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@Discipulus_Didicit
Yes, wouldn't a lot of people say so?
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@Goldtop
My last statement
"Moral nihilists assert that there is no inherent morality, and that accepted moral values are abstractly contrived."
You are THE BIGGEST FUCKING HYPOCRITE EVER. YOU SAY I HATE GAYS WHEN YOUR WHOLE PHILOSOPHY IS ABOUT HATING GAYS
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@Goldtop
Was not refering to you. Stop commenting on my posts.
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@Mopac
Is the troll refering to me?
If all honesty, just tune him out. He says we discriminate gays when his religion justifies rape and school shooters
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@Goldtop
You think raping and killing is good, making you a hypocrite
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@Goldtop
I live in Illinois, one of the most Democratic states, and no one has a problem with my religion and I.
You don't believe in anything, so have fun raping and killing people because it is justified in your religion :)
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@Goldtop
I'm done arguing with you again... believe what you want. I don't care how you think of me because you're some dude over the internet that won't have an impact on my life
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@Goldtop
That is it. I am dropping this right now and that is that. You hit my boiling point of arguing.
I'm not debating you anymore on this nor will I be ever responding to a forum you send unless it directly attacks me.
You clearly have a different view than me. I don't feel like arguing with you anymore about the views. We just don't see eye to eye
I'd appreciate it if you don't try to respond to me in any posts. I have better things to do than argue with angry athiests.
Don't respond to my forums, and I won't respond to yours. And don't mention my name in your mouth again.
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It is time we put beliefs and arguments aside and start off with a clean plate going into spring.
If we had any beef for something very petty, I wan't to move on from it and become close again. We start off clean.
If you had beef with anyone else, erase it and make up. Let's start spreading positivity
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It's not hate speechOh yes it is, discriminating against others because of their sexual orientation is indeed hate speech, dummy.
I don't discriminate or actively go out and hate gays
There are a great deal more articles on this if you choose to educate yourself, but it seems education is not something you're interested.Church believes it is a sinWhat about the sins you commite? Are you pardoned automatically because you're not gay, Mr. Hypocrite?
They can confess they have sinned to the lord and that they are gay and they are forgiven in the eyes of the church
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Everyone sins on a regular basis if you are not the lord himself.Then, everyone should be allowed in your Church, but that isn't the case, is it, Mr. Hypocrite.
We allow everyone to pray and worship god on a Sunday
Yea the church doesn't allow them. It is true. I can't refute the bibleYet, you and your hypocritical church allow others who sin, like yourself, for example. Most likely, many others in your church sin, but they are allowed in while others are not, Mr. Hypocrite.
We don't allow the sacraments to be given. Even then, a gay can walk in a church, receive holy communion, and not be asked by the priest
OMG I literally cited bible sourcesYou're just being willfully stupid here again. YOU do not behave as the Bible sources demand, hence putting up those sources only makes you look more the hypocrite, dummy.
Interpreting religion as the bible is what we are defining it as
I love my enemy and love the sinner too. Please stop calling me a liar and a hypocrite. I am neither of those things
Again, confession makes your sin forgivenAgain, you keep repeating the same stupidity over and over. You don't confess your masturbation sins, your rap battles and most likely a host of other sins you enjoy committing. So, get off your fucking high horse, Mr. Hypocrite. You are no better than anyone else.
Yes I do. I am not telling you what I confess because I am not allowed to according to my religion
I love them period. I would talk, have a good convo, even discuss things with them in a normal setting.Then, you and the other Church assholes would stand at the door of your Church prohibiting them from coming in, Mr. Hypocrite.
No we would not. We accept all people to come in and pray.
I would also allow them into the church too.Hahahaha! Look at the back peddling going on here. Hilarious. You see, you are guilty of hypocrisy and you're actually starting to realize that. Go for you.
I said they could come into my church. Never said they could take sacraments
They can watch a service, but can not partake in any sacriments until they confess. We still let them pray.Wow, your generosity is above reproach. Not. Funny how you, a rabid sinner who doesn't confess his sins is allowed to partake. Hypocrite.
You don't know what I confess.
I am literally at my boiling point right now
Religious gays do exist. They just do not take communion.That's because they are discriminated by hypocrites like you and your church.
