Vader

Please do not vote yet, we still have 5 hours.

I honestly can't really tell what this could be for Austin. For me it seems like it's a desperation attempt to try and get lynch off him at some point. I also have seen him do this a few times before as scum when he was first starting. Granted that was awhile ago and I think his game has evolved, but I think it was only 2 games I personally played with him and seems to contrast. However in the last game, he benefited a lot from laying behind and me and whiteflame did a lot of the bickering. This is a different story here and if he tried to do the same thing I think he would be likely scum read.

IDK man. If you really don't see a difference between my play last game and this game, then I'm not really sure what to say. If you think that I'm trying to get a mislynch by pushing two moderately townread players (Pie and Savant), then I'm a little bit annoyed that you think I would play this blatantly as scum.

Hard to say. I still think Barney is my top candidate solely because of the inconsistency with his role justification being from the characters personality and not power,

I'm not a fan of pushing Barney, but lynching without even asking him for his justification is crazy. Not even mentioning that Lunatic said that the justifications don't necessarily make sense...

but I could see the behavioral reasons as to voting Austin. I also think Austin claiming makes it easier for town to decipher. I also think his role aligns pretty damn well with his character for the most part. However, Austin could be trying to pull a fast one with the Bleeder. Here is what I think

His role has a flavor of Bleeder where it also includes DP. I think what is in the realm of possibilities is that Austin can claimed he had been NK'd in like DP2-3 and draw out a mislynch while sacrificing himself. I could see that as a play but could Austin pull it off? 

Can you clarify what you mean by this?

Not sure. I think his behavior aligns a bit with scum enough to where I wouldn't have problem lynching him. I'd rather not put the hammer until I analyze the full situation a bit more in depth

That wouldn't really be the worst of all possibilities, I suppose, but I'm not going to let myself get mislynched without a fight.

inconsistency with his role justification being from the characters personality and not power

Not to straw-man, but that logic is flawed when you consider JoeBob’s claim of Oliver…

A Viltrimite/insect hybrid who ages and learns super fast, with a truly perfect memory such that he fondly remembers Omni-Man from listening in the womb… Being an innocent child has nothing to do with his powers.

You can also scroll over the character list for the squishy humans who don’t have powers at all.

The only thing I don't like about Austin's behavior is that it seems to jump around a lot from his claims. It seems very drastic versus a natural shift, almost as if it's manufactured.

Can you show where I've jumped around? Pretty sure that my reads have been fairly consistent...

Austin "suspects" me because he thinks I want to frame best Best.Korea. Then he turns around and advocated lynching Best.Korea.

Austin's lynch choices make zero sense for day 1:

ILikePie5 - Claimed the main character with no counterclaims

BK - Claimed doctor and arguably second main character in the show, with no counterclaims

Savant - Said multiple times that my role can be confirmed.

Do you have any thoughts as to why you were not pressured for a claim?

I don’t think you should claim anything at this point, but behaviorally there’s an oddity there.

I stand by my earlier idea of letting the fully confirmed townie lead the charge. If he rolls the dice, there’s a 25% chance he catches scum. An educated guess will hopefully be better odds than that; but it’s a wagon at least initiated with the assurance of no bad motives behind it

A lot of behavioral reading has been done into Best.Korea, despite him being a known troll. How seriously does he take these games, and how much can we really gather from his behavior?

I said behavioral reads are useless (or close to useless) if scum do what they would do as town. I buy that catching people in a lie is the point of mafia, but let's be honest and admit that special roles change the whole dynamic. Concrete evidence will always be a better way of catching liars than vibes alone. In Town of Salem, most lynching is done based on actual evidence since people have special abilities and the game is text-based, making it hard to catch liars (humans are bad lie detectors anyway). Forum mafia is closer to TOS than it is to traditional mafia. I go off behavioral reads when there's nothing else, but it will almost always be less effective than actual evidence.

Vader who want your claim, who you townread.

I believe Vader, whiteflame, Barney, Austin, and I are the only ones not to have revealed information about ourselves (I'll check posts again, but that's what I remember from reading through). But I've already said that I can confirm my role, so it's in town's best interest to lynch Vader, whiteflame, Barney, or Austin today. Even if I'm wrong, and someone like Best.Korea is scum, the fact that BK has claimed something makes it easier to catch them in a lie later on, without revealing more information. Whereas I don't think we're likely to learn more about Vader, whiteflame, Barney, or Austin than we know already. Of course, if someone had claimed and been caught in a lie, we should lynch them, but anyone who claims a major role on D1 without a cc shouldn't be lynched on D1.

Alright, Atom Eve is another major character, so another example of a ballsy claim if it is fake. I’m honestly not sure what the associated role would be, so I don’t get how BK thought it was obvious. Will need to think on this one.

I think I disagree with this a little. Lynching is town’s greatest power. With a 7-2 split we can lynch 3 times on our terms. If we no lynch, then we can only lynch 2 times. POE is our greatest friend and we need to get the scum pool smaller on our terms.

I will partially back up Barney here, my justification is related to my power but it's about a specific incident where my power was used.

I'll be honest, I clicked on the completely wrong wiki article because I misread my PM, it's definitely way below 10,000 words.

Also can you explain more why BK needs to be pressured?

IDK you might be right, I'm probably tunneling too hard, but I still had a strong FOS on pie. Honestly I'm just trying a different town playstyle, in Indie Games I built up a lot of towncred that meant nothing in the face of a well-timed NK and remaining town being silly. I'm trying to be a lot more aggressive and provoke some genuine reactions.

Without character or role claiming, does your characters role relate to their "superpower" or ability rather than what happened in the show?

Good question!

My character doesn’t follow his super power for his role. The role fits the character, but it’s based on his actions rather than technical power.

Like let’s say I was Rex, the power wouldn’t just be mad bomber or vigilante to fit the power of making stuff explode as an attack, it’d instead be something like Lover for his habit of cheating on Atom-Eve with Dupli-Kate (whom I believe someone claimed, so to be clear, no connection).

I find it weird that the literal namesake of the series doesn't even get assigned an active role (Commuter is basically a combination of two passive roles, Bulletproof and Ascetic). It's also an easy claim to explain why you're not getting NKed, as well as explaining any failed investigations and whatnot. This was the exact reason why I fakeclaimed Ascetic in the last game.

Pie is generally anti-town, but shit and being scum are not the same thing. Hence I’m no OMGYSing him.

Speaking of which, I noticed a pattern. It looks like role justifications for the most part are based on the powers the hero has. With GP’s claim, my role and character, and Pies role and character, I think we can assume that the role justification are based on the abilities. Is this true for everyone?

I don’t get this logic sussing Pie’s character claim. I grant that there’s some non-zero chance that he figured out that Mark wasn’t in this game based on some tidbit received from Luna. If we’re going to mod psych this, then yes, there’s a chance. The problem is two-fold. One, mod psych only works well when a mod is making consistent decisions across games and I’m seeing a lot of evidence to the contrary. Two, it says in the OP that:

Mafia were not directly given fake claims! However I did give them a very strong hint to a role claim, and it is an open set up, so they will have a list of characters to choose from that may exist in this game.

So we have to assume that Pie as scum saw a single role claim hint and somehow determined that Mark Grayson wasn’t in the game. That would take some real balls and, much as I wouldn’t put it entirely past him, it seems like an absurd position to argue that he must be lying when we know scum are limited to that information.