other people if there role as negative connotation? You are leaping to huge conclusions over assumptions you are making about the game.
I'm making this justification now because if people see the pattern that's presented and look at the PM, they can come to the conclusion whether or not this theory is true. I won't force people to out negative connotations if they do not feel like. I'm analyzing from the pattern I see.

I'll still go and unvote,  just due to the fact that the confidence in this is only 50-60%, not enough to trigger a lynch looking at the drawbacks, but I am saying a theory that is true from the patterns I'm observing ATM
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Bastard States Mafia D1
The only thing that is putting Croc in scum is him being CC'd
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