They can if they wanted too. The priest isn't going to ask "hey u gay"
It is still harassment threatening my pastor in this.If showing your pastor your posts here is threatening, then you know you're a hypocrite and you know you'll get into deep trouble. Lol.
It is because you are trying to bring me down and try to use my faith against me
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I practice Orthodox Christianity(that is my religion).
I believe in Conservatism
-I believe we should increase in school therapy for mentally challenged peoples vs removing the right to bare arms
-I believe in tax cuts for the middle class and increase in taxes for the rich
-I believe we should remove welfare and food stamps so middle class doesn't pay for it
-I believe university and school should be free to all who are interest. Free education is key
-I believe in keeping strong relations with countries
-I believe in Capitalism as a economy, not an religion
-Eye for an Eye, Tooth for a Tooth
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@Greyparrot
The wall HE IS proposing is stupid. We can improve the current wall, but not build a new great wall
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I follow the rules on this 80% of the time. You break the rules too.Sorry, but you just pulled that number out of your ass, like you do so many other things.We all break the rules, so what?
Ok cool I do then. But it is not because of bsh's sexual orientation
You are harassing me and keep posting on my thing and that breaks the COCYou keep promoting hate speech which also breaks the COC.So you have a point?
It's not hate speech
if I have ever said anything DIRECTLY(not relating to the church stuff) hating and misusing gays.It is the church stuff, that which you agree, accept and promote, hence you and your church minions hate gays.
Church believes it is a sin but we say this in the bible, where we interpret info
Jude 1:22-23
"Many Christians use the cliché “Love the sinner; hate the sin.” This saying is not found in the Bible in so many words; however, Jude 1:22–23 contains a similar idea: “Be merciful to those who doubt"
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@Greyparrot
The wall cuts through homes and villages and will cost a lot of money repair.
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Send me a link to where I said something about bsh being gay and not wanting to follow his rules because of itYou don't follow the rules here, no one does. Bsh is gay, hence you are forced to discriminate against based on what your Church condones.
I follow the rules on this 80% of the time. You break the rules too. I am going to apply your logic to what you are saying
You are harassing me and keep posting on my thing and that breaks the COC. You are only doing this because you hate gays
NEVER ONCE did he sayIt's not what Bsh says, it's what you have said about gays here, that you and your church openly discriminate against them. Bsh may not have ever responded to your hateful remarks and may never do so, but that doesn't change your hateful remarks.
Hold on 1 second. I am literally going to PM bsh and ask if I have ever said anything DIRECTLY(not relating to the church stuff) hating and misusing gays.
He identifies as gay, so he would know what is offensive or not
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*deep breath in* *deep breath out* It's time to lose some braincells
calling me out for committing a sin in your eyesYou are sinning according to the Bible and I'm sure there are a lot more things you do on a regular basis that are also sins in the Bible, but that doesn't matter to you at all, what matters is that you and your church discriminate against gays because they sin according to the Bible. This makes you a massive hypocrite, which you still refuse to understand.
I understand I sin thanks Jesus my lord and savior. Everyone sins on a regular basis if you are not the lord himself.
You don't even practice my religion, so you don't even knowHere you are again refusing to understand something very simple, one does not have to practice a religion to know it.
This is the truest thing you said.
]In fact, there are a great deal of non-Christians who understand the religion far better than you.
That is probably true. But there is no bias in there statements
You state false info about ME discriminating against gaysNow, you're just lying. Anyone can read your words and see that you do discriminate against gays.
Ok then....
I said that the CHURCH does not allow gays.Yes, that's called discrimination which you agree, accept and promote.
Yea the church doesn't allow them. It is true. I can't refute the bible
However, we are told to love everyoneAnd that is a very obvious lie to anyone with a brain in their head.
OMG I literally cited bible sources saying to love everyone including the sinner. I love everyone, even the sinner
Then I agree, being gay in the churches eyes is a sin and I believe that myself.Of course, you do, but you ignore the fact that you sin in the eyes of the Church, but you hide that from them because you know they will have something to say about it. This makes you a hypocrite.
Again, confession makes your sin forgiven in the eyes of the church and you work not to the same cycle.
I respect them and love themAnother obvious lie. If you respected and loved them, you wouldn't discriminate.
I love them period. I would talk, have a good convo, even discuss things with them in a normal setting.
