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The only thing that is sus about the claim is that he claimed Vanilla, but also know he's been in only 3 games, doesn't really understand the rules of the game, and may not fully comprehend why it is bad to such a things. Plus it coincides with his meta as town so I can read it town, but it's a slight town read

How did you forget your email?

I'm gonna write up drlebronski's claim as a Noob Town move. He hasn't played in enough games to understand the metas and such and in the last game, he tried to get me to claim my Tracker which is heavily anti meta as town. This alligns with what he did last game and so I have a lean town on drlebronski because of it

Let's not push for more claims this DP. More information for mafia leads to there more likely scum targeting power role.

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He was unbanned under the previous administration and once new moderation came in, his slate was wiped clean 

Essentially, I just don't think it makes for this game to have a bomb . We have a 3xcop and a tracter + doc. To have a bomb that kills lethal actions w/o a Vig seems very overpowered

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Nah this Disc train is pretty fucking stupid

1. Cop is in this game. It would make sense for there to be a Miller in this game. Works better than a Bomb claim

2. Pie was originally claiming only scum can kill him until I asked about vig

3. Pie was originally hesitant and refused to mass character claim because he hadn't thought of a claim yet

Sorry, I'm not hopping on Disc

/in

Why are we on Disc

Wylted's claim

Wtf is this omgus

Wtf

Well a Mega Bomb does it for all NK's on you, Bomb is just one. That doesn't necessarily means much in the long run

Running the assumption isn't smart. So you are EVERY LETHAL NK. Ok.

I actually think there's more likely to be a Vig in this game. That role seems tends to be a Negative Utility to it when it's only visits and is usually an SoP. The way you are claiming it seems to be that it's only for Lethal Actions, which if there is no Vig, that means Scum can't target you. Doesn't that seems relatively overpowered. An essentially 1x Vig of a Scum Member in exchange for yourself. It seems heavily OP IMO and more a town utility. To balance it out, I would think there is a Vigilante in this game to make it more balance (though I can't say for sure). This isn't the typical role of a Bomb, so I do have my skepticism about it. This is either a town favored balance or you are lying and the latter seems the most reasonable ATM

Also I don't know fi Poly has modded, so I don't wanna use balance and all into this, but a Bomb that is only for lethal actions seems OP as hell for town, especially with 3x Cop, Tracker, Doctor. Balance just seems off and his claim is pretty iffy at best

Pie keeps contradicting himself and after reviewing is role and such, I think Pie is scum. 

I meant NK for the second. I apologize as such. I asked Poly about if a Strongman would bypass the Bomb to clarify. Still Pie is being inconsistent with his claims 

It's a skepticism. I said so all lethal actions were to kill you and you said yes. That means in theory, if a vig where to exist, it would die. You then stated that 

But when ask if it is all lethal actions, you said yes. In theory, all lethal actions means a Vig where to shoot you, they'd die as well.  You are contradicting yourself in these statements. 

You said "It's only scum NKs."

How do you not know there's not a vig, you are taking back what you said earlier

But you said it goes for ALL LETHAL actions. If a vig where to exist in this game, you're saying it wouldn't kill you? That seems too OP

There's also relative studies to confirm my point as well about maturing and adolescences and puberty. Hell I don't think I hit puberty at 13.

13 is too young. Some guys and girl haven't even hit puberty or have had the talk yet with their parents. They simply don't know what consent is at the time and can not properly function at all. I think the status quo is just fine. Most people at 16 are learning consent and are going through puberty (late stages or early stages), and are fully capable of knowingly consenting. I'd even argue raising it to 17

Here are my reads. No one is confirmed town

Lean Town

Disc

Slight Town

Wylted

Evilgenius

Null

Earth

FOS

Whiteflame

Slight Scum

oromagi

Lean Scum

Pie

Pie is strongest scum read at the moment

Alright I'm at lunch and I had some time to think about Pie's claim and now I'm not really liking it

1. It justifies the fact why he wouldn't die in the NP

2. It is OP as hell for town to have a role preventing NP actions 

3. There's no way to prove he isn't lying if we see someone visit him now that my tracker doesn't work

Balance wise we had

3x Cop

Doctor

Tracker

Enabler

Miller

Bomb

______

______

______

vs.

