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@drafterman
That means very little to me because of the fact it's been over a year since that game and many things can change. You could also being saying this to throw me off. I don't take those statements into consideration unless it's consistent
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@Danielle
I don't usually get temperamental unless something is done repeatedly. It isn't a scum trait because if someone is making the same point without understanding your point, I'm gonna be pissed off. It's just that I don't think anyone besides Luna and others have seen me put a full temper in mafia game. I don't do it much because I don't feel the need to, but yes I am being aggressive at Pie because he's failing to understand why I'm voting drafterman and why he's contradicting his own logic
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@Barney
Not close, only 2 votes, but I'd rather claim now to clear up my status versus claiming when at L-1 as Vanilla only to be lynched
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@Barney
Don't feel in the mood to be put at L-1 for a claim, claim Vanilla, then get lynched over it like in live mafia
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It's been 1 year since his passing. Good lord where does time go
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@Danielle
Then again Supa turning on drafter and going after him felt a bit phony too so I dunno but behaviorally I don't trust him and want his claim. I feel like getting a claim from Supa is absolutely the best course of action and it seems like a lot of others are being rubbed the wrong way as well. I don't buy his reason for inactivity either.
I've been active this entire DP directly talking to Pie and drafter and have been one of the more active players. Are you talking about the breaks I took to work on a project when there was no activity? Or when I said today will not be the best day for me. If it's the latter, most people on the site will probs understand why today is not a good day (as you can tell from my profile picture).
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@Danielle
@ILikePie5
Since there is 2 people on me, and because of the fact my role is useless, I'll just claim
Whitney Horgan. I'm one of the kinder individual and end up doing the right thing which leads to my death. I'm Vanilla.
Only claiming now because I'm not a Power Role
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Tomorrow, 12/8/20 is not gonna be an active day. It's the 1yr anniversary of Juice WRLD's death, and a lot of people know how I feel about this
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@ILikePie5
"Why are we VTL'ing Elm with only 30 posts in DP1 and barely anything this game."
I said I thought there was two but whiteflame never did. Drafter changed avatar but his old avatar and the female and cartoon have the same skintone in the picture.
Even so, VTL'ing Elm without reason wasn't smart until he explained it, which is still false.
You can literally point all you want to that point, never did I explicitly say that VTNL'ing is good. I will now continue to work on my story
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@drafterman
You called him town though and there's no denying you did it
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@ILikePie5
Yes I do but you aren't reading. No point
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@ILikePie5
Keep believing me saying why the fuck are we vtl'ing means that I said to VTNL when it never specifically said that. Lol not gonna argue this
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@ILikePie5
There's no point in arguing anymore because you don't understand my point
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Not responding to any new pings after this post to go work on my story
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@drafterman
Yes. That's how raids work. You get breaks in between fightsThat's how it is... normally. We all have real life, then play the game when we have breaks. If a raid is no different then there is no reason to call it out unless it is going to prevent you from playing. It clearly isn't preventing him from playing when it is convenient.Furthermore, why are you making his case for him?
Your reading him off the fact he is checking in the game for a break. This is a bullshit reason to scum read someone
No, your premise is off your philosophyNo it isn't.
"Because I've been vocal about blindly accepting miller claims in the past, to the point of complaining that this acceptance has taken a role that is suppose to be negative utility and has turned it into a free confirmed townie."
You put him in town pile by saying "Elminster went quiet because Pie, Supa, and I are all town and it's in scums interest to let town bicker among themselves."
Why did you put Pie in town pile
This makes no sense. You said he wants to bait a reaction from you, and when you give a contrary opinion from what you state, I shouldn't take it as scum. All you are doing is tunneling Elm off a theory argument that does nothing for the DP to force a lynchMy vote on Elm has nothing to do with mafia theory.
Your reason for Elm has been
"Anyway Elminster won't rage this time, not because he promise, but because he's actually scum and he'll get reamed by his team mates if he throws again with the lead they've developed.
Eli is scum if only for this half assed attempt to rile me up for no reason. This fake indignation screams scum.
