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@ILikePie5
I am rias Gremory. I have 2 abilities
Transformation - (1x)When a player visits you they will be informed by PM that you are innocent.
Castling -( 1x) Targets a given player to be assigned as your Rook and select another player. Any actions of that other player will target the Rook instead.
Oppai Beam - (1x) Target someone and that person will gain 1x of a random active skill.
I used casting on whiteflame and warren. So whoever targeted whiteflame actually had used their abilities on Warren. It would explain the guilty result and why the NK landed on Warren.
I can confirm I am town as anybody that visits me tonight will get a message that I am town. I am using the transformation skill tonight. I think we should hold off on whiteflame. I think he was targeted for the NK which means he is most likely inmocent
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I am impatient as fuck. Everybody get on here so I can explain what happened.
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Ok that sounds damning. Still, something is off. I will explain in a bit.
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@Earth
Don't do anything yet. Whiteflame has got to be the final scum, if he is scum. I suspect something funky is going on here. My role may give some insight. Let's just see how things play out.
Is there anything special about your role, other than doctor?
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I need to claim before Anybody starts voting. I want to hear from the rest of town first though
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Is anybody questioning why there is an nK on scum? This is likely some bastard modding going on. I am hesitant to do anything until we figure this out
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@badger
Apparently the false positive rate is through the roof rendering it fairly useless
I'll have to revisit that. If that's the case, the people bragging about how well it works, should be shot
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@Tejretics
I think averting an existential catastrophe is probably more important in expected value. I’m unclear how much slowing down AGI would slow down anti-aging research (though I do think anti-aging research is important
Because of something known as the technological singularity. Even AGI would contribute to anti aging research, but once AGI leads to a super AI, the changes we see could be 100 year jumps in technological advancement occur within seconds.
That is where the danger lies with AI also. AGI or as I call it human level AI, isn't going to have God like powers of mind, but once AI gets to the point where it improves itself, those improvements can happen very rapidly, and you will see intelligence that rivals God. That is where the danger comes in. Human level AI will bring some interesting challenges, but even the negative effects of that are unlikely to cause a human extinction.
The dangers with super AI can. It is interesting that a lot of the reasons for the "Fermi paradox" can be directly attributed to possible reactions to a singularity. The singularity like the development of nuclear weapons acts as a filter for advanced civilizations. Many advanced planetary civilizations are likely to die off once they reach a nuclear age.
If we are to enter the age of super intelligence, than that can be another filter. I don't see AGI being a filter. So this to give you an ideal that super intelligence works as such a rapid level of advancement that it essentially also acts like a curtain that blinds us to what the future will look like.
So if you plan to debate the dangers if AGI, I urge you to look past that at super AI. Even this low level of AI that we currently have, but is close to AGI, has contributed a lot to extending lifespan already. For example AI has made it possible to detect cancer significantly earlier, particularly breast cancer and are better at detecting it than any human.
Imagine how much a God like intelligence can improve tech
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@oromagi
If you ask any army's HR dept, or the captain of any ship, or the Dean of any all boys school, etc you'll find that the more often and longer men are isolated together, the more likely they are to seek intimate contact with other men.
This is what I was talking about in my thread the gaming of society. I only focused on artificial causes of increased homosexuality, but not natural causes.
For example the mouse experiments showed that rats would turn gay in places with lots of abundance and overcrowding. You would have the alpha males who guarded resources, and they would get all the female rats. This would turn the rest of the rats into betas who had to kiss the alpha rat's asses to gain access to rat vagina.
This also turned into a lot of rats turning gay, because the alpha rats would use gay rats as kind of guards access points of the resource distributor. The gay rats were also the o ly rats allowed near the female rats other than alpha males and formed an important function of this society.
I guess to some it up. The intentional artificial instruments to promote gayness, is Russia and corporations, the unintentional gaying of society comes from big cities and access to unlimited resources.
Iw we loom at natural gays that are just just part of evolutionary psychology. You know men too strong to be women but too weak to be men, they would often go with females when they went to dangerous fruit and berry gathering expeditions, while the meant hunted bears.
The current gays are probably 10% natural and 90% just a result of modern life and propaganda. Maybe we also just have a lot of Italians in America that were descended from the gay boy lover Roman's, and they passed on their genes to modern Americans
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@badger
I can also tell you Wylted refused a dick pic from me last night.
It's wierd because you somehow made me feel like an asshole for refusing it.
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I have, but have zero interesting articles. I have been googling why we should give a fuck.