I would also allow them into the church too. The church never says they CAN NOT come in and take communion. The priest isn't gonna come and ask, "r u gay" and if they say yes, they kick them out with their boot of justice. They can watch a service, but can not partake in any sacriments until they confess. We still let them pray.
Religious gays do exist. They just do not take communion. They do pray
There is a clear difference between the church and society.That is extremely stupid, your church is part of society, moron.
Read above
Then it is the threat called Save James. Chemically castrating your son without his consent is abuseThis has been explained to you already yet you continue to be willfully stupid and call it something it isn't. Idiot.
Restate it then versus calling me stupid then
You said that making your child go to church is more abuse than chemically castratedIt's not chemical castration idiot. And we can see from your posts here just how much damage the Church has caused your brain to stop working.
So another pointless insult about my brain. Gee thanks
All you respond is that I am a liar and a hypocrite.You are a liar and a hypocrite based on your words here but are far too stupid to understand that.
No I am not. I have kept steady the entire time with my statement. Your too much of a pin head to understand
I continuously try dropping this argument to stop the escalation of a flame war or anything else.No, you keep responding with the very same lies and hypocrisy you've been repeating ad nauseum, all the while refusing to understand anything anyone says, not just me. Clearly, the damage the church has done to your mind is far reaching, perhaps irreversible. That would be a shame.
I am not gonna let you abuse me and keep responding to me calling me a liar, am I. When I said, can we not discuss this, all you needed to say is fine versus trying to harass me
You threaten me with emailing my pastor...you threaten me and keep doing it. You leave me no choiceMore lies, I asked for the email addresses so I could send them links to this site. Obviously, if you consider that a threat, then you do understand that what you say here would be a serious problem with your pastor and you would be in deep trouble. A shameful hypocrite and liar, that's what you are.
It is still harassment threatening my pastor in this.
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@mustardness
I do not support Trump's wall at all. I believe it is inherently stupid and costs WAAYY to much.
However border officials say they need the wall. So idk
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@Goldtop
Send me a link to where I said something about bsh being gay and not wanting to follow his rules because of it
Go message him right now and ask if I have ever not listened to him because of his sexual identity.
He has PMed me about private matters during our debate, and NEVER ONCE did he say, "Hey, that stuff your saying is bad, knock it off." Never. And he is a fairly active mod
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@Goldtop
I have no guilt at all. I feel you are harassing me by commenting on every forum I post and calling me out for committing a sin in your eyes.
A) You don't even practice my religion, so you don't even know
B) You state false info about ME discriminating against gays
Let's start this off...
I said that the CHURCH does not allow gays. That is true and I never said that was wrong. However, we are told to love everyone, including your worse enemy. You said "my worst enemy is gays then?" I said no, it could refer to anyone I dislike.
Then I agree, being gay in the churches eyes is a sin and I believe that myself. But I don't go out and call people vulgar terms and hate speech. I respect them and love them just as I would love a Christian brother in a society. For example, if I really hated gays like some, I would go out of my way to oppose bsh and what he says and just vulgarly say things and not give two shits. But I don't because I respect him, despite his gender identity.
There is a clear difference between the church and society.
Then it is the threat called Save James. Chemically castrating your son without his consent is abuse because you are forcing your OWN WILL on an innocent child. Everyone in the LGBTQ+ would think that. A chemical castration is used for rapist and sex offenders. You are using an act of punishment because you wan't your son to be a girl?
Forgetting the relevancy of the case, which could be false. You said that making your child go to church is more abuse than chemically castrated. I say not true.
All you respond is that I am a liar and a hypocrite.
I continuously try dropping this argument to stop the escalation of a flame war or anything else. Then you just respond back and yell at me for being weak. I try not to force a report for people like you. But the constant pointing out of sin, disrespect, and exteme bias is enough to allow me to call for action.
You threaten me with emailing my pastor...you threaten me and keep doing it. You leave me no choice
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@Goldtop
I have requested a restraining order. All you are doing is harassing me based off my religion and that breaks the COC.
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Can you stop harassing me?
Does every post you make have to be an attack on me. I wan't you to not mention me or talk in any of my forums anymore.
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@Goldtop
Can you fucking stop replying to everything I say. If you don't like it then don't read it. God your so fucking annoying
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