Mafia

Mafia either have a RB or a Strongman, where Strongarm can't counter a Bomb (don't quote me though)

This would be almost impossible to balance properly. I think Pie is scummy asf, but I want to wait for oromagi to claim

Pie's claim is interesting because it's not like his role is everything and is only lethal actions. I've also seen him do this trick with scum guessing when I was scum saying that scum will regret killing him, it makes me lean more town to him, but he is still slightly scum

My tracker and bomb would make sense for mafia to have a ninja now

Is bomb just for lethal actions

Huh

I have an 8:45 class. Not my fault

What are your thoughts about lowering the legal age to drink in the USA to 18?

Heard the game was good but the show was pretty ass since Lerche did it, and I'm not too fond of Lerche's animation style

I was at college but you did a fine job. The claim was bad but your play wasn't terrible by any means. The activity really killed you

I lost my role cuz Bron got lynched

Also in regards #59 to the counterargument of "scum could waive a kill/action," it's a suboptimal move from scum to do such a thing. You need to gather info about roles and such to kill the best targets

I still have an FoS of whiteflame because of his char claim, but behaviorally he leans town. He's not big into revealing info unless town is doing so and that is a key town tell so I am willing to excuse the ehhh char claim for his behavior.

I'd like full claims from Oromagi and Pie this day phase at some point. They are my top scum reads right now. I'm still very sus of Earth, as 1. he isn't dead and 2. his doc didn't work being unconfirmable because of the lack of tracker in this game.

Mafia can make up shit as they go.

I'm sus of everyone who hopped on the lebron train late

Nah this is some pretty shit townplay. Sure I'm town confirmed to an extent and Disc is now essentially town confirmed, but that doesn't narrow down the POE. We still have

1. oromagi

2. Whiteflame

3. Pie

4. Evilgenius

5. Earth

6. Wylted

My only town reads atm are evilgenius and wylted so that's only

1. oromagi

2. whiteflame

3. Pie

4. Earth

That's a 2/4 chance of hitting scum fmpov, 50% odds, but looks what happens if you are lynched

We'd have

1. oromagi

2. Wylted

3. Whiteflame

4. Evilgenius

5. Earth

6. LeBron

Assuming you are town, we'd have results on Lebron that would essentially lock him as town. This also assuming my reads stay the same
1. oromagi

2. Whiteflame

3. Earth

There's 2/3 chance we hit scum in that pile. You would obviously throw me into that pile as well if you weren't me, but if I tracked Lebron to nothing he'd be confirmed. And if Earth was RB'd, two action would've happened.

Essentially, game would've been easier and that scenario assumes you are TOWN, if you are SCUM, town are in a better position because we now know theme 

Mafia has a RB or Strongman then. Could be the reasoning as to why Lunatic. Still this could be an intricate lie and I have no way of knowing. For now I will hold off to prevent anything

Town more useless than Joe Biden in Afghanistan

Btw I’m not moving my read on Earth unless there’s results that convince me there’s a better lynch option

Actual Unvote VTL Earth

The fact he didn’t protect a claimed cop is scummy asf

A mafia passive role? Lol that’s funny. The only thing that could be considered is Ninja but that’s such a low chance of happening

What do you mean no? It is abysmal. I would’ve been able to track Bron to see if he visited anyone and confirming not only me but him. We now have no investigative roles from my knowledge, and why didn’t Nurse Joy aka Earth not protect Luna? Nah this is some pretty ass townplay. 

Oro, Pie, and Earth top scum atm

Words can’t describe how poorly town handled that situation. I literally said to wait to lynch Bron to see if he’s telling the truth. Hint: I was going to track him, but no one listens

I was a Tracker

Abysmal town play

If Bron turns innocent, I am claiming right away DP2 since my role is useless. 

My vote is likely staying on Pie until i get back from class. Don't expect me to change my vote until 7:30PM EST (I use EST now since my timezone has changed since college)

I'm also getting a weird vibe from Oromagi. His continuous pressure on a joke that I made and now basing his read off it with his tunnel vision makes me wanna lean scum on him. The only lean towns I have right now are Wylted and as of now Evilgenius. His reactions have just seen so newbie (him voting Luna for lying).