The best arguments I have read, explain it as a buffer zone between Europe and Russia, and explains how they will get control of the large body of water, and tried to get me to emphasize by asking the reader to imagine North Korea, being on America's border.
It doesn't really do a good job explaining why it benefits Europe to have the buffer zone, or explaining why the United States should care.
Another article claims we owe them something for turning over an enormous nuclear arsenal.. however I feel like, if they were instead not brain dead,t they could have kept the nukes and perhaps Russia would have respected them more.
It doesn't explain why we should care about them turning over nuclear weapons they were unlikely to use against us.
The articles mostly emphasize the strategic advantage of the Ukraine being an independent nation. It does little to explain what the strategic advantage it has, beyond a buffer zone and doesn't explain even why the buffer zone is important.
Neither does anybody even explain why Russia cannot be allies and brought into an alliance with Europe and the United States. Maybe there are just too many people alive from the cold war.
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@Tejretics
My issue with that, is the institutio. Or nation that is first to create a super AI will rule the world, assuming it is controllable. If we take safety measures I to account than China could beat us to the Super AI, as they have no such problems throwing ethics out of the window to win .
I just prefer a world ruled by the west than China, and if we care too much about creating the apocypse, we'll lose. I'll happily face 26% chance of extinction, if it means I can live in a free society.
Also, a super AI will likely be able to cure death as we know it. Given that millions of people die each day, if we slow down this advancement, even by as much as 1 day. That is a million lives unnecessarily lost.
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@Tejretics
I pretty much agree with you that Ai is more likely to lead to human extinction, but I still say we should focus more on global warming than trying to prevent an AI apocalypse.
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@RationalMadman
How would people starve and die without it? Are you suggesting that people need meat in the first place?
I talked to a woman who grew up in WW2 Germany. She is dead now, but I always prodded the shit out of her for details, so I would own a piece of history that would otherwise go forgotten.
She was a sweet lady. Her brother a nazi and her husband an American soldier. Her brother and husband loved each other. The lady's name was Olga.
She described some stuff that I'm sure was hard for her to talk about and didn't talk about some things and unfortunately those things are now lost in the sands of time.
She described a large lack of meat. She didn't mention vegetables or seemed to give a shit. I don't know if fruit or vegetables were plentiful. However She couldn't get meat. She talked about a neighbor killing the horse and sharing it with her family so they wouldn't starve.
I believe though it was never stated, she caught rats and ate them as food. She came upon a crashed dead pilot in the woods and took his jacket to stay warm. She scavenged the dead body for food. I don't believe she found any.
You don't hear about these people going through extreme measures for apples. They go that length for meat.
A vegan diet is not sustainable. If you were to attempt to sustain it, I'd recommend eating a ton of oysters and insects, which are both vegan foods.
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@Tejretics
Maybe, I think more likely it was kbub.
As long as it’s phased out, I doubt that this is true. Factory farming is generally a pretty inefficient use of resources to produce food. I’m happy to talk about my understanding of this -- which could be wrong -- in more detail.
Are you going to argue that eliminating factory farming you could replace that with plant crops and get 4x more food or something along those lines?
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@RationalMadman
People would literally starve and die without factory farming
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- Factory farming should be illegal. (Pro)
This is your dumbest opinion. I might be interested in at least talking about it with you
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@ILikePie5
You scum read Supa anyway, if GP is town this should be a one one trade in your mind, and there is no reason to delay the game.
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@ILikePie5
strongest reads are
town
sui
warren
disk
null
supa
whiteflame
airmax lunatic
scum
GP
pie
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@Vader
You said GP is scummy, why haven't you voted him
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@Yassine
- What if she goes with another woman?
Then I will be joining her .
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@RationalMadman
It's an interesting concept. If you can both stay on topic and be interesting g to read, I would love to vote on it. We'll see
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@Yassine
- I think Whylied is lying here, as usual. Why are you so worried about homosexuality when adultery is fine in your country? That's hypocritical.
I don't worry about adultery because the bitch knows, I'll beat her ass.
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@Greyparrot
This is why I suspect Supa, he half ass says we should lynch me but refuses to do so himself.
That is suspicious. Can you link me to the post
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@Earth
Now that I think about it, it's kinda odd how GP goes "I don't want to hipfire a town because they voted me." You don't need to hipfire. Town can just select a target and you can kill them. If you are scum, town wins, and town has a chance to kill a potential scum. So why are you apprehensive?
