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I don't think giving vanilla reads is very helpful at this point, since we have to lynch 1 of 14 players. Imo, we're not going to find a day one lynch from PoE. That leaves scum reads, and Owen's claim moved him from a slight scum lean to a town read.

So who's on the table for a lynch? I can think of several options, though I'd want to get a claim first before going for a lynch. Luna going after banana like this and then disappearing from the conversation is a bit scummy, but I've seen town Luna be determined before, and I don't really see the play if Luna is scum. Barney isn't making very substantive posts much, but I've seen him behave like this as town. Of those two, I'd want a claim from Luna first, since I just don't see this scum read on banana.

 In a game where Pie and Mharman are controlling the tempo, if it is a situation where it's town vs town, they have no incentive to try and make reads and engage when it looks like they will consume each other

Astute observation. I have been thinking about the consequences of me being wrong on Pie. It would certainly not be a good look for those who disappeared from the thread. Would like to give Austin a pass on it, and I think I will give Barney one for now as well, iirc he made note that his activity would be low early on.

It is worth mentioning that Barney did lowpost all of DP1 last time he was scum, and what was suspicious to me about that was how little he said about the game when he actually did check in. So I'll revoke that pass on Barney if what he can give is fuck all

I do want to reread a lot of these exchanges between Pie and Mharman when I can better focus, but since this comes off as very town vs. town behavior (honestly, don't think I've ever seen Mharman this combative with another player this early, though I'll have to do some research to check). 

The reason why I asked that question is I don’t trust your claim. Not yet.

From a game design standpoint, a role that requires one to get a few votes on themselves sounds like a role that gives the player an incentive to act a little suspicious, but not enough to get lynched. I feel like this type of role is a bit scummy; a type of role that encourages mafia to take some risk to gain a power. I get the sense there was an oversight on Wylted’s part- I don’t think he thought of how the player could just ask people to vote for him.

 but I suppose that, to lesser degree, I might let you cook. For now.

And yet, her claim of having a long PM where she didn’t read all of it (probably because she didn’t need to read the entire thing to understand her role and justification) is the claim that garnered the most suspicion from others. I dont see how someone can be suspicious about Banana, but have absolutely nothing to say about anything else.

Also is it actually three, or three or more?

I am assuming it is at any point based on the wording of the PM. but I asked to clarify

Alright.

Wylted is just as viable to be scum here the only thing hes got going for him is the motion detector result, but that assumes casey isn't lying (if he decided to instead frame wylted he would have made it a 1 v 1 between him and wylted rather than you and wylted, so theres incentive for him to clear wylted with it), as it technically doesn't clear wylted based on the likelihood of a ninja. The rest is WIFOM about how hard he would have gone on austin last day phase. You guys are both as likely to be scum in my eyes, but im leaning more towards wylted mainly because I just think thats such a bold play for you and GP to come out with your roles immediately like that, and I feel like you would be more careful and calculated as scum then to do that.