He didn't try to rile me up last game when he was town. He just caved and imploded. His behavior here is different."
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@ILikePie5
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And yes it isn't. It was a reactionary to seeing Elm being voted quickly in the DP without any leads in the NP
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He literally did thatWhat? Where? He literally said he believes I’m legitimately the Miller and hence Town lol.He said that he buys you as town, but said he doesn't believe Miller should be written off as town, but has you as town with only 3 posts and a claimWell ya no shit Sherlock
Yes, but that contrast what he literally said where he says that you shouldn't put Millers as instant scum. He literally said me you and him were town bickering, thus putting you in town, going against his belief
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@Speedrace
Meow
Thank you. I'm going to respond to a couple of more pings that come in and then going to work on my story and listen to music
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@ILikePie5
I never said I don't want to lynch ever. This is a lie
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I can argue the same with you and Drafter. Why do you have to test drafter out of all people over something he said months ago.If he goes back on what he said, he’s scum. If he doesn’t then he’s null. It was supposed to be a gotcha to catch scum lol, not so hard to understand.
He literally did that
Even if that isn't the case, why are you not calling out drafter for basically going against his own logic and reasoning? I also am not buddying Elm cuz I'm clearly votingWhat logic and reasoning lol. You’re making zero sense right now. You’re assuming that I’m using Miller as a fake claim to fool Drafter into thinking I’m town, so why tf is your vote on him and not me?
He said that he buys you as town, but said he doesn't believe Miller should be written off as town, but has you as town with only 3 posts and a claim
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@Speedrace
Never said it besides that one statement, and that didn't even closely imply that I said I wanted to VTNL
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@whiteflame
I just read it back. I misread. I thought you did because you and drafter have similar avatar color.
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@Speedrace
Please point me to a post where I explicitly said "Lynching now is bad." I gave a statement about the pros and cons to both is the most I've said
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@ILikePie5
I can argue the same with you and Drafter. Why do you have to test drafter out of all people over something he said months ago. Even if that isn't the case, why are you not calling out drafter for basically going against his own logic and reasoning? I also am not buddying Elm cuz I'm clearly voting
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@Speedrace
Incorrect. Elm had votes from Drafter and whiteflame on the first page and I just read it and skimmed and asked, why the fuck are we lynching.
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@ILikePie5
Elm was randomly getting votes and I said, why the fuck are we lynching. What's scummy about that?
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@drafterman
Meow meow1. His ignorance to things such as Mikal going to a raidHe's on a raid and can't be here... except to defend himself by saying he's on a raid and can't be here.
Yes. That's how raids work. You get breaks in between fights
2. His contrasting view where he says "Miller shouldn't be an instant town" when he did the same thing with Pie3. Blind voting Mikal for no reason and without giving valid justificationI've given justification, you just don't read.
No, your premise is off your philosophy
4. His interaction with Pie felt scummy asfHe is either throwing or is scum2 & 4 contradict each other. #2 is what PIE was trying to tease out of me. Your decision to FOS me for my alleged contradictory positions on millers is exactly what Pie was probing to see if was warranted. That makes Pie TOWN. I saw what he was getting at IMMEDIATELY, but I'm not going to make a big fuss about millers right now because we have scum to fry.
This makes no sense. You said he wants to bait a reaction from you, and when you give a contrary opinion from what you state, I shouldn't take it as scum. All you are doing is tunneling Elm off a theory argument that does nothing for the DP to force a lynch
You wouldn't have a case for #2 without me having laid it out for you in the first place.
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@ILikePie5
Lol where did I say I supported this. I said why are we lynching and then said lets lynch. Plus I think drafter is scum
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@Speedrace
Meow meow
1. His ignorance to things such as Mikal going to a raid
2. His contrasting view where he says "Miller shouldn't be an instant town" when he did the same thing with Pie
3. Blind voting Mikal for no reason and without giving valid justification
4. His interaction with Pie felt scummy asf
He is either throwing or is scum
He is either throwing or is scum
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@ILikePie5
You could've claimed in that window. Type your character and role and just in that period. Most people do a miller
Also the voting is tricky because there is a risk factor that goes into play with each. I still want assess each option
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In regards to voting and that situation, there a 5v3 route and a 4v3 route (if there are 3 mafia) There's two options we can take.