If GP is town, he knows he is town 100% and trust himself. We also have the issue that whoever we choose, will just stubbornly stay off the lynch. I rather the target be in surprise to all of us
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I think Yasmine might be different from other Islamic people. For example he thinks Muslims should encourage and support homosexuality . He doesn't mind the degeneracy
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I'm just not going to communicate if you are going to twist what I say. Either you are scum or just being stupid for not letting go of your pet theory
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@ILikePie5
Either way that’s besides the point. Why did Wylted lie. If he is town, why is he lying about the timing of his PM. That’s my question that he has yet to answer and neither has anyone else.
That is ridiculous you are still on this. You failed to adequately answer disc when he stated this
Put yourself in scum shoes for a sec. You are deciding whether to try to mislynch GP. You know GP is town in this scenario, so you know that it is normal for town to get their PM at the time that GP said he got it, which means you know before you even do it that if you try to mislynch him on those grounds that nobody in the town will go for it.
Why would I go after GP for something that would draw so much attention to me. Think about this, if GP is scum, than I am just hardcore bussing him out of the gate. That's ridiculous. If he is town, and I am scum, I would not draw attention to myself as having a PM that came at a separate time than him. That would pretty much out me as scum right away. It makes no sense.
As for why Mikal sent some people PMs at around noon one day and around 2pm the prior day I don't know. The fact that I knew when the other pMs were sent Is pretty much proof I am town.
I have a few theories though, since mikal has admitted in the past that his riles are not completely randomized. If he feels like one team has an advantage after randomization he will shuffle the results a bit. I wouldn't be surprised if he just held out because depending on whoever confirmed, he might rearrange the roles a bit.
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@zedvictor4
One that is provably untrue.
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@Greyparrot
Just take the shot if you actually have one. I hat doing this, but if we have more town directed kills than mafia directed kills, typically town wins.
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@ILikePie5
I don’t mind lynching GP because I’m against Millers to begin with. We however still have to decide who he will kill with his ability. Help me pressure Wylted who clearly is lying about the timing of his PM.
If GP is claiming Miller that means there is probably a cop in the game. Just investigate me LOL. I think you're the only one on this nonsense though.
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@ILikePie5
Say real time, not *your time*, or I block you.
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What is CST in real time? It's like noon, so exactly 24 hours prior to mine.
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@ILikePie5
If he even responded with an OKAY on that text, it is basically a confirmation.
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@ILikePie5
I said I got my role at 12pm.
If there's are at like 8am or something than you might have a point. Mikal doesn't want me posting the time stamp, but it won't hurt for everyone to state the approximate time they got a message. Let's see if there is an odd man out.
If there's are at like 8am or something than you might have a point. Mikal doesn't want me posting the time stamp, but it won't hurt for everyone to state the approximate time they got a message. Let's see if there is an odd man out.
Mine was at about noon. When was your role PM?
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I'm going to try and not clog up the dp with this pie nonsense. Sorry guys.
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@Lunatic
Can you take care of my light work. Just take a break from being an airmax goon for one day, and be my goon.
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@ILikePie5
It’s just for Wylted. Thank You. You can read Post 1 by Mikal and see that Wylted is clearly lying about when he received his PM.
Airmax confirmed my story, stop gaslighting.
no. he sent me a text message saying my role was in discord...
That's basically a confirmation text before airmax knew to go on discord and check his role.
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Advice for next time. If you are scum next game as well, just stfu. Especially with things like pm structure that can easily get you caught.
I almost suspect you just get caught DP1 on purpose because you hate playing as scum.
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@ILikePie5
Due to like half the people taking a day to confirm roles, I was not able to fully send everything out until this morning which was a good thing because I got to add 1 more person to the game (it was made for 11 to start) so this works perfect
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@ILikePie5
Lol, he literally stated that one was left to confirm than after said he sent out multiple messages in the morning. So for atleast 2 or 3 of us, we got our roles in the morning, after we confirmed. It seems suspicious that he would have some people confirm before getting the role and some afterwords.
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@Greyparrot
Unless mikal is playing games and unpredictably sending PMs than pie is pretty much confirmed scum. Just shoot him.
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@ILikePie5
I’m not scum, and he didn’t didn’t ask for a confirmation before sending my role. I see literally no reason why he would do that.
If another town member confirms they got their role first, I'll let you off the hook.
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We can't lose. We definitely kill one scum on DP1. Even if I am wrong about one being scum, there is no way I am wrong about both.
By the way, disc is town
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@airmax1227
I misunderstood you. What do you think of the above post. GP is the lynch and he targets pie.
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