1) VTL'ing
A VTL would limit the pool of players alive to a certain numbers, and with the mafia NK, it limits it more. This would mean that catching scum would be easier to do from a smaller player pool
2) VTNL'ing.
This could potentially give us a better chance at surviving longer if played right. If there is a doctor or bp, if we waive lynch, lynch NP, have doc heal or bp, we have more night actions that can suggest an action. This is all assuming we have these roles in the first place which is a gambit in of itself
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@drafterman
What do you have that suggests he's scum besides, he's scum
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@ILikePie5
Yes. It's significant that you were active during this period of time and could have claimed miller when you had the chance.I did claim Miller when I was active, which was literally a time period of 15 minutes.
You did a VTL on GP, a link, and a ping on Danielle DP1. No claim in that window
I said that I am not deciding on a lynch yet with only #110 posts total in the game. Right now I don't think you are a bad optionSo if you could you’d lynch me today?
Well the DP has only been lasting for an hour, so if no option presents itself, then yes I would be willing to lynch you
Nevada counting the votes for the 2020 election🤡🤡
I had to do it to em
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@drafterman
Please explain to me why he takes presedence besides the voting. What else do you have to suggest he's scum. I'm willing to listen if you have other reasons
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@whiteflame
I read and responded. Drafter responded with he believed it, counteracting his belief he had with Miller being "confirmed townies." Why isn't he applying the same logic to Pie?
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@ILikePie5
He's evaluating your response? That's not what it looks like. It looks like he's asking you for your thoughts on his role which you responded to "I believe it," as he stated in the post that he said he wants to know. How does you believe him as scum or town indicate his behavior when you said it functions as a confirmed townie? If you are buying his claim, aren't you falling victim to the same trap, when he posted in the DP2 versus in DP1 where he posted 3 things before claimingWhoa 3 things?
Yes. It's significant that you were active during this period of time and could have claimed miller when you had the chance.
Once again would you like to policy lynch me?
I said that I am not deciding on a lynch yet with only #110 posts total in the game. Right now I don't think you are a bad option
I said I like to take my time voting, similar to NevadaNevada?
Nevada counting the votes for the 2020 election
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@drafterman
Yes, but yet again, you said you believe it. What makes it different from what you claimed before that Miller is essentially acting as confirmed townie. You said you believe the claim. Wouldn't that counteract your logic?
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@ILikePie5
Did I suggest that I don't buy the miller claim in that interaction, no. At the moment, I am neutral on the claim. I am not eager to lynch anyone based on the little info I collected
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@drafterman
Because I've been vocal about blindly accepting miller claims in the past, to the point of complaining that this acceptance has taken a role that is suppose to be negative utility and has turned it into a free confirmed townie.He is evaluating my response here against that baseline to see if my behavior here indicates I'm scum.
He's evaluating your response? That's not what it looks like. It looks like he's asking you for your thoughts on his role which you responded to "I believe it," as he stated in the post that he said he wants to know. How does you believe him as scum or town indicate his behavior when you said it functions as a confirmed townie? If you are buying his claim, aren't you falling victim to the same trap, when he posted in the DP2 versus in DP1 where he posted 3 things before claiming
Now, can we set that aside and lynch Elminster?
I said I like to take my time voting, similar to Nevada
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@ILikePie5
Not at the moment I do not, but I have an FoS on both you and drafter because of this interaction
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@ILikePie5
But why specifically drafter? Why do you specifically want him to believe it?
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@drafterman
I take my time to vote unless someone is scum confirmed
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@ILikePie5
Supa seems overly aggressive this game for some reason. It isn’t like him as a townie.
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I am not being aggressive. In fact I was more aggressive with lynching Water last game as town.
I am not being aggressive. In fact I was more aggressive with lynching Water last game as town.
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@ILikePie5
I'm not saying you can't. But why do you need drafter's validation for your own claim if it's your actual claim
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